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Mike..ZA:
The valour frigates are 70% South African.

the next lie you will tell us here is that your grandmother is still a virgin as at today

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Mike..ZA:
M23 was better armed than any foe Nigeria has ever faced from 122mm howitzers,T-55,Mortars and technicals. They fled and abandoned their howitzers and ammunition when the Rooivalk started hitting them with precision. Your Mi-24 were tested in combat but their heat signature was a serious weak point which was easily exploited. The UN tried using them against the M23 without success the M23 captured Goma. And the M23 are not some hungry cannibals,they're well trained soldiers some from the RDF.

go tell those lies to the united nations forces in congo DRC.

Mike..ZA:
Which country between South Africa and Nigeria was involved in the biggest battle on the African soil since WW2?. On which front was South Africa hiding behind the TPDF?

Nigeria, the biggest war ever on African soil is Biafran war 1967-1970 with half a million soldiers fighting on both sides and the largest marine/amphibious landing in african history was done by nigerian navy warships and army 3rd marine commandoes.

now go drink your own urine , you need natural cure therapy

Mike..ZA:
Nigeria's artillery pieces are obsolete. Only Bofors can be a worthy foe

nigeria's 200 units M-56 Yugoslav 105mm artillery guns are modern.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M56_Howitzer

nigerian APR-40 rocket artillery are 1990s generation.

both nigerian Palmaria mobile artillery and south african G6 Rhino artillery are 1980's generation.

so whats your medula oblongata telling you ?

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Mike..ZA:
Nigeria can't operate those hind helicopters if it was hit with sanctions.

south africa too CANNOT operate its half-french Rooivalk helicopter if hit by sanctions, the engine is imported fully made in France .

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Mike..ZA:
South Africa can get any missile Nigeria have in the region(SADC) to study.

only nigeria has Roland missiles and PL-9C missiles in the whole of africa, they are too expensive for every other sub-saharan military to buy in your neighbourhood, so you dont have any access to study them

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Mike..ZA:
IT is only right that we rank your army below the battle tested/proven and hardened SA army .

how many south african army soldiers have died in wars or fire fights since the past 25 years ? only 15 killed by seleka

how does that make an whole army battle hardened ?

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[size=16pt]weakness of south african navy Type 209 submarines[/size]


south african navy Type 209 submarine has only a submerged range of 740km and nigeria is 5,000km away.

Range:

11000 Nautical miles (nmi) at 10 knots, surfaced,
(20,000 km at 20 km/h)


8,000 nmi at 10 knots, snorkeling,
(15,000 km at 20 km/h)


400 nmi at 4 knots, submerged
(740 km at 7 km/h)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_209_submarine


this is the weakness of south african navy submarines i said i have seen and i will post, the naval blockade if attempted will be a total disaster leading to the wiping out of south africa's expensive but not so effective navy.


south africa will not be able to torpedo NNS ARADU, she will be safe in harbour because south african submarines CANNOT reach nigerian waters 5,000km away without surfacing or snorkeling and nigerian super spy satellites and the powerful ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft master of the ocean will see your submarines coming, then NNS ARADU withdraws into safe harbour sourrounded by anti-submarine and anti-frogmen nets and mines.

the submarines need to be exposed to surface in nigerian waters to give them range, and they will be sunk by NAF Alpha jets and L-39 Albatross jets, or even Mi-35 nd Mi-171 terminator helicopter gunships, as the submarine sails in that vulnerable mode.

south african navy submarines have NO capacity to remain in nigerian waters for more than one single day (and that is if they ever reach nigerian EEZ ocean territory alive without being sunk by NAF aircraft rockets) and mount a naval blockade without running out of diesel/fuel or being sunk from the air by jets or helicopters.

south african Type 209 submarins have a serious technical weakness, they CANNOT hide submerged underwater for more than 50 hours and must be at very slow snail speed of 7 km/hr in nigerian waters for their maximum time of those 50 hours, or else they run out of fuel/diesel, and become stranded and get sunk in nigerian waters.

they CANNOT mount a naval blockade 5,000 km away from home. FACT !!!!

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Mike..ZA:
Nigeria didn't fight in WW2. Nigerians did but not the Nigerian army. A black South African sunk a German warship too. That counts as a combat kill by South Africa. Nigeria is ill experienced compared to South Africa that is a fact.

show us source that says a black south africa navy sailor sank a german submarine. show us now

german u-boats sank several south african warships in world war II.

south africa submarine story in modern times is a war game of NATO fooling soweto :



the south african navy submarine was used to target 5 old outdated NATO warships and only 1 modern frigate



HOLLAND's naval ship is a 2005 technology stealth ship and is the only modern ship in the whole 6 ship NATO task force. Holland is one of the European countries with No sensible war experience in modern times, they avoid deadly combat.

the 5 other NATO navy ships are much older technology and close to their retirement age, they are :

USA navy ship is 1988 technology and now retired from a service
CANADA's navy ship is 1990 technology
PROTUGAL SICK BABY OF EUROPE's navy ship is 1991 technology
DENMARK navy's ships is 1981 technology and now retired from service
GERMANY's naval ship is an ordinary fuel storage tanker ship with 1977 technology

the SOUTH AFRICAN navy submarine is 2006 technology used against 5 outdated old warships with inferior technology


the NATO navies had better warships but did not bring them to south africa. also, no british, french, german or italian navy warship was present in the NATO force, and these are the 4 most powerful NATO countries in europe.

British navy stealth destroyer warship HMS Daring and US navy Arleigh Burke stealth destroyer warship have both been fully operational since 2006, a year before the so called defeat of NATO warships and they did not come to south africa then for the NATO war game.


nigerian navy too can use our 2012 Type 056 Stealth light frigate warship to missile target lock on that same american 1988 warship because it cannot see the nigeria stealth vessel built with modern stealth technology, then we come to nairaland and boast that nigeria navy defeated american warship !

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Mike..ZA:
Read the link below. Russia. Russia is always whopping butt,with modern experience. Nigeria didn't fight Chad and Cameroon. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War

Russia has no modern war history or experirnce against any strong country since 1945 world war II.

Chechen rebels were weaker than 130,000 liberian plus sierra leonean rebels.

Mujahedeen rebels were just like Boko Haram.

Georgia is as weak as Chad and Cameroon.

Russia does NOT have better modern war experience than Nigeria, yet Russia is number two super power of the world, same way Nigeria is number two super power of Africa only after Egypt. FACT !!!

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Mike..ZA:
Range is useless if you can't hit your targets.

i thought you that truth, say thank you sir. mister fake 70km range G-6 artillery that has only a 38km range shell

Mike..ZA:
Did you know our brothers in Zimbabwe have those PL missiles,which South Africa can easily get to study. Your Bofors can engage the G6 in counter battery fire,which is protected against splinters and counter battery fire. Nigeria only has around 40 something of them. A Long battle with South Africa? Do you really know that SA is capable of producing illegal weapons like chemicals and cluster munitions? Nigeria wouldn't want a long war with SA. Pretoria would never fall if a country failed to capture it in a month. Plus 1.Nigeria doesn't have the capacity to bomb South Africa's defence industry complexes around Jozi. 2. Both Nigeria and SA lack massive air lift capability,campaigns stop or slow down without supplies(munitions,food,spare parts,fresh troops etc) 3.Nigeria's systems,vehicles mostly are not fitted for the hot African battlefield. Look at the SANDF's G6 and Ratels vehicles they can carry loads of water and supplies. 4.The fact that Nigeria's air force is weak can be exploited,your columns on the ground can be bombed to ashes by the Hawks.

nigeria has 48 Bofors artillery. south aafrica has 46 G-6 artillery. so use your head, stop borrowing mine.

nigeria's total artillery guns are 660 units, south africa has 120 units.

nigeria has a current nuclear reactor contruction project bigger than the mini nuclear reactor we have now. we deal in nuclear power with Russia.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a6xdU8aDRJCQ

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Mike..ZA:
Now that Tanzania has acquired newer 14 F 7 jets,better than those of Nigeria we will now rank Tanzania's air force above that of Nigeria.

Tanzania has 12 old 1980 version F-7A jets, the only modern version they have is F-7MG of 2011 new version and 6 units only.

Tanzanian F-7 jets have no ultra-modern PL-9C missiles of nigerian F-7 jets, so how do you rate them higher ?

tell me, are you a military man , policeman, or a just civilian who operates a beer palour or wine bar ?

i cannot avoid laughing at your military comments, really cracks my ribs like basket mouth and papa ajasco

Nigeria has the most expensive, most powerful and best loaded F-7 jet in the world at $15 million each for our 12 units.

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Mike..ZA:
South Africa operated the Seeker in Angola against Cuba,Angola and the Soviet Union. These had better air defence systems. South Africa will enjoy air superiority. Your Bofors F-77 requires gun tractors,supply vehicles to fuel those tractors. The G5 can be easily by its crew on the battlefield. That ATR-42 is a maritime surveillance aircraft,but it can be detected by the Thutlwa radar intercepted by a Gripen JAS-39C and a shoot down by cannon fire. Did you know that South Africa used balloons attached with aluminium strips to fool Angolan/Cuban radar? They fired the their SAMs. Betraying their positions. THINK AGAIN!!

did your seeker drone make you win the war in angola ? NO

ordinary nigerian Type 90 computerized anti-aircraft guns with 6.5km range will shoot down all south african drones, and in few minutes you have no drones flying any more

south africa has ZERO air superiority over nigeria, F-7 jet missile range and south african Gripen jet range are both eqaul and within visual range of each other. so where is the air superiority ? fool

ATR-42 Surveyor will be operating with its 330km range radar from nigerian side of the battle frontline, Gripen jet missile range is only 25km, and F-7 jets will escort to protect the NAF ATR-42, like this photo shows you....

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Mike..ZA:
The ECOWAS was crying "this South African war ship will complicate things". Your jets will have to dave down to attack with rockets,only to shot down from the sky by the Umkhonto. That NNS Arandu would have been sunk by a torpedo,within weeks of doing that.

SAS Drakensberg of south african navy is a suppy ship with no single missile to defend itself. NNS ARADU will sink it as target practice.

it was the only ship you had in ivory coast at that time. if we sink it, we prepare for war. nigerian spy satellites will see any south african Valour frigate before they reach nigeria from your 5,000km away naval base, and ATR-42 Surveyor of NAF is going to detect your whole navy from 330km away.

south africa will not be able to torpedo NNS ARADU, she will be safe in harbour because south african submarines CANNOT reach nigerian waters 5,000km away without surfacing or snorkeling and nigerian satellites and ATR-42 surveyor master of the ocean will see your submarines coming, then NNS ARADU withdraws into safe harbour sourrounded by anti-submarine and anti-frogmen nets and mines.

south african navy Type 209 submarine has only a submerged range of 740km and nigeria is 5,000km away.

this is the weakness of south african navy submarines i said i have seen and i will post, the naval blockade if attempted will be a total disaster leading to the wiping out of south africa's expensive but not so effective naval power.

then nigeria will invade south africa and take your homeland !

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Mike..ZA:
Nigeria has man portable targeting systems,any country has those. Which South Africa used the 1987-1988 period. I love talking about facts..Mike..FACTS..Show me any Nigerian advanced targeting system like the SANDF's Vulture.

nigeria has israeli aerostar drones and nigerian made amebo drones version III for targeting.

however, in national army vs national army combat, drones cannot survive in an environment full of anti-aircraft defences and jet fighters.

use your head if you have one

nigeria has the best targeting system for artillery guns in africa.

1. nigerian army and sweden's NATO army use the same Bofors F-77 gun and targeting sophistication is the same world class, world's best.

2. nigerian ATR-42 surveyor aircraft also does land operations by using its radar, TV cameras, infra red FLIR detectors, long range vision bubble windows, and night vision hardware to scan the ground from a distance up to 330km, thus detecting all south african army weapons and troops locations without any challenge from south african starstreak missiles which have altitude of only 1km and a zero threat to the nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft.

the NAF aircraft has capacity to scan hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of land in a few minutes and track 100 targets simultaneously as we already use it to even track human beings and vehicles moving on ground in our illegal cross border detection operations.

nigeria will find all south african army locations, receive azimuth and GPS targeting data and artillery fire control/accuracy re-direction from the NAF ATR-42 surveyor aircraft and bombard with 45km range APR-40 rockets and 40km range Bofors F-77 guns.....then we roast mandela's army, then zuma will cry like a new born baby.


http://www.atraircraft.com/media/downloads/ATR%2042%20Surveyor%202004.pdf

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Mike..ZA:
Nigeria doesn't have any combat record please. And are you saying Wikipedia made up that shot?

any dummy can post lies on wikipedia dude, reason why i use it with caution and compare other sources, then i use my common sense too.

the south african long range sniper shot is fake , according to your own SANDF army general. we posted that source many times here at that time.

Mike..ZA:
Don't forget to mention "with the help of the Nigeria slayer South Africa".

south africa should slay seleka rebels first, then we can let you try somalia's al-shabbab islamic terrorists with kenya leading you into battle. if SANDF still has any army alive, we can then talk about soweto vs lagos

Mike..ZA:
Did you read what I was replying to? Answer this is: Is Nigeria battle hardened or not.

I thougth your few weeks absence from this forum would afford south african society enough time to install some herbal formula upgrades in your usually half empty coconut head.....but it didn't work out
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[uote author=fydence] I dont have anything to give you but my heart beats with National Pride when I read through ur posts, typing from wells of knowledge with facts and figures that are yet to be adequately responded to even after 855pages... I just logged in to say You @agaugust, have my deepest respects and the respects due to every true patriot especially the gallant men and women of the Nigerian Armed Forces who are bravely taking the fight to the doorsteps of the enemies and getting the Job done while other 'kangaroo militaries' occupy themselves with gossip and hate... I hope to learn alot about our military from the likes of you and Beegeagle...God bless The Federal Republic of Nigeria[/quote]Thank you big bros, I salute you !

Long live the federal republic of Nigeria, giant of Africa !

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Fighter Pilot: You can only hang the uniform of the people below. That's only how far you can go.

no, we dont hang those boko boys uniform, we k.ill them finally...shekau their leader is dead

i wont k.ill you @fighter pilot, if i do, who will i kick around like a football ?

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Fighter Pilot: This is an analysis from a palm wine tapper.

.... a smart palm wine tapper that hangs your south african air force officer uniform on a tree top

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