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DieVluit:
Which could only mean that if nigerians could THINK, you wouldn't need SA companies there

If South Africans could think, you wouldn't need Nigerias Dangote there
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mzilakazi:
You know well that we still have your $15 million. I actually needed to say R150 million.

The cash remains untouchable by South Afriacn law....and the court is in dilema while Zuma is afraid, and your minister promised to return it as it was a legitimate transaction....so you wanna steal ? Hungry thief is South Africa's new name?

LOL, you playing with fire o !

DieVluit:
Lol on top of everything else, we also give you jobs?

Well, well, it gets even more interesting.

So we also pay you for your time 8 hrs from each day of your miserable lives?

Ok dude. I couldn't have made a better revelation

If you didn't have 10 million lazy black men in South Africa who refuse to work and eat from their labour, you wouldn't need immigrants to save your economy from collapse
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mzilakazi:
SA control your economy big time and you can't deny it. That's why we took your $150 million to add it to our next national budget. Probably it would go to SANDF.

$150 million? Source please ?
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DieVluit:
Without any significant precense of nigerian multinationals, those are refugees.

They have entry Visa or SA immigration was hypnotized to collect Visa application fees from Nigerians and issue entry visas without knowing they did?

DieVluit:
But nigeria still refibes LESS crude than SA and other African peers.

Nigeria still has diesel shortages this month.

SA which has no oil refines more crude.

SA which has no oil can make diesel from gas and coal.

Pathetic story there,for nigeria.

Nigeria consumes more fuel than many African countries combined, we have the biggest economy, we need more fuel, and Dangote is building a super oil refinery in Lagos EEZ , we are growing capacity and improving.

mzilakazi:
Eish!!! Do you mean people who work as barbers and drug pushers? If you would have known.

We have Nigerian doctors, nurses, and science teachers saving your HIV sick lives in Southie hospitals and teaching the dull brains of your dull children in school.

A Nigerian barber who pays tax is more useful to South African government and nation than a lazy black man in Soweto who refuses to work, pays no tax, and demands free houses and free cash from ANC governemnt....cursed nation and wasted generation of South Africa
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DieVluit:
But you don't refine it. We refine more..

Nigeria has 3 working oil refineries, but demand is bigger than capacity because our economy grows so fast and beats South Africa, we consume all we refine, we import the shortfall, every country imports something, but South African economy will collapse without massive oil imports, you are hydrocarbon deficient, God did not bless you with oil and gas.

Try pour gold and platinum inside your cars and let's see if it drives well on your Southie roads
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DieVluit:
Driven and colonized

Half a million Nigerians in South Africa is a silent invasion and colonization force, 10 times bigger than your SANDF army
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DieVluit:
But we refine MORE crude oil than you do lol.

#wrecked

You import crude oil. We own oil and walk on it. It exporters deny you shipments, South African refineries will collapse or you can refine sugarcane from Tanzania instead
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mzilakazi:
Bigger economy only on paper and in reality is driven by the mighty SA.

SA drives Nigerias oil, gas, solid mineral industry plus our agriculture and nollywood?

Post us a source to prove that.

I can say Nigeria drives South African economy with Dangote and our doctors in your service sector as well as hundreds of thousands of Nigerian traders and workers who engage in your country's economic production to drive up your GDP and pay tax, while the South African lazy blacks refuse to work and live on ANC governemnt cash gifts as daily means of parasitic livelihood .

Shame on the lazy millions of men and their doomed South Africa
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DieVluit:
The kruger national park is africa's TOP park. And it's got TRAVEL RECOGNITION

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/11270782/The-worlds-best-countries.html

Show us nigeria's

1.tourism numbers; and

2. Tourism awards.

You CAN'T.

Nigeria is not fvcking interested in any fvcking tourism competition with any country, we have the biggest economy in Africa and makes us superior to you Southies, get that fact drilled into your thick skull !
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DieVluit:
exactly! 2 world heritage sites against 8. Nuff said.

The other stuff you listed isn't even worth a second glance.

And lol about the false 5 million figure.

Oh by the way, awards and tourist numbers. Where are they? Show us!

So your tourist attractions aren't really attractions if they attract neither tourists nor awards.

Awards by who? Anybody can give awards to whoever they wish. British Airways winning awards does not make Britain the best airline operator on planet earth.

Why don't you ask tourists themselves from all over the world to vote and we see who gets awards?

Ethiopia, Morocco, Sychelles, Reunion are very quiet and silent African countires with great worldwide tourism ratings superior to South Africa
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DieVluit:
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But Americans are the second highest source of oversea visitors to South Africa.

But more than Americans go to SA.

Asia goes to SA.

Africa goes to SA.

AmericA goes go SA.

Europe goes to Sa.

As if that's not enough, the entire world gets together and says "yes, SA is the best". Not once, but multiple times.

And you had no knowledge of statistical efforts on tourism. I showed you.

You also pulled back hour argument about lagos being highly visitors.

So as matters stand currently, Nigeria has ZERO. SA has the world.

By the way, by 400k are ACTUAL tourists, as confirmed by StatsSA, a government agency.

Post the StatsSA source here for us to see, web link...oya now post it.

Do you know how many Americans, British, Chinese, Indians, Israelis and French, visit the oil rich African nations like Nigeria, Angola, Gabon?

Show me a source from all 53 African countires that show how many Americans and Europeans go there annually.

You have NO official governemnt data, so you post your personal patriotic opinion and expect us to swallow it?

Mumu
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mzilakazi:
Damn!!! man you are sick.

Nope it's you who is sick, posting all general travellers as tourists, including business, educational, religious, and etc travellers. Next time use your head before you post sources. Mumu
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DieVluit:
I have showed you BETTER. American arrivals in South Africa. LOL.

I have also showed you awards.

I have showed you world heritage sites.

I have showed you that Nigeria has nothing.

But seeing as you asked:

"The UNWTO Statistics and Tourism Satellite Account Programme is committed to developing tourism measurement for furthering knowledge of the sector, monitoring progress, evaluating impact, promoting results-focused management, and highlighting strategic issues for policy objectives.

The programme works towards advancing the methodological frameworks for measuring tourism and expanding its analytical potential, designs practical guidance for their implementation in countries, supports statistical strengthening in countries through capacity building, and compiles and disseminates tourism statistics of countries all over the world."

About 20 million American tourists visit Mexico and Carribean yearly as tourists not just travellers.

Your ~ 400,000 figure includes all American travellers from business to official to religious to research to educational, so what's your boasting about?

Can you show me a South African government immigration office publication on how many real tourists from America visit South Africa.

All your sources are unreliable.

Travel Arrival is NOT = tourists on recreational visit.

Those figures include business, official, research, educational, religious, etc visitors all lumped together as arrival at airport in South Africa.

Same way the Nigerians from TB Joshuas Synagogue church coming for religious crusade will be wrongly counted as tourists by a fool like you just because they landed arrived at a South African airport

No source has all 53 African governemnts official data of tourism compiled into one source to prove who leads Africa.

Seychelles and Reunion are top class in Africa for tourists, yet they don't make noise and fake up numbers like South Africa
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DieVluit:
You mean the same TRAVELLERS that go to Lagos? LOL

And South Africa saw 14 860 216 foreign visitors last year. The main source of oversees tourists the UK contributed 442 523 . The US? 417 582 - not too far from the top contributor.

Nigeria cannot track tourists cause it's not worth it and the country can't keep stats.

But South Africa and any other SANE country can track tourist arrivals and departures. http://www.southafrica.info/travel/tourists-290514.htm#.VKKy9AJcE

LOL - man, give up! The tourists have spoken with their feet and money - and ACTUALLY went to South Africa.

If Ethiopia led preferences, there'd be numbers and awards to rival South Africa's, but there is NONE OF THAT.

In any case, thank you for pulling back the argument about Lagos being an attraction.

Show me who has tracked REAL TOURISTS around the world and collected official data from 150 governments of 150 countries around the world and compiled it into one reliable source....
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DieVluit:
His sources are better. The first one is based on reliable MASTERCARD data and the mastercard index.

"Africa’s top destination for international travellers is South Africa’s Johannesburg, with an estimated 4.25m visitors for 2014, according to this year’s MasterCard Global Destination Cities Index released this week."

The wiki entries list the references at the bottom.

You posted blogs.

He posted a source for overnight travellers NOT tourists, you dummy!

Wikipedia remains private opinion of unreliable people.

Nobody can accurately track tourists around the world, they are private visits, and happens so randomly.

Ehtiopia leads by peoples preferences, reason why two different sources mention them as Africas best place tourists want to go.

The tourists themselves have spoken, not some goddam MasterCard data of medical travellers, business travellers, government official travellers, student researchers, visitors/tourists all lumped together as GENERAL TRAVELLERS...fool
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mzilakazi:
I guess here is truth. Stop bringing in blogs which are drawn from a personal point of view.



http://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/africas-top-five-most-travelled-to-cities/41315/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+HowWeMadeItInAfrica+(How+We+Made+It+In+Africa)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

Your sources are not better than mine.

Your first source is an unknown unrecognised website, second source Wikipedia, both are peoples private opinion.

You were too blind to read your first source is talking about travelers on overnight trips NOT tourists who spend weeks seeing a country.

It's hard to track tourists around the world and record which country is best.

However, I stand on my point, American has the largest tourists numbers in the world traveling out of USA as tourists visiting other countries, they hardly ever visit Africa or South Africa, they go to Mexico and Carribean Islands without reporting to any agency to record their trips

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vandalZA:
are you crazy or what did you even checked the links.........those links are someone's view not posted by world tourism organisation

How many tourists register with world tourism organization to record their trips?

The largest tourists numbers in this world are the Americans, and they hardly ever go to Africa, they go to Mexico and Carribean Islands.

Forget South African and Kenya, they are behind Ethiopia, just that some countries are quiet and don't post much internet photos and statistics.

South Africa is overrated in every so called achievement and seem to deceive the outside world with photos and false data.

Zimbabwean immigrants are counted as tourists in South Africa.

No sensible American or European will go to Kenya and get slaughtered by El-Shabab, even in Nairobi the shopping malls are victims of terrorist attacks
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DieVluit:
The most idiotic post on the planet.

Yes, and south africa became the top voted destination despite "everything".

Top city to be visited? Cape Town!

Country with MuLTIPLe tourism awards? SA. Awards that are BESTOWED on SA by the INtERNational community.

Keep your strawmAn about the US. It's a poor strawmAn even. Not a smart post my friend.

Not one country but the WORLD wants to go to "crime ridden" SA. Even nigerian refugees want in. The present and future of AIDS nigeria. You can't do worse on AIDS than the country raising the most AIDS babies on the planet.

Dude, South Africa is NOT among the world's top 10 tourism destinations, and for Africa, Ethiopia and Morocco beat South Africa.

Same way you claim SA has top ranked universities, yet your citizens are second dullest brains in the world.

Ethiopia appears many times on different top 10 lists and South Africa remains missing. You guys have been counting/recording Zimbabwean immigrants as foreign tourists.

http://blog.southpacific.org/top-10-travel-destinations

http://www.roughguides.com/best-places/2014/top-10-countries/

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DieVluit:
Sources are all over my posts. Besides, just a cut and paste of all I say into google will bring up the sources.

Yes, SA holds so many tourism awards it's gotta be a record.

The greatest tourists in the world are the Americans, they hardly ever come to South Africa, they go to Mexico and Caribbean Islands.

Stay there in SA crime-land r.ape-land and be giving yourselves deceptive tourism awards
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dakingsman:
I come in peace, laid my hand on few NA T-72 TANKS, postin it soonish

Thanks bros
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mzilakazi:
AIDS is your buddy in Nigeria. Get tested.

http://www.punchng.com/editorial/nigerias-high-hivaids-prevalence-rate/

Are you by chance, the second infected Soweto carrier we are looking for today?
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mzilakazi:
Nigeria's tourist industry is up to scratch. Kenya is much much better.

With regular visits by El-Shabab militants, Kenya is now a dangerous tourism zone.

Kenya does not have the level of modern infrastructure in Nigeria's Tinapa, Calabar. Tinapa is world class, ignorant people like you don't know details of Tinapa.
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DieVluit:
So does the whole world.

But the tourists and your refugees go to see SA's tall buildings.

They are OFFICIALLY discouraged from going to nigeria because of safety concerns.

Nigeria has TINAPA in Calabar, world class tourism zone
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DieVluit:
Being a carrier and living a productive life is better than DYING from aids.

Fact is AIDS is killing more nigerians than it kills south africans.

Are you one of the two infected guys we are looking for?
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[size=16pt]With the HIV infection percentage rate in South Africa, it means 2 of the 8 South Africans on this forum chatting with us are AIDS carriers.

Now Soweto men on Nairaland, who are the 2 people with short life span/expiry date among you?

Be honest, don't lie, we won't run away from you, we will recommend help for you the Nigerian way, but only if you confess first....
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iterator24:
in today's news
m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Violence-a-top-5-cause-of-death-20141228

"Johannesburg - South Africa has no civil war but violence is one of the top five causes of death in the country, according
to a study published by The Lancet , the Sunday Times reported.
According to the report, South Africa was the only country outside the Latin American and Caribbean region to make this
claim.
People most at risk of dying because of violence were at the prime of their lives and a group being decimated by HIV.
In 2013, almost 200 000 people between the ages of 15 and 49 died of violence, Aids-related illness and road injuries.
Suicides surged more than 200% last year, compared with 1990, the newspaper reported."



defend it mzilakazi

even boko haram didn't cause that much atrocity ..

[size=16pt]Double Wahala For Dead Body
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MikeCZAR:
Ever heard about PLAN, ZANLA, FRELIMO, MK, AZANLA and ZAPU?


Ever heard about Cuba, Soviet union and their ally countries, Angola, Tanzania, Lesotho and Botswana?

Ancient bygone history of the defunct SADF.

Today 2014, over 95% of SANDF has ZERO combat experience.

All they do is Hollywood style movie demo
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EVarn:
at bimbo,on the outskirt of bangui.here is a little fun poem,specially made for you:
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O'er the deserts
In CAR's bloody towns
Seleka pickled SANDF for dessert
Making them look like clowns
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O'er the rivers
In bangui's raging meadows
SANDF troops clutched their teeth like beavers
And hid under their pillows
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O'er the forest
In bozize's violent turf
SANDF caught seleka's interest
And got slaughtered in a snuff
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O'er the mountains,very distant
Where seleka runs free
SANDF troops pulled down their pants
And we know it wasnt to pee...
-[an excerpt from the poem,"battle of bangui" by EVarn]

[size=16pt]Master Blaster !!!
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