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bidexiii:
Random pictures

Can anyone ID this APC/IFV and it's gun...Nigerian army what ? BTR-3 and gun looking unusual ?
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Centrifude:
@agaugust
"The agreement provides for the integration of
ATE (and other) avionics in a wide range of
Russian civil helicopter designs"

"The ATE avionics packages would be available
for integration on newly-built helicopters or as
moder-nisation and upgrade packages for older
examples of these models."

This means that South African Technology (Avionics) will be integrated into Russian Models, the Upgrade Packages are still of South African Origin, it doesn't say anything about A.T.E belonging to Russia.

Russia provides the Aircraft or Airframes and we upgrade them with our kit. It is a collaboration, when you have such a collaboration you will need technology transfer, because South African tech is basically Western Technology and we need to understand Russian technology to incorporate our tech, that's why A.T.E tech is considered as the combination of western and eastern technology

"ATE has also developed a composite rotor blade
for the Mi-24, to replace its original metal
blades.
This new composite blade has been entirely
designed and developed in South Africa."


Thank you for sharing that A.T.E has developed their very own indigenous Rotor Blades

#Where does it say A.T.E belongs to Russia and the A.T.E Ugrade kit is from Russia


Learn to read and understand!!!

patches689:
No other company makes the Super Hind

This is a fact

[size=16pt]Stop wasting your time Southies, NAF Mi-35 Super Hind upgrade done in Ukraine [/size]


Nigeria gets from Ukraine Mi-24 helicopters :

"Following the purchase of T-72AV and BTR-4E from the Ukraine in 2014, Nigeria, apparently acquires former Ukrainian Mi-24 combat helicopters.

Nigerian web resource beegeagle. 2 January 2015 published a picture of the two Nigeria Air Force modernization Super Hind Mk III -Mi-24 combat helicopters.

Serial works on modernization of the Mi-24 Super Hind options are carried out on contract by the Ukrainian State Enterprise “Konotop Aircraft Repair Plant” Aviacon “(Konotop, Sumy region). In 1999-2004, Konotop factory for the Algerian Air Force, upgraded 33 former Ukrainian Mi-24V to the Super Hind Mk III version, and in 2010-2011 – for the Azerbaijani Air Force 12 former Ukrainian Mi-24K to the Super Hind Mk IV (upgraded Azerbaijani helicopters received the designation Mi-24G).

Two Mi-24 passing upgrading to Super Hind version , were seen in the factory floor of “Aviacon” Ukraine on October 16, 2014"

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1121573.html

Source Beegeagle


I have always said it for the past two years on this blog, that Nigeria has a defense pact with Ukraine for any emergency weapons supply.

Watch out for Nigerian army T-84 Oplot-M tanks and more BTR-4E different versions, info says we ordered one battalion of BTR-4E
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mzilakazi:
Nigeria has only four BTR-4 in service.

Nobody knows all Nigerian weapons, sources are not easily published, all we get are few photos, Nigerian military is secretive
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GreenandGold:
Now deal with the fact that our Ingwes could be used in your precious helicopter

Citation needed
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patches689:
A couple days ago you said that Egypt would win any war because they have big muscles

You have no completely contradicted yourself.

Quote where I said Egypt will use muscles to win war.

I replied the Southies who said Egypt has good equipment but weak soldiers, and I said no, Egypt has good equip and strong men.

Anyway SANDF has the weakest soldiers in Africa, thanks to HIV
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patches689:
So you are saying that Beegeagle does not allways make factual posts and relies on hersay and rumors?

Wow, what a frank admission.

Even BBC will post it's confirmed own source claims, and also quote claims from other sources it cannot verify and declare it as 'reported'.

Excellent journalism.

Beegeagle is BBC class.

GreenandGold:
The canon and rockets were fired from a high tech, ultra-modern platform called the Rooivalk... a platform you don't have.

The Rooivalk was jointly in combat side by side with Mi-35 Hind against M23, so what?

NAF has the best high-tech 2014 Russian version Mi-35 on planet earth
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patches689:
We arent re-building

We are modernizing

All military's around the world are constantly upgrading and modernizing

Means re-building, means upgrading. Rebuilt engine does not mean the old one was thrown away, just add in and remove some stuff.

Try learn use of English, I know South African schools are thrash, try improve yourself at home.

patches689:
Gripen + Recce Pods + Sniper Pods = ISTAR

What were you saying?

And show us where it says your planes have what you claim

Gripen does only Recce for about 30 minutes only, I posted that here from Sweden and defenceweb, repeated many times
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patches689:
Badger has an asset the BTR does not have

If it gets knocked out (a one-in-a-million shot) the badger is then reduced to the same situational awareness as the BTR

What is your point?

BTR-4 camera is shielded from snipers, so we will have it, Bad-ger will lose it's over exposed over head position camera and left with the prison hole window, Badger is blinded like a street begger
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patches689:
First, this is a ridiculous notion about "snipers" hitting a moving target, while under fire. Further, you have yet to prove that a snipers round will knock it out

Moving target, does no Badger always drives and never stops? Fuel is unlimited?

AGL with 2km range does not need direct hit, a hit on turret will splinter on the camera and smash it.

Sniper with anti-material rifle, AGL, and high caliber sniper ammo rifle, all these can range about 2 km away and shatter the Bad-ger's over-exposed camera eye, one-eyed Bad-ger
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patches689:
Badger driver can place his mantle in 3 positions, completely open, open and with a BP window, or "buttoned-down"

Bwahahahaha

Bad-ger IFV tries to copy modern BTR-4...opens window...Bad-ger gun blows off Bad-ger drivers head

Bad-ger IFV = Bad-design = Death by own bullet = home goal in a football match !
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patches689:
Augustus

]That is the USMC

Their job is amphibious assault

Obviously their vehicals will be amphibious

US Marines job is to fight outside America, there is no amphibious assault terrain in Afghanistan, it has no sea, yet US marines fought there for 11 years on dry land only, is that an amphibious job ? Olodo .

Bad-ger IFV is a dry land only vehicle for local use inside South African homeland, ZERO force projection !
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patches689:
Augustus

That is the USMC

Their job is amphibious assault

Obviously their vehicals will be amphibious

US Marines job is to fight outside America, there is no amphibious assault terrain in Afghanistan, it has no sea, yet US marines fought there for 11 years, is that an amphibious job ?

Mumu.

Bad-ger IFV is a dry land only vehicle for local use inside South African homeland, ZERO force projection !
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patches689:
Nope

We have talked about this before

Missiles are coming head-on, so speed is useless

You have never proven what rockets you have - so until you do, your F-7's will have to come into CRAM range and get eaten by AHEAD ammo

F-7 operates rocket pods and the list shows rocket ranges from 3 km to 6km of various types, that's simple google search on F-7 armaments.

F-7 jet and Umkhonto missile have same speed, so I fly at safe 9 km altitude , I descend to 8km and Valour frigate fires Umkhnonto missile in desperate defense from imminent danger, I ascend back to 9km in just 2 seconds while you missile is at first phase slow lift ascent still puffing heavy smoke trying to increase momentum.

I keep flying F-7 at 9km and the helpless Umkhonto missile is useless and harmeless and wasted.

That is saturation attack combat tactics and it will waste ALL Valour frigates anti-aircraft missiles.

After that, I will come back from perpendicular angle to Valour deck safely beyond elevation zone of all guns on your ship and I will rocket the South African navy to kingdom come !

$15 million NAF F-7 jet will easily sink $300 million SAN Valour Frigates without any labour or sweat, our pilots do ground attack tactics almost every day and we are currently the most experienced in Africa for air to ground attack operations.

Only a country with no standard air force will fear a poorly armed Frigate like the Valour ships of South African navy
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patches689:
More Nigerians have never seen electricity than there are South Africans

That's because Nigeria's population is almost 4 times the human beings in South Africa

patches689:
You said our badger is not amphibious

This means it has been up-armored

Thus it is resistant to 30mm AP

You made these assertions, not me.

Nope, quote where I said Bad-ger with Bad-design can resist 30mm AP shells.

I said basic Bad-ger IFV can only resist small arms like the basic BTR-4

The extra armour on Bad-Bad-ger is at the bottom underneath chassis, trying to make an IFV look like an MRAP .

Boko Haram machine gun will penetrate Bad-ger armour and k.ill ALL the 10 soldiers inside it

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mzilakazi:
We do not speak about equipment, we speak about the will to fight. BH is more aggressive and determined than Nigerian military.

You said BH is more powerful, is it a boxing match of muscles? Military power is weapons. Fool

GreenandGold:
Yet you go all out commenting on the beetle blog and it....

....says what it knows, and quotes what other say they know from their own source that is not his, he differentiates .

Centrifude:
Who else provides such upgrades in this entire planet?

Brazil http://rostec.ru/en/news/4514251
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EVarn:
it is indeed shocking how the heat of the khalahari warps the common bantu mind.tell me,my esteemed friend,how does a private FOREIGN defence company{operating in SA},carrying out the mundane duty of upgrading nigeria's new MI35,translates into the whole of SA helping us make upgrades to the helo?

It's a Russian helicopter branch in South Africa, Brazil has the same thing....http://rostec.ru/en/news/4514251
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mzilakazi:
Fact!! remains, SA has made upgrades on NAF MI-35 and that hurts @agaugust big time.

Nope, it's Russians working on South African soil....that's if at all NAF used SA, because Brazil has same upgrade factory too from Russia

mzilakazi:
If you don't know that then you are more fool than I thought. By the way, we upgraded your MI35 just to help those who are mentally handicapped.

The Mi-35 Hind helicopter upgrade industry in South Africa is technically set up, supplied and controlled by Mil Company of Russia.

The facility is Russian technology and manpower shipped and set up on South African soil.

Another interested country can apply to Russia and get the facility established on their home soil as foreign Mil company branch.

Brazil has the same Russian helicopter upgrade facility in city of Juan Veloso http://rostec.ru/en/news/4514251

Why don't South Africa integrate Umbani guided bomb on Gripen jet? Sweden refused to give you technical help for Umbani bomb.

Russia gave you it's staff and equipment to do Hind upgrades, you did not ingeniously create the Mi-35 upgrade capability on your own.

DENEL does same with a Russian company.


"Russian Helicopters Holding Company and South Africa’s Denel Aviation have established an authorized maintenance, repairs and overhaul (MRO) service center for Russian-made civil helicopters. Unveiling the MRO Service Center was timed to coincide with the BRICS summit in South Africa that brings together heads of state of the largest emerging economies in the world - Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

Senior management of Russian Helicopters Holding Company and Denel Aviation top executives attended the opening ceremony, along with heads of operator companies and prospective new buyers of Russian rotary-wing aircraft.

Russian Helicopters supplied all the equipment required for setting up the new maintenance and service center. In addition, the Russian holding company prepared full documentation and organized training for Denel Aviation employees. South African repair and maintenance technicians received training at the Novosibirsk Aircraft Repair Plant."

http://rostec.ru/en/news/1412

ATE too is a Russian branch in South Africa using a different name than Mil to work on Hind helicopters.

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/south-african-and-russian-companies-in-helicopter-collaboration-2006-10-06


Southie glory thieves, international criminals, you have come again, this time na Russian glory you wan collect, if Putin catch you...

PHOTO : RUSSIAN EXPERTS TRANSFER HELICOPTER UPGRADE TECH AND TRAINING TO SOUTH AFRICAN BRANCH
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mzilakazi:
There's only one company that can do that and is found in SA dummy.

Official source please....prove it....company name on contract report evidence please...
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mzilakazi:
That's what American war experts also say, that BH is either equal in strength or if not more powerful than Nigerian military.

Does Boko Haram have T-72 tanks and Mi-35 Hind helicopters ?

American white men say it, so your brain is not free to evaluate or challenge it because your white master said it ?

I can now see why the white men ruled you South Africans till modern day 1994 when the rest of Africa was already free and independent.

Boer white master saw a nation of brainless creatures and cheated them till 1994 when even small Rwanda nation was free and independent.

Shame !
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Centrifude:
Go to Beegeagle, it states that it was Modified by a South African Firm, I keep telling on people that you can't read.

Which other country in the world produces that kind of design?

Beegeagle said, 'reported by some people' . He did not say it is a confirmed source, NO source to prove it so sharaaaap !
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mzilakazi:
That's untrue. The only most technologically advanced force under FIB is undoubtedly SANDF. Fact!!

Congo war DRC M23 is NOT a high-tech war, Rooivalk used only guns and old rocket pods
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mzilakazi:
Yep, because Rooivalk is stealth and hind is not. Rooivalk will notice your hind long before your hind can ever notice Rooivalk was there and by then, Boooooom!!! there goes Hind in a ball of fire.

You sound like Bobo Alinco
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mzilakazi:
Seven years back is just recent and does not equate to the last 20 years that passed and neither does it equate to 66 years.

7 years ago means we got latest technology and brand new aircraft, get it ?
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GreenandGold:
Nigerian Air Force has never shot down a combat air craft in its history

South African air force Gripen jet pilots have never shot down a combat aircraft in their history, your current pilots have ZERO combat experience including the Hawk jets
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mzilakazi:
So did NAF made any purchase of ISTAR aircraft in the last 20 years?

Yes in the recent 7 years, NAF Beechcraft ER, Diamond DA42, ATR-42 Surveyor....many....enough to make South Africa cry
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charlos14:
If you take out the all seeing eye, The driver only see forward....

He cant see if a tank is coming to crush him from his left or right...... Don't claim the Badger now have acoustics to detect side movement.
BTR4 provides 180 degree situational awareness.

Bad-ger IFV has a Bad-eye sight...Bad-ger is Bad-design
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patches689:
Lol, yet again this clown exposes his ignorance

We are stabilizing the whole of North Kivu

Something Nigeria cannot acheive in its own country - how many rebel groups do you have? 18?

SANDF is nothing in FIB without United Nations military command leading you by Tanzanian army officers
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