₦airaland Forum

Patchesagain:
Not even worth the time and energy responding to seriously, so here are bullet points

- Denel only used the Italian breech of the gun for development
- Tracks are a hinderance on the African battlefield.
- Unita and the Cubans had amphibious vehicals... we did not... yet we defeated them every time we met in battle
- No "developed from" does not mean that
- Rooikat gun is accurate up to 2km-2km
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product956.html
- I have allready shown that Nigerian armor doesnt stand a chance against the SANDF


The nigerian arsenal is a hodge-podge of half aquired obsolete weapons systems that are nothing more than a logistical nightmare.

NA Cobra, VBL, BTR-3U are more modern than SANDF 1980s Ratels, 1990s Rooikats.

SANDF is a dry land only army 'standardized' to fight only at home on very dry and easy terrain
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Henry120:
It doesn't look like the altitude is very high from the photo you posted.

Thanks for sharing.

If it's designed as surface to surface missile it won't go too high
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Patchesagain:
Show me one that Nigeria has.

Show me any war in hsitroy that nigeria has faced enemy tanks, sam systems, fighter jets etc

We are not interested in ancient wars where 95% of those who fought are dead, retired, kicked out by ANC, or run away to Australia before Zulu revenge slices their throats.

Current war 2014, Nigeria is fighting alone with over 30,000 soldiers, batalions of tanks, APC, IFV, artillery, jet fighters, helicopter gunships, ISTAR aircraft, spy balloons, satellites, automatic grenade launchers, mortars, etc.

Show we where South African military is being tested to that level today 2014.

Your SANDF na photographic wash, your inexperienced HIV consumed army na wash! SANDF has 20 battalions of HIV battered and shattered half-dead soldiers, your military demo photos on Nairaland na wash, just trying to be posh, but SANDF na wash !
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Patchesagain:
Show me one that does.

South Africa does NOT manufactur radar, you import from Europe.

South African local defense industry is 95% European companies' branches on your land.

SA claims of local weapons manufacturing na wash, all na wash, the brains and equipment, technologies and companies behind it all are European white masters ruling your economy 2014.

All na wash, Soweto just trying to be posh ! Proved !
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mzilakazi:
You don't have a lot and by the way tanks cannot make our bodies to shrink.

SADF sank Russian ship fully loaded with weapons which were meant to be transported to Angola. It is not safe to put away weapons to another country since the ocean is too deep to consume all of them.

Is South Africa at war with Nigeria or Ukraine today?

Try sink Ukranian shipload of arms and see how Ukraine will use South Africa for shooting practice, their anger with Russia will be diverted against your country .

Anyway last news on T-84 OPLOT-M tanks about to be shipped from Ukraine to Nigeria was by air, they were parked on the airport grounds.

You are just high on alcoholic koeldrank as usual
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mzilakazi:
Missiles can never be tested any near where people lives. You can never be able to witness missile testing at all.

Quote source to prove that 'Law'
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mzilakazi:
It is not a matter of buying. SA government has mokopa which will be used by SAAF during war. It is not a matter of a choice by some unknown chief or whatever.

Nigeria too has secret missiles at Epe project Island which our government owns and can use in war
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stillchris:
guys, today i witnrssed another missile test around ajah/epe while coming back from church. the darn thing disappeared before i could take out my phone, unlock and launch camera but i was able to snap it's trace.

this is the third time this week and first during a bright afternoon. they normally do this stuff very early in the morning and i get to see it when i go out for jogging before heading to work.

Thanks man !

All parts for the missile published last year are made from 100% locally sourced materials.

Emerging domestic missile industry of Nigeria
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mzilakazi:
SA government has Mokopa. However, your link is just as crushed as your skull. Nigeria has zero weapons in Ukraine

[size=16pt]Nigeria has many T-72 tanks stored in Ukraine. PROVED so you cannot change the FACT.

http://news.rin.ru/eng/news/62731/

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mzilakazi:
SA government has Mokopa. However, your link is just as crushed as your skull. Nigeria has zero weapons in Ukraine while DENEL stock belongs to SANDF by law.

http://www.dpe.gov.za/soc/Pages/Denel.aspx

According to SAAF air chief, Mokopa missile 10km range is too long and therefore useless, so they will NEVER buy it.

Case closed
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DieVluit:
Boko Haram said to seize another town in northern Nigeria



Niamey (AFP) - Islamist extremist group Boko Haram has seized control of a Nigerian town near the Niger border, leading soldiers to flee and adding to its expanding reach in the region, an official said Saturday.

The insurgents were said to have taken control of Malam Fatori in Nigeria's northeastern Borno state after fighting on Wednesday and Thursday, a senior official in the Niger town of Diffa near Nigeria told AFP on condition of anonymity.

The fighting killed dozens and wounded about 30 people in the a commercial hub known for fishing and farming, the Anfani radio station in Diffa reported.

"The town of Malam Fatori was taken by Boko Haram after violent fighting with the Nigerian army overnight Wednesday to Thursday," said the official in Diffa, where thousands of refugees from the conflict have fled to.

According to the official, 315 Nigerian soldiers fled over the border to Diffa. Thirteen who were wounded were treated in a Diffa hospital, while the others have been repatriated.

The official's version of events differed from the one given by a Nigerian senator, who on Thursday spoke of the attack but did not say that the town had been taken.

Senator Maina Maaji Lawan said the insurgents met stiff resistance from soldiers from a multi-national task force in the region that includes troops from Nigeria, Chad and Niger.

Lawan however also said that soldiers were later forced to flee after being overpowered by the insurgents. He said that 21 civilians were killed.

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http://news.yahoo.com/boko-haram-said-seize-another-town-northern-nigeria-184212041.html

Jut shows how dull you are, your above story heavily contradicts itself.

See the lines you bolded, one says Nigerian soldiers flee from Boko Haram then goes again to say the soldiers who fled are multi-national troops from 3 countries armies...Nigeria, Chad and Niger Republic all combined.

So which one do we believe from your fake story ? NONE

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mzilakazi:
REUTECH, proudly South African

http://www.reutech.co.za/

Same way you claim SAAB of Sweden, Thales of Britain, Nissan of Japan, etc are all South African companies

Thief

95% of South African defense industry is European branches opened by your white masters in South Africa.

#Copy Cats
# Thieves
# Barawo Ole Jankoriko
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mzilakazi:
SYSDEL is a SA indigenous company specialising in Electronic Warfare systems.

http://www.sysdel.co.za/

95% of South African defense industry is just European branches of arms manufacturers who opened factory in Soweto Republic
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mzilakazi:
SA acquired technological transfer of radar and EW system in 1939 and now can develop her own.

http://www.csir.co.za/dpss/rew_overview.html

#Show me made in South Africa radar that does not have European company involved in it's prodcution
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mzilakazi:
You see the reason why I call you a fool. Mokopa has long been integrated into Rooivalk tested and fired. It was tested many times on Rooivalk starting from 1999 http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product869.html. It was specially designed for Rooivalk, but now can be launched from different platforms, Fighter jets, Vehicles and Ships or boats.

Do you think Denel is that stuppid? DENEL is committed to give SANDF training of any kind of weapon in their stock.


Nigeria has zero weapon in Ukraine. They are in war as current and very desperate for weapons, yet they cannot get their weapons in Ukraine. That's ironic!!



Funding for air force soars
Date: 1 March 2014
THE SA Air Force has been given a R342 million
boost over three years towards strengthening its
helicopter, transport and maritime capability.
According to Budget documents tabled this week,
the money was shifted from the Special Defence
Account because of “an increase in deployments
and presidential commitments”.
There was also a projected increase in spending
in the force employment programme for border
patrols, anti-piracy
operations and peacekeeping missions.
Defence analyst Helmoed-Romer Heitman said
some of the funds for the helicopter capability
related to the deployment of Rooivalk combat
helicopters to the DRC, where South Africa has
sent troops as part of a UN peacekeeping
mission.
“We’ve gone from having two Oryxes at Goma to
having three Rooivalke and five or six Oryxes.
They burn more fuel to get there, they burn hours,
which uses up consumables, and there’s
maintenance,” Heitman said.
It was also possible the military was finally
acquiring the Mokopa anti-tank missile for the Rooivalk


http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1282/funding-for-air-force-soars

Possible is NOT = Done.

Nigeria too can possibly buy the Akash SAM with 35km range from India as published in world news last year, get it?

Even if intergrated, SAAF has NEVER ordered ANY Mokopa missile, because of lack of funds and the fact I posted, that your then air force chief said the 10km long range is useless because the Rooivalk will not see the target

DENEL engineers are just dumbo domingoes to design a missile that is useless, named Mokopa ATGM.


[size=14pt]SAAF has NO SINGLE Mokopa missile, Rooivalk is a gun carrier [/size]

Nigeria has T-72 tanks stored in Ukraine http://news.rin.ru/eng/news/62731/
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mzilakazi:
built from an AEROSTAR DRONE frame

show source to prove it
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mzilakazi:
Deep in your dreams as usual. The bottom line is your army struggles to defeat a ragtag BH.

Boko Haram is a religious group, and not a conventional war.

Mighty Israel has failed to defeat Hamas religious group.

Mighty America + Britain failed to defeat Taliban in Afghanistan

Nobody can kill peoples's religious faith with a gun and bullet, you kill one, and two will replace him

Your own soldiers can also become religious terrorists and secretly betray your army.

SANDF has never fought a religious group in battle, all we see is photos of training to fight a non-existent enemy.

SANDF = Boys Scout
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mzilakazi:
There is no point arguing with you. DENEL (state owned company) has the responsibility of developing arms for SANDF at a unit price as well as to international community. At peace times SANDF is obligated to pay for every service or weapon acquired from DENEL so that it should sustain its business and continue to pay its employees. During war, SANDF is empowered to use whatever weapon that DENEL has at no fee in order to defend the interest of the country.

SO BEWARE!!!

What DENEL has is what SA has.

You cannot use what you did not integrate, it is a technical issue, Mokopa is NOT integrated on Rooivalk, and SAAF has none in service.

Nigeria too has weapons stored in Ukraine that we can call in anytime
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mzilakazi:
GRINTEK is an indigenous SA company which had always been an expert in electronics. SAAB only bought a stake because they were elated and impressed by what GRINTEK was producing.

Prove it.

Sweden was and is and shall ever be superior to South Africa in technology, they have NOTHING to learn from Grintek, it was you that traveled so Sweden to kneel down and buy their Gripen jets from superior brains in Sweden

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mzilakazi:
Outdated info.

Prove it ! Show us source where Mokopa missile entered service with SAAF

"Mokopa is a heavy, long-range, precision-guided, anti-armour missile. Due to budgetary constraints, the SAAF decided to stop integrating the weapon onto the Rooivalk."

Now read news analysis reports on Mokopa missile from your own trusted South African source Defenceweb :

"It is not clear if the funds are still available and the Rooivalk is currently being operationalised with just its 20mm chin cannon and unguided rockets as armament.

Wessels adds the SAAF is interested in the system for Lynx “but want us to succeed somewhere else first”, as it does not have the cash on hand to pay for the integration costs. This is in line with comments made by SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano on that subject."


South Africa CANNOT afford cash to buy it's own DENEL weapons, SANDF is broke....proved what we have been saying


"On the other hand, SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano saw only limited short-term opportunity for Mokopa with the land services. “Most armies won't use it optimally, he noted. Land-to-land targeting at 5.5km, as with Ingwe, is already a very long range for target acquisition. You cant's see much further in the dust and glare of the battlefield. With Mokopa you go over-the-horison and then your communications and command-and-control has to be very advanced."


The whole 10km long range idea of Mokopa is actually a foolish project idea of Soweto mumus, it cannot work on battlefield, I have always said South African's noise about weapon range like artillery and etc in land battle is foolishness that will fail in battlefield realities, now South African air force chief of staff agrees with Agaugust
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SOURCE : Defenceweb news on Mokopa PGM

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Thiza:
QUESTION SHOW QUALITY ARMAMENTS PRODUCE BY NIGERIA.....G5&6 CARRIES A SOUTH AFRICAN LABEL, ROOIVALK CARRIES A SOUTH AFRICAN MARK AND SHOW NIGERIAN LABEL

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95% of what you guys claim as South African defence industry is actually imported from USA/Europe/Israel/Brazil and given a new South African name when it arrives at your sea port.

Most of your SA defence companies simply signed partnerships with European weapons manufacturers and produce or export their stuff to South Africa under a different product name.

South African defence industry is 419.....Glory thieves....All na wash
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Patchesagain:
OK, so a South African company has ties to european ones... nothing about importing european tech there only tractors and ploughs... do you thinkn data links are composed of data links and ploughs?

Also, in 2013 Swedish company SAAB was invited from Sweden to come and join Reutech and you imported engineers and equipment from Sweden then gave them South African names to steal glory from Sweden.

Citation? Proof?

Now I see you really Butt-Hurt and gasping for breath, sweating like a new yam goat in Abakaliki main market

South Africa does not produce any data-links or radar, I proved that already.

SAAB-Grintek South Africa, well know SAAB is a Swedish company exporting equipment to Grintek Soweto.

Thales, it's a British company we know for years, they opened branch in South Africa to ship defence equipment to you.

Reutech is part of Reunart, and that is American/European company mix, they sent their white engineers in large numbers and equipment into South Africa to open a branch and sell shares of the company to you.

ALL WHAT SOUTH AFRICANS CALL LOCAL DEFENSE INDUSTRY BEST IN AFRICA, IS ACTUALLY SOUTH AFRICAN BRANCHES OF AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN COMPANIES ESTABLISHED IN YOUR COUNTRY WITH WHITE ENGINEERS AND EQUIPMENT IMPORTED FROM USA/EU/ISRAEL.

THERE IS NO NO NO NO SINGLE ORIGINAL SOUTH AFRICAN DEFENSE INDUSTRY, IT'S ALL WASH, ALL NA WASH, FINE-BOY WASH

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Patchesagain:
Rooivalk has the Makopa which is 100% South African.

South African air force has NO Mokopa missile

You are a FRAUDSTER !

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MikeCZAR:
Didn't you read the words "Developed from"?

The Galil ARM was developed from the AK-47, does that make it an Russian weapons? NO!! It is an Israeli rifle.

The T-50 Golden Eagle is developed from the F-16 does that make it an American product? No.

The Saeqeh was developed from the F-5 does that make it an American product? No.


The GT4 76mm is a Denel gun. It was designed during the sanctions era, Italy have nothing to do with it.

The idea for its caliber is influenced by logistics, you wouldn't know that with your un-standardised army would you?

I have been keeping quiet about this 'standardized' army talk for months, but today I will answer you.

Will an army be able to k.ill if they have 5 different types of rifles ? Yes, they just need to put the bullet in the head of SANDF

You cannot standardize an army by restricting types of equipment, you will have an army with many weakpoints.

SANDF is so 'standardized' that your whole nation has no single all terrain tracked APC, no tracked IFV, no tracked tank destroyer, no tracked battle field ambulance, no all terrain tracked light tanks, NO SINGLE ALL TERRAIN TRACKED AIR DEFENCE SYSTEMS AND MISSILE LAUNCHER !!!

Nigeria has all these with our Styer APC, 4K Mortar carrier, Plamaria artillery, MT-LB multirole APC, Storm APC-ATGM launcher, Scorpion tanks, Roland SAMs.

South African army became a dry land only army with major weakness and ZERO ability to fight on all terrains of battlefields, that is standardization? No, that is the weakest army in Africa in all terrain warfare, stuck and helpless sitting duck SANDF in wetland war zone.

Also, South Africa has ZERO amphibious armoured vehicles that can cross rivers and lakes to go out-flank the enemy, Nigeria has has fully amphibious Cobra APC, VBL APC, Sagaie Tank Destroyers, and BTR-3U IFV etc.

What you call South African standardization is actually a proof that South African army is very far far far below Nigerian army standard.

SANDF will be 99% grounded and immobilized in an ALL TERRAIN battle theatre, your military will be wiped out by Nigeria !


Developed from Italian gun means Italy sold the technology wholesale to South Africa, and DENEL changed the colour and the name to fool people that it is South Africa.

The gun is naval, and cannot shoot straight on your Rooikat IFV, show us where Rooikat scored hit in a battle with it's inaccurate gun

Galil is Israeli made rifle, the technology was sold to South Africa wholesale, and to change name as usual and claim it is South African made, you changed the b.utt or stock and the maganize container to plastic and called it R4 rifle South African product, FRAUD !

"The weapon is a licenced variant of the Israeli Galil ARM assault rifle[4][5] with several modifications; notably, both the stock and magazine are now made of a high-strength polymer and the stock was lengthened, adapting the weapon for the average South African soldier."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektor_R4

SA Glory thieves in action !!!

Your defence industry is 95% copied or stolen from overseas
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mzilakazi:
Agubi at his usual dreams again. Nigeria designed weapons can never go past their borders.

We don't have enough for our 200,000 man armed forces, so why should we export?

Nigerian navy shipyard will be exporting both armoured and un-armoured gun boats made in Nigeria, after NNS Andoni II is launched, and Brazil is asking NAF to let then join us and share our Drone technology with them.

Nigeria is the first and only black nation to build drones on planet earth with 100% black brains


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xynyvb1DEo

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osystein:
agaugust / AugustineAgain you've been unbanned from the spambot.

For no just reason I was banned, but some nice guy saw it and released my posts. Thanks to him or her or you. I appreciate it
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DieVluit:
Nigeria does not qualify to be on this thread. They have no military.

[size=16pt] # Show us a war South Africa has fought alone in the last 20 years with over 30,000 soldiers + tanks + artillery + jet fighters + helicopter gunships + ISTAR aircraft + logistics aircraft + armoured vehicles + IFV + all terrain armoured mechanized battalions all in a single war at the same time.

# South Africa has no military except in @THIZA's hollywood photos.

# South African military has not been tested in the capacity of big scale war mentioned above

# AU and UN does not recognize SANDF as a real military force and never allows you to lead any war or fight alone

# All we see is SANDF training photos firing weapons into empty bush and against sand/stones in open land with NO SINGLE ENEMY to reply them

# SANDF = Nigerian Police....SANDF can only point rifles at THIZA's photo camera and video cameramen at home, see photo below

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Patchesagain:
I was casually strolling through the internet when I found pic related.....

Whats that girl's name? Is that LaBella's 3D image? Looks fine, except for the Gripen jet I hate, she should carry me on her back instead of a Gripen....I can climb on her back and do my 'whatever'
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Patchesagain:
Nigeria builds for our jet fighter, air to ground attack rocket pods which South Africa does not

We build some of the most advanced missiles in the world - why would we waste our time with such trivial things?

Nigeria builds spy balloons which South Africa does not

No, you purchased the spy baloons from Isreal
http://allafrica.com/stories/201211060900.html

So that is a lie

Nigeria builds modern stealth warships which South Africa does not

No, Nigeria assembles stealth warships that are built in China... like Lego

So that is a lie

Nigeria builds all terrain tracked APCs which South Africa does not

This is just a lie

Nigeria builds heavy machine guns at DICON

No you dont. You assemble foreign designs.

South Africa on the otherhand has developed and built a 100% indigenous machinegun - the SS7

So that is another lie

Nigeria builds mortar artillery at DICON

So does South Africa, and so do Syrian rebels... this is nothing impressive.

Nigeria builds sniper rifles at DICON

No, you assemble foreign designs.

So this is a lie

Nigeria builds 3 different types of UAV / Drones

No, you build one which is a direct copy of an Isrealy drone

So this is a lie

South African missiles are built with Israeli help because you cannot do it alone
Really? Which one? Makopa? Ingwe? Uhmkonto? A-darter? Raptor 2? Please, show us some proof of your claims.

Until you do, this remains a lie

South Africa does not build datalinks, they import from Europe

Reutech Systems is a South African company and they make LinkZA
http://www.reutechcomms.com/linkza/

So, this is another lie

South Africa deos not build MBTs, Olifant is British made Centurion tank

We never said that we did, but we have domestically upgraded it to the level that it is one of the best in Africa.
2014 and you still are unaware of the Tiger FCS, composit armor, gun-stabilization, enginen et al that we developed for it

Nigeria does not upgrade any of its equipment

South Africa does not build radars, they import from Europe

I will dedicate a post to this childish statement


So Augugbgugu... anymore lies you wish to tell? You petulant troll.

Rocket pod is trivial thing? It is the only powerful weapon on SAAF Rooivalk, the other thing is a mere gun made in France

NAF makes rocket pods, SAAF imports them. There is no defense against NAF rocket pods, they cannot be jammed by ECM.

Abuja spy balloon is for civilian use, and what you posted is different from Nigerian military made spy balloon.

Show me proof that Nigerian army is using the civilian Israeli balloon.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/133308-nigerian-army-announces-hi-tech-device-to-tackle-boko-haram.html

We built Amebo I drone, Amebo II drone, Amebo III drone, Gulma drone, Icheokwu mini drone....ALL PROUDLY NIGERIAN, show me where Israel claims to be involved, show me proof of your false claims.

Stealth OPV, China have given Nigeria full technology transfer, we can build it anytime we want, according to Janes Defence info..

"F 91 was launched by state-owned shipbuilder China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Co (CSOC) in January 2014, and was taken for sea trials by affiliated shipyard Wuchang Shipbuilding Industry. The second OPV, F 92, is being built by CSOC in China but will be outfitted at the naval shipyard in Port Harcourt, Nigeria, in a technology transfer arrangement."

http://www.janes.com/article/45252/china-completes-sea-trials-for-nigerian-opv


Your other claims also affects South Africa.

You don't produce your main assault rifle R4, you paid Israel to give you licence to copy Israeli Galil rifle and give it a new name

Same way Browning heavy machine gun and mortar artillery are produced under licence by DICON Nigeria.

Both of us are in the same boat

Olifant tank forever remains British product, South Africa only upgraded it, same way Nigeria also upgraded British Scorpion tanks with new armour, new engine, and new 90mm gun.

South Africa is in very same boat with Nigeria.

South Africa does not make data-links, your Reutech company is another of your import agents that imports European products and gives them South African names. Reutech is amalgamated with Ruenert.

"During the first part of the twentieth century Reunert and Lenz continued as agents for international firms such as Babcock & Wilcox, Bellis & Morcom, ASEA of Sweden and the North British Railway Company. Products included almost every aspect of engineering from ploughs and steamrollers to locomotives, tugboats and trams. By the mid '50s, Reunert & Lenz had supplied over 2 500 mainline locomotives from North British to the SAR.

In 1914 the company converted to a private limited liability company known as Reunert & Lenz Limited. The Great Depression of 1929 hit the company hard but Reunert & Lenz survived thanks to their sole agency for Babcock and Wilcox Ltd boilers. Power stations continued to need equipment and spares when all other business was halted.

In 1997, major disposals include the mechanical engineering division Reumech OMC that was sold to Vickers and the 50% stake in Alstom which was sold to its parent company Alstom France.

A decision in the 60s had brought overseas associates into South Africa to operate jointly controlled companies with Reunert & Lenz on the basis of 50-50 partnerships. Five such "company marriages" were made with European companies ."

http://www.reunert.com/about-history.php

Also, in 2013 Swedish company SAAB was invited from Sweden to come and join Reutech and you imported engineers and equipment from Sweden then gave them South African names to steal glory from Sweden.

South Africans are glory thieves from birth.


Your South African data-links company is an agent of American and European exporters who ship parts to you, and send you engineers to do project design and implementation, imported white brains and white technology imports.

South African data-link is imported and given a new name at the sea port on arrival. PROVED

[size=16pt] It took only 10 minutes to shipwreck your error and fraud loaded arguments [/size]

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mzilakazi:
List of countries which have avionics producing capability.


http://www.ultralightmarket.com/results.asp?view=Land&Land=42

Show me aircraft made in South Africa, not light planes that you assembles, Nigeria too assembled light plane Air Beetle.

Rooivalk is 90% French made, only the body metal welded and tyres added in South Africa, vital components came from Europe and they have refused to sell more to you, such that you CANNOT make anymore Rooivalk helicopter, white-men still rule South Africa from Europe, and the rocket pods are imported, ALL Rooivalk weapons are improted, and the only gun on the Rooivalk is French made GIAT cannon imported by DENEL, your Rooivalk's destiny is controlled by France.

Show us a real military aircraft made in South Africa, all you did was assemble Hawk jet with pieces and parts imported from Britain.

AHRLAC is a backyard toy anybody can build at home, proved already.

If assembly of aircraft means South Africa builds light planes, Nigeria too does it very well
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mzilakazi:
Lies!! Lies!! Lies!! Don't you feel shame to yourself for telling all these lies.

You are a newcomer this thread/forum.

I have posted proof of all my claims since 2012 till 2014

Prove me wrong with sources if you can....

or else just shutt upp
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patches689:
Nigeria does not build any missiles

Nigeria does not build any artillery

Nigeria does not build AFV's
Nigeria does not build MBTs
Nigeria does not build radio sets
Nigeria does not build advanced drone systems
Nigeria does not build radar systems
Nigeria does not build attack helicopters
Nigeria does not build mine clearance devices
Nigeria does not build MGLs
Nigeria does not build AGLs
Nigeria does not build machine guns
Nigeria does not built sniper rifles
Nigeria did not build anti-material rifles
Nigeria does not build data-links

Nigerian military industrial complex is on the same level as the Syrian and Kurdish Rebels

Nigeria builds for our jet fighter, air to ground attack rocket pods which South Africa does not
Nigeria builds bomb disposal robots which South Africa does not

http://allafrica.com/stories/201307231128.html

Nigeria builds spy balloons which South Africa does not
Nigeria builds modern stealth warships which South Africa does not
Nigeria builds all terrain tracked APCs which South Africa does not
Nigeria builds heavy machine guns at DICON
Nigeria builds mortar artillery at DICON
Nigeria builds sniper rifles at DICON
Nigeria builds 3 different types of UAV / Drones

South African missiles are built with Israeli help because you cannot do it alone
South Africa does not build datalinks, they import from Europe
South Africa deos not build MBTs, Olifant is British made Centurion tank
South Africa does not build radars, they import from Europe

The best defense industry in Africa is that of Egypt, they build jet fighter engines, main battle tanks, ballistic missiles, etc.

South African defence industry is comparable to that of Hamaz terrorist rocket makers in Gaza Palestine
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