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DictatorZAR: You are so fcvckn dum nutskull pathetic Igbo goat.

The startreak you try to mock here is ten times more mobile and faster actually 3times faster then the relic you trying to show up. Actually why dont you compare the two missiles seeker heads just for interest sake Mr Yahoo goat I got a MBA in accounting while I clean toilets for a living


Can you please register as a member and blogger at Janes or Defense daily and tell them the same shi.t there about your relic that 90% of its users have abandoned, and lets see what they will say.

i just showed you how useless mandela nation's shiny missiles are

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23273.aspx

the british just ripped you off with that starstreak junk missile with 1km maximum flying height, even pigeon birds will fly safely over it

nigerian helicopter gunships will just be rocketing jacob zuma's army from 2km height until you have no single soweto soldier left alive

south african military air defense is almost equal to zero

https://www.armedforces-int.com/upload/image_files/starstreak-missile-small.jpg

Fighter Pilot: Beware the South African home grown technology which has even consumed the whole of Africa.

Proudly South African, all the way

Proudly South African, transferred and imported foreign white brains all the way

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Fighter Pilot: Tell me did any of Nigerian soldier shed blood for the freedom of people of South Africa? No. Did any Cuban and Russian shed blood? Yes. So chief what is your argument.

nigerian army did not directly fight in south africa against white apartheid military forces, but we trained and armed some african freedom fighters.

nigerian army was not invited to the war by angola because the angolans were marxists/communists by national ideology and they naturally wanted soviet communist support from russia/cuba so they invited cuban army to fight, also using the advantage that russia never allows europe and america to hurt cuba, they chose a super power USSR/russia to counter the super powers Britain/France/America that was supporting south african military.

get your historical facts straight man !

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Fighter Pilot: Is good that they rate us second dullest but considering what we produce in the world of technology, the dull beat the giants Nigeria, who have never designed anything extraordinary in the field of Engineering or technology.

Beware mzansi technical mind

south african technology was directly transferred, some stolen, some copied, some purchased wholesale from Europe, America, and Israel.

99% of South African hi-tech sceintists are foreigners imported to establish the technology base by transfer to south africa, especially the Israelis.

source:

http://www.photius.com/countries/south_africa/national_security/south_africa_national_security_growth_of_the_defens~2506.html


nigerian technology is using our black brains. you soweto guys built NOTHING by your dull brains


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what worries me about south africa is the dullness of their brains even after 20 years that nigeria led the african and global effort to set them free from the anglo-boer white-man's prison cage of century long 'psycho-mental' incarceration....



[size=16pt]South African Brains Rated Second Dullest In The World [/size]

...by The World Economic Forum (WEF) confirmed this once again in its Global Information Technology Report 2013 :


http://www.witness.co.za/index.php?showcontent&global%5B_id%5D=98913

the south african brains are so dull that the pass mark in secondary school and university is 33%

hungry zimbabweans do 3 times better in school than south african. under-rated nigeria stands tall as the most intelligent africans on earth

http://allafrica.com/stories/201304161594.html

if nigerian education is bad, south african brains are even worse, so much that nigeria's s..h..i..t looks like food to them, that they are begging nigeria to send those 'bad' brains to help save the worse brains of south african people.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200911090934.html

the south africa dull brain problem is said to have no medical or spiritual solution.

goodbye everybody. i go away.


https://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/medical-no_brainer-brain-brain_surgeon-brain_surgery-surgeons-jlo0150l.jpg

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Fighter Pilot: Do not downplay the numbers, BH killed over 3000 nigerian uniformed soldies some of which were hidden away from media reports

source please ?

it took 10 years of thick jungle/forest warfare for 60,000 liberian rebels and 70,000 sierra leonean rebels to kill 1,000 nigerian soldiers.

boko haram is probably just about 5,000 terrorist men in number. fool

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Fighter Pilot: SA navy frigates are still alive and kicking in Cape Town and have never been sank by any low cost chengdu polished machines. There is no way that F7's can come any close SA valour frigates, not even the latest Americas fifth generations fighters. Your simulations was very childish and full of moemish. Even though I did not get to read it but from the few sentences I could see that something is missing. There is no pilot with a sound solid mind can ever risk to attack frigate fully loaded with air defence missiles.

Umkhonto missiles CANNOT harm any aircraft that flies above 10km limited ceiling of the missile.

are you sure you are in the air force ?

Missile fact sheet

Range: 12km
Ceiling:10km

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6540:fact-file-denel-dynamics-umkhonto-short-range-infra-red-guided-point-air-defence-missile-system-&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159

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Fighter Pilot: What Tanzania, Kenya and Nigeria could achieve, black South Africans could have doubled it even without Whites in equation.

there are still 5 million whites residing in rich areas and ruling south african economy from behind the scene, or have you k.illed all your millions of white men citizens with sangboma witchcraft in just 20 years ?

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Fighter Pilot: Superior with weak defence. How does it help? South Africas valour frigates are loaded with one of the best air and sea skemming missiles defence system.

Check the one above is attacking @Agaugust low-cost Chengdu F7-Ni and that one over there is sea skemming to collide with @Agaugust superior missiles.

Our valour frigate are fitted with CIWS denel guns which can fire thousands of explosive projectiles at a single shot making it difficult for any bomb or missile to penetrate.

go back to page 806 of this thread and see how nigerian F-7 jets and Alpha jets sank the whole south african navy fleet of Valour frigates to sea bottom after making your Umkhonto missiles useless with its major weak point being the 10km maximum altitude/ceiling, nigerian air force attacked from 13km above sea level.

https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/806

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Fighter Pilot: Why are you being racist. South Africans are black, whites and Asians. I am a coloured of Asian decent but I am a South African. Who has the audacity to tell Americans of African decent that they are not Americans? South Africans are South Africans irrespective of the colour of skin. We are very different from Nigeria where you only see black wherever you go. We are on the same level with the UK and US in terms of diversity.

i am NOT racist, i just want all south africans to remember that whatever nigeria achieves today, it is a 100% black nation.

south africa is a white/european built nation that would have been worse than Tanzania if it is 100% black

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zaandrew: I feel no need to put them out since you will ignore them. All I will do is correct your mistakes. Those who bielve your bull will all ways bielve it. Fact is you jumped at that 75km with out checking the facts. The realty is there is no real diffrence between the sam on your meeko360 than the old american sea sparrow that only has a 19km range.

75 km is the latests model a version not used by nigeria and is a air to air version. If you had bother to check your facts you would have knowen this


Here is somthing for you to ponder. Utaly repleces there aspir sams with the aster 15 and 30. The aster 15 has a 30km range.

since you have no source for your dreamland claims, then shut up

the source i posted proves you wrong again, the Aspide missile of 75km range is not the latest version, the source says it was deployed in year 1987 over 25 years ago, fool


http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/aspide.htm

you say there is no difference between nigerian NNS ARADU Aspide anti-aircraft missile and the american sea sparrow missile that has range of 19km ? what a fool you are

you are the one who posted comment 2 days ago that the nigerian aspide missile has range of 45km which makes it a beyond visual range missile.

zaandrew: you mean the Aspide, it has a range of 45km, and is on the meeko 360 26 are carried, not really a issue.

now because i said NNS ARADU has a missile better than than south african Valour frigate, you come back and say Aspide missile range is 19km to make it close to 15km Umkhonto of south africa.

do you think we are fools here ?

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DictatorZAR: Are you gonna compare a 5th generation high velocity sam system to a 1970's roland 2 sam, which doesnt even have the same speed or systems on board like the starstreak.

Boy are you sure you work in the defense sector my resident yahoo boy.

Please go tell this fairy tail to your beagle yahoo boys or that borehole village you creeped out of.

chief, i work in defence industry, thats why i dont judge weapons by shiny paints, i judge them by their technical capabilities.

like i told @THIZA last week, i will no longer be hard on anybody who is not a military man on this forum when they make mistakes about weapons technicalities. i just want to be fair to civilians on this forum, not everyone has the privilege to be taught about warfare by military officers, i am just lucky and thats all.

nigerian Roland anti-aircraft missile is actually 7 times more powerful than south african starstreak anti-aircraft missile.

Roland k.ills enemy aircraft flying at altitude 5.5km above the earth, but Starstreak can only k.ill enemy aircraft flying at a mere low 1km above the earth.

the south african starstreak missile is a useless missile when nigerian Mi-35 Hind helicopters attack south african army from 2km altitude above the earth, south african army will be wiped out because you have no missile defence any more !

that modern missile in soweto is a total waste of money and a piece of thrash !

dont blame me, blame your foolish south african military weapons purchasing department for dumping gabage into your armoury

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23273.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_missile

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Fighter Pilot: SA is only one of nine countries in the world to launch nanosatellite and you should be grateful that SA respresent Africa in visually everything. When people look down on Africa and say that Africa doesn't have this and that, SA introduces it in Africa and level the world. Africa never hosted world cup showpiece before but SA convinced the world that Africa can make it. Olympics have never been hosted in Africa before, but the olympic commitee seeing that S.Africa is the only country in Africa to be seem capable

the south african foolish cube satellite, a students on campus university experimental toy was built by whites/french south africans.

nigerian black scientists are building a world class spy satellite 1,000 times bigger than the 2 inch cube of sugar you are bragging about

world cup ? nigeria has hosted two world cups, one U-17 world cup and one U-20 junior world cup.

nigeria is the only african country to have hosted the two world cups in history.

nigeria has won U-17 world cup four times, U-20 world cup bronze once, and Olympic football gold medal once.

south africa has NEVER won any world cup medal

south africa hosted the last african cup of nations and nigeria won the cup under your soweto noses

only God knows how many thousands of south african beautiful girls went down into nigerian men's bed that night jacob zuma handed over the cup to us showing nigeria as masters over south africa even on your own homeland soil....respect the giant....naija is power !

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Fighter Pilot: Nigeria does not have cube satellite, FACT!!

why should nigeria run after a useless cube satellite when we have 3 superb giant satellites already and building number 4 super satellite domestically ?

have you ever seen a man with a 12 inch long d..i..c..k going to a herbalist to help him change it to 2 inches long ?

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Thiza: SA leads satellite game in Africa

The South African National Space Agency (SANSA) is marking its territory as a major global player, launching Africa's first nanosatellite, unveiling a state-of-the-art In-Orbit Testing (IOT) facility, introducing a new ultramodern high-frequency digital laser, and assisting in India's first Mars operation, all within a one-month period.

SA's first CubeSat satellite will be launched from Russia this week, 21 November.

The satellite, called ZACUBE-1, is a type of nanosatellite measuring 10 cubic centimetres and will be used to collect data on space weather. While this is the third satellite to be launched by SA, it is the very first nanosatellite to be launched on the African continent.

soweto's cube satellite ? cube satellites are university students experimental device for observing the weather, NOT a real satellite like nigeria's own. south african military has NO spy satellite and still fight war like a year 1940 generation blind bat army

south africa is NOT leading satellite game in africa with your $70,000 cube satellite that i can put in my shokoto trouser pocket

nigeria's satellites cost $13 million for the first and $57 million for the second one, and we are your masters in that area.

nigeria's next new giant satellite is already being built by nigerian space engineers domestically at home.

http://www.ibtimes.com/nigeria-its-not-just-spam-scams-petro-terrorists-west-african-nation-also-has-viable-space-program

south africa built that cube of sugar size satellite to show the world that the real size of a south african brain is equal to a tiny cube of st.louis sugar i put in my cup of gari and drink


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Fighter Pilot: About only 200 south Africans with limited fire against over 3000 heavily armed Seleka rebels cannot come to the conclusion that SA military is weak. Well if that is the case it will equally apply to a small steak of islamic sect Boko Haram who empowered and humiliated many of your soldies to an extent of freeing prisoners out of prison. So far Boko Haram is reported of having killed over 300 soldies, police and prison officials as compared to our 15 soldiers.

nigerian police is not military. nigerian prisons warders are not military. dont mix their numbers together.

only perhaps about 90 nigerian soldiers have been k.illed by boko haram in a long four years of hide and seek battle against an 'invisible' terrorist force that dresses as civilians in the day and transforms into boko haram at night.

south african army lost 15 soldiers in only one day of battle against a clearly visible enemy that presents its forces as seleka rebels.

nigerian army, the best in africa, has k.illed the boko haram leader shekau with world class sharp-shooting in dare devil face to face, hand to hand, man to man jungle/mountain combat.

south african army has not even fired one arrow with bow, or throw one zulu spear near the window of seleka rebel leader mitchel djotodia...see him boasting against jacob zuma and all south african nation in the photo below....your army has zero courage to face the man


https://media.themalaysianinsider.com/assets/uploads/resizer/1404djotodia_540_374_100.jpg

Fighter Pilot: Rooivalk is ranked way above MI-24 go and make that research. Your knowledge about military hardware is limited to jealousy.

Rooivalk is the best Gunship in the world and in fact it makes top 10 list.

SA designed Rooivalk and what did Nigeria design. Oopps!! Naught, not even a scrap. So stop arguing like a child and get a sense in your head with facts.

http://www.wonderslist.com/10-best-attack-helicopters-in-the-world/

hey dude ! didnt you read your own source weblink ?

it said the Rooivalk is NOT best helicopter gunship in the world ! it puts it down to number 8 out of 10 and puts the Mi-24 Hind at number 9.

Rooivalk is NOT among the top 7 helicopter gunships in the world according to your own source


http://www.wonderslist.com/10-best-attack-helicopters-in-the-world/

anyway, i would rather put Hind on number 8 and put Rooivalk on number 9 because Hind has superior air to air combat capabilities and the troops carrying and ambulance/medical functions that makes the Hind a multi-role combat helicopter while Rooivalk reamins single-role combat helicopter.

your source did not consider that Hinds advantage in his rankings. in my frank opinion, the Hind is the number one combat helicopter in the world and it has no direct NATO or American competitor . FACT !!!

in case you dont know how great the Mi-24 Hind is, read this below...

http://www.airforceworld.com/heli/eng/mi24.htm

stop advertising Rooivalk b.u.ll.s.hit helicopter to us here, nigeria will not buy it, only soweto air force will fly that half french tin of sardine

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zaandrew: The hind is far less manvrbil than a dedcated attack chopper, the hind does have a lot more wepaons that can be fited to it. It has been arround for donkey years. Yet 7 times better air to air ableity? The hind IR signuter is far larger than the rooivalk.


Does the hind have a radar to fire a 40km AAM? No

You again are to much ego and zero brain.

the purpose of helicopter gunship is not acrobatic air show maneuvers of spinning up and down.

america developed helicopter gunship to deliver devastating fire-power against enemy ground forces, that is where the Hind beats the Rooivalk with far better range and types of attack weapons options. that is the purpose of a combat helicopter gunship.

outgun the enemy, not perform air display acrobats for the enemy to clap and sing while watching.

there are about 50 different versions/variants of Mi-24/35 Hind helicopter gunship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24_variants

every time you face a Hind in battle, you dont know exactly what you are fighting against. nigerian air force Hinds specifications are NOT known to almost every other human being except the few air force officers in NAF and the countries of purchase.

Mi-24 Hind helicopters carry the R-73 beyond visual range 40km meduim range air to air missile and you never know the radar range or type on those Hind variants in battle.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/aa-11.htm


Mi-24 Hind helicopter is built and tested to fight air to air battle and shoot down any Rooivalk that show up with its within visual 6km very short range air to air missile and even any south african Gripen jet with its within visual range 25km short range air to air missile.

" The fact is that the use of the Mi-24 based in the GDR for air-to-air interceptions cannot be questioned. On July 19, 1988 - one year after the landing of Mathias Rust on Red Square with a Cessna 172 on May 28, 1987 - USMLM tour officers observed a Mi-24K and a Mi-24V from Stendal performing air-to-air combat training. However, back in 1986, a USMLM report mentioned this: "... HIND helicopters were observed in combined arms attacks, working closely with fixed wing aircraft, during night flare and adverse weather training, and in possible air-to-air intercept scenarios"

http://www.16va.be/4.2_les_mi-24_part2_eng.html

some Mi-24 variants carry IR signature reduction devices on the platform, you are lost behind time, you are outdated, old soldier .

Mi-24/Mi-35 Hind is a far better helicopter than Rooivalk when you consider all aspects of a combat helicopter gunship, FACT !!!


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zaandrew: You do know there are many versions of the aspid and many models. Nigeria uses the very first navel version. In witch the air to air version has a 45km range. The navel version could be less since the USN only got 19km when turning the AIM7 in to a sea sparrow.


You really need to increase your reshearch ablieties.

[size=16pt]Nigerian NNS ARADU's missile superiority over South African VALOUR FRIGATE[/size]



you always write comments and make claims without any source, yet you tell those who have sources to go do research.

nigerian navy NNS ARADU has Aspide anti-aircraft beyond visual range missiles , and the source below says Aspide BVR of the '80s generation has range of 75km.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/aspide.htm

show us source to prove your own claim that nigerian aspide is 45km range, dont tell us stories from your son's story book, show us your source !

sure you are angry that south africa's modern valour warship has anti-aircraft missiles with range of only 15km, thus NNS ARADU has a superior air defence 5 times better than your shiny painted soweto valour frigate. go and d.ie

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zaandrew: It is how ever not a complete lose since the Super hind is basically rooivalk systems in a hind.
Do you guys even bother to look in to facts before you post?

it is you who never does research or tell the truth.

there are many advantages Mi-35 Hind has over Rooivalk. Hind has more speed and also 3 times more weapons options and a 7 times better air to air combat capacity, Rooivalk is built to carry a 6km range air to air missile, while the superior Mi-24 is built to carry a 40km beyond visual range air to air missile, so with its long range 48km radar and long range 40km air to air missile the Mi-24 hind will shoot down the whole south african air force including the Gripen jets.

do research and tell the truth. only a fool will choose a Rooivalk over a Hind for his air force.... a fool like south african airforce

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GeneralJ: Nigerian airforce Alpha jet
https://nigeriaairexpo.net/homebanners/b2.jpg

can anyone ID the ordnance in the middle of the cannon ammo belts ? a guided bomb or guided missile ?

zaandrew: Fact is that SA had little chance of exporting the rooivalk, it was in production for a short time, and only entered serves a few years ago. And it cost is just bad. those that may want it can not afford it and those that can afford it either make there own choppers or already have close ties to nations that build them.

Do you guys even bother to look in to facts before you post?

[size=16pt]Why Rooivalk Helicopter Is Business Failure For South Africa[/size]


"This is a key reason in Denel’s failure to export the aircraft. No one will buy a warplane whose avionics system is based on 20-year-old computers. Then there is the cost of the aircraft – the direct result of both attempting to make it a world beater and depriving it of eco-nomies of scale by cutting the order to only 12. “The unit cost of the Rooivalk is about $40- million,” says Heitman. This makes it as expensive as the Boeing Apache and the Eurocopter Tiger, the latest models of which have state-of-the-art avionics, and much more expensive than the smaller AgustaWestland Mangusta/Mongoose, and the Russian Mi-24/35 family.

Export possibilities have been further reduced by foreign worries about the long-term viability of Denel: will the company still be around in 20 years to continue to support the Rooivalk, if they should buy it? And then there is the fact that the Rooivalk is very heavily dependent on French technology"


http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/what-went-wrong-with-the-rooivalk-2007-06-08-1

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zaandrew: you mean the Aspide, it has a range of 45km, and is on the meeko 360 26 are carried, not really a issue.

no, the Aspide has range of 75km

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/aspide.htm

I know NNS Aradu carries 24 Aspides, but some issues have been coming up between nigerian navy and nigerian air force over the control of missiles and helicopters.

nigerian Exocet anti-ship missiles are said to be launched by both nigerian warships and specially configured nigerian air force puma helicopters.

we dont know who controls the Exocet missiles. the air force wants to now control the navy Augusta helicopters from 2013 and the navy refused to transfer them.

anyway, 24 Aspide anti-aircraft missiles with range 75km on NNS Aradu having air search/tracking radar range of 180km makes the warship still one of the most powerful and d.eadly blue water warships in africa today.

no wonder south african navy SAS Drakensberg ran away back home to south africa before NNS Aradu showed face with Otomat long range anti-ship missiles and 127mm sized 'messenger of death' main guns during the ivory coast civil war when nigerian and south africa supported opposite combatant sides

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mystery : nigeria's beyond visual range anti-aircraft missiles with range about 75km...

....imported from europe into service since 1983[/size]


http://portal.sipri.org/publications/pages/transfer/trade-register


who is in control of these 35 k.iller missiles nobody has ever talked about their long range ? nigerian navy or nigerian air force, or both ?

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/spada/images/3_air_defence.jpg
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Thiza: @AUGUSTUS: HERE BELOW IS YOUR ROLAND SURFACE TO AIR MISSILE YOU HAVE BEEN BOOSTING ABOUT......HAHAHHAHAHAH AN OBSOLENTE MISSILE DEVELOPED IN 1963 SHAMMMME!!!!

i wont be hard and harsh on you for the nonsense you posted above because i have decided not to insult any civilian on this forum if they make any mistake in technical weapons analysis because they are just civilians and i wont blame them so much for not having a good knowledge of weapons technicalities and capabilities, after all, i learned what i know from soldiers, as i was not born with it.

i will just add a few new points to this old issue that has been settled. first nigerian Roland missiles were NOT the 1963 version called Roland 1. nigeria's version is the superior Roland 2 and purchased with the technology available in 1985 not your foolish 1963.

Spain a NATO member still uses Roland 2 till today like nigeria .

Germany used Roland till 2005 and transferred them to another NATO country Slovenia.

powerful NATO military forces till today use Roland missile like nigeria.

Roland missile has been simulated against Gripen jet on this forum while you were away in your village to feed your grand-fathers goats.

we proved that Roland will shoot down a Gripen jet because south africa has NO long range air to surface missile to harm the Roland (not a foolish snail speed slow umbani guided bomb that ordinary nigerian anti-aircraft guns will shoot down and waste).

@fighter pilot your soweto Bachelors Degree in military science south african air force officer had to admit the fact that Roland will shoot down the best jet fighter in the world today including a Gripen jet

september 28 post on page 797 by a south african air force officer ...

Fighter Pilot: Nobody is disputing that Roland missiles cannot hit the fouth generation fighters.

nigerian Roland is far superior to south african Starstreak which is an expensive shiny painted British missile that cannot shoot down ordinary nigerian F-7 Jet and it is the best anti-aircraft missile in the whole of south africa, that shiny south african missile is actually designed to shoot down helicopters that fly too low.

mandela and zuma have a very very weak air defence system.

obasanjo and jonathan have an air defence system 5 times superior to south africa's.

your soweto kingdom has an air defence system that is 5 times weaker than that of nigeria as we have the best air defence combination in the whole of africa. reason why we are not worried or hurried to buy ultra-modern JF-17 Thunder or SU-30 Flanker jet fighter as at now.

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now that nigerian GDP is about to overtake and dethrone south african GDP, the soweto fools have changes story saying that GDP is no longer a good measure of economic power. when we said that about GDP many months ago, they refused and claimed that south africa has the best economy in africa based on a bigger GDP.

soweto buffoons will never be saved by a brain surgery.

by the way, i should post that link which says south africans are the second dullest brains in the world after yemen republic

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Z3tdee: Nigerian Soldiers At It Again

www.nairaland.com/1526810/nigerian-soldiers-it-again

Soldiers are meant to be tough on bad people, you didn't know what bad thing the people being disciplined had done. Nigerian army is tough.

Anyway, south african soldiers are well known to R.ape civilians instead of improving the peoples quality of character by instilling some discipline into them.

Soweto soldiers are world class R.apists


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