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patches689: Our goal was never expansion into Angola

Our goal was to get Cuba to withdraw its troops so that we could give independence to Namibia and not worry about having another border nation become communist

We got the Cubans to agree to a troop withdrawal

hence, Victory

Nope, South Africa's goal was to rule Angola like Namibia. You just reminded me, Namibia too defeated South Africa
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patches689: A political settlement that kept northern ireland under the rule of the UK - a.k.a complete victory

Okay according to your own logic, the political settlement with Cuba of the Bush War that kept Angola free from South African power expansion is therefore a.k.a complete victory for Angola and complete defeat for South Africa
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Msauza: PIRACY ON WEST AFRICA

Since this particular piracy attack successfully happened in Angolan waters right inside SADC region, South Africa and all her fellow SADC members have entered the piracy map....welcome to your new world, Submarine navy...Titus Sardine fish navy....Bwahahahaha


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FighterPilot: http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=49232

TOPS THE PIRACY LIST.

Since this particular piracy attack successfully happened in Angolan waters right inside SADC region, South Africa and all her fellow SADC members have entered the piracy map...welcome to your new world, Submarine navy...Titus Sardine fish navy...Bwahaha


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FighterPilot: LISTENING IS A SKILL, NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE MAD LIKE YOU. THEY USE THEIR OWN DISCRETION TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. OBVIOUSLY WHEN PIRATES MOVE FROM SADC TO ECOWAS WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO DO. TO CALL SA? THAT WOULD BE STUPIDITY OF THE WORST ORDER.

Nope !

The piracy attack was on a Greek ship inside Angola waters, just left Angolan harbor, the call for help was sent to Nigeria when the ship was being threatened inside Angola.

What the fvck ! It's not Nigeria that signed to protect your SADC local region including the whole of Angola, it was South Africa you buffoon!

Nigerian navy = Shark
South African navy = Titus Sardine


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FighterPilot: SA NEVER NEEDED HELP FROM NIGERIA, ANGOLA DID.

....inside your own backyard SADC region of defense agreement

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FighterPilot: IT MAKES SENSE TO CONTACT NIGERIAN NAVY SINCE IT WOULD TAKE AGES FOR SA NAVY TO CATCH UP WITH THE PIRATES.

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Oh my God !

What a beautiful confession after 4 years of arguing on this nairaland thread !

A South African military officer finally admits that South African billion dollar navy needs help from Nigerian navy...wow !

Submarine blue water navy on her knees begging Nigerian navy for help....sweet music I must dance today o !

Who has the strongest military in Africa after Egypt?

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Thiza: THESE ARE SOUTH AFRICAN NUCLEAR BOMBS TO THOSE NAIRAS THAT HAVE NEVER SET AN EYE ON THE PRODUCT

Your photo shows expired Nuclear bombs now dismantled.

Bomb is a sitting duck, ICBM is a missile that flies.
South Africa has NO real ICBM....it's propaganda
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MikeZA: I can take such picture too here in SA. Geography still says "NO" to your claims.

patches689: ask and you shall receive

Pic 1 is of them being escorted back over the border

Give me 8 hours and I will show you the true source of that fake photo with web link, its a Nigerian army training exercise at home down South, it's been on google images for years, an old photo ! Nothing to do with Cameroon or Boko Haram....Fool

patches689: ask and you shall receive

Pic 1 is of them being escorted back over the border

I am going to make you eat the humble pie again as usual Patrick ! LOL !

agaugust: Give me 8 hours and I will show you the true source of that fake photo with web link, its a Nigerian army training exercise at home down South, it's been on google images for years, an old photo ! Nothing to do with Cameroon or Boko Haram....Fool
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Now it's about 8 hours and I keep my promise.

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That Nigerian army large troops movement photo is from Bayelsa state in the Niger Delta rain forest region of Southern Nigeria, it has been used many times for different internet posts for some years now including on Nairaland.

It is NOT NOT NOT Nigerian army in North East escorted home by Cameroon !!!!

https://www.nairaland.com/1256889/kpogede77-army-drone-skys-no

ALL South Africans are fools and second dullest brains in the world...Confirmed

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MikeZA: South Africa could go ahead back then and start throwing this devilish weapons at Nigeria. Reducing Abuja to radiation ash.

Those nuclear bombs are deactivated and expired. You end up b.lowing your own South Africa into pieces if you try to use it. Ode...Bobo Odenson
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MikeZA: I can go to a SAAF museum and take more picture of rocket launchers,bombs& missiles and you'll foolis..hly say we never used the types. I can also go to a SAN museum and find a submarine.

Are all those ICBM ? I said your Soweto ICBM never flew, na fat turkey walking on the ground
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MikeZA: Northern Angola is closer to Nigeria than Cape Town. There's no point of calling SA to rescue a vessel in northern Angola. When we are called to for SAR miracles happen,remember this > news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/662472.stm

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The vessel attack was NEVER said to be in Northern Angola, all that sources say is that it happened in Angolan waters which is part of what South Africa signed agreement to protect and defend under your regional SADC joint protocol.

Then Southern Angola is closer to South Africa than Nigeria.

Also the middle of Angola is equal distance between Nigeria and South Africa.

What the fvck ! It was South Africa that signed agreement to protect the whole SADC region and that includes the whole of Angola, north or south does not matter. What matters is that the world has seen a blue water photo-mania Hollywood navy that cannot protect the local region it signed agreement to protect.

The day enemy wan invade South Africa, na dat ya side wey dey open 24/7 unprotected and uncovered na there enemy special forces go take ocean enter come drop Ebola Biological time bomb inside ya South Africa and dem go sail back to base, after which time bomb release virus all the way down to Cape Town....na dat time ya eyes go clear !
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patches689: 2014

Thinking national budgetary considerations are based on accounting

My sides

Accountants prepare budgets, or carpenters do it in South Africa?
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patches689: Do you wish to argue finance with a CFA?

You are a simple bean counter, my boy.

CFA my foot, bring him on to face me. Augustine is an ex-KPMG Auditor...if you ever know what that means
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MikeZA: "Spread to avoid ambush kill"? Lmaooo. Artillery towed by gun trucks,like you always say "even togo can do that. Carrying a 1960 relics

That Nigerian artillery used in Damboa is a year 2000 product M56 Yugoslav made artillery with almost 20km range for a 105mm gun !

South Africa has NOTHING in that class and modernity, Nigeria has 200 units of it.

You seem not to have a good education that tells you the difference between 1960 and year 2,000.

High school drop out ;P
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patches689: We built ballistic missiles - and improved on their design.

We didnt need ICBM's

Your ICBM never flew, it is a metal junk museum piece. If you launch a missile, you cannot display the same missile in a museum, it's gone for ever.

Fact is, Soweto's dummy ICBM never ever flew
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patches689: you were closer

Where we operate there are ZERO pirate attacks

this year alone there were 11 off your coast

Nope, Angola is equidistant from both countries. Gap is the same.

Then Nigeria has to cross 4 different countries EEZ to reach Angola, South Africa only crosses 1 country's EEZ.

SADC defense agreement zone is South Africa's full responsibility as the largest Hollywood noisemakers in your region

SAN is a failed blue water navy only good in photos .

Then you admit South Africa's billion dollar submarine navy needs help from Nigeria because you have ZERO force projection
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patches689: None of those sources say that Egypt produces and develops on the scale of South Africa

We are in the Top 20 for a reason

Those 5 sources CLEARLY say Egypt domestically manufactured thousands of guided missiles and hundreds of ballistic missiles, plus over 1,000 main battle tanks....show me 1,000 tanks made in South Africa.

Egypt is now proved to be Africa's biggest weapon manufacturer.

South Africa is at near bottom table of arms exporters NOT producers, you Retaard !

Your country on that table only beats countries like Azerbaijan

Many of the arms export by South Africa counted in your favor on that table include imported equipment you purchased from Europe and later resold to countries like Ecuador Cheetah jets, and French made Helicopters to Zimbabwe.

I proved that here, this year on SIPRI arms transfer database.

You South Africans have been posting false information about your country on this forum for too long, now Nigerians have decided to expose your AZZ and show how it is not clean

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MikeZA: Our air force always perform well,from rescuing victims,combat search and rescue all over SADC,mounting rescues,sea rescue(Nigerian air force is still to develop that.

Wow ! South African air force was tied to a tree like a goat, when Nigerian military power was called in by Angola to carry out force projection operation inside your SADC defense zone. SANDF cannot even rescue itself, Angola cried to Nigeria for help, and we saved them inside your SADC

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Henry120: I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


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http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.

Master-Blaster 10/10 post . This will go on record for this forum

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Henry120: " However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

This is your SANDF.

Oh blimey !
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Troop101: how did they drop and pick-up our special force guys during the bush war your MOFO

Even Togo republic can do that ! You Dumbo
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MikeZA: Augubugubu posted pictures of your men matching to Damboa on foot.

They carried 105mm artillery guns on foot? Olodo !

Maybe SANDF infantry have no legs or too lazy to walk when close to target, or spread out to prevent 'one shot k.ill 20 ambush risk'. You don't know war tactics. Olodo !

Troop101: how did they drop and pick-up our special force guys during the bush war your MOFO

That was SADF not SANDF....and Bush war was 20 years ago, South Africa has fallen 10 times weaker today. Fact !

Seleka won't defeat the former SADF military of Apartheid South Africa era ! Fact !
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MikeZA: Egypt produces licenced weapons,for its "armed forces". South Africa produces more than that and way ahead.

Egypt prove to be Africa's biggest weapons producer, fact ! This thread gets worse for South Africa every month...Butt Hurt

Most South African made weapons are copies, and stolen or purchased/imported designs, Hawk Jets and Badger IFV are European licensed

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MikeZA: Yes,it has enough fuel to reach Taiwan. Angola wasn't threatened by anyone,if a SADC member is threatened or attacked you'd see the best military units in Africa deployed for combat it was the case in the Great African war,Angolan civil war,Lesotho. The best region in Africa.

Taiwan ? Your Soweto OPV won't sail beyond Cape Town before deep ocean wave and storm sinks it

SADC region that cannot fight ordinary pirates off it's own regional oceans always crying to Nigerian navy for deliverance

Angola wasted money buying Su-30 jets, while South Africa wasted money buying useless Submarines. SADC Fools

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MikeZA: South Africa designs and produces more weapons than all Africans countries.

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Biggest Weapons Manufacturer In Africa Is Egypt !


Egyptian home defense industry produces thousands of main battle tanks, ballistic missiles, tactical guided missiles, amroured vehicles, jet fighters, jet engines, etc

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Nope, biggest weapons producer in Africa is Egypt, I proved it today. This forum had been misled for too long.

South Africa is a lousy noise maker and fake leader in anything. Some silent countries in Africa are superior to the noisy SA.

Truth has come out today....

http://www.nti.org/facilities/412/

http://fas.org/irp/threat/missile/egypt.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/egypt/army-equipment-intro.htm

http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/4311/egypts-other-revolution_modernizing-the-military-i

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MikeZA: Go post the picture of that donated cutter somewhere. South African OPVs can sink it easily.

Your South African OPV that does not have enough fuel to reach Angola and save your SADC defense partner in time of need...

Fake blue water navy

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Msauza: Governments are non-profit making organisation, meaning all that they have collected in one financial year will be used as a budget in the next financial year. That's why they call their profits revenues because they will have to use all of it.

PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION 1

Fail

The next year has it's own revenue and needs no carry over technically called "Balance Carried Forward" in micro book keeping/accounting.

Say thank you again...

Thiza: NIGERIAN ARMY SAVED BY CAMEROON....HAIL CAMEROON HAIL CAMEROON

Cameroonian officials have confirmed that at least 480 Nigerian soldiers are now in the protective custody of the neighboring country’s gendarmes after they crossed into Cameroon earlier today to escape from Boko Haram insurgents who have launched a massive offensive.

Cameroonian gendarmes had disarmed the Nigerian soldiers, officials from the West African nation told a correspondent of the Hausa Service of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) today.

The fleeing soldiers are being held in an undisclosed school inside Cameroon, according to senior Cameroonian officials who spoke to the BBC.

Earlier today, SaharaReporters had reported that Boko Haram militants took over a Nigerian army base in Ngala, Borno State, before proceeding to attack the town of Gamboru on the Nigerian-Cameroon border. The insurgents retook the town which they had attacked and seized several weeks ago. Nigerian troops had subsequently used aerial bombardment and ground attacks to wrest Gamboru back from the Islamist insurgents.

Our security sources had disclosed that the militants faced no resistance from Nigerian troops during their massive attacks on Ngala-Gamboru today. Instead, the Nigerian soldiers were so overwhelmed that they fled across the border in large numbers and into the waiting hands of Cameroonian soldiers who instantly disarmed them.

http://saharareporters.com/2014/08/25/close-500-nigerian-soldiers-flee-cameroon-avoid-confrontation-boko-haram

Msauza: THE TRUTH FINALLY COMES OUT ABOUT 480 SOLDIERS WHO FLED TO CAMEROON. IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO POOR AND OBSOLETE EQUIPMENT.
http://thestreetjournal.org/2014/08/revealed-how-boko-haram-drove-nigerian-troops-into-cameroon/

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This proves that ALL South Africans are fools forever

"480 Nigerian troops crossed over during a battle with the insurgents. Nigeria said the troops crossed over while making a tactical maneuver.

Colonel Didier Badjeck, a Cameroon military spokesman, told VOA that allegations made in Cameroonian media that the incidence was a defection were unfounded, but added that they were particularly careful over the presence of the Nigerian soldiers as Boko Haram militants could also disguise as a regular army and attack them."

http://www.voanews.com/content/boko-haram-attacks-nigerian-soldiers-in-cameroon/2429429.html

See how easily ordianary Cameroonians fool South Africans with fake news...LOL...Dull Soweto brains get scammed from West Africa. LOL !

Now Soweto mofos, you show us where SANDF has made such a tactical maneuver in real battle since 20 years ago, all we see on nairaland are photos of South African soldiers fighting in empty space shooting at ghosts that do not exist....

See this one open big mouth, point him rifle at the Camera-man...fake army
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Msauza: Remember you once worshipped it when I argued that world fact book which is also a source of wikipedia is a better credible source. Taste of own medicine.

No, both are unreliable sources.