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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:06pm On Dec 25, 2014
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:59pm On Dec 25, 2014
jln115:
Merry x-mas to you and your family @Henry,may you have a wonderful and blessed day!! Will happily be back debating with you from Next year, but its time for the beach from now till then!

And MERRY CHRISTMAS to all my South African matjies on this thread, mag julle almal en jul families n baie geseende dag he,
And MERRY CHRITMAS to my Nigerian friends as well, and yes....a merry x-mas to you to @Auagust..
Naaa, you say Merry Xmas with greeting card in your right hand, your left hand folded behind your back looks like it has a grenade.

Don't pull the pin off that grenade o !

Merry Christmas to you !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:52pm On Dec 25, 2014
Patchesagain:
It doesnt say that anywhere in your link

You pathetic pathetic man and your pretend arsenals
You started telling lies again, even on holy Christmas Day !

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20141216000081&cid=1101
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:51pm On Dec 25, 2014
mzilakazi:
Let's talk about it after 25 years.
Nope, NAF got JF-17 just 3 years after it came into PAF service. NAF can spring up anything with J-31 stealth fighter once it enters PAF service
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:49pm On Dec 25, 2014
mzilakazi:
Naira is Africa's worst performer after Malawi's kwacha.


http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-23/nigerians-crying-for-money-as-naira-drop-boko-haram-hit-trade.html
Every currency in the world goes ding dong up and down, ever done online forex trading in your life? Dollar and Euro have had their hard times
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:01pm On Dec 24, 2014
FighterPilot:
Which NAF will likely get after 20 years.
Nope, we are already at the same level with Pakistan, we both fly F-7 and J-17, the Pakis may want J-31 stealth fighter and Nigeria has been listed along with them as likely buyer. Billions of dollars weapons money is flowing in Nigeria now.

Chew on this while your obsolescent Gripen jets rot away grounded and Mexico may rescue you as SAAF auctions off your unlucky jets tongue tongue

[size=16pt] Nigeria listed as likely buyer of Stealth jet fighter J-31

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20141216000081&cid=1101

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NAF IS GONNA FVCKING R.APE SAAF DO.GGY STY.LE
https://rt.com/files/news/china-five-generation-lightweight-fighter-378/computer-generated-imagery-f-60-fifth-600.jpg

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:13pm On Dec 24, 2014
Troop101:
Augubububu one of these days you going to claim Nigerian order the SU-34 for your TAG TAG Airforcehuh Fagg@t jou piel kop.
Nigerian air force is already on list of likely buyer of Stealth jet fighter J-31. Anything can happen with NAF. Yours Soweto air force is Rag-Tag 100% inexperienced today. Air show Hollywood actors you call SAAF pilots.....like Aki and Papaw acting combat !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Patchesagain:
[citation needed]
You don't need citation for that. Over 1,300 units of Su-27/Su-30 Flankers were produced, the only naval aircraft carrier version is Su-33 and only about 24 units were ever produced and only for Russian navy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-33

All other 1,300 Su-27/Su-30 jets are land based and built only for land bases and with Super-Maneuverability for air to air combat.

Only a fraud like you want's citation for Flanker production and specs, claiming 1,300 Flanker jets are built for navy ships to carry about.

Fraudster !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:06pm On Dec 23, 2014
FighterPilot:
Bwahahahaha,… because you know well that SANDF is not a bread and butter. Since you live in SA you know well that there is no such incidence, that you will only find in Naija.
I have a long list from a South African memorial web page, but I don't have to win an argument by posting and making fun of security forces murdered at home in cold blood
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:59pm On Dec 23, 2014
Henry120:
No, dont.
Okay I won't, I have a long list of names and the South African web page dedicated to their memory, but I won't post it.

FighterPilot:
Yes please.
No, I have been told not to post it.

To you it's fun when when security forces get murdered in cold blood NOT in a war zone, but murdered on duty on homeland. Other people say it's not fun
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:37pm On Dec 23, 2014
FighterPilot:
Whatever, the fact is they humbled the tag tag military and disappeared into thin air with the gunboat.
They murdered soldiers on patrol duty in Warri town waters, that's not a war zone, that's cold blooded murder in ambush.

Should I post South African security forces who have been murdered on homesoil by criminals?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:34pm On Dec 23, 2014
MikeCZAR:
They're your SBS .
I said show us source to prove it's SBS, I didn't say tell me your private imagination......source I am waiting.

Papa Ajascocococo !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:27pm On Dec 23, 2014
FighterPilot:
PIRATES HUMBLED NIGERIAN NAVY AND HIJACKED GUNBOAT AFTER KILLING THREE SOLDIERS. IT IS ALSO REPORTED THAT AFTER THEY OUTSMARTED THE RAG TAG MILITARY THEY DISAPPEARED WITH THE OIL.

http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Pirates-hijack-military-gunboat-in-Nigeria-20141223
Army river boat in creek of Warri town, very small boat for inland river patrol NOT a navy gunboat. No drop of oil was stolen according to your report, more like an ambush just to kill the soldiers in retaliation for effective army patrols and escorts in Warri town.

You can post photo for us to prove it's Nigerian navy Shaldag Interceptor or Stealth Combat Catamaran or maybe NNS Andoni....

Mister Snorkel, see why it's hard to trust your comments?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:03pm On Dec 23, 2014
MikeCZAR:
It was your SBS.

Your armed forces are rotten just admit it.
Show us proof it was SBS, if you don't, then you and your country remain run away servants of Seleka rebels for ever
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:00pm On Dec 23, 2014
MikeCZAR:
The cannibals? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Seleka was already mauled when they entered or took control of Bangui, this was apparent in the fact that they couldn't even fight anti-balaka.
Battle theatre: C.A.R. Bangui

Combatants:

Seleke Rebels Vs South African army.

Photo evidence of battle casualties:

SANDF = 15 Dead

Seleka rebels = 0 Dead

Conclusion:

No proof that SANDF killed any single Seleka rebel
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:53pm On Dec 23, 2014
Troop101:
Ai what's wrong with Nigerianhuh? Pirates hijack a navy gunboat!!! What a disgrace for a RAG TAG Navy.
LOL. Illiterate man. It was an army inland river boat with 3 soldiers likely an escort team, ran into an ambush.

I don't think you know what a Nigerian navy gunboat looks like.

Ever seen a Shaldag or Stealth Catamaran before? You need a warship to hijack them .

Mumu Domingo grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:30pm On Dec 23, 2014
patches689:
As far as I can tell there is no major difference between teh Su-30 that is land based on naval based

There is no specialist naval version - just some with extra corrosion protection
According to you, all the over 1,000 units of Su-27/Su-30 are built with super-maneuverability to enable them land on aircraft carriers at sea, you have no proof and you keep insisting, and you are wrong, over 95% of Su-30 Flankers are based on land and NEVER meant to become navy sea fleet
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:52pm On Dec 23, 2014
FighterPilot:
Agaugau wants to instill fear on to us with just a harmless snorkel. bwahahaha… Well, at least he tried.
I know you are afraid of a Nigerian missile, reason why you keep arguing to escape your fears
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:58pm On Dec 23, 2014
FighterPilot:
The problem is that you are not in the military and you will never know how does a launcher look like from far. launcher and a guide can never be separated. wherever a guide point that where a launcher shall also point.
Your are in the military, an air force officer who says the over 1,000 units of land based Su-27/30 use their super-maneuverability to land on aircraft carrier, as if air force land bases are carried about on navy ships
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:56pm On Dec 23, 2014
FighterPilot:
Snorkels can clearly be folded back to a portable size.
Shape of your snorkel looks very different from the ATGM tube on the Nigerian T-72. Thanks, yours is a snorkel, mine is ATGM.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:47pm On Dec 23, 2014
FighterPilot:
That is clearly not a launcher. A launcher has to be attached firmly on the guide. look at yours, completely separated from a guide.
Prove to me that you are a qualified military vehicles engineer, show me sources, I don't want your bedroom opinion.

I have posted 7 photos.

The MT-LB APC below is carrying a snorkel too right?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:46pm On Dec 23, 2014
FighterPilot:
Snorkels are foldable and can retract just like an antenna.
Your opinion in your bedroom, show me photo of T-72 snorkel being folded and show me an Russian ATGM shape.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:37pm On Dec 23, 2014
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Hey Soweto Mumus, you have been boasting that Nigeria has no T-72 tanks.....

So what is this ? Plastic toy in a supermarket ? tongue tongue

Who are those soldiers playing on a group of T-72 tanks, SANDF ? tongue tongue
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-FseDv_o4

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:33pm On Dec 23, 2014
patches689:
So you literally dont know what the word telescoping means?

lol, remeber kids, this is the guy who brags about his superior Nigerian education
You need to beat my 7 photos, try it and stop posting your mouth opinion, give us pictures to prove how 'short' a snorkel is and how 'long' an ATGM is.....we are waiting !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:25pm On Dec 23, 2014
Patchesagain:
No

That is a telescoping snorkel attached to a stowage bin

No ammount of your protests will prove otherwise -we deal in facts here not opinion
Photos proved you wrong, snorkels are long almost 20 feet, and you admitted it.

ATGMs very short, about 5 feet, and photos proved me right.

Nigeria has it's own customized T-72 version, your problem, not mine !


FighterPilot:
You are a bloody stupiddd, you don't know the difference between snorkel and launcher.
I have posted 7 photos to show what ATGM and snorkels look like in length and size, it's your turn to show us many photos to prove your own case, show us what ATGMs look like so we can see how they are long 20 feet like a snorkel. Insults won't save your azz !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:45am On Dec 23, 2014
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PHOTO 4 : RUSSIAN ATGM AND ITS BOX

PHOTO 5 : NIGERIAN T-72 ATGM AND IT'S BOX

PHOTO 6 : RUSSIAN KORNET ATGM AND IT'S BOX, NOT A WATER SNORKEL !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:24am On Dec 23, 2014
FighterPilot:
Snorkel
You don't know the length and shape of a snorkel tube compared to an ATGM missile launcher.

PHOTO 3 : IS THIS ONE A SNORKEL TOO ?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
patches689:
Snorkel is a telecsopimg tube that is stored horizontally on the rear of the turret, its turned vertical and extened when they want to ford a river

Dont you think it would be a bad idea for tanks to drive around with a 20ft tube sticking into the air?

Its a snorkel

Sorry to burst your bubble
Sorry you actually busted your own bubble.

You just admitted what I said, the snorkel is long, about 20 feet, the ATGM missile tube is less than that length, its only about 5 feet long !

PHOTO 2 : T-72 TANK WITH ATGM CROSSING RIVER, THE TUBE IS NOT USED AS A SNORKEL BECAUSE IT IS A MISSILE LAUNCHER !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
patches689:
No augustus' you clown, read the source, it says that snorkels are stored on the rear stowage binns on the turret. I cant beleive you are still trying to argue with me, when the information is right there infornt of your face. Shows you are delusional

It is a telecsopimg tube that is stored horizontally on the rear of the turret, its turned vertical and extened when they want to ford a river

Dont you think it would be a bad idea for tanks to drive around with a 20ft tube sticking into the air?

Its a snorkel

Sorry to burst your bubble
Sorry you actually busted your own bubble.

You just admitted what I said, the snorkel is long, about 20 feet, the ATGM missile tube is less than that length, its only about 5 feet long !

PHOTO 1 : T-72 TANK WITH SNORKEL IN WATER ERECTED FOR USE
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:40am On Dec 23, 2014
patches689:
With three round natures (APFSDS-T, HEAT-MP, ATGMs) in the autoloader vs four, more antitank rounds would available for the higher rate of fire.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t72tank.htm

ATGM's are launched from the main gun

A telescoping snorkel is stored on the rear of the turret - ready to deploy for fording

Stop wasting our time
There are many modernizations of T-72 tanks in many versions specially configured for modern day customers, you are quoting only the old basic versions of T-72.

Now Russia/East bloc is mounting ATGM on so many different armoured vehicles for in modern times.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:01pm On Dec 22, 2014
FighterPilot:
T-72 does not have an ATGM that has a range of over 4000m.


http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/USSR/soviet_T-72.php
Your above link clearly says T-72 versions of ancient cold war era including the old called communist country called East Germany.

We are talking about modern day 2014 T-72 tanks mister !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:27pm On Dec 22, 2014
FighterPilot:
Snorkel
Let me grab my laptop in 4 hours post images
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