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Henry120:
Em tell you say em dey work for vice news?

Bwahaha, oga mi !

The pressure on video releases was initiated and championed by Beegeagle bloggers, they almost choked FG and DHQ on this PR issue.

If government had appointed Beegeagle himself as war time adviser since 2013, things would have been fantastic in MoD arms procurement and war PR information machinery
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MikeCZAR:
No citation needed for basic things.

Similar to how we all know your navy can't take on long trips.

The two warships with longest trip ranges in Africa are Nigerian navy's NNS Thunder and NNS Okpabana.

South Africa's blue water navy cannot compare to Nigeria's blue water range at sea....and we shoot straight
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Centrifude:
This is the longest running Thread I've ever seen in my entire life.. This is just crazy.

When you put Nigerians and South Africans inside one boxing ring, that's what the stadium will become.....crazy !
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MikeCZAR:
The same army which can't even store and transport 155m shells, you wanna convince us can store missiles?

Missiles are not simple rockets they require maintenance.

All aircraft launched projectiles require maintenance, rockets will fail if not well maintained, a missile is just a guided rocket. Simple.

MikeCZAR:
Nigeria doesn't have communications systems or capability to guide a surface to surface missile beyond line of sight.
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Difference between your Surface to surface missile and our own is only 1 km, Ingwe is not better than Swingfire, smoke kills Ingwe laser guidance system and makes it useless .

In real combat, 4 km range is even too far, you cannot I.D. targets easily with human eye. Ingwe 5 km is a waste.

Swingfire 4 km range is more than enough.
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jln115:
The Ratel has a much much greater range than your Land cruisers.
Its also much much more versatile in difficult terrain than your Land cruisers.
Much much much much much better protected against mines and other weapon systems.

Congrats to you @jln115....you got first comment on page 2,000 for this thread !
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Fynline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b2VN5R0-KU#t=18

Oga @fynline, are we getting full length of this great video form VICE NEWS soon ?
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jln115:
64035 posts!!! the previous longest ive ever read about was 14000 od posts, this has to be the longest thread ever!

This thread lost over 700 pages when there was a Nairaland website crash last year.

Those lost pages contained comments where @patches was editing Wikipedia and falsifying world military history to his favour
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jln115:
Congrats Augustine!!! your the first one to post on the 2001st page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks bros. Also the last on page 2,000....Nigerian's shoot straight on target
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agaugust:
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This is the last comment on the historic landmark page 2,000 for this topic : Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa ?

I see Nigeria has the last word and last laugh on this page 2,000. So read this and take it as final answer to the big question :



[size=20pt]World Analysts Declare :

Nigeria Will Be Africa's World Super Power !

International Institute For Strategic Studies, IISS Confirmed !

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"If Nigeria plays its cards right, it could become Africa’s only global superpower. It already has the continent’s biggest economy, a huge military budget and a fair record of regional engagement. By 2040 it will also be the fourth largest country in the world after India, China and the United States.

New research by the Institute for Security Studies (ISS) shows that out of Africa’s “Big Five” powerful countries – Nigeria, South Africa, Egypt, Algeria and Ethiopia – Nigeria is “the African country with by far the greatest capabilities” to play a global role.

The choice of the Big Five is based on the demographic, economic and military size of these countries, as well as their historical role as regional leaders, says the ISS.

South Africa is the only African member of Brics (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) and the G20, but it is not expected to grow in power and influence internationally and in Africa. Dr Jakkie Cilliers, executive director of the ISS and one of the co-authors of the report, says South Africans sometimes have the misguided impression that the country is a big military power and plays a major role in peacekeeping in Africa.

Spending on defence has, however, been drastically reduced, as shown in the recent defence review. It contributes fewer peacekeepers to United Nations missions than Ethiopia, Egypt and Nigeria.

“In fact, Algeria is spending the most on its military, Ethiopia is the major peacekeeper on the continent and Egypt has the biggest diplomatic power,” says Cilliers.

South Africa’s economy is not projected to grow nearly as much as the rest of Africa.

Population growths are much higher elsewhere on the continent, particularly in Nigeria, where it is projected to grow from 170-million to 320-million by 2040.

“South Africans don’t appreciate the huge size of Nigeria’s economy,” says Cilliers. Nigeria’s gross domestic product (GDP) is projected to grow from $525-billion in 2014 to $4.2-trillion by 2040.

Added to South Africa’s woes are “legitimacy problems on the continent”.

Sense that South Africa speaks more than listens
“South Africa can be heavy-handed when it comes to diplomacy and there is a sense that South Africa speaks more than it listens in Africa,” says Cilliers.

The ISS concludes that of the Big Five, South Africa and Ethiopia are “punching above their weight”, while Nigeria and Algeria are “punching below” theirs.

Egypt is punching above its weight internationally – it has a very strong voice in the Middle East – but low in Africa.

The inclusion of Ethiopia in the Big Five is controversial because it is, according to the ISS, “an authoritarian and repressive state” and in 2014 had the 11th lowest GDP per capita in Africa. However, it is growing fast and has become “a poster child for development in Africa”. It hosts the headquarters of the African Union and is the largest African contributor to UN peace missions.

Algeria is also not living up to its potential given that it has by far the biggest military in Africa.

Nigeria, hampered largely by domestic problems of governance and insecurity, is also under-performing. Nigeria’s military spending has, for example, increased dramatically, with an additional budget of $1-billion approved last year, but this has all been earmarked for the fight against Boko Haram.

Even if this past weekend’s elections in Nigeria, dubbed the most important in its history, go off smoothly, it still doesn’t mean it has made the transition to a sophisticated and mature democracy, says Cilliers.

“Nigeria is the only power with the potential to be globally significant but it does not have a coherent foreign policy and its massive security and governance issues are detracting from this potential,” he says.

South Africa, on the other hand, has made this transition and has many attributes that make it a worthy representative of Africa on the world stage, says Cilliers.

But, if the status quo prevails, South Africa will lose its place in pole position.

Angola and Morocco are important players on the continent with huge economies, but Angola is a “purely resource-driven economy” with huge inequalities and lack of democracy, while Morocco is not a member of the AU."

SOURCE : http://mg.co.za/article/2015-04-02-nigeria-will-be-africas-first-global-superpower

https://www.ladybrillenigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Nigeria.jpg

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We own the last comment on page 2,000.....and the first comment on page 2,001....good omen !
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This is the last comment on the historic landmark page 2,000 for this topic : Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa ?

I see Nigeria has the last word and last laugh on this page 2,000. So read this and take it as final answer to the big question :



[size=20pt]World Analysts Declare :

Nigeria Will Be Africa's World Super Power !

International Institute For Strategic Studies, IISS Confirmed !

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"If Nigeria plays its cards right, it could become Africa’s only global superpower. It already has the continent’s biggest economy, a huge military budget and a fair record of regional engagement. By 2040 it will also be the fourth largest country in the world after India, China and the United States.

New research by the Institute for Security Studies (ISS) shows that out of Africa’s “Big Five” powerful countries – Nigeria, South Africa, Egypt, Algeria and Ethiopia – Nigeria is “the African country with by far the greatest capabilities” to play a global role.

The choice of the Big Five is based on the demographic, economic and military size of these countries, as well as their historical role as regional leaders, says the ISS.

South Africa is the only African member of Brics (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) and the G20, but it is not expected to grow in power and influence internationally and in Africa. Dr Jakkie Cilliers, executive director of the ISS and one of the co-authors of the report, says South Africans sometimes have the misguided impression that the country is a big military power and plays a major role in peacekeeping in Africa.

Spending on defence has, however, been drastically reduced, as shown in the recent defence review. It contributes fewer peacekeepers to United Nations missions than Ethiopia, Egypt and Nigeria.

“In fact, Algeria is spending the most on its military, Ethiopia is the major peacekeeper on the continent and Egypt has the biggest diplomatic power,” says Cilliers.

South Africa’s economy is not projected to grow nearly as much as the rest of Africa.

Population growths are much higher elsewhere on the continent, particularly in Nigeria, where it is projected to grow from 170-million to 320-million by 2040.

“South Africans don’t appreciate the huge size of Nigeria’s economy,” says Cilliers. Nigeria’s gross domestic product (GDP) is projected to grow from $525-billion in 2014 to $4.2-trillion by 2040.

Added to South Africa’s woes are “legitimacy problems on the continent”.

Sense that South Africa speaks more than listens
“South Africa can be heavy-handed when it comes to diplomacy and there is a sense that South Africa speaks more than it listens in Africa,” says Cilliers.

The ISS concludes that of the Big Five, South Africa and Ethiopia are “punching above their weight”, while Nigeria and Algeria are “punching below” theirs.

Egypt is punching above its weight internationally – it has a very strong voice in the Middle East – but low in Africa.

The inclusion of Ethiopia in the Big Five is controversial because it is, according to the ISS, “an authoritarian and repressive state” and in 2014 had the 11th lowest GDP per capita in Africa. However, it is growing fast and has become “a poster child for development in Africa”. It hosts the headquarters of the African Union and is the largest African contributor to UN peace missions.

Algeria is also not living up to its potential given that it has by far the biggest military in Africa.

Nigeria, hampered largely by domestic problems of governance and insecurity, is also under-performing. Nigeria’s military spending has, for example, increased dramatically, with an additional budget of $1-billion approved last year, but this has all been earmarked for the fight against Boko Haram.

Even if this past weekend’s elections in Nigeria, dubbed the most important in its history, go off smoothly, it still doesn’t mean it has made the transition to a sophisticated and mature democracy, says Cilliers.

“Nigeria is the only power with the potential to be globally significant but it does not have a coherent foreign policy and its massive security and governance issues are detracting from this potential,” he says.

South Africa, on the other hand, has made this transition and has many attributes that make it a worthy representative of Africa on the world stage, says Cilliers.

But, if the status quo prevails, South Africa will lose its place in pole position.

Angola and Morocco are important players on the continent with huge economies, but Angola is a “purely resource-driven economy” with huge inequalities and lack of democracy, while Morocco is not a member of the AU."

SOURCE : http://mg.co.za/article/2015-04-02-nigeria-will-be-africas-first-global-superpower

https://www.ladybrillenigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Nigeria.jpg

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MikeCZAR:
Now you realise one of the reasons your military can't deploy fighter jets in a contested air space.

You need a fully functioning airport with radars to deploy your fighters.

Citation needed
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Page 2,000 for this topic.....

Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa ?

1. Egypt

2. Nigeria.

This page is dedicated to my hero :

Field Marshall Goodluck Jonathan.....

The Lion Of Africa....Destroyer of Boko Haram !

God bless you President Jonathan our Commander-In-Chief !

Amen !

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Henry120:
Even in this Thread, the South-Africans are confused and show their incompetence. See these two......... yet they want us to believe the Germans tried to kill Anthony day.

I guess they believe South Africans are smarter than Germans, i guess they even think South Africa manufactured the Valour frigates !
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saengine:
Which land based vehicle can fire AR-1 missile? You and your fake engineering...just making sh*t up. Show us which vehicle fires AR-1?

Manufacturer says so :

" However, the developer of the AR-1, the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASTC) has claimed that the AR-1 missile can also be carried by platforms other than a UCAV."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HJ-10

Go kiss your canvas shoes in the mud
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andrewza:
2 Germans vs 1 SAN. Odds are German.

German brain Vs South African brain. Odds are South African....domingos always miss target 3 times
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MikeCZAR:
Before going anywhere!

Show us Nigeria mobile air traffic and control capabilities.

Ask minister for civil aviation, or open a civilian thread for who has the best airport in Africa
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MikeCZAR:
which are expired oh righty then.

Prove our Swingfire expired. Egypt still uses their own.

Nigerian ordnance is well preserved, we removed long range rockets from our old MiG-21 storage and used them to knock out Boko Haram.

Rockets we bought for NAF MiG-21 jets almost 40 years ago with 150 Atoll air to air missiles, same used today effectively.

Well maintained missiles last 45 years in many cases.

All Nigerian missiles are well preserved to last 45 years

Roland SAM
Swingfire ATGM
Atoll AAM
Otomat AShM
Aspide BRVSAM
PL-9 BVRAAM
AR-1 ASM-ATGM

All the above missiles still operational in Nigerian military.


"The threat to fixed- and rotary-wing operations by Boko Haram is not insignificant, Zannah told AIN. The NAF’s Hinds and Alpha Jets had both been hit by gunfire of up to 30mm caliber, forcing them to fly higher, and requiring the NAF to fit longer-range rockets taken from its MiG-21s onto the Hind helicopters . The NAF has a fleet of 24 to 30 Mil Mi-24V/35P helicopters, and has lost two of them during operations, although not to enemy fire. The NAF also operates Mi-17, and is acquiring some new Mil-17-1 versions. “The Mil series is still the helicopter of choice for us,” Zannah noted."

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2015-02-02/nigerian-airpower-hindered-boko-haram-fight
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patches689:
Pic related is what happens when you lose 94 tanks trying to kill 3 South African tanks

Tales by moonlight

Fact is Cuba r.aped 10 SANDF tanks in one day
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patches689:
Cute

Pity SANDF is allready one step ahead

Pity, you have only one unit and too heavy to transport by Helicopter.

Nigeria has many many many.....they do the same job, but we have more numbers and super mobility to fly anywhere, even across rivers.

Special forces can easily use them by helicopter deployment.

SANDF is an immobile army
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patches689:
The thing about mine feilds is that when you are stuck in one and are being shelled you dont really have the chance to get out and spend all day fixing tracks

Not that Nigerians would know since they have never fought a conventional war with modern equipment

Nigeria clears land mines, and we have T-55 mine clearing tanks plus infantry mine detectors. We cleared over 1,500 Boko Haram mines.

Your current SANDF has not even seen a land mine in modern day battle, because Seleka has none I guess
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patches689:
NAF has 30

Which can only be used one drones

They make nice targets for Starstreak, CRAM, Gripen and Hawk

ZT3 missile can be used on the Rooivalk

AR-1 missile can be used by land based Nigerian infantry, range is 10 km.

30 units is enough to make SANDF cry.

SANDF has no CRAM ammunition yet, SIPRI did NOT say so. You have nothing like that.

F-7 BVR AAM has killed Gripen from 35 km away, Hawk jets don't even dare to fly, they are captured on ground by Nigerian army.

Rooivalk is a nice breakfast meal for Roland SAM with 8 km range, Alpha jets are too much for Rooivalk.

SANDF is dëad
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bidexiii:
Just read on beegeagles twitter page that the NA is going to receive 200 T-72 tanks with enhanced protection; source from the federal government according to beegeagle !

Medicine after death. Person wey buy the 200 tanks go dey for swamp/creek. Na person wey no even know how uncle joe labour to buy 200 units go use the tanks do parade for October 1 at Eagle square. Wetin concern me sef? My joy is that soja get new weapon, let's drink champagne.

patches689:
Video related - what happens when a modern ATGM meets a fully armed T-72

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04Q-ieBnPEo

Photo related - what happens when Olifant tank meets Cuban teenage boys, not even an ATGM, just Cuban boys army

https://blogs.warinangola.com/Portals/5/Blog/Files/1/2/DSC01341.JPG
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patches689:
ZT3's fired from Ratels and Rooivalk and JDAM's dropped from Gripen and Milan 3's used by SF and regular army tank hunter teams as well as artillery that can use LinkZA to hit moving targets say you are dead.

Gripens get killed by F-7 jet BVR missiles 35 km away. You lose air war.

No SAAF aircraft dares to fly after that.

SANDF on ground is a sitting duck....Alpha jets destroy all G-5 and G-5 artillery.

The rest of SANDF is target practice for Bofors and Palmaria

GAME OVER.....this is 100 times worse than fighting Cuba !
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patches689:
"If defeat for South Africa meant the loss of 31 men, three tanks, five armoured vehicles and three aircraft, then we'd lost. If victory for Fapla and the Cubans meant the loss of 4,600 men, 94 tanks, 100 armoured vehicles, 9 aircraft and other Soviet equiptment valued at more than a billion Rands, then they'd won."
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=18633.5;wap2


For every one Olifant we lost the Cubans and Angolans lost 30 of their own tanks.

Propaganda.

Truth is Cuba wrecked SADF tanks, 10 demolished in one day alone, other tanks abandoned in Olympic race

http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Tanques3-e.html

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patches689:
We rap.ed their armor

Pics related.

3:94

For every one Olifant we lost the Cubans and Angolans lost 30 of their own tanks.

But why are we talking to you about this - what do Nigerians know about tank warfare?

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Cuban Teenage Army R.aped South African Armoured Brigades In Broad Day Light

"On February 14, 1988 the SADF and the UNITA begin the second heavy attack to the Cuito Cuanavale defenses, with forces sized in three SADF and six UNITA battalions, supported by more of 100 armored vehicles of various types, among them 40 Olifants Tanks. By this superiority of forces, they achieve to break the defense of the 59° Angolan Brigade. To cover this place were urgently thrown the unique 8 T-55 Cubans in movement in Cuito, by the command of the lieutenant colonel Héctor Aguilar. They stop the South African, destroying 10 Olifants tanks in one day. The remainder of the Olifants retires behind march."

http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Tanques3-e.html

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https://blogs.warinangola.com/Portals/5/Blog/Files/1/2/DSC01332.JPG
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patches689:
And so?

....SANDF is dead

MikeCZAR:
Surveillance isn't guidance.

Nigeria Lacks communications systems and cannot guide ground missiles out of line of sight.

NA has wire guided ATGM....Swingfire missiles.

SANDF or SAAF has NO SINGLE air to surface guided missile, NAF has plenty
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MikeCZAR:
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All your F-7 will attacked out of their radar angular coverage, as your radar range is around 40km.

Gripen missile range is only 25 km, so how do you attack F-7 jet from 40 km away ?

You drank Easter holiday beer directly from the brewery ?
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MikeCZAR:
They left it under fire in a mine field.

.....SANDF troops ran away and abandoned tank....Cuban teenagers take over your Olifant tank
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