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i couldnt help but borrow this from another thread....gives you an idea of a nigerian soldier vs a south african soldier, one man, one rifle one bullet each....ask them to use their brains to hunt down each other in a bush and we all know who will get k.illed

[quote author=Ricky_Ross]There are rich and poor people from all over the world. I have been to SA 3 times and I know for a fact there are still homes in SA without electricity etc. No matter what we do there must be poor people in our midst. Jews are said to be the richest people on earth yet there are still Jews that struggle to eat daily. As rich as America is, there are great number of Americans that cannot feed themselves and they resort to food stamps etc.

However, South Africa is far more developed than Nigeria, but it is so because of the WHITE MAN. Remove the white men and South Africa will be like Tanzania at best.

The best things in SA is owned and enjoyed by whites. Not long ago you lots were regarded as monkeysz by your white masters, you people were not allowed to go to good schools, you dont dare step into white men restaurants, hotels etc. I know the role my country Nigeria played together with other country's to set you free.

As rich as SA is, most black South Africans are still poor and confused souls. That is why they get jealous and envious each time they see Nigerians living large. If Nigerians were given the same opportunity you have in SA by now we would be producing jets and rockets. With the types of world class schools and stuff u have in SA you guys are still dumber than dumb. A Nigerian school dropout is far more intelligent than you black South African, FACT...[/quote]https://images.wikia.com/clancod/images/c/cd/Soldier_rifle_firing_bullet_shell_smoking.jpg

Nobleval: Based on a survey i read years ago from focus on Africa but which should be outdated by now- S Africa has the best equipped and most sophisticated army. Angola has the most experienced army,thanks to UNITA. Zimbabwe has the most disciplined army. Nigeria has the largest army or should i say HAD! The most professional went to either Egypt or Algeria, i forget. I'd give it to S africa any day. Did you know that for the right price, you can hire even fighter jets for mercenary purposes from Sa lies!

since your comment confesses that the information contained therein is outdated, I don't have much to say.

The most current ranking of South African military power was measured out to them by Seleka teenage/kid rebels of Central African Republic, thus updating South African Army as the most cowardly and fastest retreating army in Africa as at today November 22nd 2013.

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First Female Combatant Pilot In The Nigerian Air Force

rka1: Because some people don't like to see other countries making advances.

the south africans pray every day that the rest of africa will be bush-village-jungle, while their country alone will be civilized.

soweto fools

Jihaljihad: Why are guys always fighting

....because the south africans say foolish things .....they say they have the strongest military in africa, and their army is afraid to go back to central african republic and defeat seleka rebels that disgraced them in battle, instead they choose to come here and post photos of their shiny painted weapons as if weapons fight alone without any soldier operating them.

ethiopian army alone will turn south african army into a piece of pancake .

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Jihaljihad: Hi there if I may put my 2cents in, Egypt has both hinds and Apaches and ive seen both in airshows but I must concur that the Roivalk is a better flying mission then both the apache and hinds the only issue with the Roivalk is that it has a shorter radar but from what ive read is that it has a lower radar signature then both Hind and Apache so it is in all aspects equal.

The Apache does have more flying hours in combat so the verdict is still out on the Roivalk.

Hind, Rooivalk, Apaches are 3 different helicopters built to achieve different military objectives by 3 different countries.

Hind is multi-role combat, transport and ambulance modular helicopter. the Rooivalk and Apache are NOT modular multi-role.

i think we should not compare a ferrari sports car to a toyota 4Runner SUV, they are built for different purposes.

Hind helicopter when armed with its 48km radar and 40km beyond visual range R-73 air to air missile will shoot down most air force jet fighters in africa.

my vote is for the battle tested Hind with the best combat history in the world for any helicopter gunship in modern times.

also, there are many different versions of the Hind, and some of them will shock you when you see the mission suites and capabilities equal to a Rooivalk or Apache.

Hind has fought about 30 different big wars all over the world including iran vs iraq, yugoslavia vs kosovo, ethiopia vs eritrea, russia vs afghanistan....and too many others

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24

Rooivalk is a zero in that area. weapons show their hidden weakness when real war comes.

a fully upgraded Hind helicopter is king of all.

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chris365: so why isn't any country interested

because Rooivalk is bad market

DictatorZAR: Fool i've done that before when your resident yahoo boy told us its a frigate. I posted the specs of both SAN frigates and the Type056 here before so buzz of I dont waste my time with dummies.

you can never have the correct specs of the nigerian navy new Type 056 warship, it have been heavily modified to become P18N warship, bigger and more sophisticated than the chinese version.

nigerian navy now changed the radar from chinese to european as i posted, and many electronics will be changed, mixture from europe and asia.

the navy has not yet full decided on all our stealth warships hardware/software/weapons mix.

even senior nigerian navy officers do not have the warship's specs, so how did you get it ? you consulted herbalist's oracle ?

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DictatorZAR: Did you read ofshore patrol vessel not suitable for deep water naval engagements its a OPV do come now and claim again with your lies its a frigate

it is a 1,800 ton Nigerian warship. the British and Dutch Boer warships that traveled from Europe to South Africa 200 years ago in year 1815 were just about 500 tons and they sailed the ocean 10,000 km away to defeat and rule over your grandfathers lands in soweto

Israel has an OPV warship 3 times smaller in weight than that of nigeria and they carry 8 anti-ahip missiles with 200km combat range that will sink all south african valour frigates from a long distance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa'ar_4.5-class_missile_boat

that nigerian OPV is modular technology with multi-role status to switch roles from OPV to corvette to light frigate.

the most modern warship in africa, next only to Morocco's FREMM Frigate but potentially more d.eadly in missile power.

now go kiss a cockroach in your toilet....she loves you

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Z3tdee: Denel and Tawazun win R5 billion missile contract from UAE

Written by defenceWeb, Thursday, 21 November 2013

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/LAND/Al-Tariq_400x300.jpg

Tawazun Dynamics, the joint venture company created by Denel and Tawazun, has been awarded a R5 billion contract from the United Arab Emirates Air Force for precision guided munitions (PGMs) for its Mirage 2000-9 fighters.

The fighter jets will receive the Tawazun Dynamics developed Al Tariq bomb guidance kit, it was announced at the Dubai Air Show yesterday. Denel Group CEO Riaz Saloojee said the order demonstrates Denel’s global competence in designing world-class precision-guided munitions and missile systems.

Tawazun Dynamics is 51% owned by Tawazun Holdings and 49% by Denel.
Tawazun Holdings is a strategic investment holding company focused on defence and specialised manufacturing, owned by the Government of Abu Dhabi.

Denel said the joint venture with Tawazun provides Denel with an important foothold in a strategically important region. In terms of its new marketing strategy, Denel is focusing on entering new markets in Africa, the Middle East, the Asia-Pacific Region and Latin America.

http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32761:denel-and-tawazun-win-r5-billion-missile-contract-from-uae&catid=48:defence-technology&Itemid=109

since DENEL got cash broke, it turned to the arab nations for help with some oil money, i thought you guys said gold is better than oil, so why are you now hungry for arab oil aid and salvation for DENEL ?

anyway, guided bombs are just useless against a national army that has modern anti-aircraft guns like nigeria, they just shoot down the slow snail speed bombs.....an expensive way to waste money.....and shiny DENEL paint

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Z3tdee: Well that's what i wrote, I could have given that link, but gave the original source that article is based on. Did you read any of the links i provided? So chromite/ferrochrome and manganese are funny minerals, I left out vanandium, rhodium, iron ore, nickel, iridium, copper, ruthenium and other germs which we're also a major producer of.
Do you believe that our 40 000 ton gold reserves are worth less than 600billion dollars?

You think that the USGS and mbendi are funny sources, again read the sources I gave on manganese and chromite

manganese - $4.5trillion
http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/manganese/mcs-2012-manga.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese
http://mbendi.com/indy/ming/mang/af/sa/p0005.htm
www.photius.com/countries/south_africa/economy/south_africa_economy_energy_minerals_and_~2472.html

chromite - $7.5trillion
http://mbendi.com/indy/ming/chrm/af/sa/p0005.htm
http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/chromium/mcs-2012-chrom.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium
www.photius.com/countries/south_africa/economysouth_africa_economy_energy_minerals_and_~2472.html

see here mister, stop cooking up funny minerals that have no steady world market demand. you just pick some tons of minerals and multiply by some inflated figures of market prices for these very unpredictable minerals.

with a value at about $24 trillion , Congo DRC is the richest country in africa by non-oil solid minerals, the whole world including your south african friends agree to that on this forum.

so what is the total mineral value for south africa ? i see you claiming to be richer than Congo DRC with all these mysterious and strange trillions of dollars you are manufacturing here

also, countries are valued basically by minerals with verifiable market demand and prices.

for nigeria too , i can bring up our uranium, the dozens of gem stones, huge mass of limestone, and other solid minerals like columbite, then nigeria will go far above the $30 trillion i quoted before.

see other nigerian minerals below :

http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/NG/list-of-minerals-supplier.html


nigeria is still the richest country in africa by mine-able natural resources. FACT !!!


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DictatorZAR: Battle tested where lets put the avionics suits to test and then you can talk about battle tested there are many weapons systems thats not battle tested yet they are deemed better then its peers, tell how many SU-30mk's and warships are battle tested.

Tell me are your BTR-3U battle tested compared to the Ratel 90, which one saw more action and is more battle tested over the last 3 decades. Pleas you argue like a boy tell me are you really in the defense industry.

Lets look at the systems of both helo's before you talk sh..it.

Rooivalk's systems are fully published because soweto is broke and hungry for export sales that may never come.

Mi-24/Mi35 Hind's systems are not fully published because there are many different versions and modifications based on what each country has. Russian, Ukrainian, Belarussian, Algerian, Nigerian, Ethiopian versions are all different in terms of internal systems.

first advantage of Mi-24 is that it is a multi-purpose helicopter that can change roles from air to ground attack gunship, air to air defence, cargo transport, troops transport, medical ambulance all for a price of about $12 million.

Rooivalk can only function as a gunship for air to ground and air to air combat, finished, and so little for a price of $40 million.

the above are the main reasons no country in the world wants to buy the Rooivalk helicopter, and even south africa that produces it can only afford to buy 11 units.

by producing the Rooivalk, DENEL made a very foolish mistake as all south africans always do


second advantage is that Mi-24 can carry air to air missiles just like Rooivalk contrary to what you south africans believed.

Rooivalk is built to carry a 6km range air to air missile, while the superior Mi-24 is built to carry a 40km beyond visual range air to air missile, so with its long range 48km radar and long range 40km air to air missile the Mi-24 hind will shoot down the whole south african air force including the Gripen jets, see proof below :

An improved version of the R-73M, the R-74M features fully digital and re-programmable systems, and is intended for use on the Su-30MK and Su-35BM, but It can also be carried by Russian attack helicopters, including the Mil Mi-24.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=r-73+missile&oq=R-73&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0l4.3510j0j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

photo of Mi-24/35 helicopter gunships in abuja showing what a Rooivalk cannot do...power of nigerian air force !

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chris365: Are south Africans this dumb that you can't comprehend the simplest things?

Get this into your fried brain. For some reasons you are too slow to recognize our defence industry is too young and yours old. Do you need a textbook for that? Or has any Nigerian claimed we have a very developed defence industry?

Mind you, that post is as original as zuma's ugly face. And anyone who knows south Africa's apartheid history would understand it better. your dull head should have understood what the post meant.

Your arms industry thrived under sanctions with outside help( which you denied shamelessly) while ours didn't, which we had to start all over again after the sanctions and embargoes were lifted in 2000. Simple

Grow up and think objectively. In just few years we are ready to start exportation, we are building a standard stealth warship(first African country to do such) along with many others. Be honest with yourself and ask if that's not progress for such a young sector.

The way you people always need too much talk to understand the simplest things just makes me wonder

soweto brain dey dull naa, you know !

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Thiza: SOONER THE ECONOMY OF NIGERIA WOULD SURPASS SOUTH AFRICA ITS A FACT

sometimes you tell the truth like the above, but only once in 3 months i think

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nigerian navy begins to change equipment/armaments on new Type 056 stealth warship

....building a new powerful ultra-modern nigerian blue water navy[/size]

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as i have told @andrewza and his fellow south african noisemakers (alariwo ) many months ago, nigerian navy is changing many things and will still add many new more new things on these two brand new warships coming to our service next year.

missiles will be selected later, radar has just been selected....not the radar that people expected.

those warships will likely be the most d.eadly in all africa by the time we finish putting a mixture of the world's best electronics and weapons on them.

the ships size, weight, and range is already bigger than the original chinese version.

it also has capacity to carry a permanent naval helicopter fully stationed on board all the time which the chinese version cannot do.

....that ship will sink a submarine when it is fully re-modularized. FACT !!!!

"KELVIN HUGHES TACTICAL NAVIGATION AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS RADARS SELECTED FOR THE NIGERIAN NAVY’S INCOMING 1,800 TON P18N STEALTH OFFSHORE PATROL VESSELS (ENLARGED DERIVATIVE OF THE TYPE 056 CORVETTE"

http://beegeagle./


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DictatorZAR: Tell us what has your shi..thole exported not futuristic Adoni look alike river patrol boats.

Do you really work in the defense industry because you argue like a typical Yahoo boy somewhere in makoko slum.

south africa is foolish, your weapons dont sell any meaningful quantity in the world because you build expensive things with european help and still hope to sell to the same europeans that can afford expensive weapons.

ask DENEL to hire me and i will rebuild their weapons marketing strategy, DENEL cannot compete with great super powers america, russia, NATO, china etc in the weapons business.

nigeria is smarter than south africa, that NNS ANDONI is cheap enough for all african countries to buy and maintain locally.....ask china the secret of their new status as world super power.....smarter than the americans and europeans.

70% of the goods we buy here in america today are made in china.

south africa is a fool, nigeria is a genius

Thiza: naijas show the world ur indegenous production without any technological borrowing from any western country.

nigeria and south africa have different defense plans, we dont build exactly the same things.

nigeria is building rockets and missiles combined with a space satellite development programme in a massive project bigger than anything south africa is doing in that same category.

we have posted that many times here.

evey country has its own different startegy. anyway, south africa has NO satellite and your blind bat military will be out-smarted and wiped-out by nigerian military spy satellites

DictatorZAR: Know why dont you pair the M-24 against a rooivalk and lets see who will win mr know it all and while your at it say thanx to the same Denel who is currently upgrading the same Hinds to get upto standard of the same rooivalks you try to mock.

nigerian M-24 helicopter is battle tested worldwide. south african Rooivalk is NOT battle tested anywhere, dont mention M23 rebels....that is not a war....and the whole united nations military was involved.

Thiza: @AUGUSTUS OBSERVE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICAN AND NIGERIAN UAV......WHICH ONE LOOKS PROFESSIONAL AND WHICH ONE CAN ATTRACT CUSTOMERS.

as long as each one does the job it is required to do, then a drone is a drone, put gloss shine paint on your own if you wish

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DictatorZAR: Show me one blue water naval ship ever built in nigeria by nigeria without outside help because that is what SA did with the SAS Drakensburg, yes the that same ship which made your foolish politicians cry fowl with the Ivory Coast saga.

south africa build SAS Drakensberg with outside help as you always get help from europe.

that SAS Drakensberg ship was saved by nigeria's crying fowl in ivory coast, we could have kept quiet and send NNS ARADU to sink that jacob zuma's warship with only one Otomat anti-ship missile, and that will be end of story.

south africa dare not go to war with nigeria, every other warship you send to nigerian waters will be sunk in a naval blockade battle either by nigerian coastal artillery or air to surface rockets from our jet fighters.

now soweto chief, dont boast of your country's d..i..c..k, it is very small like a half smoked cigarette butt

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chris365: this is the reason why i dislike most south africans on this forum... Liars. liars. liars with egotistic problems.

don't try me when it comes to history, even south african. cos i seem to know more about your country's history than you lots.

[size=13pt] South Africa Growth of the Defense Industry[/size]
South Africa's domestic arms industry originated in 1940 with the appointment of an Advisory Committee on Defence Force Requirements to study and to assess the country's military-industrial potential. Relying on its recommendations, the government, with British assistance, established six factories to produce or to assemble ammunition, bombs, howitzers, mortars, armored vehicles, and electronic equipment

Before the voluntary UN arms embargo was declared mandatory in 1977, South Africa received military technology through licensing agreements, primarily with West Germany, Italy, Israel, France, Belgium, and Canada. Licensing and coproduction agreements in the 1970s and 1980s made it difficult to distinguish between fully indigenous military manufactures and those that relied on foreign manufacturing capabilities

[size=13pt] Defying International Embargoes[/size]
Despite the numerous international embargoes against arms trade with South Africa in the 1970s and 1980s, it nonetheless developed the most advanced military-industrial base on the continent.

in the deliberate refusal by several countries to comply with the embargoes; in Pretoria's use of clever and covert circumvention techniques; and in its ability to develop and to exploit advanced commercial and "dual-use" technologies for military applications. By the late 1960s, South Africa had acquired at least 127 foreign production licenses for arms, ammunition, and military vehicles. South Africa had purchased fighter aircraft, tanks, naval vessels, naval armaments, and maritime patrol aircraft, primarily from Britain. After that, military equipment was carefully maintained, upgraded, and often reverse-engineered or copied, after the embargo made it difficult to obtain replacements or replacement parts.

During the 1970s, South Africa expanded and refined its ability to acquire foreign assistance for domestic military production. Its broad-based industrial growth enabled it to shift imports from finished products to technology and components that could be incorporated into locally designed or copied military systems. Through this maneuver, multinational firms and banks became major sources of technology and capital for South Africa's defense industry, even during the embargo era.

Dual-use equipment and technology--such as electronics, computers, communications, machine tools, and industrial equipment--and manufacturing techniques were not subject to embargo and were easy to exploit for military applications. South African engineers also were able to modify, to redesign, to retrofit, and to upgrade a wide range of weapons using foreign technology and systems.

South Africa also invested in strategic foreign industries; recruited foreign technicians to design, to develop, and to manufacture weapons; rented and leased technical services, including computers; and resorted to cover companies, deceptive practices, third-country shipments, and outright smuggling and piracy to meet its defense needs. By the 1980s, the defense industry, as extensive as it was, was nonetheless incapable of designing and producing some advanced military systems, such as high-performance combat aircraft, tanks, and aerospace electronics.


The new Government of National Unity in 1994 faced the dilemma of whether to dismantle the defense industry many of its leaders had reviled for two decades or to preserve a lucrative export industry that still employed tens of thousands of South Africans. After some debate, President Mandela and Minister of Defence Joe Modise decided to maintain a high level of defense manufacturing and to increase military exports in the late 1990s
http://www.photius.com/countries/south_africa/national_security/south_africa_national_security_growth_of_the_defens~2506.html

so please stop deceiving yourselves and some ignorant south africans that you developed your defence industry alone during sanctions. western countries traded with SA, helped you with your military capabilities. even SA was Britains largest trading partner in Africa under sanctions. while Nigeria was completely abandoned because we didn't have European settlers. Fact

do you think i just come here blabbing without proof like you. i'm just not accustomed to the copy and paste mentality you people depend on to pass information.

like i said earlier, Nigerian defence industry is very young and wholly indigenous and so far we are doing very well. deal with it or go flush your head in a toilet.

you k.illed them all....the soweto mofos


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DictatorZAR: All sh.itt talk to me show me what you've developed that is of nato standard. In apartheid only Israel was SA's ally and there were arms embargo on SA too they couldnt by amy aircraft so Isreal only helped with the airframe development of the Cheetah and we gave them Uranium and helped there diamond industry including with there agriculture so it was a win win arangement.

Nigeria back then with its military regime couldnt even support the anti apartheid movement with military support.

SA developed homegrown defense industries without much outside help. So tell me did israel help with SA's world class MRAP developments in the 1970's. Did the EU develop the Rooikat, Casper and G6.

Show me one blue water naval ship ever built in nigeria by nigeria without outside help because that is what SA did with the SAS Drakensburg, yes the that same ship which made your foolish politicians cry fowl with the Ivory Coast saga.

Fool you need to read your history SA was also kicked out of the commonwealth in the bad old days we lived under sanctions also from sport to economic.

Tell me which country developed the Umkhonto SAM system that is being used by Finland tell me who developed the Umbani that Pakistan bought. Tell me who developed and innovated the HMI helmets the hole world uses today. Ask the Russians who today is upgrading there hinds, including the only accredited Hind service network.

Talking about no SA defence company being indigenous please boy can you tell me who owns Denel africa's largest defence company please do tell me because it seems im hopelessly uninformed.

almost 90% of south african weapons manufacturing technology was imported from Israel and paid for, including all the inputs and foundation for your missiles manufacturing....most of it was copy and paste from Israel in exchange for millions of dollars paid by apartheid government of south africa to a cash hungry and desperate Israel from around years 1960 to 1990.



[size=16pt]how Israel Sold All Missile Manufacturing Technology To South Africa.....

....Including 'Stolen' American Missile Technology Secrets[/size]


Israel and South Africa have a long record of military cooperation, though neither admits to working together on nuclear weapons or long-range missiles. But strong evidence of missile cooperation surfaced in 1989, when a powerful rocket took off from South Africa's Overberg Test Range and flew nearly 1,500 kilometers. It turned out to be a South African version of Israel's Jericho-II missile.

U.S. officials confirmed later that the CIA had evidence of a full-scale partnership between the Israel and South Africa to develop, test and produce long-range missiles and rockets. A U.S. official who tracks missile proliferation tells the Risk Report that South Africa's space launcher, the RSA-4, was built around the same engines that power Israel's Jericho-II missile and its "Shavit" space launcher. In 1990, Washington penalized Armscor for its missile activities by banning trade for two years, but President Bush declined to punish Israel.

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/safrica/autopsy.html



The new list, which does not name the Jericho, sends Israel the wrong signal. Israeli missile makers have already diverted U.S. technology to the Jericho in violation of promises not to. Yet firms such as Israeli Military Industries, which makes the big rocket motors that power the Jericho, will still be eligible for American goods and so will South Africa.


In 1989, NBC News revealed that Israel was selling Pretoria the means to make Jericho rocket motors and that the two countries were developing the missile together. In return for the Israeli help, the Jericho was being tested off the South African coast. The new list pretends that neither the Jericho nor the diversions exist.

http://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/article-oped-report/missiles-dangerous-name


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Thiza: GREAT FOR NIGERIA NAVY

Nigeria Navy (NN) has contracted the China Shipbuilding and Offshore International Company (CSOC) to upgrade its naval dockyard into at Port Harcourt into a world-class factory that will build offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) and carry out maintenance on vessels.

The Chinese company, which won a contract to build two 95 metre P18N OPVs for the Nigerian Navy in 2009, is scaling up the facilities to enable it to do the remaining construction works on the vessels locally in Port Harcourt. Nigerian Navy chief of Policy and Plans Rear Admiral Emmanuel Ogbor said the upgrading of the shipyard is part of the navy's drive to develop a local ship-building capability and an industrial base capable of maintaining the country's naval vessels.

"Localising building of naval vessels in Nigeria will make more naval ships available for patrol and protection of critical offshore infrastructure in Nigeria's maritime domain for the benefit of all,” Ogbor said.

CSOC representative Xu Qui said the first phase of the project will entail construction of a new jetty and other facilities for the repairing of ships up to 5 000 dead-weight tons (dwt). The second phase will focus on the construction of a new dry dock and auxiliary facilities with a capacity to build and repair offshore patrol vessels and 5 000 dwt ships. The third and final phase will see the setting up of a fully modern shipyard capable of building and repairing offshore patrol vessels, offshore platformss and seafaring vessels of up to 10 000 dwt.

According to Jane’s Defence Weekly, the first Chinese-built OPV is being built at the Wuchang shipyard in Wuhan and is expected to be delivered to Nigeria in mid-2014. The second vessel is also set to arrive in Nigeria in 2014, and will be completed either later next year or in early 2015.

According to Jane’s, the NN dockyard has already produced a 31metre long Seaward Defence Boat (SDB) and is using the experience gained to build a larger, 38-metre long SDB and a 16.56 m, 92 ton naval tug. The dockyard previously built a 90-passenger naval ferry (Sauka Lafiya) in 2009.

International interest in Nigerian ship-building has grown of late with Singapore-based Suncraft International offering the NN two low-cost ship designs - one for a 60 metre long vessel with a helicopter pad and the other for a 90 metre long vessel which has an integral hangar.

Suncraft has delivered at least a dozen 17 metre Manta and two 38 metre patrol craft to the Nigerian Navy, which will soon receive two Ocea FPB 98 patrol craft.

Many of the Nigerian Navy’s vessels are in poor condition due to lack of maintenance, but the Navy is embarking on a highly ambitious expansion programme that aims to acquire 49 naval vessels and 42 helicopters over the next decade. A number of vessels have been delivered over the last several years, such as the ex-US Coast Guard Hamilton class cutter NNS Thunder, and dozens of inshore patrol vessels. The Nigerian Navy will receive two more ex-United States vessels in 2014/15, the US Navy Survey Ship John McDonnell and the US Coast Guard Cutter Gallatin.

@THIZA shines with this one o !

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Fighter Pilot: What did Nigeria and Egypt sell ?

it is better not to waste time and money to produce a foolishly expensive and non-versatile Rooivalk helicopter gunship that will sell only 11 units in 20 years which made DENEL go into heavy debt and needed government rescue with cash. what a waste !

Nigeria and Egypt are intelligent and economically gifted enough to buy American Apache and Russian Hind helicopter gunships.

only a foolish man will boast of his d..i..c..k when he knows it is only 2 inches long.

south african Rooivalk helicopter gunship is like a 2 inches long d..i..c..k

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DictatorZAR: All sh.itt talk to me show me what you've developed that is of nato standard. In apartheid only Israel was SA's ally and there were arms embargo on SA too they couldnt by amy aircraft so Isreal only helped with the airframe development of the Cheetah and we gave them Uranium and helped there diamond industry including with there agriculture so it was a win win arangement.

Nigeria back then with its military regime couldnt even support the anti apartheid movement with military support.

SA developed homegrown defense industries without much outside help. So tell me did israel help with SA's world class MRAP developments in the 1970's. Did the EU develop the Rooikat, Casper and G6.

Show me one blue water naval ship ever built in nigeria by nigeria without outside help because that is what SA did with the SAS Drakensburg, yes the that same ship which made your foolish politicians cry fowl with the Ivory Coast saga.

Fool you need to read your history SA was also kicked out of the commonwealth in the bad old days we lived under sanctions also from sport to economic.

Tell me which country developed the Umkhonto SAM system that is being used by Finland tell me who developed the Umbani that Pakistan bought. Tell me who developed and innovated the HMI helmets the hole world uses today. Ask the Russians who today is upgrading there hinds, including the only accredited Hind service network.

Talking about no SA defence company being indigenous please boy can you tell me who owns Denel africa's largest defence company please do tell me because it seems im hopelessly uninformed.

south African defense industry is nothing special,it sold only 11 Rooivalk helicopter gunship in about 20 years

[quote author=drag_on]Why are you typing out stuff like you are new? It was what your defence minister declared,now your airforce is in damage limitation mode due to the scandal it caused.They rushed out the jets from storage,scrubbed them clean and parade them in hangars.

Durban - Twelve Gripen fighter jets that were bought as part of the controversial arms deal more than a decade ago are being kept in mothballs.

This was revealed by Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula on Tuesday.

Responding to a parliamentary question, she said the aircraft had been placed in long-term storage, adding that this was “in line with their utilisation and the budget expenditure patterns/flow of the SA Air Force”.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/gripen-fighter-jets-kept-in-mothballs-1.1485479#.Uoz30zhQG-I
http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/2013/03/13/almost-half-of-sas-gripens-in-storage[/quote]you f.inished him

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[quote author=drag_on]Nigerian Navy to export war ships

on November 20, 2013 / in News 11:03 am / Comments


Lagos – The Nigerian Navy says it is building commercial war ships for export within the African countries.

The Chief of Naval Staff (CNS), Vice Adm. Dele Ezeoba, said this on Tuesday when he inspected the second indigenous patrol ship under construction at the Naval Dockyard, Victoria Island, Lagos.

Ezeoba expressed confident that the Nigerian Navy was skilled enough to build patrol ships between 10 and 38 metres in size for export.

“The Nigerian Navy will no longer buy a ship of between 10 and 12 metres in size, because we have the capacity and capability to build them in our dockyard,’’ he said.

According to him, the ship under construction is in the same class with first indigenous 31 metres patrol ship, NSS Andoni, but was redesigned and upgraded to 38 metres.

Ezeoba said that the ship building business would not only attract economic value but create job for hundreds of thousands of Nigerians in the maritime sector and beyond.

He assured that the second indigenous ship would be delivered to Nigerian Navy by the dockyard for its inauguration into the fleets latest by June 2014.

At the NSS Beecroft, the Naval Chief also inaugurated four new patrol shaldag mante boats to enhance operational capability of the base in addition to the six of their class which were inaugurated in December 2012.

Earlier, while addressing officers and rating at the Naval Training Command, Apapa, Ezeoba announced plan to build a new Navy barrack in Abuja in order to address the accommodation problem in the service.

He said that the Naval Headquarters was looking at the possibility of channelling the lodging allowances of officers and ratings, which amounted to N3.6 billion annually, into building more houses within a year.(NAN)

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/11/nigerian-navy-export-war-ships/?
http://www.punchng.com/news/nigerian-navy-to-export-war-ships-to-african-countries/?[/quote]You made my day !

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DictatorZAR: Do you know that 70% of the valour class warships weapons and other systems indigenous south african technology, even the Badger will have SA made systems on them. The Algerian Navy, Sweden, Brazil to Malaysia uses products made in SA sh.iit even the US and UK uses some of our products.

Can Nigeria claim the same on any of its weapons systems. What has Nigeria exported to any non african nation interms in its entire 60 year history.

Go to your wikipedia and see what the % of systems deployed on SAN warships is including the submarines

In the world today not even the US can claim to have the current F-35 to be 100% US and thats a fact they even use Australian built LCS's today.

Show us what nigeria has produced and is being used in the theatre of war

Should I also remind you Denel introduced the HMI helmets to the world and today even exports it to Nato and is being used in the Euro Typhoon as we speak and im not even counting the fact that Denel is also building the fuselage for the A400M.

Once again proof to us what Naai-geria has produced not Epe experiments, may I also remind you Denel has the tech today and has proven it before with the Torgos it can build even Cruise Missiles if the need arrise.

Nigeria is about to build and export small sized warships

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/11/nigerian-navy-export-war-ships/?

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ojay0203: BREAKING NEWS!!! @agaugust and others who might be interested. BEAGEAGLE is back!!!

thanks bros ! this is good news !

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