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Fighter Pilot: You must bring them down to Soweto so that we can test their skills.

you ran away from your chance to test your pilots in air to ground attack on seleka rebels, now you want to test skills against nigerian air force.

learn to walk before you try to run

Fighter Pilot: Your budget is so constrained such that it cannot utilise Alpha jets against BH.

The challenge that you had was that your pilots were so inexperienced that instead they bombed non-combat citizens.

nigerian pilots have been flying those same Alpha jets for the past 25 years, used in combat liberia, sierra leone, mali, and northern nigeria.

do you know the meaning of 'an inexperienced pilot' ? it means a Gripen jet pilot that has NEVER flown his Gripen jet for one single combat mission since the day his mother gave birth to him in soweto

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Fighter Pilot: Your budget is so constrained such that it cannot utilise Alpha jets against BH.

nigeria has about 60 jet fighters flying today, south africa has about 30 jets flying with the rest in a cold room freezer long storage, that is the meaning of budget constraint, you have the example right there inside soweto, you dont need to look up the meaning in a dictionary

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Fighter Pilot: Your budget is so constrained such that it cannot utilise Alpha jets against BH. You used them before with the intention of intimidating them with massive fire.

nigerian budget is constrained ? ....and Brazil paid us almost $10 Billion for our crude oil sales and we want to be nice to Brazil and buy hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Super Tucano 4th Generation light COIN warplanes.....with a constrained budget ?

i think some nigerian Super Tucano air to ground rockets have been fired into your brain spiritually even before the warplanes arrive lagos.

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Fighter Pilot: That is all lies my friend, HR has its own separate budget apart from that which is to maintain equipments. We have such a small well equiped military compared to your large poorly equiped military. I say again, your budget is just a drop in an ocean and will never run military equipments that SA have. You will only survive through second hand and by asking well industrialised countries to produce low-cost material for you.

nigerian military has many wisely selected, reasonable prices/costs, not cheap, yet not foolishly expensive weapons.

PL-9C is a $1 million missile
Super Tucano is a $15 million light warplane and American air force has 20 units too
BTR-3U is a high class infantry fighting armoured vehicle
SandCat MRAP is not cheap
Cobra APC is not cheap
Bofors F-77 Artillery is high class and many countries cannot afford it

nigerian air force ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft is NATO year 2013 standard and costs good money while your south african air force officers are falling down from the sky by flying your old and ancient cheap kobo kobo Dakota Coffin pangolo of sardine in the photo below just last year 2012 their families was still weeping on christmas day


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Fighter Pilot: I even wonder how is the Nigerian military faring with only half the SANDF budget, if it is facing such challenges. You want to rule Africa with such a small budget, smaller than that of ordinary municipalities in SA. All Nigerian military equipments are either second hand or low cost made specially to suit their small budget. Your country can never run SANDF, it will run dry before it could even think of it. Our national budget is four times larger than West Africa combined together. Shame on you!!

most of the money in south african huge military budget is used to pay fat monthly salaries to your fat belly coward soldiers who dont want to die in any war with seleka rebels by returning to bangui to fight and show power.

reason why south african air force cannot maintain its jets and helicopters .....most of the money is used to pay salaries

nigeria has extra-bugdetary provisions for military spending in a security vote model, and we dont restrict ourselves to paper budget for buying weapons.

nigeria buys low cost weapons that have high value combat capabilities, but south africa is not intelligent enough to do that since you have the second dullest brains on planet earth.

south africa buys high cost weapons that your cash level cannot maintain and use in war, they end up in cold freezer storage and useless.

read nigeria's new Super Tucano warplane infromation below, Low Cost + High Effectiveness = Wisdom & Power

this new naija warplane has very long range of 4,800km to reach south africa flying from nigeria....you fool

https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5187/5657710741_39426f91d0_z.jpg

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Fighter Pilot: I don't wish any country bad but the blunder you ever made was to let hundreds of SA companies 2 exploit your economy, because majority of this companies repatriate profit back 2 South Africa. Moreover, they have bought majority shares in Nigerias existing companies, including those of Dangote.

show me source to prove that there are hundreds of south african companies exploiting nigerian economy.

how does MTN, SASOL, STANBIC, and a few others about a dozen companies in all, equal to hundreds of companies in number ?

i hope mercenaries did not help you write exams to pass and obtain your university bachelors degree

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Thiza: @AUGUSTUS WHILE NIGERIA BUYS SOUTH AFRICA IS EXPORTING AND RAKING IN BILLIONS IN REVENUES AND MAYBE SOUTH AFRICA WOULD BE ARMING THE VERY SAME AIRCRAFT SINCE NIGERIA BOUGHT IT FROM BRASIL

the annual Dubai Air Show it was announced that the UAE Armed Forces has placed an order for the production of an undisclosed number of Tawazun Dynamics' Al Tariq precision-guided weapon systems at a total value of AED 1.8 billion (US$500 million). Manufactured by Tawazun Dynamics, a member of the Tawazun Group, Al Tariq is a family of strap-on bomb kit systems. Utilizing GPS/INS guidance, Al-Tariq provides users with an all-weather, day/night operational capability and has a range of up to 100km and is used against tactical and strategic targets.

The A-Darter advanced short-range air to air missile, in development as a partnership with Brazil. The UAE is already working to field the US’AIM-9X missiles for its F-16s, and fields MICA missiles on its Mirages, so it may not be interested.

The Ingwe beam-riding laser-guided anti-tank missile, which can be used by soldiers or fired from helicopters or vehicle mounts; Iraq is already a customer, equipping its EC635 scout helicopters.

The Umkhonto IR-guided short range naval anti-aircraft missile, which can also be deployed as a ground Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM).

Al-Tariq guided bomb is almost like the same Umbani guided bomb wearing a different look to attract Arab buyers with an Arabic name

South Africa does NOT manufacture and does NOT export any important heavy weapons launch platform or machine.

all the weapons that will save south african military in war are NOT made in south africa, they are all imported, get it ?

Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Type 209 Submarine, Olifant/Centurion Tank, Badger IFV, all imported European products, so remove these from your military and Angola will capture the whole of South Africa and become your new colonial masters

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Thiza: @AUGUSTUS BOTSWANA IS MAKING INROADS IN AVIATION HISTORY:

Botswana is actively looking to purchase South Korea's T-50 supersonic advanced trainer and its FA-50 light combat aircraft, the South Korean Defense Ministry said on 18 November 2013.

Botswana can become a threat to you South Africa, not to us in Nigeria. you should be the one that is worried about your neighbours buying jet fighters that can challenge your Gripen Jets and invade south african airspace while your only 6 Gripen jet pilots are drunk with koeldrank

Nigeria's new Super Tucano warplanes have 4,800km long range to reach every country in Africa including Egypt and South Africa

naija has just started, just wait and see more action as we re-arm our military to become Africa's best, overthrowing Egypt in the near future


[img]http://3.bp..com/-8V0bT_tJRIo/TZDqbpOqMFI/AAAAAAAAAsM/zJiQKFf_MiE/s1600/A-29+Super+Tucano++FAD-2904++++San+Isidro+++27-2-11.JPG[/img]

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imminent recall back into service after long term storage. nigerian navy to reactivate and upgrade Lynx Mk 89 type anti-submarine helicopters.
likely for new coming stealth warships and NNS Aradu. source : beegeagle blog

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[size=16pt]NAF ATR-42 Surveyor Maritime Patrol aircraft back from Europe.....

....fully re-loaded with new ELINT electronic warfare upgrade to NATO current standards[/size]


System Highlights

Very high Probability of Intercept (100% nominal)

Capability to operate in a very high density scenario without performance degradation

Full azimuth coverage (very accurate monopulse DF)

Very wide RF coverage, from UHF to K (C to J) band, optionally extendable to mmW

Detection of emitters with Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) characteristics

Detection and measurement of emitter side-lobes

High-quality real time signal analysis - including Modulation on Pulse - and automatic warning of high priority emitters

Fast and unambiguous emitter detection and radar identification

Capability to operate also with raw data libraries (mission data)

Accurate inter-pulse and intra-pulse ELINT analysis function, suitable for detection and measurement of complex emitter's agility (both in time
and frequency domain)

When activated, ELINT-type analysis is simultaneous with ESM surveillance and the two functions are non mutually interfering


http://beegeagle./2013/11/21/nigerian-navy-capital-asset-gains-the-2012-2013-epoch/

http://www.elettronica-elt-roma.com/index.php/en/avionic-eng/alr-7334

nigerian air force ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft....still ruling the African oceans from the air
[img]http://www.aleniaaermacchi.it/en-US/Media/Lists/PhotogalleryHomePageStructureList/ATR-03.jpg[/img]


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[size=16pt]nigerian navy to restore 3 anti-submarine helicopters[/size]

return of the Lynx submarine hunter and k.iller, with reactivation from storage, upgrading and modernization, the 3 Lynx helicopters of nigerian navy will likely be first posted on board the two coming brand new P18N/Type 056 Stealth Warship and NNS Aradu.

http://beegeagle./2013/11/21/nigerian-navy-capital-asset-gains-the-2012-2013-epoch/


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Lynx_helo_2.jpg

https://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/222110Lynx_MK89_1.jpg

https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5105/5629915419_67e2e88674_z.jpg


.....able to operate from cleared soil farm land with no air force base or airport available. rugged man Super Tucano of Nigeria, ruggedy baba !

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Nigerian Air Force buys new 4th generation COIN light multi-role warplane...A-29 Super Tucano


http://www.mydailynewswatchng.com/2013/11/28/nigeria-buy-tucano-planes-reduce-5bn-trade-deficit-brazil/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayk1bPNe4kM

sorry this is not a nigerian video, but it is a neutral one. this post could be removed if voted as irrelevant.


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chris365: [size=15pt] Nigeria military says bombed Boko Haram camps[/size]

Maiduguri — Air strikes on Boko Haram camps in northeast Nigeria have killed "many" insurgents, the military said Thursday of latest operation aimed at crushing the four-year Islamist uprising.

The bombardment last Sunday targeted the notorious Sambisa Forest area of Borno state, which is considered an extremist fiefdom and has become a key focus of the military's ongoing offensive.

News of the assault was slow to emerge as the mobile phone network in Borno remains switched off, part of the military strategy to hamper communication between the militants.

"Our men have identified and destroyed some camps of terrorists along the Sambisa area and the operation was a huge success," area army spokesman Mohammed Dole told journalists in Borno's capital Maiduguri.

"I cannot tell you the exact number of the terrorists killed but... many of them have been killed during the airstrike which we strongly believe was precise," he added.

A military source who requested anonymity told AFP that dozens of militants were likely to have been killed in the attack.

Sambisa area resident Bintu James, who spoke to reporters in Maiduguri, said "the airstrike started at night and raged on until Monday morning".

Nigeria's military has claimed a string of recent successes against Boko Haram in the northeast, the group's historic stronghold.

The government earlier this month extended the state of emergency in the area that was first imposed in May, giving the military added powers for six additional months to flush out or kill the rebel fighters.

Boko Haram launched its uprising against the Nigerian state in 2009 and has carried out attacks across northern and central Nigeria that have killed thousands.

[size=14pt]There is evidence that the military offensive has succeeded in cornering the militants in remote parts of the northeast, leaving them only capable of attacking soft targets.[/size]


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i6DNF8zHw5HUHbIRdCbYkwSs092w?docId=8ffd6a5f-13e7-4a2d-88f8-49adf0aa77a5


i purposely highlighted the last part for that dumb parrot @craigB to see. the fool that can't see beyond his nose and ends up running around in circles aimlessly to willfully derange himself

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the boko haram boys better surrender before NAF Super Tucano warplanes arrive, or else they face a worse air attack from the best COIN warplane in the world, nigeria will just use the boko boys to test fire all the weapons on our new A-29 Super Tucan Counter Insurgency master blaster aircraft.

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chris365: bros I heard the news as well. it will be a very good move as Brazil will be willing to transfer technology for us to maintain this beauty in Nigeria.

the US almost bought the jet but for some political reasons they had to back out to purchase from their own which is almost similar to the tucano. don't know if they finally bought some units sha.

America has purchased 20 Super Tucano combat aircraft for the USAF, they dont have any american aircraft in that class that can match the Brazilian Super Tucano

what America did was to insist the aircraft are locally assembled here in the U.S.A at Jacksonville city assembly plant and it is being done now, all 20 Super Tucano's will be delivered to USAF in 6 months time, by June 2014.

Nigeria has made a very wise choice again as a mature and experienced nation with smart decision making in weapons purchase after we learnt our lessons in the 1990s.

http://www.builtforthemission.com/news.php


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fydence: i love the look of the terminator combat helo the most...it looks meaner,.. I hope we get the Sukhoi Su-27 jet too.

the super tucano we just bought is as expensive as a fairly used SU-27 Flanker jet also costing the same price.

money is not nigeria's problem.

many people believe nigeria will go for JF-17 Thunder jet fighter instead SU-27 Flanker, sooner or later.

reason is that we now have a defence pact with china and pakistan who are building the JF-17 Thunder, and they are willing to transfer all the sophisticated technology of manufacturing the jets to nigeria 100% by taking us as the 3rd joint-venture ownership and development partner.

they are begging nigeria seriously to drag us into the deal, but NAF is slow and steady, looking at all ways to ensure we get what we want on our own favourable terms of agreement.

lets wait and see.

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souldust: I dont think we should buy more planes yet. We should spend time and money on developing our own 4th and 5th generation fighter. Even if it takes us 15 years to do it.

bros me, we no get choice o ! we must buy Brazilian weapons because Brazil has bought almost $10 billion worth of crude oil from Nigeria.

they are coming to invest Brazilian money in Nigerian Amebo III drones further advancement and upgrade in joint venture project for full scale production and international marketing of Nigerian drones.

just trying to balance the equation small small, make we no come they cheat our Brazilian brothers, we even collect U-17 world cup few weeks ago and Brazil dey for that tournament , them hand no touch the cup or see its shadow

abeg sir, na startegy o! we dey buy them weapons now, make them no too dey vex for the upper hand Nigeria is having over Brazil nowadays in almost everything.

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[size=16pt] year 2012 modern version A-29 Super Tucano signed purchase for nigerian airforce[/size]

http://www.mydailynewswatchng.com/2013/11/28/nigeria-buy-tucano-planes-reduce-5bn-trade-deficit-brazil/

Armament

Guns:

Internal: (2x) 12.7 mm (0.50 in) 950 rounds per minute FN Herstal M3P machine guns in wings.
pod: (1x) 20 mm (0.79 in) 650 rounds per minute GIAT M20A1 cannon below the fuselage.
pod: (1x) 12.7 mm (0.50 in) FN Herstal HMP for M3P machine gun.
pod: (4x) 7.62 mm (0.30 in) 3,000 rounds per minute Dillon Aero M134 Minigun (under development).
Hardpoints: 5 (two under each wing and one under fuselage centreline) with a capacity of 1,550 kg (3,300 lb)


Rockets:

(4x) pods 70 mm (2.75 in) LM-70/19, SBAT-70
(4x) pods 70 mm (2.75 in) LAU-68A/G


Missiles:

Air-to-air:
AIM-9L Sidewinder
MAA-1A Piranha
MAA-1B Piranha (under development)
Python 3
Python 4


Air-to-ground missiles:

AGM-65 Maverick
Delilah AL


Bombs:

General-purpose bombs:

(10x) Mk 81
(5x) Mk 82
M-117


Incendiary fire bombs:

BINC-300
Cluster bombs:
BLG-252


Precision-guided bombs:


FPG-82 (under development) Friuli Aeroespacial INS/GPS guidance kit for Mk 82.
SMKB-82[151] – INS/GPS guidance kit for Mk 82.
GBU-54 (under development)
GBU-38 (under development)
GBU-39 (under development)
Paveway II

Lizard – Elbit laser guidance kit.
Griffin – IAI laser guidance kit.
Others:
Chaff & Flare (countermeasures)
FLIR AN/AAQ-22 Star SAFIRE II (Electro-Optical/Infrared Sensors)


Avionics:


MIL-STD-1553 standards.
NVG ANVIS-9 (Night Vision)
CCIP / CCRP / CCIL / DTOS / LCOS / SSLC (Computerized Attack Modes)
R&S{RT} M3AR VHF/UHF airborne transceiver (two-way encrypted[161] Data Link provision)
HUD / HOTAS
HMD with UFCP(Up Front Control Panel)
Laser INS with GPS Navigational System.
CMFD(Colored Multi-Function Display) liquid crystal active matrix


Integrated Radio Communication and Navigation
Video Camera/Recorder
Automatic Pilot with embedded mission planning capability
Stormscope WX-1000E (Airborne weather mapping system)


Laser Range Finder
WiPak Support – (Wi-Fi integration for Paveway bombs).
Training and Operation Support System (TOSS).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano


https://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/large/000/346/346159.jpg


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NAF buys new 4th generation COIN light multi-role combat warplanes with......

.....very long range of 4,800 km flying to reach south africa !

NN to sign deal to restore, upgrade and modernize anti-submarine combat air power

NAF ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft re-loaded with extra NATO standard electronic equipment[/size]

more details, weblinks and photos to be posted tonight !

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[size=16pt] nigeria buys new 4th generation COIN light combat warplanes.....

enter the Super Tucano ![/size]


http://www.mydailynewswatchng.com/2013/11/28/nigeria-buy-tucano-planes-reduce-5bn-trade-deficit-brazil/


[img]http://2.bp..com/-yJK-zYzRYfQ/TwBXbh2eQXI/AAAAAAAAA7w/gqA1qvdcGjU/s1600/super+tucano+economidiando.jpg[/img]






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Nigerian Air Force Successfully Carries Out First In-Country Maintenance Of Fighter Jets


http://www.informationng.com/2013/09/nigerian-air-force-successfully-carries-out-first-in-country-maintenance-of-fighter-jets.html

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Fighter Pilot: Why are you now behaving like a stupid, everybody knows that Nigeria has 4 old scrapyard Mi-24's in their inventory. Now show us where is says Mi-35's were delivered. As for Gripens and Hawks, the whole world knows that SA has such machines because they are being seen frequently flying such machines even on the net you can google. .

Gunships are like mobile car, you place your order and buy them immidiately and will be delivered in a due course, unlike ships, aircraft carriers which will have to be build first.

i know what is paining you, the fake Umkhonto missile range of 80km you posted here that was proved wrong and fake by nigerians

next time you too must avoid fraudulent claims on this forum...nigerians are too smart for south africans

anyway, lets knock-out your envy inspired and above quoted nigerian helicopters false information again :

SIPRI ORG international arms database, United Nations arms sales log, IISS military balance database, all proves you totally wrong, nigeria has both second hand Mi-24 Hinds and brand new Mi-35 hinds, as well as armed assault Mi-171s Terminator combat helicopter, and armed Augusta AW 109 LUH combat helicopters, and all total numbers about 30 units combined.

the second hand helicopters have a different colur from the brand new ones.

http://beegeagle./2012/04/29/nigerian-air-force-nigerian-army-joint-opsa-new-mi-24v/

if your village herbalist is remote controlling your brain, be sincere enough to tell us, i will give you phone numbers of nigerian pastors that can pray to liberate your caged brain cells and restore you to a normal human being without charging any money.

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drag_on: Your ATR-42 is a maritime surveillance aircraft. You obviously dont know they are being fitted to become mini awacs.

South Africa has air superiority over Nigeria cause SAAF can deploy 12 fighter jets while some are still available for training and integrating new weapon systems. You only have 8 pilots

SAAF has an EW capability and Nigeria doesn't. presumption is the mother of all defeats.

How many F7 will be deployed at sea? None our ships have SLAAM. (Sea launched Anti Aircraft Missiles)

How many F7 will deployed at the field to intercept ground bombings by the SAAF Hawk lead in fighter?. Our trainers are light interceptors,they can deal with your Ground Attack jets.We might choose the Alpha jet instead it is superior to your hawks.

How many F7 will deployed to carry out air strikes on SA positions?. How many F7 will be deployed to carry out Recce missions?

Are we attacking or defending in your simulation?Make up your mind.

thanks for squeezing his b.alls till they begin to leak like broken eggs

nigerian navy has 35 units of BVR beyond visual range ASPIDE 75km range anti-aircraft missiles launched by NNS ARADU....enough to shoot down all the south african Gripen jets in 5 minutes.

NNS ARADU Aspide SAM is specially designed to delete enemy jet fighters before they can launch any stand-off weapons, and the ASpide is specially made to resist and defeat all enemy electronic counter measures and decoys


"The Aspide (Italian name of Vipera aspis) name is an Italian medium range air-to-air and surface-to-air missile produced by Selenia (now part of the Alenia consortium). It is provided with semi-active radar homing seeker. It is very similar to the American AIM-7 Sparrow, using the same airframe, but at the moment of its introduction, the Aspide was provided with monopulse guide instead of the conic scan, which made it more resistant to ECM and more precise."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspide

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Mike..ZA:
It is in our blood. In our rich military history. Our ancestors like warrior king Shaka Zulu, went to combat with lesser men that the enemy but came back to his kraal with more troops.

you have always complained that nigerian wars are not modern, i am surprised to see you now quoting south african zulu spear throwing war as your national war history proof of combat capability.

i have replied the few half/quarter sensible posts you made, the other posts show the same 2nd dullest brain the world you south africans have

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Mike..ZA:
Which hard fought battle was Nigeria involved in?. Show me any battle Nigeria was involved in and comparable to the battle of Cassinga.

the battle of Ore town between nigeria and biafra is one of the deadliest wars in african history.

google is your friend dude !

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/02/19/biafra-the-untold-story-of-nigerias-civil-war/

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Mike..ZA:
Who's protected between a crew operating the G6 and crew operating the Bofors? Never forgetting the G5. Your other artillery have the range of 29 km or lesser. Which guns can be easily spotted? You guess it right the Bofors!!! Nigeria can't fight South Africa in the opened African savannah. South Africa development nuclear weapons before Nigerians' evolved to have a brain. WE ALREADY HAVE A NUCLEAR POWER STATION!!!!

who's protecting the south african crew operating your own G5 artillery too ? both Bofors and G5 crew are exposed as towed howitzers.

nigerian equal to G6 Rhino is Palmaria, as both have full armour protection and 100% mobility.

the longest range of any south african army artillery is 39km according to the final authority of south african army itself on its official website.

nigerian bofors f-77 artillery range is 41km using the same type of base bleed that south africa is using for its G5 and G6 artillery guns.

we have posted sources to prove all the above, so dont take us backward.

people want new stuff on this thread and not repetitions, so i am posting nigeria's new weapons purchases for our air force today...new warplanes have been purchased for NAF and NN is restoring new anti-submarine weapons in modernization programme.

to be posted later today with national and international sources to prove it

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delvinmaya: @ mike..za, give it a rest will you?? You are starting to sound like a broken record. Think rather of ways to develop your country and deal with your shit, rather than obsess over someone else's shit

he has acute kolomental problems beyond medical understanding

Mike..ZA:
Which part of my comment is a lie. Only South Africa,Tanzania and Malawi are whopping butt. They're now repositioning/deploying to strike Sheka's rebels. NO SOLDIER!! I repeat NO soldier in the Nigerian army has ever been on the receiving end of the firing line of 122mm howitzer and T-55 MBT. NOT THIS IS MODERN TIMES.

your Gripen jet master and supplier Sweden has not been on receiving end of the firing line of a 122mm howitzer and T-55 tank in these modern times, so let south africa go fight Sweden and beat them in war.....go sign your own d.eath warrant like that

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Mike..ZA:
Tanzania took delivery of new J-7G. Read what the link says about OLD F7s. Are you still laughing Igbo boy!!! AGAIN MIKE..ZA is hitting your blue balls!!! LINK BELOW http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-32804/

i know that already.

all Tanzanian F-7 jets were delivered fully long ago, two years back in 2011, not just now.

F-7 jets dont fight alone, they need air to air missiles. show us the air to air missiles that Tanzania has on their F-7 jets.

nigerian airforce F-7 jets carry PL-9C ultra-modern 4th generation air to air missiles that costs $1 million per missile.

now show us what missile Tanzanian air force has for its F-7 jets, you think this is a police vs robbers thread ? ....fool

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