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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:44pm On Sep 07, 2014
patches689: It's blatantly a shilka in both pictures with the turret moved at different angles
Bwahahahah grin grin

Now you have finally k.illed your own argument !

See, I have turned a Shilka to exactly the same sideways angle.

What you get is, the same, turret head still smaller than body hull, NOT extended so much bigger like in the fake shilka !

Next thing is when you turn a shilka sideways, then all the FOUR GUNS stick out clearly from the rest of the vehicle and you see them all !

Then notice the height is very different, the fake shilka is too tall, the height is double the width, see the real shilka, the height and with are the same to give it balance !

Now that Boko 'thing' is NOT a Shilka, it is an unknown type of armoured vehicle likely imported from Sudan where you find all kind of hybrid and strange armoured vehicles in the hands of Sudanese Islamists.

You lose again dude, you lose....show us the FOUR GUNS of your fake shilka !!! grin grin

PHOTO I : FAKE BOKO SHILKA WITH TURRET MOVED AT ANGLE, HEAD BIGGER THAN BODY AND NO FOUR BARREL GUNS !

PHOTO 2 : ORIGINAL SHILKA WITH TURRET MOVED AT ANGLE, HEAD SMALLER THAN BODY AND SHOWS ALL FOUR BARREL GUNS !

FINAL PROOF....THERE IS NO OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THE HEAD/TURRET AND THE BODY/HULL OF A REAL SHILKA !

THE FAKE BOKO SHILKA PHOTO 1 HAS OPEN VISIBLE SPACE BETWEEN THE HEAD AND BODY, THE ORIGINAL AND TRUE SHILKA HAS NO SPACE AT ALL BETWEEN THE HEAD AND BODY, IT IS PERFECTLY CLOSED AND SEALED TIGHT !


You see why I told @Centrifude that our Nigerian brains are superior in intelligence over all South African brains ? Boko Haram illiterates can fool South Africans, but fail to fool Nigerians grin grin

CASE CLOSED !


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:10am On Sep 07, 2014
Centrifude: Your comment shows how st*pid and narrow minded you are, being Nigerian doesn't make you smarter than anyone else, you've got the reasoning of a 3year old child.
You do envy us don't you? Yes you do !

Nigerians are the most intelligent Africans, while South African are the second dullest brains in the whole world grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Centrifude: Yeah and at the cost of how many civilians and Soldiers pssh!.
If it were in South Africa that thousands of militants mixed with civilians inside houses, how will your military fight them and no civilian will die ?

Now you are the one with the reasoning of a 3 year old kid who thinks real war is the same as Hollywood in @THIZA's nairaland photos grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:21am On Sep 07, 2014
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[size=16pt]Nigerian Army Wins Bama As Boko Haram Runs Away Defeated !

Sunday September 7, 2014.

Now we know who are the real run away soldiers.....It is Boko Haram !

Shame on you all South Africans, you share in Boko Haram's defeat tongue tongue tongue

NAF F-7 Jets devastated Boko Haram !

SANDF Gripen jets still sleeping at home for 10 years tongue tongue tongue

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http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/after-intensive-aerial-bombardment-boko-haram-retreats-from-bama/188431/

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:17am On Sep 07, 2014
Centrifude: and how do you know all of this? :/
I am a Nigeria, I am NOT a fool. I have finished my research. I have my facts. I may decide to spill the beans in 48 hours !
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PoliticsRe: Nigerian Army's Campaign In The North Eastern Theatre (Photos) by agaugust: 9:03am On Sep 07, 2014
KnowAll: Siriublack u are fake. Show us pictures of 1200 Bh that DHQ claimed to have killed. And if it is even true, How come a depleted BH that has just suffered d loss of 1200 men could muster more men and overun another town in adamawa state while still holding to bama, gwoza and other towns in borno state.
Whoever you are, be very careful and avoid the wrath of God coming down on Nigeria's enemies, people are praying. Be warned !

[size=16pt]Nigerian army wins Bama as Boko Haram withdraws in defeat

Sunday September 7, 2014.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/after-intensive-aerial-bombardment-boko-haram-retreats-from-bama/188431/ [/size]

PHOTO : NAF F-7 JET...PART OF THE VICTORY IN BAMA
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:43am On Sep 07, 2014
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Mi-35 Hind E beats Rooivalk, now proved.
Nigerian army AGLs beat those of SANDF now proved
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:35am On Sep 07, 2014
patches689: And how do you explain the captured barracks vehicals and shilka?
Simple common sense for those who have it.

Me, I won't just swallow any report from an Islamic Jihadist who thinks he is wiser that the whole of America.

Nigerian army barracks in Gwoza? No, we don't have any barracks built on a hill. Nigerian army barracks are bigger than that ! The name, signs and colours of the army will also be bold and clear everywhere !

Gwoza battle, nobody knows the truth yet, maybe the Nigerian garrison retreated or Boko Haram got their first and resisted the Nigerian invasion, NONE of us was there, and NO SINGLE journalist was there, and the BBC does not have an office there, or else all their staff would have been b.eheaded by now.

Toyota's on display, we don't know where they moved them from, boxes of ammo, yes Boko Haram has it's own ammo too , or how do they fight for 4 years without large boxes of ammo in store?

Whose ammo that is , we don't know. There are no markings of Nigerian army anywhere or on any item, and no markings of shipment or factory codes, smart people know what officially procured ammo boxes look like.

That was NOT a Shilka, I proved you wrong, Shilka turret is smaller than the hull, the one in that video is the exact opposite.

Being intelligent enough to scrutinize evidence and prove people's claims is only for the wise, those who don't have the intellect will swallow lectures notes from an illiterate mallam who says 3 Nigerian soldiers alone are an army retreating upwards to hilltop top get trapped there, the way to run out of Gwoza is down hill into other parts of Borno state !

I AM PROVING YOU WRONG WITH YOUR OWN PHOTOS....https://www.nairaland.com/patches689/posts/7

PHOTO 1 : FAKE BOKO HARAM SHILKA, VEHICLE HEAD IS BIGGER THAN VEHICLE BODY

PHOTO 2 : REAL NIGERIAN AND WORLD STANDARD GENUINE SHILKA, VEHICLE HEAD IS SMALLER THAN VEHICLE BODY


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:28am On Sep 07, 2014
Aljerouw: I myself was training US soldiers at the end of last year in the Eastern Cape.What is that August yob talking about. .LMAO!!!
Which war experience do you have to make you train American soldiers whose army fought the world's biggest wars in Korea, Vietnam Jungle, Somalia, Iraq, and Afghanistan ?

SANDF cannot even train South African rangers to catch Rhino thieves, now you want to train American soldiers....Pretoria Mumu grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Thiza: @AUGUSTUS U CLAIM THAT UR ARMY KILLED NEARLY 1 500 BH BOYS...THIS IS A RESULT OF BH BOYS STANDING AND TAKING THE FIGHT TO THE NIGERIAN MILITARY UNLIKEE THE ARMY THAT HAS TAKEN SERIOUS THE ART OF TACTICAL RETREAT SEE THE VIDEO

http://www.theparadigmng.com/?p=21776
Bwhahaha grin grin

Video of Nigerian army running into Cameroon? Hollywood drama from Boko Haram propaganda movie production department grin grin

Watch the fake video and observe these :

1. Nigerian army running, we see only 3 soldiers, is that an army?

2. Two of the three soldiers have no helmets on their heads, LOL....those are typical Boko Haram men running

3. Boko Haram shooting at the 3 men but all the bullets are just hitting the rocks, LOL, Boko not wanting to k.ill it's own men drama actors

4. Towards end of the full video shown here last month, we see the same guy with same uniform and no helmet after his running drama acting, he goes back to join his fellow Bokos in another fake act of looting the armoury of weapons boxes.....same guy !

5. Boko Haram with vehicles cannot catch up speed with 'Nigerian soldiers' running with legs....LOL !

6. Two of the three men were walking and NOT running, so when enemy if firing machine gun at your back, you just walk away like a bullet proof human being ? LOL !

7. Running to Cameroon, the video is Gwoza...running with legs to another country 40 km away across rough terrain ? Are those men horses?

8. Those 3 men are actually climbing up the hill instead of going down to escape, running up to the hill they will be trapped at the top and k.illed by Boko Haram, they were actually running in the WRONG direction....LOL....LOZ . LOLLY LOLZZZ !!!!

[size=14pt]I I conclude with this fake video drama, that Boko Haram and 50 million South Africans have the same low level of intelligence, they cannot even write a sensible script and act their propaganda drama like men with a brain grin grin[/size]

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:29pm On Sep 06, 2014
Thiza: @AUGUSTUS atleast you acknowledge that you are Third world banana republic....with no constant electricity, water,railway, constant trains with reliable trains....these Free Trade Zones you boost about are just a dot in comparison with South Africa....since you have started the topic I shall b sending you what South Africa has achived in Coeaga Ffree Trade zone, Port of Dube etc......NOTHING NIGERIA CAN DO TO PLAN BETTER THAN SOUTH AFRICA
I said both you and us are third world, or you have only one eye to read?

I won't go on with photos of cities because it will derail this thread, a little once in a while is not bad, but I won't go too far.

I have posted enough. You can send your city view photos here...

https://www.nairaland.com/897396/where-south-africa-without-white/145

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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust:
Fynline: Oga Henry kindly ID the weapon in the last photo pls.
Oga Fynline, first clear and indisputable photo of a Nigerian army AGL ! Thank you sir !

I hope we got them in large numbers, every platoon of 40 soldiers in NE war zone should have one in the field, and every base should have four on guard around the perimeter to take out approaching Boko Haram vehicles from 2km away, and we need electro-optical sights.

Nigerian needs at least 1,000 units of the Automatic Grenade Launcher for anti-Boko Haram war !

[size=14pt]NORINCO LG3 Automatic Grenade Launcher Has Entered Nigerian Army Service ![/size]

http://world.guns.ru/grenade/ch/lg3-e.html

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:30pm On Sep 06, 2014
Thiza: @AUGUSTUS......I HAVE BEEN TO NIGERIA THREE TIMES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS AND EACH OF MY TRIPS HAS BEEN FOR ATLEAST 3 MONTHS EACH....PLACES I VISITED LAGOS, ABAJU AND PORT HARCOURT...SO WHENEVER YOUE COMMENT REMEMBER I KNOW YOUR COUNTRY TO WELL...NIGERIA IS JUST AN AVERAGE COUNTRY AND NOTHING EXTRA ORDINARY ACCEPT OF MOUTH LOUDED NIGERIANS BELIEVING THAT THEY ARE SUPERIOR THAN OTHER AFRICANS IN THE CONTINENT....REMEMBER NIGERIA IS NOT AN ALPHA OR OMEGA OF THE CONTINENT
Revisit Nigeria in 3 years time when Eko Atlantic city, Lekki Free Trade Zone, Greater PHC, and Centenary city are almost completed.

Rome was not built in a day. Nigeria is advancing. The most important thing is the change, not the current level.

Was Soweto a nice place for foreigners to visit in 1995 ?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:24pm On Sep 06, 2014
Thiza: @AUGUSTUS......I HAVE BEEN TO NIGERIA THREE TIMES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS AND EACH OF MY TRIPS HAS BEEN FOR ATLEAST 3 MONTHS EACH....PLACES I VISITED LAGOS, ABAJU AND PORT HARCOURT...SO WHENEVER YOUE COMMENT REMEMBER I KNOW YOUR COUNTRY TO WELL...NIGERIA IS JUST AN AVERAGE COUNTRY AND NOTHING EXTRA ORDINARY ACCEPT OF MOUTH LOUDED NIGERIANS BELIEVING THAT THEY ARE SUPERIOR THAN OTHER AFRICANS IN THE CONTINENT....REMEMBER NIGERIA IS NOT AN ALPHA OR OMEGA OF THE CONTINENT
Same with South Africa, we are both third world nations together, reason why I don't care to visit your over-rated country.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
CraigB: If the bombing had happened in Naai-geria, we'd be looking at the beginning of a three-year insurgency.

Look at how South Africa will simply get on with the business of life, seeing as the security agencies have this covered.
South African security, Police, Rangers, Army, Special Forces, Air Force, could NOT cover ordinary Kruger park alone, Rhino hunters defeated SANDF.....American soldiers came to your rescue grin grin

5,000 home based ready to die Islamic terrorist will turn South Africa into Somalia grin grin

http://www.10news.com/web/kgtv/news/ex-special-forces-battle-poachers-on-animal-planet-tv-show-030413


https://media.10news.com/photo/2013/03/04/16x9/Ex_Special_Forces_battle_poachers_on_Ani_372550000_382000_ver1.0_640_480.jpg
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:47pm On Sep 06, 2014
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Bama Battle Update :

Nigerian army k.ills 1,200 Boko Haram Fighters In 5 days

It is the mother of all battles

NAF jets and helicopters attack ALL Boko Haram bases simultaneously

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/boko-haram-jonathan-declares-full-scale-war-deploys-warplanes/

Africa's most experienced army gets angry o !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:39pm On Sep 06, 2014
Thiza: @AUGUSTUS NAME THE CITIES NOT ONLY ABUJA AND LAGOS.....I WILL B PUTTING TENS AND TENS OF SOUTH AFRICAN CITIES THAT ARE MORE THAN A SECTION YOU SELECT.......
Dude, Nigerians have better things to do with their time than living on photography.

The pictures I posted are all from different cities including Calabar.

I still have and keep Kaduna, Jos, Uyo, and rural areas with fantastic photos, but this is a military thread, so I wont go too far.

Lagos population is almost half of the whole South African nation, if I post Lagos, I have shown you a city of 22 million people !

A lot of beautiful rural areas of Nigeria is not photographed by anyone on internet.

Uyo is almost as beautiful as Lagos now, but very scarce photos.

Eko Atlantic city is under construction and very scarce photos.

If you see rocks and resorts in Jos you will marvel, but photos are scarce.

Then I don't want to turn this military thread into a social thread. I won't derail it.

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PoliticsRe: Nigerian Army's Campaign In The North Eastern Theatre (Photos) by agaugust: 12:53pm On Sep 06, 2014
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Bama Battle Update :

Nigerian army k.ills 1,200 Boko Haram Fighters In 5 days

It is the mother of all battles

Boko Haram numbers are growing like Chinese

The more we kill, the more new Bokos appear

NA shoots till bullets finish, then reload

Massive Boko Haram recruitment has taken place

NAF jets had to destroy a lot of Bama town

Hopes to weaken them with this battle

Boko Haram has become an Octopus

Unconfirmed estimates from people say Boko has about 20,000 fighters

Exact numbers is unknown, but Boko is a larger 'army' than before

Pray for Nigeria, pray hard !

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http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/boko-haram-jonathan-declares-full-scale-war-deploys-warplanes/

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:45am On Sep 06, 2014
iterator25: dude there are better pictures on skyscrapercity
thanks, will check them out.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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more Naija !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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[size=14pt]NIGERIA ![/size]

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:56pm On Sep 05, 2014
Thiza: IT WILL TAKE NIGERIA 200 YEARS TO REACH THE SOUTH AFRICAN STANDARD
South Africa is Africa's R.ape and M.urder paradise, sorry Nigeria does NOT want to reach your horrible standard. Thank you

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:36pm On Sep 05, 2014
CraigB: I love how Chris has been reduced to searching the net for bad news on South Africa, Hello Piggy! kiss
You have never google searched for any good news about Nigeria, Hello Piggy kiss
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:34pm On Sep 05, 2014
CraigB: All that's gonna happen is that you will be shown how civilised nations deal with this type of thing. Whatever it is , it will be a nice lesson for your loser nation.
If only 5,000 armed and suicide ready Al Qaeda Islamic Jihadists exist and live as South African citizens disguising daily as ordinary civilians living and spread all over South Africa, your country will be like Somalia grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:31pm On Sep 05, 2014
chris365: Na small small extremists dey start. Well one to south Africa my dear bomberscheesy.


Cape Town - It appears that Woolworths was

not the target of a bombing near one of its

branches in Cape Town, the

retail group said on Friday.

It said that CCTV footage showed a man

walking past the Woolworths food store in

Kromboom Road, Athlone, and

placing a device outside a neighbouring store.

Several stores were damaged. There were no

injuries.

Western Cape police are investigating but

would not elaborate on Woolworths latest

statement, said spokesperson

Captain FC van Wyk.

No arrests have been made, Van Wyk said.

A second pipe bomb exploded near a car

dealership in nearby Belgravia Road also on

Friday morning.

The City of Cape Town's fire and rescue

services told Eyewitness News they were called

to Belgravia Road after an

apparent explosion. They found a car was on

fire, and bystanders said it had exploded.

eNCA reporter Lester Kiewit said that there

were similar pipe-bombings at two auto

dealerships in Athlone in August last year
Warning bells for Shout Afrika republic

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:32pm On Sep 05, 2014
patches689: And how many Wahala's for the 3500 Nigerians killed by boko haram?
Their souls already rests in peace, it is the living that worry...like you do .
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:09pm On Sep 05, 2014
patches689: O look a whole lot of opinion and no facts

You aren't getting 100% tech transfer - or else you would be building more than one gun boat in Nigeria

Citations or GTFO
Nope, numbers of that powerful Stealth warship to be built domestically in Nigeria is being negotiated for total of 8 units to be built at the new world class shipyard in Port Harcourt.

South Africa has NEVER even built one stealth speed boat talk less of a whole stealth warship, yet you obey 10 commandments forced on Jacob Zuma by new lords in China grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:30pm On Sep 05, 2014
patches689: Nope we did a favor for an ally

And let's not get started on Nigeria - how much did it cost the Chinese to buy you again? A couple billion wasn't it?

We are a member of BRICS which means that we have a close relationship - as equals- with the Chinese Russians brazilians and Indians

Nigeria has yet to achieve that status
China has NEVER dabbled into Nigerian politics and policies.

We suck China's wealth and knowledge, Nigeria got 100% technology transfer from China to build Africa's first home made stealth warship with 2014 state-of-the-art technology.

South Africa is a dumping ground for Chinese goods and Chinese ten commandments....

"Thou shall NOT befriend any Dalai Lama"

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:25pm On Sep 05, 2014
patches689: Experience means nothing when you have training
You can go employ a 20 year old fresh graduate and make him MD/CEO of Toyota Company. Fool.

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:18pm On Sep 05, 2014
chris365: THIS PROBABLY SUMS IT UP sad sad sad sad

[size=14pt]The South African National Defense Force - A Military in Freefall[/size]
Despite an eagerness to use the South African National Defense Force (SANDF) as a means of projecting the nation's influence abroad, there is evidence that South Africa's government has so neglected or mismanaged its military assets that it may soon be unable to defend itself, much less engage in international adventures.

Last year, Roelf Meyer, the chairman of South Africa's defense review committee, identified a number of strategic goals for the SANDF, including:

· Maintaining the security of South Africa's borders;

· Promoting peace and security in Africa;

· Assisting civil authorities in policing or anti-poaching efforts;

· Establishing South Africa as a responsible leading member of the African Union;

· Responding to new regional threats such as piracy (Business Day [Johannesburg], April 13, 2012).

However, with a reduced force size and inadequate resources, the SANDF will soon have difficulty meeting most of these goals.

[b]Life in the South African military is not seen as desirable by many potential recruits. Pay can be erratic, HIV rates are as high as 25% (making these troops unavailable for external deployment) and an estimated 35% of South Africa's military barracks have been classed as unfit for human occupation since 2007 (Mail & Guardian [Johannesburg], April 21, 2012). Without money to operate sophisticated equipment, skilled staff continue to flee at the end of their enlistment and there is little opportunity for new recruits to train in skills useful in the civilian world. Parliament's Joint Standing Committee on Defense has described abuse of women in the SANDF as "common," adding that many female recruits have been impregnated by their instructors (BUAnews, November 26, 2011). Racial abuse of black subordinates by white senior officers also remains a problem 19 years into the integration process. South African troops are unionized and have at times clashed with police during pay disputes[/b].

With the 2012 defense budget of $3.8 billion still far below the 2 percent of GDP required to maintain the armed forces, the South African defense department began looking at other ways of generating income, including contracting out soldiers to municipalities to do various labor and infrastructure repair projects. The department also created the Defense Estate Management agency to lease or sell-off defense department lands. Much of the land owned by the SANDF came by way of British government endowments of military facilities made on the condition that they could only be used for defense purposes

Politicization of the military is still a problem in South Africa. There has been speculation that the current chief of the SANDF, Angolan-trained Lieutenant General Solly Zacharia Shoke, received his appointment as a result of his history as a commander in Umkhonto we Sizwe, the ANC's military wing (SAPA, May 11, 2011). Umkhonto we Sizwe forces were integrated into the newly formed SANDF between 1994 and 2004. An investigative commission recently declared that the SANDF was too politicized, a situation typified by former Defense Minister Lindiwe Sisulu's preference for wearing SANDF uniforms at public occasions

A sometimes unaccountable procurement process remains a problem for the South African military; last year the political opposition revealed over $7.75 billion had passed through a defense department slush fund that had failed to reveal to parliament how the money had been spent (Johannesburg Times, April 18, 2012). The army has been overlooked in recent acquisition programs and is close to finding itself equipped with obsolete equipment in terms of armored personnel carriers, logistics vehicles and main battle tanks

South Africa's once-effective air force has new aircraft but cannot afford the fuel and maintenance needed to keep them in the air. Despite this, one element of the air force that did see extensive time in the air was Squadron 21, charged with flying South African VIPs and government ministers. Former defense minister Lindiwe Sisilu booked 203 flights over three years in chartered luxury Gulfstream jets at an estimated cost of $4.5 million. Some 63 of the flights were empty, as they were intended solely to pick the minister up somewhere and take her to another destination in what one opposition critic described as "a staggering waste of money"

While government ministers travel in luxury, the South African Air Force (SAAF) still transports troops in 70-year-old Dakota aircraft. One of these, a Dakota C47TP (an upgraded DC-3 with turbine engines) crashed, claiming 11 lives when it was unable to fly above inclement weather. The crash came shortly after the military decided it could no longer afford a maintenance contract for its military aircraft (SAPA, December 6, 2012; Sunday Times [Johannesburg], December 10, 2012). World War II-era Dakotas also continue to be used for surveillance of South Africa's 3,900 kilometer coastline in the absence of modern surveillance aircraft. Meanwhile, 26 new Swedish-built Gripen fighter-jets, purchased at a cost of R10 billion (approximately $1 billion), average only two hours in the air each week; not enough to keep the machines in operable condition and far from the 10 hours of flight-time each week considered necessary to keep pilots well-trained

Former SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano retired in 2012 after trying to resign in late 2011 during his hospitalization for stress as he continued to try unsuccessfully to find enough money for the fuel and maintenance to keep the SAAF in the air. His successor, Lieutenant General Fabian Zimpande Msimang (the first black chief of the SAAF) will have trouble keeping all but executive travel jets in the air if current funding problems continue

The once formidable South African navy now spends little time at sea. Replacement parts and maintenance budgets barely exist, leaving only one of the navy's four new frigates operational and only one its four new submarines able to put out to sea (Sunday Times [Johannesburg], December 10, 2012). South African Navy ships and SAAF aircraft carry out anti-piracy operations in the Mozambique Channel, though this mission is also threatened by underfunding.

Despite economic troubles and a collapsing military, South Africa still desires to be a major player in Africa, which encourages it to commit to missions that stretch the military's capacity to its breaking point. Unless current trends are reversed, the steady transformation of the SANDF into an assembly of riot police and border guards will be completed in just a few years. Geography and reputation have left South Africa with few external enemies, but it is also extremely wealthy in various resources. South Africa was only cobbled together from various constituent parts a little more than a century ago, and it would not be surprising if a general collapse of South Africa's security infrastructure invited the emergence of secessionist movements drawing on both domestic and external inspiration. South Africa's eventual inability to project force beyond its borders will also have important implications for regional security in sub-Saharan Africa.

This report was compiled by JAMESTOWN FOUNDATION and cited from "Terrorism Monitor Volume: 11 Issue: 2"

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh my sides grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin the dakota part cracked my ribs grin grin

Triple Wahala for dead body
tongue tongue

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:17pm On Sep 05, 2014
chris365: Now I see why seleka feasted on sandf and made them run back to Soweto like scared dogs grin. And why they needed Tanzanian protection in drc grin


Weak Leadership And Silence On Loss Of SAndf Skills


RAFEEK SHAH, MP
DA SPOKESPERSON FOR DEFENCE

An average of 187 skilled and experienced technicians and 24 pilots of the South African Air Force (SAAF) resign annually. According to a parliamentary reply (1), we are experiencing a steady loss of skills and experience, which has serious implications for force readiness, the maintenance of equipment and weaponry, and the supervision of subordinate members.

The Democratic Alliance (DA) wrote a letter to the previous Minister of Defence asking for details on what is being done to address the ongoing loss of critical skills in the military, as well as for details of a contingency plan which will guarantee that our defence capability is not compromised. To date, the DA has not received any reply.

In September 2008, we called upon the new Minister, Charles Nqakula, to tell the public what he intended to do about the loss of military skills. To date, we have heard nothing. Repeatedly, we see clear evidence of weak and ineffective leadership in critical issues. Is the Minister going to wait until there is no one left before he acts?

Since 2004:

? There have been 94 resignations by pilots, and all of these were of the rank Second Lieutenant and higher;
? There have been 746 resignations by SAAF technical personnel and of these, 51 resignations were of the rank Second Lieutenant and higher;
? There have been 114 resignations from Command and Control (2), and of these 40 were of the rank Second Lieutenant and higher.

We can clearly see that there is a steady loss of skills and experience from the SAAF every year. While the military is bringing in new members through the Military Skills Development System (MSDS), this system merely replaces bodies but not skills and experience. The loss of senior experienced personnel also affects the ability of the military to develop young military leadership by example and skills transfer.

We want to see clear, decisive action being taken by the Minister to assure us that something is being done to address this issue. We repeat our calls for the Minister to address the public on this matter and for a full audit to be done to determine why people are resigning.

(1) Parliamentary Reply No. 1476/2008
(2) Command and Control provides operationally ready command and control elements in support of air battle space operations
Double Wahala for dead body shocked shocked

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