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Thiza: The first of 238 Badger infantry combat vehicle will roll off Denel’s production facilities in October 2015, rejuvenating the South African Army’s landward defence capabilities.

Badger armoured infantry combat vehicle is NOT a south african product, it is a product of Finland, remove the Finland owned vehicle and body, and show us how the south african small gun or your missiles you mount on it, will move,work, and fight on the road/battlefield by themselves

now dont steal Finland's glory and claim it for south africa, the europeans wont like you for that

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[size=16pt]nigeria remains the richest country in africa by natural mine-able resources [/size]


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Fighter Pilot: Did u even count how many unit of foreign weapons do we use. It does not even go beyond 100 units even of foreign missiles. All of over 20 000 of our military vehicle and tanks were produced locally. Small arms, Anti- air guns, Artillery, bombs, missiles, Helicopters, drones etc


Over 70% of our weapons are locally produced. Fact!!!

south africa does NOT have 20,000 military vehicles and tanks

go see your own SANDF army official website.

south africa has only about 190 tanks and only about 70 are active, the rest are dead metal junks or in cold freezer storage like your wingless and crippled Gripen jets

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Army

you are counting weapons and including transport vehicles ? you must really be the toy soldier i like to call you

nigeria too can count all those our army transport vehicles produces locally and then say we too produce 70% of our weapons locally.

now lets talk abou heavy weapons, real combat weapons.....

how many heavy weapons in south african air force and navy are produced locally in your over-rated country ?

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Fighter Pilot: I am employed in the military and I know well that over 70% of our weapon inventory are produced locally. Gripens, hawks, Type 209 subs, etc do not even make over 15% of our weapon inventory. We have only limited number of foreign weapons, for eg, three subs, 26 gripens, etc. Even our military magazine pride itself that we are some of the few forces in Africa to boast over 70% of locally made weapons manufactured by our defence industries. Don't let jealousy to cloud your judgement. I seldom carry foreign weapons and even throughout my basic training, I was never trained by foreign weapons. I rode SAM 20's, 50's, 100's, Mambas, Mfezi, Rattle and shot with R4's, MGLs, motars, etc, all which are locally produced. It is very scares that a SA foot soldier will encounter foreign weapons throughout his career. Foreign weapons are largerly operated at the advanced level in the navy and Airforce and the rest are proudly South African made weapons. We only keep limited number of foreign weapons and sometimes where possible they are used to temporarily close the gap until we come with something locally produced.

With regard to the badger, it is locally produced as we speak and will be modified a bit from the prototype. I have personally saw it on display in Pretoria. It will further be armed by SA made weapons.

With regard to Nigeria helping to free South Africa, those credentials are not exclusive to Nigeria, the whole world fought for South Africa. However, honour must go to the youth of SA in Soweto, who selflessly devoted their lives to fight for the people of South Africa. Nigeria had never even threw a single stone on the apartheid murderous police vans other than the people of SA themselves who were even neglected by the UN. Many countries are now claming false victories about the anti-apartheid war they never faught and in that regard, I respect CUBA and RUSSIA for bravely challenging the apartheid regime and even in the battlefield.

dont be silly mister man !

99% of south african air force and navy weapons are imported european made, jets/helicopters/warships/submarines/torpedoes/missiles.

so how do you say 70% of south african weapons are made in south africa ? are counting ordinary R-4 rifles one by one ?

okay nigeria too produces NR-1 rifles in hundreds of thousands, so 70% of nigerian weapons are made in nigeria.

http://beegeagle./2012/10/19/made-in-nigeria-nr-1-rifles-and-bullet-proof-vests/

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Zar.1.1:
the $2.5trillion is based on our platinum group of metals, which is not far from the platinum + palladium figure i gave.

Reserves composition (value):
91% Platinum (PGM)
6% Gold
2% Nickel
1% Iron ore

Years of production: 184
http://businessinsider.com/15-resource-rich-countries-2010-4?op=1

you think we are fools here ?

your much cherished source says south africa's mineral wealth is $2.5 trillion total and final, out of which platinum is $2.3 trillion

that means the other viable minerals are worth $0.2 trillion ($200 billion)....

"Of South Africa's $2 500bn worth of reserves, $2 300bn resides in the platinum group metals."

http://www.miningmx.com/news/markets/SA-richest-country-in-the-world.htm

i think most of the other funny minerals you quoted from some other funny sources are all speculations or unmarketable stuff, so you just want to scam us here

barawo banza !!!!

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NaijaPikinGidi: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Free-State-prison-hostage-drama-ends-20131003

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Even in prison crime never leaves the South African DNA.

Hahaha

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NaijaPikinGidi: It can only be fact when you present your proof! As usual you want to talk truth into falsehood ... I know better! Your criminal SA brothers are overflowing in your government run prions to the point you have privately run prison facilities to house your criminal kith and kin! The prison business is thriving in South Africa and foreign investors need to consider that sector of the South African economy! One of those Prison businesses is in your Free State province. Talk about being jailed in a so called Free State private maximum security prison! Prove your so called facts and I'll be happy to counter them with information from your SA Prisons and Correctional Services people. Game on?

South African R.apists alone are enough to fill up all their prisons, they will soon request UN help to transfer some Zulu and Xhosa criminals to European jails due to prison overflow in Mandela's kingdom .

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Motlalentoa: You're talking about one person (your friend) while the majority of your brothers are with SA women with very questionable pasts. FACT! You're welcome to deny it until you're blue in the face - zero fücks given. Only 5% of your kin are professionals while the rest are rogues. Another fact! SA women have abandoned who? Excuse me, Mister, before you do your victory lap do bear in mind that the ratio of women to men in SA is 4:1 - so if there's anybody feeling abandoned in SA its definitely not my brothers. I've been on this forum for a while now and I must say out of the many pathetic things you say nothing stands out more than the value you put on anything that's foreign (esp. women). Funny that you're the same person who always claim that South Africans are filled with HIV/AIDS yet you always jump at every opportunity to tell the world that your bros are with SA women. How slow are you? Smh! Oh well, guess anything will do even if its supposedly ravaged by disease just as long as it aint nigerian, right! Do continue with your military tales oo.

less than 1% of south african citizens are professionals, especially your blackmen koeldrank addicts whose destinies have been wasted by your boer white masters. Nigerians in south Africa are better than you all with 5% professionals .

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ZDee: The Nigeria Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) has accused President Goodluck Jonathan administration of marginalising Muslims in key appointments in institutions and engaging in systematic cleansing of Muslims from key positions of authority.

This is contained in a communiqué of the expanded General Purpose Committee (GPC) meeting of the council held last Wednesday in Abuja.

“The NSCIA is concerned over the disturbing trend of marginalising Muslims in key appointments in Federal Government institutions. Data available to the Council indicates a systematic cleansing of Muslims from key positions of authority. This is dangerous for a nation which should encourage harmony and unity based on equity, justice and respect for diversity and pluralism,” it said.

“Council also notes that admission into key military institutions such as Nigeria Defence Academy (NDA) and patterns of recruitment into police and other security agencies do not show sensitivity to balance and social indices such as faith. Muslims who are qualified should be admitted and trained on a scale that shows respect for a multi-religious nation such as Nigeria.”

The communiqué was signed by Muhammad K. Qasim, the acting Director of Publicity.

On the raging controversy on the usage of Hijab by Muslim female students and workers, the council said, “The Constitution guarantees to every Nigerian the freedom of worship and religious practice. Appropriate Muslim dressing for women in all public engagements and outings is a mandatory requirement for Muslims. Governments and other institutions which deny Muslim females their right to dress appropriately such as wearing of hijab with uniforms are therefore in violation of the rights of the Nigerian Muslims.

“Council calls on the Federal and State Governments and all other private and public institutions to stop the policy of depriving Muslim women of their rights to dress in accordance with the demands of their faith.”

While noting that President Goodluck Jonathan has welcomed the recommendation of the Committee on Dialogue and Peaceful Resolution of Security Challenges in the North that the Federal Government should set up mechanism for providing appropriate relief to all victims of the Boko Haram insurgency, the council urges the President to expedite action towards establishing such a mechanism so that the much-needed relief can be made available to all those who deserve it.

The council also noted that the National Educational Research and Development Council’s (NERDC’s) new curriculum from primary to secondary school which has deprived young Nigerians of their rights to receive full and mandatory religious education is a major failing by all governments and is unacceptable.

It urged that children must be availed full opportunities to receive religious instruction and training until at least the end of Senior Secondary School.

“The new curriculum which relegates Islamic Studies/ Christian Religious Studies (IS/CRS) to a part of a subject (up to Junior Secondary School) and which made the subjects optional at the Senior Secondary level be reversed so that the two are made independent, core and compulsory up to the Senior Secondary level,” it said.

Source: http://dailytrust.info/index.php/news/10359-council-accuses-jonathan-of-cleansing-muslims-from-army-govt

90% of the criminals in south African jails are south African citizens like you so what's your point ?

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Motlalentoa: Scamming, pimping, drug & human trafficking, turning whores into housewives, etc - "hardworkers" indeed!

there are nigerian medical doctors, nurses, medical laboratory technologists, lawyers, accountants, etc working and doing professional business in south africa.....and they wont marry your prostitutes, my nigerian male doctor friend is married to a beautiful south african female university graduate....

we srew your women so hard they abandoned and shiboboed south african men, the thing dey pain you

http://www.ndf-sa.org/

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Fighter Pilot: There is nobody who had ever over-rated our military. You are indeed suffering from inferiority complex. Are we by any way over-rating our military when we claim that we are the only military in Africa to use over 70% of locally produced weapons. We have never claim that we are Rambo's of Africa and all that we are proud of is our locally produced weapons, that's all!!!

With regard to Nigeria as a senior brother, I hope it was the one which was suppose to look out for South Africa and its people, but instead is a junior brother (SA) which look out for his senior brother (Nigeria) and its refugees who reside in SA. Our companies in Nigeria have provided jobs for many Nigerians, including our government which has offered jobs to many Nigerians in Education (secondary n tertiary), Health and Banking sector. Is this not a hypocrisy that a younger brother is looking after an older brother.

go back and see pages 1 to 12 of this forum and see how south africans claimed they have the most powerful military in africa.

where to you put the mighty military forces of egypt, nigeria, ethiopia ?

i stood up for the truth on this military ranking issue, i hate people deceiving other people and misleading them with false information.

south africa does NOT produce 70% of its weapons, i have repeated a post on that am i am tired. only about 10% of your heavy weapons are home made. you imported, Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Agusta Helicopters, Lynx helicopters, Centurion/Olifant tank, Rooivalk helicopter engine, Type 209 submarines, Valour frigate warships, Puma/Oryx helicopters, Hercules C-130 aircraft, Dakota aircraft, Badger Armoured fighting vehicles, Exocet missiles, Milan missiles, Starstreak missiles.....you want me to continue this list ? it is very long

nigerians are not refugees in south africa. your people are lazy and our own hardworking people came to take over your jobs and marry your women right in front of your wide open eyes....we have partially taken over your country and you are too blind to see it

nigeria as big brother fought against apartheid to free south africa from the anglo whites and boer white master's prison yard...say thank you to us

nigeria gave business opportunities to many south african companies as a favour, we could have given MTN, SASOL, STANBIC BANK and other contracts/deals to chinese, indian and korean companies, we just showed you we are your senior brothers.

can south africa give MTN 50 million customers ?

now kneel down and say sorry to your senior brother the giant of africa for the rubbish you posted above !

https://0901.static.prezi.com/preview/opps4hr7fvhvllwmutogkezme4adw6rhlm5vs2oll757hbaoaxlq_0_0.png

Zar1.0:
Pls, anybody who disagrees with the figures I've provided here should tell me.

i disagree.

the total value in trillions from your many posts have exceeded the $2.5 trillion that you and @fighter pilot posted yesterday from your trusted american source gave as south africa's total mineral wealth that made her 'number one' in the world.

now who is fooling who ?

Fighter Pilot: In terms of research conducted by citigroup (2010), which is the most recent, countries around the world which had potential of mineral wealth were selected and the investigation ensued to find out which of those countries had the most reserves. South Africa against all odds was objectively found out to be the richest country in the world by anallytical research (http://www.npconline.co.za/pebble.asp?relid=163) and the most sound one to indulge in is this one :

SA 'richest' country in the world

South Africa is the world's richest country in terms of its mineral reserves - worth $2.5 thousand billion ($2.5 trillion) -

according to research by the American banking group Citigroup, reports Bloomberg.

http://www.miningmx.com/news/markets/SA-richest-country-in-the-world.htm

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if i complain again now, you will say i hate south africa, but like the legs of a lame man, your words are never balanced

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Zeus_Ayo: Lol plZ ☺̣̣̥̇ A̶̲̥̅̊М̤̣̲̣̥̈̇ not yet 18 ℓ̊ dnt tink ℓ̊ wld be mentally fit Ƒợ̣̣̝̇̇̇я̣̣̥ NigeriA

okay brother...or sister ?

Jihaljihad: If I may put my few cents of comments in I must say I totally dissagree with this notion. This is typical of us africans blaming europe and others for the inherent african desease we have in our own leaders who only looks at there own pockets rather then the population.

Why do africa need westerners for technology transfer to build simple infrastructure like roads sanitation, what technology do you need for those.

What developmental knowledge did the Europeans had to share with africa after independence, please explain brother. Nigeria and 95% of of the continent received its independence in the same time period as nations like Malaysia, Singapore and others, where are those asian nations today or are you telling me the fathers of civilisation cant be innovative and create there own. Why didnt african nations withheld there mineral resources and human capital after there independence and looked in worth for solutions why, why did the so called independence leaders who fought for so called independence turned back to there masters and sell our resources to develop the West and now China, India and Russia.

I do not wanna talk about South Africa but, they chose a path of development not civil wars and corruption to gain power like the rest of africa. The whites in South Africa chose SA as there homeland the same as the Portuguese, French and Belgians chose Brazil and Canada developing it into a stable democracy.

Nigeria for all its human capital and resource should be a $1,5trillion economy like Brazil and Mexico, instead its so called leaders like ours in Egypt took power by military force for decades and is know arguing with South Africans with a 55m population on who is better.



Can you kindly go read Nigeria's and africa's history after colonialism including the failures of us civil society for not being active and responsive to hold our "leaders" accountable. It seems ignorance is bliss

your logic is right but your history is wrong.

why did Britain and Switzerland accept to hide about $300 billion stolen Nigerian oil money in their banks ?

The thief and the man keeping his stolen goods are both thieves.

same way Britain connived with Ghana's past leaders to loot all their gold to Europe, Ghana's former name was Gold Coast, where is the wealth now ?

the Europeans could not loot South African wealth during apartheid white leadership because their white brothers were in power then, but now see South Africa swimming in bribery and corruption like other balck african countries...Sweden is looting them

south african politicians were bribes by Sweden's SAAB to buy Gripen jets they do not need.

http://mg.co.za/article/2010-09-09-saab-charged-over-sale-of-gripens-to-sa

there corruption stories about the south african Hawk jets and Type 209 submarine purchases too

http://www.iol.co.za/mercury/corruption-under-anc-s-watch-destroying-sa-1.1592811#.Uoq3s8TOkiU

50% of south african citizens now pay a bribe for necessary services.

http://learningenglish.voanews.com/content/fighting-corruption-in-south-africa-johannesburg-reporters-notebook/1787115.html

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Zeus_Ayo: The only way out of our miseries I̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ Africa is Ą massive industrial revolution Ѧп̥̥̲̣̣̣̥∂ total dependence on our selves let's revive the african union because if the african union has Ą say on the well being of both the economy Ѧп̥̥̲̣̣̣̥∂ the people of the african continent then ℓ̊ think D̶̲̥̅̊ skies would JƱڪτ̲̅ be our beggining.

Contest election in 2015 and I promise to vote for you. You know the way forward for Nigeria and Africa. Only massive industrialization can save us....look at China today !

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Fighter Pilot: We are indeed living in a country which is surrounded by mining plants everywhere. I pass many of such plants when I am driving around.

I said put the south African gold or minerals from those mines as fuel into the petrol tank of your car and try driving around.

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Zeus_Ayo: dude ℓ̊ totally agree with you on Τ̲̣̣̥​н̲̣̣̣̥​ı̣̣̣​ƨ̣̣̣̇̇̇̇​ one Nigeria as it is, is Ą result of what we Nigerians call wuru wuru †̥ the answer. Assuming our colonial admins had foresight Ѧп̥̥̲̣̣̣̥∂ common sense then the geo political zones of nigeria should be individual countries. Cultural diversity is Nigerias Achilles heel because each tribe does not want †̥ be dominated by the other Ѧп̥̥̲̣̣̣̥∂ Ą perfect example is the feud going on about the hausas disaproval of jonathan contesting Ƒợ̣̣̝̇̇̇я̣̣̥ the 2015 elections. Assuming it was Ą one tribe country, that wouldn't be the case cos they all speak the same mother tongue Ѧп̥̥̲̣̣̣̥∂ D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲ all have Ą cultural similarity so the case of one section dominating the other wouldn't come Up.

yes, the British deliberately fixed up Nigeria in a bad way so that tribal issues will always boil and heat up the country. We Nigerians have been working for many years to solve the problem Britain forced us into....we will overcome at last, even America passed through its own civil war after her independence from the British who ruled America.

Nigeria is rising....slowly but steadily.

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south africa launches satellite cube of sugar into space this week november 21

see that man pointing finger and asking..."na wetin be dis ? "

https://www.westerncape.gov.za/110green/sites/green.westerncape.gov.za/files/gallery/Picture5_0.jpg
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Fighter Pilot: South Africa to lauch their third satelite this month of November.

http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/6feb8c00415879a38b87bf93343a19ea/South-Africa-to-launch-third-satellite-into-space-next-month-20130510

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2013-10/06/content_17010653.htm

Fighter Pilot: ZACUBE-1 ready to be lauched in Russia at 09:10 on the 21 November 2013.

http://www.southafrica.info/about/science/nanosatellite-141113.htm

did you read your own source ?

error number one, south africa has NO satellite as at today ? so how does it launch a third one to join the other two that dont exist ?

the first south african satelliete of 1999 is long dead expired and lost. the last south african satelliete expired on september 17th 2012 and is s dead piece of junk floating about in space

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SumbandilaSat

now the new one is NOT a real satellite, read your own source and laugh at south africa's tiny cube of st.louis sugar

DETAILS :

"launch of South Africa's first cube satellite, ZACUBE-1, from the Yasny base in Russia at 09:10 South African time on 21 November, 2013 "

"Running on the same amount of power as a five-watt bulb, ZACUBE-1 will orbit Earth, but it is about 100 times smaller than Sputnik, the first satellite launched into space in 1957"


the thing is like a tiny cube of sugar

"The cube satellite is a single unit carrying a space weather experiment to provide space weather data to South African National Space Agency "

my friend, please go hide that your satellite that i can carry inside my bag going to the office, and it is a weather report experimental satellite that can NOT have any military combat use .

see the thing on top of a table so, i can even use this tiny south african cube of sugar to soak and drink my gari

photo below

SOURCE :

http://www.southafrica.info/about/science/nanosatellite-141113.htm#.UojTLsTOkiV

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ZZar: The metal mineral values are based on 2010 prices, the price of gold has gone up by more than 100% since than. Nigeria doesn't have any significant metal minerals to mine, while SA has the top shale gas and coal reserves in the world.

add up value of all the metal, plastic, gas, powder, visible and invisible mineral resources or natural resources that can be mined in south africa, it does NOT get close to nigeria's $30 trillion dollars natural resource wealth. let that sink into your coconut head

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Fighter Pilot: Intelligence and strategy all boil down to the tools that do the job, which are weapons, weapons, weapons. You can be as intelligent and strategic as you can but without an efficient and effective weapon, you are as defeated as the devil in heaven.

south african weapons are grounded, too few in number, and over-rated i actual capacity

we recently proved your 73km range artillery shells do NOT exist in your army's armoury, the best south african army artillery range is only 39km

120 artilleries, 6 qualified Gripen jet pilots, 1 air to air missile per jet fighter, 3 anti-ship missiles per valour frigate, 11 helicopter gunships....no wonder it was a major achievement to be counted behind tanzania in the war riot against M23 rebels of Congo DRC

Fighter Pilot: From this post which you have just posted I could clearly see that your highest attained qualification can never go beyond high school. South Africa has been proven ages ago through research to have more mineral potential than Nigeria. Let us not even speak of Nigeria because it does not even come any close. Most minerals found in Nigeria are just only traces and can never be mined on the large scale, ever asked yourself why investors are not even interested, because the cost of mining those traces of mineral will be more than the minerals per se. Americans and British left their homes ages ago to come to South Africa brought by most expensive minerals in the world, that is gold, diamonds and platinum. According, to research there is no gold, diamonds and platinum in the world which has more value than those you get in South Africa.

In terms of research conducted by citigroup (2010), which is the most recent, countries around the world which had potential of mineral wealth were selected and the investigation ensued to findout which of those countries had the most reserves. South Africa against all odds was objectively found out to be the richest country in the world by analytical research (http://www.npconline.co.za/pebble.asp?relid=163) and the most sound one to indulge in is this one

http://www.miningmx.com/news/markets/SA-richest-country-in-the-world.htm

my friend, are you blind , deaf and dumb at the same time ?

can't you read your own source ? only metal minerals are mentioned in that source, NO oil and gas mentioned.

only a fool will say south africa is richer than saudi arabia, kuwait, nigeria, iran, iraq, libya, etc.

okay if you say minerals in the technical sense by excluding oil and gas.

then we will say natural resources wealth extracted by mining, so oil and gas being hydrocarbons will be counted.

so in terms of all natural resources that are mined, NIGERIA IS THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN AFRICA, fact !!!!

south africa has $2.5 trillion mineral wealth according to your sources of expert researchers and university professors.

OPEC world respected data says nigeria has 40 billion barrels of crude oil reserves, multiply it by the $100 per barrel price of oil and you get $4 trillion for nigeria, that already beats south africa's $2.5 trillion metallic mineral wealth.

now go to OPEC website and add nigerian gas and bitumen reserves which are many times more than our crude oil, then go to nigerian solid minerals official government website and add our metallic minerals like iron ore, coal, uranium, and you see how nigeria will dwarf south africa like an elephant will dwarf a goat

Fighter Pilot: Satellites do not win the war, sophisticated weapons do. Satellites are very slow and you cannot watch any area on land anytime you want to. They are all channeled to orbit the earth from North to South and once it passes the target it cannot go back since it will collide with other thousand satellites in space, including junks. They take long to download pictures and are only good to be used as a research tool, because you cannot used them on a real time war zone. Drones are more efficient than satellites since they are able to defend themselves against fighter jets and can even go on the same spot over and over again. There is no any pilot who would ever risk his life fighting robots with an expensive machine. Drones have the potential to destroy fighter jets in a dog fight. More and more miniature-version of missiles ranging from AAM and ATGM are designed to arm this new technology.

no you are lost behind time and modern technology.

now take corrections for your many errors

only 3 standard satellites are needed to monitor the whole earth at once from their different orbital positions, they cover the earth's surface and the user gets images and reports equal to real time.

even if a country has only one satellite, it goes around the earth many times in a day, and it will get you images around the globe in a few hours or days depending on its altitude in space.

there is no way south african military will marshal a large force and remain hidden from enemy spy satellite imaging. Britain and Argentian used satellites to get advantage over each other in 1982 falklands war. they could see each others navy warships and masses of army troops and equipment on ground, then they plan attacks or counter attacks.

you fly a drone to spy a country like ordinary Kenya, the drone gets shot down immediately.

a nigerian satellite can photograph a bicycle parked at the door of a house in johannesburg, they are that powerful.

the quickest way to lose a war is to be seen by your enemy while you cannot see him.

south african army did not see seleka rebels massing 2,500 men against them, because you have no satellites in pretoria, then you become a blind bat army of soweto republic, and get k.illed without any notice

nigerian army can stay in a CAR bangui city, fix in satellite GPS earth optical receivers/tarnsmitters at city major roads and in a circle around our troops position, and watsh Seleka rebels before they come, then we knwo our enemy's movements. south africa CANNOT fight war at that level. FACT !!!

satellites dont orbit north to south, they orbit east to west, the english word orbit means moving around in a circle from side to side, not up and down

satellites hardly ever collide with each other, very very rare, or else why do we still have thousands of satellites working well in space today ? you think outer space in the universe is the same size as your country south africa ? your geography text book was stolen while you were sleeping

drones need fuel to fly, satellites dont. drones fly for hours and run out of fuel, satellites orbit for 24 hours everyday. drones can be shot down by anti-aircraft defences, satellites cannot be shot down.

nigeria used our satellites to spy on and image an american airport 10,000km away from lagos, i posted that weblink source and image here months ago, and america could not stop us from getting that image and photo. now you fly a south african drone to america and take photos of an american airport 10,000km away from soweto and let us see what will happen to your country and your drone

NaijaPikinGidi: Another article for all it's worth.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201311151235.html?viewall=1

nigerian military is not like that of south africa that takes orders from a tanzanian commander.

even a tanzanian army general will be afraid to open his mouth and command a nigerian army colonel.

shoe get size. leather get category. car get class.

a wolf will not give marching orders to a lion.

PatriotZAR: Top 3 Militaries in Africa

1. Egypt - A capable and big military(to keep up with its foe, Israel) with sophisticated weaponry ranging from mostly Eastern and Western Europe. It has a Great Air Force, Good Army and Fair Navy.

2. South Africa - A small but highly trained and capable Military backed up by a very good indigenous military Industrial Complex. Over 70% of the equipment is home-made and of an international standard. It has a Great Army, Good Air Force and Great Navy - The only Navy in Africa with a Blue Naval Status.

3. Ethiopia - Has a high number of Army personnel( In proportion to it's poor economy) but nonetheless the Army is very experienced. It has no Navy because it is now a landlocked country but has a good air force.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/JOINT/Flags/sa_flag.jpg


please correct your many errors

pages 1 to 845 of this thread has opened up details all the major african military powers in great depth that far superior to any other source in the world, not even Janes Defence Magazine, IISS, United Nations Arms Sales Log, SIPRI weapons database, or CIA factbook, no, not even one of the world class sources can match the military information on african countries that you will find on this thread.

you came very late, but i will help you with a summary.

Egypt's navy is not just fair, as good as that of South Africa, Algeria, and Nigeria.

Egypt's navy has 321 warships and crafts far more than South African navy's 40 warships and crafts

Egyptian navy has 6 submarines including the same Type 209 submarines as south africa that has 3 submarines

Egyptian navy has about 400 anti-ship missiles with range of over 200km, but south africa has only about 13 anti-ship missiles with range of only 70km.

Egyptian navy will sink the whole South African navy to sea bottom in one day.

So how did you say south africa has the only blue water navy in africa ? are you sick or drunk ?

what of Egypt's navy ? what of Algerian navy with Valour frigates same as south africa and Algeria has Russian submarines. what of Morocco's navy that has FREMM Frigate the most powerful warship in africa bigger and more powerful than south african valour frigates ? what of nigerian navy that has 40 Otomat anti-ship missiles on NNS ARADU a huge frigate once the most powerful in africa ?

about 7 african countries have a blue water navy, NOT only south africa. stop misinforming people and deluding yourself in delusion

ALL, i mean ALL south african major weapons that can win a war for you, are NOT made in south africa, they are all imported from Europe :

Gripen jet is made in Sweden
Hawk jet is made in Britain
Rooivalk helicopter engine is made in France
Super Lynx helicopter is made in Britain/Italy
Hercules C-130 aircraft is made in U.S.A
Augusta A109 helicopter is a product of Italy
Dakota aircraft is made in Britain/U.S.A
Olifant tank is the Centurion tank made in Britain
Badger Armoured vehicle is a product of Finland
Valour frigate warships are made in Germany
Type 209 Submarines are made in Germany

so now tell us how south african military can fight any war without all these imported European weapons ?

south african defense industry may be trying some small weapons, but it is NOT strong enough to make you number two military power in africa.

now to south african army. 50,000 soldiers is too small, if you fight algeria, nigeria, ethiopia that have 150,000 to 200,000 battle tested and experienced soldiers, they will just surround and encircle south africa's tiny inexperienced army of HIV infected ANC bushmen rebels recruited into your army to replace the better white south african soldiers who have now retired, resigned, and walked away with their experience and skills, thus making south african army very weak, cowardly and afraid to die in war, only happy to collect monthly salaries from army accounts department.

reason why south african army union had no courage of men to go back to C.A.R and defeat Seleka rebels that used SANDF paratroopers for shooting practice in march this year.

more reason why south african army is hiding behind tanzanian army for leadership and protection in Congo DRC war with ordinary M23 rebels.

south african air force Gripen jets have only 6 qualified pilots, only one missile each per aircraft, and about half of the Gripen jets are in long term cold storage with many missing spare parts used to service the few that are flying. all Augusta AW109 helicopters are grounded and unable to fly.

south african military is number 5 in africa, behind egypt, nigeria, algeria, ethiopia. FACT !!!

http://www.newstatesman.com/international-politics/2013/07/south-africas-military-meltdown

sorry bros, this is nairaland military thread of nigeria, a forum where nigerians challenge world military experts and source to prove them wrong where necessary. we dont respect any information unless we find it true and factual. thanks sir.

welcome to our world.....power of Naija, giant of Africa !

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PatriotZAR: Top 3 Militaries in Africa

1. Egypt - A capable and big military(to keep up with its foe, Israel) with sophisticated weaponry ranging from mostly Eastern and Western Europe. It has a Great Air Force, Good Army and Fair Navy.

2. South Africa - A small but highly trained and capable Military backed up by a very good indigenous military Industrial Complex. Over 70% of the equipment is home-made and of an international standard. It has a Great Army, Good Air Force and Great Navy - The only Navy in Africa with a Blue Naval Status.

3. Ethiopia - Has a high number of Army personnel( In proportion to it's poor economy) but nonetheless the Army is very experienced. It has no Navy because it is now a landlocked country but has a good air force.

[size=16pt]Top Ten Military Powers Of Africa Ranked In Order Of Overall Strength[/size]


(1) EGYPT

(2) NIGERIA

(3) ALGERIA

(4) ETHIOPIA

(5) SUDAN / SOUTH AFRICA / MOROCCO / UGANDA

(6) ERITREA / ANGOLA

south africa does NOT even have a single satellite to spy the enemy from space, nigerian space spy satellites will see all south african, egyptian and algerian military forces from a very long distance and plan/execute a deadly counter attack to wipe them out from existence , they wont even know how nigerian weapons h.it them.


nigerian army is watching jacob zuma and his four wives in their home's swimming pool by the power of nigerian military satellites spying from space.


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SU-37fighter.:
Idiott.
Even the oil itself is small compared to our gas and bitumen deposits.
We have 3times more gas than oil,and over 2times more bitumen than oil.
We've the largest deposits of bitumen in the world in ondo state,Nigeria!!
And unlike southafrica,we've not even began to mine our enormous solid mineral resources.
All these facts are verifiable online.

nice one !

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video of the 3 sea drones nigerian navy has or is said to have paid for since 2006....where are they ? NNS Pathfinder ?


SOURCE : http://www.navaldrones.com/Seastar.html



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