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patches689:
How? Why?

Give us specifications, details.

No one cares about your plebeian opinion

patches689:
SANDF doesnt need to be rebuilt

We have been top dogs since independence

patches689:
[citation needed]

Centrifude:
Modernised in South Africa by a South African Firm, I knew a Country like Nigeria wouldn't be able to resist this kind of awesome upgrade

All bullsh!t aside think N.A.F made a great choice with this one, I can't wait to hear about how they perform in combat.

GreenandGold:
In the meantime, Nigeria (a nation of barbers) begged South Africa to modernize her aged and useless Hinds.

Now thank to South Africa, Nigerians have a chance of flying a machine with 21st century avionics.

Thank you South Africa

patches689:
You are making allot of assertions and providing very little proof to substantiate your claims.

patches689:
And yet, despite your petulant tantrum, production of the first batch of 236 starts this year.

Unlike Nigerias pathetic purchase of a paltry 5 units, we are placing a substantial order

Unlike Nigeria's off the shelf purchase of a vehical designed to operate in Europe, we have spent time and money adapting it to our conditions

Unlike Nigeria's off the shelf purchase, we will be making 70% of the vehical with south african technology, skills and equipment - a true marvel of African Engineering.

Patria is the master of African IFV's

GreenandGold:

READ - It clearly states it can withstand 8kg of TNT, meanwhile the BRT-4 is a death trap.

patches689:
Has it ever occurred to you that we perhaps are using the same armor modules?

The only thing we changed in terms of armor is to upgrade the mine protection.

patches689:
How is a pleasure cruiser sophisticated?

How does it compare to the Valour Class and Heroine Class?

patches689:
Yes sure, whatever you say.

Fact is that after the sniper shot the Badger has the same situational awareness as the BTR

patches689:
Yes, back up systems will not be as good as primary systems or else the two systems make each other redundant

Your BTR has no 360 degree scope in the first place.

Hence the badger is superior.

patches689:
You mean the LAV? Because that is their only amphibious vehical, and it is being phased out in favor of the non amphibious stryker

USA is not developing anything amphibious - amphibious IFVs are a relic of cold war doctrine because they sacrifice too much armor and are sitting ducks .

The only modern armoured vehicals that need amphibious capabilities are Recon

Brand new Badgers begin production THIS YEAR with 2015 equipment and technology - compared to your obsolete BTR-4 which is nothing more than a BTR-3 with a new engine.

You say the BTR is more advanced - show us how. Give us specifications.

dakingsman:
Just received pictures of wat look like 4.5 generation fighter jets. Hope I will be allowed to post soon. The helicopters I posted has been shared world wide without been credited to @Nigerian_military_history
That's a bit rude I believe

GreenandGold:
Who cares, we have 4 stealth frigates, we need only 1 to sink your coast guard.

GreenandGold:
Oh I forgot, Nigerians don't have electricity

patches689:
Yes sure, whatever you say.

Fact is that after the sniper shot the Badger has the same situational awareness as the BTR

While it has superior armor

Not sure what you think you are proving here

patches689:
what is wrong with you?

The citation says 5

I literally posted it

Yet you keep saying two?

MikeCZAR:
Who has the most advanced defence industry on the continent?

MikeCZAR:
Here's your argument:

1. SAAF uses old platforms in the ISTAR, ELINT and COMINT roles.

Conclusion: SAAF is behind NAF.

Reality: You're wrong.

Well you're foo..led as you don't consider what's packed inside them. SA EW systems or equipment are acknowledged the world over.

They're not combat aircraft theirs is to fly.

MikeCZAR:
Its official FIB will soon continue combat operations.

This round of fighting will be difficult, as it is more like COIN in thee jungle.

Any day or weeks from now SA, Malawi and Tanzanian forces will be in action.

MikeCZAR:
You don't know.

SAAF has better capabilities. Tell us what does SAAF use for COMINT, ELINT, Radar location and more?

MikeCZAR:
All those are irrelevant as they won't help Nigeria defend her waters against enemy combat vessels.

-No missiles.
-No surface capability.
-No sub-surface capability.
-No anti-submarine capability.

Basically your navy cannot fight. They are just a coast guard.

MikeCZAR:
Different vehicles with different set of capabilities.

Mortar capability(indirect attack).
Missile capability(Anti-armour).
Gun capability(Fire support).
Infantry capability(Assault).

And more.

These vehicles deliver heavily armed troops in your back yard. Often supported by light armour(Rooikat).

Futile to attack vehicles when you infantry assaulting your position.

MikeCZAR:
Yes, we let little kids celebrate what we've done for a couple of decades now.


FLIR is new to the Nigerian military

MikeCZAR:
Unable and ineffective against pirates.

No missiles.
No surface combat capability.
No sub-surface capability.
No counter-subsurface capability.
No counter-mine capability.

charlos14:
In Ukraine, Sniper shots would take out your glorious all seeing sensors and then capture the troops. The BTR 4 went into combat and came back to fight another day.... seem like all South African military vehicles are for one time use just like condoms.

dakingsman:
Nigerian Navy Majesty 50

dakingsman:
Nigerian Airforce multi purpose surveillance DA42 aircraft

patches689:
Because we chose armor over amphib

Just like the Americans with the Bradley

patches689:
citations have been posted....

patches689:
So why then have you only been able to recapture one town?

patches689:
Production starts this year - fact, proven with citations
5 are in service, 16 on the way - fact, proven with citations

You have yet to provide any evidence to show that the BTR is in any way superior.

Badger is:

- better armoured
- better armed
- better optics/electronics
- mine protected
- carrys more men
- has a longer range
- more adaptable and versatile
- has a better combat record
- amphibious