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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:23pm On Mar 22, 2015
andrewza:
Angola would be brought to heel with a submarine
Angolan army and air force will invade your country will capture Jacob Zuma alive and South Africa will surrender in 7 days
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:22pm On Mar 22, 2015
Patchesagain:
Its a trick done at low altitude at low airspeed

LOW ALITUTDE

LOW AIRSPEED

Plus, Gripen can do the High Yo-Yo which counters the Cobra

Citation Needed

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:12pm On Mar 22, 2015
andrewza:
Angola is our ally. We more likely to fly with them than against them.
Is Nigeria going to war against South Africa? We are both allies under AU, we saved your Mandela and Mbeki.

The Angolan man has challenged you, answer his Su-30 vs Gripen question.


dacostaANG:
I wanna start of by comparing current Air power of Angola, South Africa, Nigeria.

First of all I would like to ask my brothers from Nigeria if there air force has the capability to take Angola on in a dogfight between SU-30K's vs F-7 currently in service of our respective nations.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:09pm On Mar 22, 2015
andrewza:
Yet the Cobra trick is only done for shows and it has never been explained how it is of any use in combat.
Cobra is for evasion, dog fight and gun fight.

You call it a trick only because your Gripen cannot do cobra
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:03pm On Mar 22, 2015
Patchesagain:
Give us stats augugubgugug

No one is talking about Su30's... we are talking about F-7's and we want to know how you prove it is more maneuverable than the Gripen
Nope, someone is talking about Su-30 jets here and you South Africans are running away from the new Angolan man here. LOL grin grin

Any time South Africans hear the word 'ANGOLA' they shake and tremble grin grin

dacostaANG:
I wanna start of by comparing current Air power of Angola, South Africa, Nigeria.

First of all I would like to ask my brothers from Nigeria if there air force has the capability to take Angola on in a dogfight between SU-30K's vs F-7 currently in service of our respective nations.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:46pm On Mar 22, 2015
Patchesagain:
Augustus

Who said that planes die at the same rate in WVR?

Who said the Gripen is only as maneuverable as an F-7?

Are you seriously saying your COPY of a jet that first flew in 1955 is as maneuverable as a 4th Gen fighter?

Dude, this is just beyond delusional.
F-7 is NOT = MiG-21.

Gripen has canards. F-7 has new swept delta wing and vertical fin stabilizer
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
DieVluit:
And his most famous word - obsolete - showing up in all the wrong places. Of course, this is Agauby.
Is it true that you are female ?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:44pm On Mar 22, 2015
Patchesagain:
Ok.

surveillance
Line breaks: sur|veil¦lance
Pronunciation: /səˈveɪl(ə)ns/ /səˈveɪəns/
Definition of surveillance in English:

Close observation , especially of a suspected spy or criminal:
he found himself put under surveillance by British military intelligence

Origin: Early 19th century: from French, from sur- 'over' + veiller 'watch' (from Latin vigilare 'keep watch').
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/surveillance

Jackass
You are the Jackass, the oxford dictionary calls the surveillance man an OBSERVER....observation satellite....then calls the target a suspected spy....So Oxford defines surveillance as CLOSE OBSERVATION not spying grin grin

Your definition is the exact OPPOSITE of Oxford dictionary, that was why I asked you to use it.

So I let you wreck your own claims....according to oxford dictionary :

Surveillance satellite = Observer

Target being watched = Suspected spy

CASE CLOSED grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:36pm On Mar 22, 2015
saengine:
Let me be honest with you. If you want real answers, and a good honest debate.....dont waste your time on this forum. I mean someone has already answered you and managed to sneak this in...."Gripen is on par with F-7". Don't know how clued up you are on the matter, but thats the quality of answer you're going to get.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Nigerian_Air_Force_Chengdu_FT-7NI_Iwelumo-2.jpg

"ON PAR" WITH


https://www.pixstel.com/saaf-gripen-on-flightline_pics221-22148.jpg
Why are you afraid of the Angolan man on this forum? All because he comes with his Su-30 Flanker against your Gripen jet . LOL !!!

You ask him to go away from the forum because the debate is not honest here, so why are you here then? You love the 'dis-honest' debate, so let him love it too....Fool !

Yes I am the one who said F-7 and Gripen are on par in maneuverability, I have proved it here last year with videos of both jets in the air.

You need to prove me wrong with infallible proofs, not your private dishonest opinion.

SAAF and NAF are also on par with air to air missiles, we both arm our jets with short range missiles, both pilots will fly into 'NO-ESCAPE KILL-ZONE' and die together in 10 seconds.

You need solid technical analysis to prove me wrong, but you won't be able, I work with some of the best ex-USAF pilots in the world with combat experience, I know the secrets of real combat, you don't !

Welcome to the slaughter house built by Nigerians on this forum, challenge us if you dare !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:29pm On Mar 22, 2015
Patchesagain:
Augustus

Where does it say that Surveilance =/= Spy?

Lets consult the dictionary:

surveillance
[ser-vey-luh ns, -veyl-yuh ns]
noun
1. a watch kept over a person, group, etc., especially over a suspect, prisoner, or the like:
The suspects were under police surveillance.
2. continuous observation of a place, person, group, or ongoing activity in order to gather information:
video cameras used for covert surveillance.
See also electronic surveillance.
3. attentive observation, as to oversee and direct someone or something:
increased surveillance of patients with chronic liver disease.

Word Origin and History for surveillance
n.
1802, from French surveillance "oversight, supervision, a watch," noun of action from surveiller "oversee, watch," from sur- "over" + veiller "to watch," from Latin vigilare, from vigil "watchful" (see vigil ). Seemingly a word of the Terror in France.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/surveillance


Surveillance and Spy are synonyms, you illiterate cassava muncher
Fool grin grin School drop out grin grin

See the red portion in your above post, it's your dictionary definition of surveillance and NOWHERE does it say it is a synonym of spy grin grin

Surveillance allows you to be known as watching, police surveillance teams can patrol a street under surveillance and people see them.

Spy means spying unseen, secretly undetected, 100 % hidden observer, like CIA.

POLICE is NOT = CIA

You are a victim of the malnourished brain producing South African educational system grin grin

Your own dictionary source definition proves you wrong grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:23pm On Mar 22, 2015
Patchesagain:
I have allready posted it - and images it takes
https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/n/nigeriasat-x

NigeriaSAT-1R, your claimed military platform has not been launched
http://www.itc.nl/research/products/sensordb/AllSatellites.aspx
Nope, the special Nigerian cloud penetrating radar satellite is already launched and in operation since 2014, Nigeria still has other new satellites being built.

We got surveillance satellite before you and we have used our own for Navy operations and confirmed by AFRICAN DEFENSE REPORT :

"The federal government has attained a total monitoring of its maritime domain through the acquisition of satellite systems which uses radar to access movement of vessels and other navigational activities.

Obi revealed that acquisition of the satellite system is not only helping Nigeria but also other countries in the West and Central Africa Sub-regions as the agency through its radar and high-level intelligence gathering led to the rescue of a Ghanaian vessel from pirates on June 5, 2014.

His words: “The satellite platforms have made policing the Nigerian waters and some parts of the Gulf of Guinea (GoG) quite easier as ship movements are better monitored. NIMASA, with approval of relevant federal government agencies, established a fully digitalised Satellite Surveillance Centre (SSC) with sophisticated cloud penetrating radars."


http://www.african-defense.com/?p=1095

CASE CLOSED tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Patchesagain:
What is the Makopa?
A missile NOT in service with SANDF
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:10pm On Mar 22, 2015
Patchesagain:
Augustus

Spy and Surveillance are synonyms
Prove it with Oxfords dictionary
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
jl115:
Dude! your posting airshow tricks while im talking about actual combat.
The Gripen has a wing loading of 283 kg/m2 meaning it can turn tighter than any fighter in the world!
I urge you to find a modern fighter with a lower wing loadig!
andrewza:
That trick and it is a trick will not allow the SU to evade a lock. In fact the drop of speed means it becomes a easier target. The cobra is a air show trick that is all.
Su-30 Flanker was NOT built for air shows or aerobatics, it was built for combat and air superiority. At air shows, every combat aircraft displays the tactics it will use to win real life combat. Cobra movement shows how Su-30 will evade enemy missiles or turn it's gun on an enemy, it also means in ground attack mode an Su-30 can stand almost stationary in the air like a helicopter.

Any Gripen jet that attempts super-maneuverability will be broken into pieces by it's own force of movement.

No 4th generation aircraft in this world can beat an Su-30 in cannon/gun fight

SAAF Gripen jet is crap....a waste of billions of dollars
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:47am On Mar 22, 2015
jl115:
"it will also beat the South African Gripen jet because of the Gripen's poor maneuverability that is on par with the F-7."
Jap, your an id1ot.
Gripen has a much much lower wing loading meaning it can turn tighter than the su30.
The same thrust/weight ratio
Much better rate of climb
Same max speed
Much lower stall speed
Better radar
Better tracking systems
better HMD
ect ect

And FYI...The Gripen has a lower wing loading than the Euro Fighter, Rafale, Su35, Su37, su47, F22, F35 ect ect
thus meaning it is one of the most maneuverable(if not thee most maneuverable) Fighters on the market.
When missiles are wasted and finished, jet fighters turn to cannon/gun fight. No 4th generation aircraft in this world will defeat an Su-30 Flanker in a gun fight where super-maneuverability is the ONLY deciding factor for victory.


Show us how Gripen jet will handle Su-30 cobra movement-super maneuverability ! Angola will demolish South Africa in less than 1 minute !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujenrmoeALE
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:03pm On Mar 21, 2015
dacostaANG:
I wanna start of by comparing current Air power of Angola, South Africa, Nigeria.

First of all I would like to ask my brothers from Nigeria if there air force has the capability to take Angola on in a dogfight between SU-30K's vs F-7 currently in service of our respective nations.
In WVR combat of short range missiles, everybody dies at the same rate because, pilots are too close and missiles will hit targets in 10 seconds. Forget maneuverability if your pilots are not trained to exercise superior split second judgement and decision making. NAF has a modern and deadly PL-9 missile with 90% kill probability.

The advantage of the Su-30 in WVR combat will only come in a gun fight with aircraft cannon after both sides have finished wasting their missiles with ECM like flares and chaff self defences. Then your Su-30 will defeat an F-7 with better Su-30 maneuverability, it will also beat the South African Gripen jet because of the Gripen's poor maneuverability that is on par with the F-7. The Gripen is no good without BVR missiles and the South Africans have NO single BVR missile.

I will rank air to air combat capability thus :

1. Angola
2. Nigeria & South Africa
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:40pm On Mar 21, 2015
DieVluit:
Look what has happened -

Chad has saved you guys in Gamboru. But Nigeria failed to keep the town secure after Chad had liberated it.

So, Chad has had to come back...

Shame on you!!!

Chad Recapture Nigerian Town Seized By Boko Haram
Manuel Ndimele, 2 hours ago

READ MORE: http://www.naij.com/405983-chad-recapture-nigerian-town-seized-by-boko-haram.html
Same story I posted and same facts.

Ganboru is a border town close to Cameroon, in military warfare there is what we call AOR....Area Of Responsibility
, Nigerian army HQ has told Chad to stay only at border towns on a few locations and block cross border Boko Haram escapees. Gamboru has been given to Chad as AOR, Nigeria does NOT need to deploy troops there when Chad is mandated to hold that border town as MJNTF rules require. Chad left it's AOR.....foolish army of rag tag rebels with no helmet, clothed in caravan traders headgear !

ONLY A FOOLISH ARMY LIBERATES A TOWN AND LEAVES WITHOUT MAINTAINING A GARRISON FORCE LEFT BEHIND TO HOLD THE TOWN.....battlefield rules of invasion number I

Those Chadian troops are rag tag rebels who did not attend military academy, so they lost what they got initially. Why did they go back after realizing their mistake? They did so to avoid embarrassment because the world will say Chad won a town in February and lost the same town to Boko Haram in March cheesy cheesy

That proves to you that Chad will do 5 % and nothing more, with 2,500 troops and ZERO air force, you can NEVER win a war on a land mass the size of Scotland with that tiny rag tag army.

Nigeria army liberated 40 towns, show me one that Boko Haram has dared to go back and attack after Nigeria beat them blue black, show me one !

Chadian army is a fluke, a flash in the pan.....all na wash cheesy cheesy

Nigerian army wins 40 towns and places garrison to hold all 40 towns.....masters of military strategy ! Israel is saluting us !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:32pm On Mar 21, 2015
DieVluit:
One question -

WHY DID YOU POST AN AMERICAN SATELLITE IMAGE AND CLAIM IT WAS NIGERIAN?

You are desperate, seeing as you do not have h:

1. high-resolution images to display.; or

2. Specs to discuss. lipsrsealed
Random photos, British websites too have images of Nigeria on them.

I now post one that clearly says it's done with Nigerian satellite, and it's a British website stating boldly that NIGERIA SATELLITE HAS AMAZING HIGH RESOLUTION image quality.....we got a British satellite NOT a Southie monkey model export version from Russia cheesy cheesy



"Wed, 28 Sep 2011 :

Nigeria’s new satellite demonstrates stunning high resolution capability


The first high resolution satellite imagery is today released from NigeriaSat-2, as engineers from the Nigerian space agency (NASRDA) and the satellite’s manufacturer Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd (SSTL) continue in the successful commissioning of the new satellite from NASRDA’s headquarters in Abuja. Testing of all the systems on-board the satellite has been successfully completed, and calibration of the imaging payloads is ongoing with outstanding results already being produced.

This 2.5m resolution pan-sharpened example shows the airport at Salt Lake City, USA with the terminal buildings, runway layout and surrounding roads all clearly visible.

At next week’s International Astronautical Congress in Cape Town, NASRDA and SSTL will present a selection of impressive high resolution images from NigeriaSat-2 collected in these early stages of the mission. "


http://www.sstl.co.uk/Press/Nigeria-s-new-satellite-demonstrates-stunning-high

https://www.sstl.co.uk/SSTL/Media/Press/1893/N2_salt_lake_terminal_buildings_final_300dpi.jpg

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:17pm On Mar 21, 2015
mzilakazi:
Bwahahaha… what a desperate remarks!!

Chief we don't need your half baked education to convince us about the only most advanced spy satellite in Africa that SA acquired from RUSSIA. Your comments are mostly based from an illusional DA's so called shadow minister of defence who is not even allowed to sit on any defence meetings with generals.


SA kondor E has SAR capability, so what else would you argue for?
[size=16pt] South Africa has a mere basic monkey model ordinary surveillance satellite tongue tongue [/size]


According to SIPRI military experts, South Africa got an ordinary Surveillance satellite like other countries like Nigeria did before you, the only problem is that yours is an inferior MONKEY MODEL that produces BABOON IMAGES tongue tongue

Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 2014 to 2014 can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>.

Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 21 March 2015


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments

Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


France
R: Morocco 2 Helios-2 Recce satellite 2013 EUR500-585m deal; designation uncertain (reported as 'observation satellites'); delivery 2017-2018

Peru 1 Astrosat-300 Surveillance satellite 2014 PEN597 m ($203 m) deal (offsets incl technology transfers); delivery 2016

Taiwan (ROC) 1 ROCSAT-2 Recce satellite 1999 2005 1 $70 m deal;

UAE 2 Helios-2 Recce satellite (2013) EUR700 m deal; Pleiades version


Israel
R: Italy 1 Ofeq Recce satellite 2012 $182 m deal; OPTSAT-3000 version; delivery 2015

Italy
L: Turkey 1 Göktürk Recce satellite 2009 EUR250 m 'Reconnaissance Satellite System Project'; delivery 2015

Russia
R: South Africa 1 Kondor-E Surveillance satellite 2006 ZAR1.2 b 'Project Consolidated Flute' deal; delivery 2015

SOURCE : http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

Your Southie nation is proved NOT to be on the list of thoe who got spy or reconnaissance satellites like Morocco


Surveillance NOT Spy satellite.... MONKEY MODEL inferior surveillance satellite for wretched ANC republic !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:13pm On Mar 21, 2015
DieVluit:
Chad at it again...

Troops from Niger and Chad discovered a mass grave with more than 90 decomposed bodies near a northern Nigerian town recently retaken from the Islamic militant group Boko Haram, security sources from both countries said Friday.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/20/africa/nigeria-mass-grave/
Chad's 5% effort. Anyway, Boko Haram hit Gamborou this week while the incompetent Chadian army move elsewhere to hunt for new glory, after the town was said to be 'totally liberated.'

So what is the benefit of Chad's effort? Now we see how 2,500 troops cannot do more than 5% of the war effort, when they move away leaving no garrison behind to protect, Nigerian army liberated and held control of 40 towns, Chad cannot liberate and keep control of 3 towns, now we know who is fighting 90 % of this war !

Boko Haram returns Chadian army of 2,500 troops were dribbled around like Ronaldo cheesy cheesy

http://news.yahoo.com/boko-haram-attacks-nigeria-town-gamboru-kills-11-165025844.html

Your mercenary story of old men has been demolished so you now return to Chad. Desperado ! LOL cheesy cheesy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:47pm On Mar 21, 2015
saengine:
Facts. As opposed to someone else's loud opinion. Leaked South African spy cables also show proof of Russian technicians working in South Africa....regarding ground control based in SA. Two completely separate sources, saying the same thing. As opposed to a mad man shouting here.
Russia built your satellite 100% . No single South African engineer was involved. Russia kept away all the technical secrets from your ugly faces.

Nigerian engineers built Nigeria's second satellite, we know all the technological secrets.

South Africa got export version which makes it an inferior MONKEY MODEL and just an ordinary surveillance satellite NOT a spy sat.

Many countries around the world have radar cloud penetrating satellites and they are not telling lies that it is a spy satellite.

SIPRI clearly lists those who got Spy satellites called Recce satellites....Morocco, Taiwan, Turkey etc.

According to SIPRI military experts, South Africa got an ordinary Surveillance satellite like other countries like Nigeria did before you, the only problem is that yours is an inferior MONKEY MODEL that produces BABOON IMAGES tongue tongue

Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 2014 to 2014 can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>.

Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 21 March 2015


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments

Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


France
R: Morocco 2 Helios-2 Recce satellite 2013 EUR500-585m deal; designation uncertain (reported as 'observation satellites'); delivery 2017-2018

Peru 1 Astrosat-300 Surveillance satellite 2014 PEN597 m ($203 m) deal (offsets incl technology transfers); delivery 2016

Taiwan (ROC) 1 ROCSAT-2 Recce satellite 1999 2005 1 $70 m deal;

UAE 2 Helios-2 Recce satellite (2013) EUR700 m deal; Pleiades version


Israel
R: Italy 1 Ofeq Recce satellite 2012 $182 m deal; OPTSAT-3000 version; delivery 2015

Italy
L: Turkey 1 Göktürk Recce satellite 2009 EUR250 m 'Reconnaissance Satellite System Project'; delivery 2015

Russia
R: South Africa 1 Kondor-E Surveillance satellite 2006 ZAR1.2 b 'Project Consolidated Flute' deal; delivery 2015

SOURCE : http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

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Surveillance NOT Spy satellite.... MONKEY MODEL inferior surveillance satellite for poor Soweto tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
MikeCZAR:
List us 10 Modern weapons which are currently operated by Nigeria please.
MikeCZAR:
You can even list one? undecided
No need, it's so clear ! Only one point I will give you....

Nigeria has 30 modern air to surface missiles, South Africa has ZERO !


Leave the rest of the matter in peace.

[img]http://2.bp..com/-6IB7ps6JxYk/TbA6tzRAQ1I/AAAAAAAAAVo/DrwA3RfGzRs/s1600/Pakistan+army+air+force+CH-3+unmanned+combat+aerial+vehicles+%2528UCAV%2529+China+FT-5+AR-1laser+guided+missile+Pakistan+Aeronautical+Complex+%2528PAC%2529+Falco+UAV+NESCom+Burraq+UAV+predator+MQ-1+MQ-9+%25281%2529.jpg[/img]
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:18pm On Mar 21, 2015
patches689:
I have allready compared the specs on this forum

Do you wish me to humiliate you again?
Nope, you only humiliated yourself because you could NOT find any specs of Nigerian radar cloud penetrating satellite on internet, it's classified
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
charlos14:
[size=13pt]
So before all these "mercenaries" were the nigerian planes and helicopters flying themselves?[/size]
The above is an intelligent question !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:13pm On Mar 21, 2015
Msauza:
That is untrue. Rhinos were transfered to Botswana because there was some evidence that poaching was facilitated by people within. So, that was a tactical move to root out the moles out of their holes.


However, we are still saying SA does not need any military help from its neighbours to fight insurgency.
You have no insurgency yet, wait till you get one. Your Rhino poaching solution is to run away to Botswana, that is how you will handle any threat like an insurgency, same thing in Bangui, run away from Seleka, always run like a springbok....South African military solution
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:56pm On Mar 21, 2015
Patchesagain:
So your argument is:

We cant afford it

Uhh... your two sat's cost £35 million

Our one cost £55 million.

Seems it is you who cannot afford it
Financial Fraud ! ANC government over-inflated the cost of the South African satellite ! When whistle blowers called for investigation into the money, the ANC government said no, there cannot be any audit because it is a secret satellite for spying, that was how the spy satellite language came in, the Russians designed it as a mere surveillance satellite NOT spy.

So ANC avoided public investigation for fraud with the false claim of a secret spy satellite, BUT IS IT SECRET NOW? THE INFORMATION IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON SIPRI and even ordinary @Patches on nairaland is quoting the satelite's full capacity specifications, so where is the secret? The real secret is that the cost was inflated by South African politicians in a fraudulent deal, they purchased an ordinary survellance satellite at much over the normal price, swallowed the excess cash and said....hush hush....it is a secret !

The two Nigeria observation satellites cost £70 total price, the 3rd satellite is superior cloud penetrating and cost is NOT disclosed, it is more expensive and superior to our 1st and 2nd satellites and ours are top quality British satellites not monkey model Russian satellites like yours.

South Africa paid £ 55 million over-inflated price for a MONKEY MODEL RUSSIAN SATELLITE....fraud scandal news below....

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Scandal-looms-over-missing-spy-satellite-20140119


Patchesagain:
Project took 7 years because the Kondor-E was in development - the Russians only put the first one into space in 2013

Resolution

Your 1 satelite is only capable of a resolution of 22m and the other is capable of a resolution of 2,5m in perfect conditions.

Ours is capable of 2m resolution regardless of conditions.

They are not capable of providing meaningfull military grade images.
Took you 7 years because South Africa could not make full payment in time, and also delayed because Russia refused to give South Africa technical control over your own satellite , SA government stopped paying cash balance, Russia did not care about your nagging like a frustrated housewife, delay continued until your South African nation bowed to Putin's command, the Russians rule over you and your satellite forever.

Nigerian engineers built one of our satellites and we have 100% control over all our satellites.

Citation needed, where did you get specs and capabilities of Nigeria's 3 satellites ? The 3rd one is even most classified.


Patchesagain:
Kondor-E technical specifications

https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/k/kondor-e

The capabilities of your satelite have been compared to ours - yours are significantly inferior

It is a military satelite. Observation is a synonym for spying you dofus.
The specs and capabilities of your Kondor satellite are avilable on free public internet ! Wow ! Then it's not a secret spy satellite, all it's YANSH & SHIIT is already published for free public knowledge on internet !

Nigeria's satellite is military grade confirmed :


"The two satellites - the NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X - were launched on a Russian Dnepr rocket from Yasny, which is located in southern Russia. The space crafts were built at SSTL in Guildford, United Kingdom, but under the Nigerian National Space Research Development Agency (NASRDA). 26 Nigerian engineers worked at the SSTL, assembling NigeriaSat-X, which weighs around 100 kilograms (220 pounds). According to the government, the two satellites can be used for forestry, mapping, disaster monitoring, military applications and security , among other functions. "I congratulate our nation for this new chapter in our transformational efforts as we strive for self-reliance," President Goodluck Jonathan said. "Let me congratulate the resourceful Nigerians who made this history possible." According to Jonathan, NigeriaSat-X was designed and built by Nigerian engineers and scientists , while NigeriaSat-2 was built in collaboration with Surrey Satellite Technology Limited in Britain."


www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=2604:nigeria-launches-spy-satellites-into-orbit

Patchesagain:
Nigeria's 3rd satellite is a surveillance satellite controlled by NAF and NN, it is an advanced cloud penetrating radar satellite with day and night vision. It is a MILITARY GRADE SATELLITE used by Nigerian Navy to track fast moving pirate boats in deep ocean, it's radar is all weather and powerful enough to detect fast moving small objects that have small RCS. This new 2014 satellite has been posted here dozens of times repeatedly with sources.

You delusional ape, there is no such thing.
It has been repeated on this forum more than 20 times since last year with sources....You CANNOT delete the proof, Nigeria has a radar cloud penetrating day/night all weather high image resolution military grade high power detection surveillance satellite that can detect a small boat on the big ocean.....

"The satellite platforms have made policing the Nigerian waters and some parts of the Gulf of Guinea (GoG) quite easier as ship movements are better monitored. NIMASA, with approval of relevant federal government agencies, established a fully digitalised Satellite Surveillance Centre (SSC) with sophisticated cloud penetrating radars.

NIMASA’s MoU with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force to enhance water patrol and aerial surveillance of Nigeria’s maritime domain has been very successful".


http://www.maritimesecurityafrica.com/Pages/Detail/16041

Meanwhile, y.our Kondor -E means E for Export, and export version different from the original top quality Russian Kondor, South Africa got what you have always talked about on this forum....

Russian made export versions of equipment for 3rd world countries, INFERIOR MONKEY MODELS.....it will give you low quality Baboon images and photographs, South Africa has been R.aped by Russia tongue tongue tongue


TOP QUALITY IMAGE BY NIGERIAN MILITARY USE SATELLITE SHOWING AIRPORT, ALL AIRCRAFT CLEARLY VISIBLE



https://content.satimagingcorp.com/static/galleryimages/high-resolution-satellite-image-lagos-nigeria.jpg

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:37pm On Mar 20, 2015
Patchesagain:
Conscription was instituted in South Africa in the form of 9 months of service for all white males between the ages of 17 and 65 years old.
http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/military-service-becomes-compulsory-white-south-african-men
So far, all evidence shown here by you Southies is ONLY ONE SINGLE 18 YEAR OLD SADF man named David who fought in Angola war.

Conscripts include non-combatants and those deployed for only homeland security without firing one single bullet 1,000 km away from home in Angolan war zone.

1 soldier out if 4,000 soldiers fighting in war zone Angola.

You have all FAILED to prove large numbers of 17 year old SADF boys fighting war inside Angola, 1 over 4,000 = 0.00025 % = total failure without option of resit or carry over in the exam, you have to drop out of school and go learn mechanic work
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:16pm On Mar 20, 2015
Thiza:
SANDF DOES NOT NEED ASSISTANCE FROM NEIGHBOURS TO FIGHT ITS OWN WARS
You actually kneeled down to beg your neighbor Botswana to show you mercy after South African Rangers, Army and Air Force combination FAILED to defeat local Rhino poachers who now control Kruger Park and land size of Israel inside your homeland, yes Botswana helped you hide Southie 500 Rhinos inside Botswanan territory where they have a better army.

That means if terrorists invades South Africa, all of you will run to Botswana for protection
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
rka1:
It doesn't matter how many articles you post recycling the same thing. You and the Western press will have to Get used to a resurgent Nigerian Army. #NeverAgain, #ArmedToTheTeeth. grin grin cool
You dey mind dat mumu ?

SA mercenaries "attacking only at night"....because Boko Haram is asleep during the day and does not operate, or they just allow Boko Haram to freely operate in day time killing thousands of innocent civilians, unrestrained and unstoppable because SA mercenaries are waiting for night fall so that they can strike back in the dark like Bat-Men cheesycheesy

When Chadian army had become rendered useless by Nigerian army, the white people's foreign media now want to transfer glory to nocturnal Dracula-Vampire night-flight-only South African mercenaries cheesycheesy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Patchesagain:
No:

- you have 2 observation satelights, NigeriaSat-1 died in 2012
- your other 2 satellites are for environmental observation and disaster reflief with low resolution.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24025-how-nigeria-has-been-using-its-satellites.html#.VQtnmI6UeSo

By contrast, our satellite is a dedicated spy sattelight, with synthetic aperture radar that has a resolution of 2-3 meters and with its unique dish set-up it has a field of veiw of 500km on either side of it - meaning it does not have to be constantly re-positioned.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24025-how-nigeria-has-been-using-its-satellites.html#.VQtnmI6UeSo


You do not have a satellite in this class and you never will - you cannot afford it!
1. Mumu, South Africa is only able to afford one single lone satellite, Nigeria afforded to pay for the three satellites we have.

Your cash flow problem has no quick remedy, you struggled for about 7 years to pay Russia full price for the one lone satellite you have. Nigeria paid for 3 satellites without sweating, Southies cannot afford to buy 3 cheesycheesy

2. Did you read your own comment? Are you iinsane? You said Nigerian satellites have low resolution poor quality images, but your own source quoted to back up your claim says you are a big liar :

" It was succeeded by NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X, which both launched in 2011 carrying similar instruments for high resolution images including infrared cameras. These satellites were also made at SST, with Nigerian engineers helping to build the latter. In addition to a continued environmental mission, the satellites' high-resolution images of the country will help Nigeria review electoral boundaries ahead of its general elections in 2015."

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24025-how-nigeria-has-been-using-its-satellites.html#.VQtnmI6UeSo

So you just wrecked your own argument by your own hands. cheesycheesy

Those 2 Nigerian observation satellites has captured high quality images of an American airport zoomed to show American aircraft parked there, we can spy on all nations if we wish to.

3. You goofed badly with your error upon errors, both Nigerian satellites are military grade capability......and one of them is built proudly by Nigerian engineers to British standards. Your own satellite is built 100% by Russians and is a degraded inferior monkey model.

"The two satellites - the NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X - were launched on a Russian Dnepr rocket from Yasny, which is located in southern Russia. The space crafts were built at SSTL in Guildford, United Kingdom, but under the Nigerian National Space Research Development Agency (NASRDA). 26 Nigerian engineers worked at the SSTL, assembling NigeriaSat-X, which weighs around 100 kilograms (220 pounds). According to the government, the two satellites can be used for forestry, mapping, disaster monitoring, military applications and security , among other functions. "I congratulate our nation for this new chapter in our transformational efforts as we strive for self-reliance," President Goodluck Jonathan said. "Let me congratulate the resourceful Nigerians who made this history possible." According to Jonathan, NigeriaSat-X was designed and built by Nigerian engineers and scientists , while NigeriaSat-2 was built in collaboration with Surrey Satellite Technology Limited in Britain."


www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=2604:nigeria-launches-spy-satellites-into-orbit


Nigeria is MASTER over all Africa in satellite technology and capability as well as experience in satellite applications for modern warfare.


4. Citation needed to prove the technical specifications you claim for your Kondor satellite.

5. Your Kondor satellite is a MONKEY MODEL DOWNGRADED AND DEGRADED INFERIOR version made by Russia for export market only. Remember how many times you called Nigeria's Russian made equipment monkey models, now I welcome you to the club.

Meanwhile, one of Nigeria's satellites is British made and superior to South Africa's monkey product imported from Russia.

I am shoooooting y.ou with your own rifle today cheesycheesy

6. Russian sources posted here repeatedly say your satellite is ordinary surveillance satellite NOT spy satellite and SIPRI database confirms that, so it's a civilian grade copy of what Russian ministry of defense uses as civil servants NOT military.

7. Nigeria's 3rd satellite is a surveillance satellite controlled by NAF and NN , it is an advanced cloud penetrating radar satellite with day and night vision. It is a MILITARY GRADE SATELLITE used by Nigerian Navy to track fast moving pirate boats in deep ocean, it's radar is all weather and powerful enough to detect fast moving small objects that have small RCS. This new 2014 satellite has been posted here dozens of times repeatedly with sources.

8. Three satellites for Nigeria, one only for South Africa, you are still many years behind the giant of Africa, so your struggle continues....Aluta continua cheesycheesy

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:09pm On Mar 20, 2015
DieVluit:
Bwahahaha

If your "top secret" pics are not shared, how do you know you have them?

What a joke!

As for the Kondor, where do you say and prove that it's not military grade? Nowhere.
Your Kondor satellite is civilian grade NOT used by Russian armed forces, it was built for Russia's civilian ministry of defense and where in the world, ministry of defense is civil service and workers there are civilians NOT soldiers. Russian source revealed that last year and I posted both the web link and photoscreen shots repeatedly till we all got tired of reading it.

You bought a civilian satellite inferior to the Russian version because yours is a degraded monkey model
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:32pm On Mar 20, 2015
jln115:
Hey F8cktard i wasnt talking about the number of satellites Nigeria has i wanted a source of how they were better than the kondor E!
Nigeria has a state-of-the art cloud penetrating high resolution day/night radar satellite.

Does your monkey model Kondor E have same power? Show us
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