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patches689: But you said there were 100 casualties inflicted BY poachers

So now show us the 100

6 =\= 100

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Enjoy it, it's your own South African news report . Mugu Maga !

"There’s a war going on in southern Africa. And though it may not have the human body count of, say, Sudan, this battle is just as bloody. In 2012, rhino poaching in South Africa left more than 650 rhinos illegally slaughtered– approximately one every 16 hours– and more than 100 humans died in the fight to protect them."

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/

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Msauza: That was just a mere accidental crash just like your army now and then have their taste.

No proof of cause of crash, the SAAF Helicopter could have been shot down by Rhino hunters when it flew low level to search for them. The Augusta 109 Helicopter had NO armour protection and ZERO self defence.

CraigB: Since when do forumites send others to do their own google searches when confronted with a demand for proof? I know! It's when the proof cannot be produced!
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Sharaaaap ! Mumu, what proof can I not produce? I said it has been repeated enough on this thread, and a South African just repeated it above, just before your foolish comment.

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Msauza: http://globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/africa/south-africa/130331/south-africa-helicopter-crash-kills-5-kruger-national-park

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CraigB: You are yet to post a link showing that.

What we know for certain is that you find it fitting to compare Naai-gerians to South African animals.

And while you're at it, you're happy to confirm that South African soldiers die on duty.

We know that Naa-gerian soldiers flee, to die another day in retirement.

That SAAF helicopter crash in Kruger park is a very widespread story you can get full details in 5 seconds google search, posted sources here many times and everybody saw it, 5 South African air force officers died chasing Rhino thieves.

I am not happy anybody died, I had to post it because you deceitful South Africans keep denying the fact that 100 security forces personnel died fighting Rhino hunters, even when the sources from inside your own country was posted here to prove it, you guys kept denying.

Am not happy anyone died, it is you South Africans that are heartless inhuman sadists rejoicing on this forum in support of Boko Haram murdering innocent civilians in acts of Islamic terrorism that the whole world is sad and condemning.

Show me where any South African condemned Boko Haram on this thread.

Nation of sadists, inhuman Southies
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CraigB: The naai-gerian soldiers that fled for their lives will not die on duty. They will never face an honourable death. They will die old and comfortable like the cowards they are.

South African military being killed by animal thieves, what would happen to them if they fight another country when thieves can defeat them. You no dey think?

Centrifude: hey smarta** it doesn't say how the soldier died, and like it says on the article the C.O didn't give out any details about the soldiers death, the story is half baked just like most of your evidence

He died on duty against Rhino thieves. Another 5 died in helicopter crash on duty against Rhino thieves probably shot down by Poachers. Too many people die in South Africa daily, so you don't care to count any more. Murder capital of the world ANC slaughter house
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Centrifude: THAT SLOWPOKE CAN'T EVEN PROVIDE A SINGLE LEGITIMATE LINK THAT SAYS SANDF SOLDIERS WERE PART OF THE PEOPLE KILLED THERE

No , you are the SLOWPOKE that is not intelligent enough to do a simple google search about your own bullshiit country.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Soldier-killed-in-Kruger-National-Park-20130819

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Centrifude: :[ hmm!!.. as usual his sh*tty links don't work

My link works perfect..

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/

Only you complained, other people opened the weblink, your laptop is old. Now go throw your sh*tty laptop into river Zambezi
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patches689: It has cost no where near 100 lives

Please provide citations

My pleasure

"There’s a war going on in southern Africa. And though it may not have the human body count of, say, Sudan, this battle is just as bloody. In 2012, rhino poaching in South Africa left more than 650 rhinos illegally slaughtered– approximately one every 16 hours– and more than 100 humans died in the fight to protect them."

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/


Now stop wasting my time, I have proved ALL points with citations.

1. American soldiers fighting Rhino poachers on South African soil, real operation, NOT any Tv drama, we are not fools here.

2. The American commandos include both retired and currently serving soldiers.

3. Area of operation includes Kruger National park.

4. 100 South African security forces including air force officers have been k.illed in the Rhino war and this defeat made South Africa invite American soldiers to save SANDF and the whole country from further disgrace.

5. 100 South African rangers and SANDF soldiers have died in the Rhino war.

6. South African military is defeated by local animal hunters and thieves inside South Africa's homeland !

Now stop ranting, we don't care who brought the Yankee soldiers in, no private person can bring in armed American soldiers into South African territory to be s.hooting and killing criminals without government approval, or those men came in without entry VISA ? Then South Africa becomes a failed state

CASE CLOSED.
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Msauza: We are talking humans and you wont cease talking animals which you have never seen in your life since yours have all gone down to a pot of soup.

100 human beings all members of the South African security forces including air force officers have been k.illed in your Kruger Park Rhino war, fighting ordinary bushmen hunters, even Seleka rebels did not k.ill that much before SANDF ran away to hide under the armpits of French soldiers, now you begged American soldiers to come save your black azzes, you are never free from white-men's colonization.
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patches689: Game Reserves United (GRU) is an alliance of private game reserves on the western borderof the Kruger National Park (KNP).
http://www.helpingrhinos.org/how-we-help/game-reserves-united/

[size=10pt]As I said, private individuals operating on private land in private capacity- and not called in by SANParks or the SANDF

VOA & Reuters News confirm American Soldiers Helping South Africa


Both private and National parks are invaded by the American soldiers, they are working with SANDF.....Fact !!

South African elite special task forces too have been travelling to America for training since 2010...


"In 2010 top officers of the unit were sent to the United States to brush up on their crisis response skills"

http://www.skillsportal.co.za/page/education/779307-Top-SAPS-officers-on-special-training-in-US#.VAaS0MJdUvY


Fvck yourself as much as you like, it is NOT drama, it is real, and filmed on TV to campaign against Rhino Poaching worldwide.

"The military has been deployed elsewhere in South Africa to tackle the rhino poaching problem, such as in the Israel-sized Kruger National Park, where former special-forces soldiers have also joined the ranks of park rangers."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/11/us-africa-rhinos-poaching-idUSBRE9AA0VH20131111

That is news according to Reuters International, it's no drama ! Special Forces from America are helping the failed South African army and rangers to fight Rhino hunters

The American soldiers are a mix of both retired and currently serving special forces, and they will train South African security forces on bush tactics of which you falsely claim to be 'masters', do soldiers train people for fun? No drama, South Africa is getting help for real.
You CANNOT deceive us here !!!

"Four current and former members of the U.S. Special Ops (Navy SEALs and a Green Beret) have been recruited and brought in to help the security forces. Together, they will survey the situation, train the anti-poaching corps, exchange tactical information and go on the front lines to help defeat these ruthless criminals before the rhinos are brought to total extinction. These "soldiers of extinction" are led by Craig "Saw," team leader, Navy SEAL (fmr.), and includes Jeff "Biggs," sniper, Navy SEAL (fmr.); Rob, intel, Navy SEAL (ret.); and "Oz," medic, Green Beret."

http://press.discovery.com/us/apl/press-releases/2013/us-special-forces-are-south-africas-latest-we-2278/

Then stop lying that they are all retired, currently serving soldiers are among them.

Nation of ANC and it's SANDF mugus are getting schooled by Americans

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FighterPilot: WE ARE ARGUING REAL THINGS AND YOU ARE ARGUING DRAMA. POACHERS HAVE NEVER KILLED EVEN A SINGLE SOLDIER IN THEIR LIVES.

NOT EVEN OVER 100 ANTI-POACHING UNIT(CIVILIANS) WERE EVER KILLED BY POACHERS.

PROPAGANDA WILL NOT SCORE YOU ANY EASY POINTS. WELL WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR FRUSTRATION IS WHAT DRIVES YOU TO THROW JUST EVERYTHING IN TO LEVEL THE SCORE. BEAR WITH ME IT WONT HELP TO HOLD ON TO ISSUE OF JUST FOUR RETIRED NAVY SEALS WHO LEFT AMERICA VOLUNTARILY TO SHOOT A SHOW ON A PRI ATELY OWNED GAME RANGE WHICH WAS LATER TELEVISED TO THE PUBLIC. THE QUARTET ARE LONG GONE BACK TO THE US AND HAVE EVEN FORGOT ABOUT THEIR TRIP WHICH @ AGAUGUST IS STILL HOLDING ON TO CONSOLE HIMSELF.

IT WONT HELP BECAUSE YOUR STATEMENT IS UNFOUNDED.

It's NOT a Tv drama dude, LOL, It's a real anti-poaching operation for which American commandos both retired ones and currently serving soldiers were begged by South Africa on her two knees to come and save SANDF from the hand of ordinary bushmen Rhino hunters


It is only being shown on TV to help in public campaign against Rhino poaching, but the TV show humiliates the spineless and inexperienced South African military....



"The world renowned Greater Kruger area of South Africa, just north of Johannesburg, is the new ground zero in a war to protect magnificent creatures on the edge of extinction. Rhinoceroses are being hunted to death by poachers who will stop at nothing to kill them just to take their horns. The death toll is astonishing; each year, nearly 700 rhinos are killed with baby rhinos and calves separated from their mothers and left to fend on their own. The human toll too is steep. More than 100 park rangers have been killed by these poachers in the battle to halt these criminals. The situation is worsening. Park rangers and security forces are desperate for help. And now four U.S. Special Forces veterans have come to help fight for the rhinos.

Four current and former members of the U.S. Special Ops (Navy SEALs and a Green Beret) have been recruited and brought in to help the South African security forces. "


http://press.discovery.com/us/apl/press-releases/2013/us-special-forces-are-south-africas-latest-we-2278/


PHOTO : AMERICAN COMMANDOES IN KRUGER NATIONAL PARK TO HELP THE DEFEATED SANDF SPECIAL FORCES

4 American Soldiers = South African army battalion 21 + Special Forces .

patches689: The Cubans and Angolan tracked vehicals got violated by our dry land only army

Boko haram violates your army with dry land only Toyotas

I don't think it will be a problem

Boko Haram is paying a heavy price....in Hell
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patches689: We have JDAMs

We have prepared for that scenario

Lol

Preparations for war by blowing up Mandela's trees and stones in an empty bush

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patches689: Battle experience is irrelevant if you train properly

Tell that to the Israelis

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patches689: I know that- so now I am wondering:
what are you even saying?

Does the gun in the pic look like a 20mm?

No it doesn't does does it

Yes it does, you are NO master of firearms, it's a bigger world than you think in your Gauteng prison cell.

Here is a 30mm, not even 20mm, a modern day 30mm AGL with a barrel as small as that one on the Cobra, and loaded by a box of ammo fully automatic, not one by one manual loading hand to barrel like an ordinary AK-47 rifle grenade launcher.

Mumu

http://zid.ru/eng/products/47/detail/228

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Big shame on every South African on this forum.

I wonder how your jobless SANDF gets it's own battle experience without fighting any real big and long sustained war

Nigerian army finally wins the battle of Bama...

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/bama-not-captured-by-boko-haram-says-borno-deputy-governor/188010/

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Centrifude: It was very easy to say that S.A.A.F was wasting ammo and bragging about dropping bombs on dummy targets during exercises. I bet Augbu and his friends are swallowing their own words, because now you see the importance of pilots taking part in extensive exercises and getting comfortable with using their weapons. PIC1: Bomb dropped by Gripen. PIC2: Rockets fired from a Rooivalk

How easy will it be for your pilots to bomb and rocket if the enemy was inside Soweto townships mixed with civilians? Show me photos of where your SAAF practiced for that scenario.

Inexperienced mofos, bombing open lands and empty bush
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FighterPilot: PEOPLE THERE IS A HELL GOING ON IN NIGERIA. THEIR MILITARY IS FRAGMENTED INTO PIECES. ONE THING COMES ON MY MIND THAT NIGERIA COULD POSSIBLY HAVE LOST LARGE NUMBER OF THEIR SPECIAL FORCES WHO WERE NOT EVEN WELL EXPERIENCED IN COMBAT.

NIGERIA HAS ALSO LARGE NUMBER OF UNEXPERIENCED COMBAT PILOTS WHO NEED TO BE TRAINED EXTENSIVELY.

THE EXERCISES THAT WE ARE ALWAYS DOING IN LOHATLHA BATTLE SCHOOL THAT @AGAUGUST IS ALWAYS CHANTING THAT WE ARE ALWAYS SHOOTING AT AN OPEN FIELD IS VERY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY TO THE AIRFORCE. IT HELPS THE PILOTS TO PRACTISE THEIR SKILLS WELL AND TO KNOW WHERE THEY SHOULD ALWAYS BE IN RELATION TO THE FRIENDLY FORCES ON THE GROUND.

NOW, SOME STUPIDD NIGERIAN PILOTS OUT OF FEAR OF BEING HIT BY ANTI- AIR SHELLS, HAVE MISTAKENLY BLEW OUT THEIR OWN BASE AND KILLED FRIENDLY FORCES IN MULTIPLE OCCASSIONS.

IT IS UNFORTUNATE NIGERIA DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME FACILITY AS THAT OF SA. BEAR WIT ME, IT WOULDN'T HELP EVEN IF NAF CAN ACQUIRE 100 4TH GENERATION FIGHTERS NOW. THE QUESTION WILL BE WHO IS GOING TO FLY THOSE MACHINES? IT TAKES OVER 3YEARS TO LEARN HOW TO FLY THE NEW GENERATION FIGHTERS AND EVEN AFTER THAT YOU WILL REMAIN UNQUALIFIED TO BE DEPLOYED TO WAR ZONE.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT A FIGHTER PILOT SHOULD LEARN HOW TO MANEUVER AND TAKE COUNTER MEASURES, BUT THAT TAKES TIME AND COULD ONLY BE LEARNED WHEN A PILOT IS FULLY QUALIFIED TO CAN JUST FLY A FIGHTER. MORE OR LESS IT WOULD TAKE THEM 7-8 YEARS ON AGGREGATE TO ACHIEVE ALL THAT.

PEOPLE AGAIN NOWADAYS IT IS NOT EASY TO ACQUIRE MERCENARY PILOTS LIKE IT WAS IN THE PAST. WELL, AFTER ALL LET ME JUST TAKE A TACTICAL MANEUVER.

[size=14pt] Read this and spread the good news, mister false prophet...

http://www.osundefender.org/?p=184727&cpage=1
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MikeZA: The fall of Bama,means the terrorists have captured more weapons. mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0GX0R120140902?irpc=932

[size=14pt]Sorry to disappoint you, mister rumour monger...

http://www.osundefender.org/?p=184727&cpage=1
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patches689: i just noticed that the cobra is stuck in the mud....

That's how 99% of South African army will be stuck and immobilized in such a war zone, only your 250 Olifant tanks will move.

Nigerian army will move 1,000 tanks, APCs, and heavy artillery successfully through that terrain.

SANF is a dry land only army
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patches689: I said that the GL you listed is loaded like that:

Starting in 1942, remaining PzB 39 rifles were rebuilt with a shortened barrel (590 mm) and an affixed Schiessbecher ("firing cup" attachment threaded to the barrel and used to launch standard rifle grenades.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerb%C3%BCchse_39#PzB_38

The bore is too small for it to be any other type of GL

And the fact that its loaded like that KILLS your argument

Clown

Grenade launcher caliber varies from 20mm to 40mm, the barrel of some will be half the size of others.

Comedian

patches689: Augubgugug... here is a list of all known AGL's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_automatic_grenade_launchers

Please show us which one is mounted on the Cobra

Show us the Wikipedia list of ALL the MGLs in this world including the Nigerian MGL I posted, then I will agree that you have a complete list of grenade launchers existing today all over the world...mister 'know it all'
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patches689: The grenade launcher you tried to say it is, is bolt action.

But it does not look like the grenade launcher... so I would guess its an HMG

How barrel load it while behind a sheild? You dont!! Because its not a grenade launcher!!!

And you say its an AGL... PROVE IT!! Show us the model!! Show us the make!!

You show us the make of the Nigerian MGL I posted.

I could post a Milkor MGL and use it to prove the Nigerian MGL is also a MGL, does that mean I know the name of the Nigerian version? Nope.

You are the daftie who said the AGL will be loaded like rifle grenade launcher...you daft, you just proved your ignorance about grenade launchers systems, no need arguing with you on a topic you proved yourself ignorant about.

patches689: Nope you posted a picture of a BOLT-ACTION grenade launcher - which works in the same way as a rifle-grenade and then tried to claim that it was an AGL. And you implied it was the AGL in question.

If there are so many designs that look like that... why is the only example of one that you can find from WW2?

Thats an HMG on the Cobra, finished and klar

And if you dont know the name of the Cobra AGL... how do you even know its an AGL?

Dude, you are a liar and a propagandist, everything you post on this forum is utter B.S

Poooooh, confused mugu, you just said above that it is a bolt action grenade launcher, then again you say its a HMG, so which one?

How barrel load an AGL that is behind an armour shield like a rifle you carry by hand? Does your b.rain work? No !

Entertain yourself with your laptop, I don't care what you say, that is an AGL you don't know it's design, and you are NOT a master of worldwide firearms. Your ignorance, not mine.

ALL you post on this forum is bull.shiit

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Thiza: NOT A MARATHON ARMY OR A SPRINTER ARMY BUT A PROFESSIONAL ARMY

Your SANDF 'professional army' that cried to American commandos for help to fight ordinary Rhino Poaching bushmen hunters

How will SANDF fight Boko Haram that has anti-aircraft guns and many battalions of men ?

Now we know SANDF ran away from Seleka true true, or else you k.illed 1,000 Seleka but you cannot defeat bush Rhino hunters



[size=14pt] Over 100 South African Military And Para-Military K.illed In Rhino War

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"There’s a war going on in southern Africa. And though it may not have the human body count of, say, Sudan, this battle is just as bloody. In 2012, rhino poaching in South Africa left more than 650 rhinos illegally slaughtered– approximately one every 16 hours– and more than 100 humans died in the fight to protect them."

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/


PHOTO : AMERICAN COMMANDOS IN SOUTH AFRICA TO SAVE BOTH RHINOS AND SANDF SOLDIERS FROM BUSH MERE HUNTERS !


https://i2.cdn.turner.com/dr/hln/www/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/gallery_780x583/2013/03/07/31630_076.jpg

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patches689: You said it was a German MGL - it's not?

Quote where I said that, my posts are not hidden. I showed you a style or design of AGL different from what you know. I showed you a picture to prove there are AGL's with that type of slim design, not all are bogus big like a Y-3 AGL, there are ve many AGL designs in this world you have never seen.

I don't even know the name of the Cobra AGL.

The German and Nigerian AGL have different carrier handles and ammo boxes. One is old, the other is modern. Simple common sense.

You can also say the Nigerian OBJ 006 rifle made in 2010 was part of the original AK-47 left over from 1946 manufacture.

When you being shown what you don't know, take it and learn or remain ignorant, your choice
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Henry240: Oh yes you fled. Your troops were roundly defeated and you ran away.

"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SA-soldiers-in-CAR-retreat-to-barracks-want-out-20130324


You ran away.

He ran away, he thought you were Seleka
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Henry240: So now, quantity doesn't matter? LOL


I got banned making that comparism. Fact remains, the MI-35M is a better attack helicopter than the rooivalk.

You will get banned for posting certain websites of Mi-35M Hind E data and sources, I have been banned for it many times this year.

Reason why I sometimes just use screen shots

patches689: So now it's a different gun? It's not the gun you posted?

Get your story straight. You just got busted infornt of the whole forum

Busted for what? for posting a similar AGL design that you don't know exists?

The Ammo Box for the Nigerian Cobra AGL is clearly seen as much bigger than the old German AGL. This world is full of too many types of hard to identify/name infantry weapons flooding the market.

There are many Nigerian army equipment we see but we don't know the exact name because the army never published it, we see MGLs in use that we don't know the name or origin, try name the MGL below with a source...
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patches689: Production ended in 1941. There is no such thing as a "new" version

It's a museum piece!!

And the weapon on the cobra is not a grenade launcher - look at the lack of muzzle break. It's a HMG

Do you need a towel for all that egg on your face?

Nope, not the same carrying handle, it's a different gun from a different source. Likely eastern origin.

I was just showing you a type of AGL design you do not know exists, your knwoledge base is limited to South Africa
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