₦airaland Forum

jlnAgain:
First show me 30000 Nigerian soldiers with full kit in a war zone.

AugustineAgain:
Nope, show us 30,000 SANDF troops with full kit in war zone.....your old people's army of HIV sick soldiers .

Below is Nigerian army with world class kits :
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Patchesagain:
We dont have to.

Everyone gets issued the same kit at basic.

jln115:
The SANDF payed for more than half of the R& D for the mokopa, thus it basically purchased, a sh!t load of mokopa's before they even started with production.

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13247:denels-mokopa-pgm-ready-for-market&catid=90:science-a-technology&Itemid=204

saengine:
Show us where Iris-T shot down another air to air missile in a test. Germany's Diehl is lying about Iris-T capability?


https://i.imgur.com/r60ZG.jpg

Patchesagain:
http://www.janes.com/article/50334/denel-gets-a-darter-production-contract

http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21028

MikeCZAR:
It is between France and the UK.

Patchesagain:
Show me where a PLC-9 engaged an air-to-air target at 35km

Patchesagain:
This is what the manufacturer says

Patchesagain:
It clearly says the A-darter can shoot down missiles.

jln115:
You are going full re.tard again Augustine, the PL-9C is the Ground based missile and the PL-9 is the air to air variant.

Patchesagain:
Example: A-darter

saengine:
As i suspected. He will now claim that this capability is false. Last kicks of a dying horse


Email Diehl Defence in Germany. Tell them that Iris-T IS NOT a self defence missile. Tell them that they are frauds, advertising a capability that DOES NOT exist with 4000 missiles already produced. You, Augustine are calling them frauds.

Then email Denel in Centurion. Tell them A-Darter IS NOT a self defence missile. Tell them that they are frauds, advertising a capability that DOES NOT exist with 300 missiles to be produced. You, Augustine are calling them frauds.

saengine:
http://www.deagel.com/Air-to-Air-Missiles/PL-9_a002626001.aspx

"The PL-9C is an improved variant introduced in the 1990s featuring extended range from 5 kilometers to 22 kilometers and increased launch weight (115 kg vs. 123 kg), warhead (10 kg vs. 12 kg) and G maneuvering factor (35g vs. 40g). The PL-9D is a surface-to-air missile variant also introduced in the 1990s. The PL-9D missile system has been ordered by the People's Liberation Army (PLA) ground forces."

Patchesagain:
You talking about civilian air traffic controll?

So what?

Patchesagain:
ok - then F-7 is 1960's tech

#EquationBalanced

Patchesagain:
Also, A-darter can intercept your missiles and you cannot evade the A-darter

andrewza:
They built In SA. Meaning we can build engines.

Patchesagain:
Ha!!

We shoot down the PLC-9 missiles with the A-darter.

Love it

Patchesagain:
You have the best minds?

Nigerian Nobel Prizes: 1
South African: 11

Patchesagain:
[size=16pt]According to the SANDF they have been upgraded in the 2000's.[/size]

Patchesagain:
Augustus. This is truly getting pathetic.

I admire your efforts to defend your obsolete military, but it is really boring.

Our 14 thales radars have longer range than your RASIT system. Their intergration into LinkZA has allready been posted many times. And they are practically invisible.

Your Rolands and Shilka are not ground observation radars.

Your Rolands and Shilka are easy to detect - both visually and by the signals they send out.

Your Rolands and Shilka do not share information with command posts and each other - they can only see what is happening in their tiny bubble.

Your military has no situational awareness, no ground based ISTAR, no data-sharing.

We have dedicated platforms such as Starstreak and CRAM which do the killing - both of which are intergrated into LinkZA

In terms of mobile air-search radar Nigeria is 1000 years behind the SANDF. In terms of ground based ISTAR 30 years behind the SANDF - and with only 2 units to our 14!!

Patchesagain:
Your rant reminds me of my 8 year old nephew when he doesnt get his way.

Your air search radars are ancient nodes and do not have synergy. They are obsolete and ancient.


Nigeria only has individual assets you do not have an intergrated system that brings together ground and air radar search platforms, targetting systems, air defence systems, artillery systems, aircraft and army formations.

Your military is an obsolete 1980's army.

jln115:
Firstly Denel never gave free weapons to the SANDF

jln115:
Secondly the Government never bailed Denel out!

saengine:
Nigeria has no 35km air to air missile. Only in your head it is real. But let's pretend.....

A Darter is a 5th generation missile with self defence capability. PL-9 has NO/ZERO self defence capability. Gripen and Hawk will defend themselves and proceed to turn your F-7 jets into scrap metal. Only one dying will be F-7 pilots. Iris-T and A Darter....self defence capability. By the way...where are your JF-17's? You said you would have them by the time Denel starts producing A Darter for SAAF.


http://www.janes.com/article/50334/denel-gets-a-darter-production-contract

"Denel Dynamics was awarded a five-year production contract on 19 March by Armscor for the A-Darter air-to-air missile.

Developed under Project Kamas, the missile will initially arm the South African Air Force's (SAAF's) Saab Gripen C/D fighters, complementing the small batch of IRIS-T missiles acquired as interim armament from Diehl BGT Defence.

The A-Darter will also be integrated with the SAAF's Hawk Mk 120 jets, giving the advanced trainers a self-defence capability and allowing their use in some airspace patrol roles."


Game over. Find a hole to crawl into.

jln115:
"PL-9C BVR 35 km"
Your quoting the ground based missile.
The PC-9 air to air missile has a range of 22km

"A-Darter 20 km"
Still not confirmed but lets take it as 20km.

For someone who claims he is a defence expert, you ought to know that the range of a missile doesnt mean f@ck if it is easily countered.
The A-Darter is a fifth generation missile and one of the best , if not thee best in its class.

So you might think, what are the advantages of a fifth gen missile?

The latest generation of short-range missiles again defined by advances in seeker technologies, this time electro-optical imaging infrared (IIR) seekers that allow the missiles to "see" images rather than single "points" of infrared radiation (heat). The sensors combined with more powerful digital signal processing provide the following benefits:

greater infrared counter countermeasures (IRCCM) ability, by being able to distinguish aircraft from infrared countermeasures (IRCM) such as flares.
greater sensitivity means greater range and ability to identify smaller low flying targets such as UAVs.
more detailed target image allows targeting of more vulnerable parts of aircraft instead of just homing in on the brightest infrared source (exhaust).

Patchesagain:
Hey

Chucklefuck

Algeria is not at the Rand show.

Its not an arms expo. Its a civilian fair.

jln115:
"Looking for more customers like Ageria"

At a f@cking civilian show?

NEVER GO FULL RE.TARD!!!

EVarn:
Africa's superpower rising.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LBn2S3mgjo

jln115:
Denel gets A-Darter production contract

http://www.janes.com/article/50334/denel-gets-a-darter-production-contract

andrewza:
Why would you think Germany though? Any case the engines are built local we even sell Ford USA engines built by Ford SA.

andrewza:
Does that matter. Denel is state owned. All so the only defence company to show there stuff was paramount. That means those mokape belong to the SANDF.

jln115:
WHY?
Because the unofficial SAAF page(run by a Corporate consultant in his spare time) says they are not in service?

So tell me why would they have mock ups at the rand show? what are the benefit of having mock ups at the rand show?
I mean its not for marketing purposes!So way els?