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jln115:
3. They started their campaign on the 22nd of September 2014...So yes they have been bombing ISIS for little of a year, thats exactly what i said!!

Stop lying when you are proved wrong, this is what you said....you said this year, is 2015 same as 2014 ? Liar !
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jln115:
3. the US only started bombing ISIS this year

Stop telling lies, admit when you are wrong.

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Patchesagain:
He said territory

And that territory is Sambisa forest

Armed Rhino poachers are currently holding territory 24/7 in Kruger Park South Africa
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Patchesagain:
As for your boys v the Recce's.... ask the Cubans, Angolans, M23 and Seleka how that went for them

Your Southy Recces failed to win the war for you. Cuba held SA to a stalemate.

M23 was defeated by UN multinational force.

Seleka dispatched South African special forces by 'courier' and posted them to Bangui airport to hide under the blanket of French army

The average life span of South African special forces in bush war Angola was about 6 months, most of your SF died by Cuban bullets within six months of deployment in Angola, according to SADF history of special forces posted here for us all to read last year by THIZA the Southy news and photo merchant himself
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jln115:
1. The Rooivalk can be armed with the makopa.

2. M23 had 23mm anti-aircraft guns, yet couldn't shoot down the Rooivalk

3. the US only started bombing ISIS this year, they also have 0 troops on the ground!! We had/have more than 1500 troops in the DRC + 3 Rooivalk.

4. How is the Apache superior to our Rooivalk?

5. Did the Tanzanian brigadier physically command SANDF sections,Platoons,Battalions, Regiment when we were physically fighting M23??
Also, who do you think the UN calls, when they want to retake a base that they've lost??

1. Mokopa is not in service with SANDF, that's why you could not use it in Congo

2. How many 23mm did M23 rebels have, and how mobile were they, plus they had no radar ! M23 could not shoot down the Ukrainian Mi-35 Hinds too, so nothing special in your rebel worthy Rooivalk.

3. USA has been bo.mbing ISIS since 2014, and next month is 2016 you dummy.

4. No contest, Apache has fire control/targeting Radar....beats Rooivalk by all standards.

5. Tanzanian Brigadier creates battle plans and commands/controls ALL troops, he commands SANDF officers who carry out his order passing it down to platoons and sections, Tanzanian army commands South African army in battle.....live with that shame forever
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mzilakazi:
The record stand. BH killed 28 officers of the Nigerian Elite forces. Anyway, Nigeria's special forces are only one year old and that way we really cannot expect any better. Inexperience is the word.

It's no record, no date, no names, no battle location all is = Hallucinations.

Nope the army always had Nigerian special forces from 1960s Biafra war including the great 3rd Marine Commandos. I don't know any standard army in the world that has no special forces from old times even Togo Républiqué has special forces.

The story says last year Nigerian SF went for more training in Europe, not that they just became SF you dummy. Learn to comprehend when you read, and always try to think deep, don't let journalists make a fool of you.

Nigerian Navy SBS special forces was formed 10 years ago and have fought wars 10 years non-stop battlefield experience from Niger Delta war to North East war.

Show me the where the current Zulu recruits in South African special forces have fought a war for 10 years till today, 95% of today's South African special forces have never killed a human being in combat since the day they were born by their mothers in Soweto, new boys you recruited to replace your old apartheid enemy soldiers in 1994 show us their own Zulu 10 year long war experience since 1994.....show us now !!
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jln115:
Dude BH held an area the size of fvcking Wales at one stage mate!!

Past history, old expired information... what of today? Name the towns Boko Harams holds today the ones they held las cost them their fvcking lives !!! What's the use of holding land if you will end up deād in six months on that land?
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Patchesagain:
You still havent proven your claim

As for your boys v the Recce's.... ask the Cubans, Angolans, M23 and Seleka how that went for them

The old apartheid era Recces are dead or retired.....stop posting stories about 1970s-1980s expired soldiers. Special forces are always young blood fresh men not retiree old men with weak aged hearts and lungs.

Show us current achievements of current South African special forces, as I have posted those of Nigeria who kill Bokos in thousands TODAY not 1980s
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Patchesagain:
Prove it

Nigerian special forces are actually the ones wiping out Boko Haram, not the other way around you old man fraudster !!!

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html

Extreme times call for extreme methods, goes the phrase. So, with the growing brazenness of terror group Boko Haram in the North-East, the Nigerian government proceeded to create a Special Forces unit, a team of elite military personnel trained for extreme battle scenarios. Trained in an Eastern European country, the troops, drawn from the Nigerian Army, Navy and Air Force, make up a fierce fighting force that is proving to be effective in necessary areas.

What makes the Special Forces unit such a dangerous, effective one? A military insider disclosed that some reasons are intense martial arts and survival training, sophisticated weapons handling and the array of tech at their disposal. “Without giving away too much,” the source said, “The Nigerian Special Forces are not personnel to be trifled with, by anyone.”

No easy job.

Their reputation grows by the day, too, with captured insurgents revealing that Boko Haram commanders often issuing stern warnings to their fighters to avoid run-ins with the Special Forces unit troops. A Defence source even attributes that to the doggedness of the men in pursuing, sometimes even hunting, insurgents and engaging them. He offered an anecdote, wherein a group of Boko Haram terrorists where approaching and the men grabbed their weapons and kit and cheerfully engaged the insurgents in a brief but victorious encounter.


The nature of their operation makes it impossible to be reported in the mainstream, owing to the tradition worldwide which sees Special Forces units’ activities cloaked in secrecy. It is that mystery, however, which additionally makes them effective, according to military experts.
The unit, also, played a key part in the dislodgement of Boko Haram from once-dreaded Sambisa Forest.

Security insiders told Daily Trust that there has never been any doubt on the capabilities of Nigerian officers and soldiers. “We all know the issues have to do with training and equipment,” one said, adding that the coming of the Special Forces unit has proven once again that the Nigerian military is up to the task.

In the beginning

The Special Forces unit first assembled in Bauchi, from where they were escorted to Borno State, where the need for their unique skill sets was dire. When they arrived, the Bama axis was too hot, so they were deployed there and were said to have performed effectively. During those particular operations, they were constantly on the offensive, in many cases sending insurgents running.

The Special Forces were so effective that observers mistook them for the mercenaries said to have been hired by the government of the day, probably because they wore uniforms which looked nothing like the civilian populace had seen before.


They are also known for using the Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle, as well as being instrumental in weakening and dislodging many Boko Haram camps in Borno State. In addition, they operate in Yobe and Adamawa states.

Secret wars

When Daily Trust requested information regarding the Special Forces unit, Army Spokesman Colonel Sani Usman responded thus: “No country discloses information about its Special Forces, Nigeria inclusive.” But he added that the nation does have such a unit fighting terrorists alongside their colleagues, “and they are doing creditably well.”

Colonel Usman also stressed the need to remember the efforts of regular troops on ground in the North-East. “The fight against terrorism in Nigeria is a collective responsibility among the Armed Forces, the police and other security forces,” he added.


http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html#fmoEHi6g3IrggbLE.99



If South African special forces of today, ZERO experienced Zulus, fight Nigeria's battle hardened special forces, Zulu SF will be wiped out !
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jln115:
1. So now your comparing jets to Attack helicopters?? And yes, the Rooivalk turned the tide in DRC with regards to the m23!!

2. Also I never took any credit away from Tanzania or Malawi. All I was pointing out, was the majority of the FIB consist out of SANDF soldiers.

1. The Rafale jet b.ombing ISIS is using laser guided b.ombs and guided missiles which the Rooivalk does not have, yet the jets have not defeated ISIS, it is certain if your Rooivalk appears in Iraq ISIS will pluck your Rooivalks from the sky like kids pluck mangoes from trees.

Not trying to compare jets vs helicopters, I can educate you that the superior Apache helicopter with guided missiles is also fighting ISIS and has not won the war.

http://www.ibtimes.com/us-apache-helicopters-attack-isis-base-report-1816402

Yet the Apache is superior to the Rooivalk.....dude go sit down, one Rooivalk did not defeat M23, the battle was won on the ground by artillery and infantry plus armoured vehicles that plunged into M23 bases and uprooted them.

2. South Africa has larger numbers, but the commanding brain is Tanzanian brigadier who plans ALL the battles against M23 so SANDF simply follows his orders and use his brain to fight, and the heaviest firpower on ground is D-30 howitzer heavy artillery guns of Tanzania, SANDF is just running around with rifles

When your rebel worthy Rooivalk is tested against an enemy that has 23mm x2 anti-aircraft guns and MANPAD missiles, come back talk to us
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jln115:
1. So now your comparing jets to Attack helicopters?? And yes, the Rooivalk turned the tide in DRC with regards to the m23!!

2. Also I never took any credit away from Tanzania or Malawi. All I was pointing out, was the majority of the FIB consist out of SANDF soldiers.

1. The Rafale jet b.ombing ISIS is using laser guided b.ombs and guided missiles which the Rooivalk does not have, yet the jets have not defeated ISIS, it is certain if your Rooivalk appears in Iraq ISIS will pluck your Rooivalks from the sky like kids pluck mangoes from trees.

Not trying to compare jets vs helicopters, I can educate you that the superior Apache helicopter with guided missiles is also fighting ISIS and has not won the war, yet the Apache is superior to the Rooivalk.....dude go sit down, one Rooivalk did not defeat M23, the battle was won on the ground by artillery and infantry plus armoured vehicles that plunged into M23 bases and uprooted them.

2. South Africa has larger numbers, but the commanding brain is Tanzanian brigadier who plans ALL the battles against M23 so SANDF simply follows his orders and use his brain to fight, and the heaviest firpower on ground is D-30 howitzer heavy artillery guns of Tanzania, SANDF is just running around with rifles

When your rebel worthy Rooivalk is tested against an enemy that has 23mm x2 anti-aircraft guns and MANPAD missiles, come back talk to us
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jln115:
Neither isis, pkk ect ect are occupying land in France, USA or Turkey. Boko Harm on the otherhand occupy a vast majority of your territory.
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Name the towns and cities currently occupied by Boko Haram in Nigeria today.... We are eager to know
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Patchesagain:
No citations = trolling

Luckily I have citations

You have an artwork photo of Nigerian army regular infantry troops which you post fraudulently as special forces troops.

You have no name of the town or location or date of the fake battle you are saying Nigerian special forces got wiped out fighting.

You claim the casualty numbers come from a secret military burial, if its secret how did you attend a secret military burial to count of coffins and graves? Old man fraudster !!!!!

Nigeria's three armed forces combined have over 4,000 special forces, you claim we had only 46......how does that make sense.

You have NO citation to prove your fraudulent claim, that's why you a wrong post photo, your photo citation is of year 1990s Liberian war Nigerian army infantry carrying old FN-FAL rifles we don't even use anymore as standard issue, and you label it as Special forces war against Boko Haram war.

Your comment goes down into a bottomless pit.....waste of time and browsing megabytes.

jln115:
Yes i know they took over Bangui, it was never our duty to defend it, they called for a ceasefire.......OR did Seleka defeat the French army to, who were present in Bangui?

the majority of the FIB consists out of SANDF troops, we also supplied the Rooivalk which was instrumental in defeating the M23......So please tell me how Congo and Tanzania did the heavy lifting.

Both PKK and Al-Qeada are not occupying land inside of Turkey or USA like Boko Harm is in Nigeria.

PKK lives inside Turkey and blow up hundreds of Turkish citizens at random when they attack the capital city and other towns. ISIS operators live inside USA, they just massacred 14 Americans inside California last week.

Paris has ISIS operators living inside France and bõmbïng Paris at random killing the French citizens in hundreds and forcing Paris into paralyzed lock down mode for days.....France has officially declared a national state of emergency.

All those three NATO military forces have not saved their own homeland from terrorists, so Nigeria has not done badly with almost 100 million Islamic believers resident inside Nigeria, we have more Muslims than the whole population of France, we face 100 times more risk potential.

Rooivalk helicopter arrival did not defeat M23, you cannot win asymmetric war from the air, hundreds of powerful NATO fighter jets including mighty Rafale and Typhoons 4++ generation jet fighters have bömbed ISIS about 10,000 times in two years and ISIS is still holding tight to it's territory and exporting oil from Iraq doing big business. The frustrated USA has announced last week that special forces will now be deployed on ground to battle ISIS....you can't win such war with air power . M23 was killed by multinational ground troops from Tanzania, South Africa, Malawi and all troops under Tanzanian leadership/command....plus Tanzanian heavy artillery from D-30 howitzers that pounded M23 positions into powder before ground troops moved in to mop up what was left of a wrecked M23 force.....you failed to give credit to Tanzanian army heavy artillery prowess.....you glory thief !

Your Rooivalk is a rebel worthy helicopter, go test it against an enemy that has anti-aircraft missiles
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Patchesagain:
Dont argue with me, argue with the journalists

You were dumb enough to be fooled by a journalist fabricating fantasy stories to sell her newspaper.

mzilakazi:
That is indeed a record. BH killed 28 officers of the elite forces (Captains, Majors and colonels). Even Seleka never killed one officer.

You had only 250 troops and that's just 3 platoons, at most 5 officers total and they fought for only 15 hours before running away to hide under the armpit of France's troops at the Bangui airport......your coward officers pushed the lower rank troops forward to die while officers were hiding behind the men that died.

Nigeria fought with 30,000 troops for 6 years, so we lose more men, but we have won the war, you did not win yours because SANDF and your special forces are afraid of death, you abandoned Bangui in her day of trouble..... Cowards and heartless SANDF.

28 Nigerian officers story is speculation or an outright lie.....the journalist said they had secret military burial, so if the burial was a military secret, how did she know about it since it is a classified military secret?

She made up the story......that's why she CANNOT name or list the 28 officers or name the place and date they fought any battle. Special forces ops are secrets, the journalists do NOT have access to special forces secrets.

That news report is a figment of private imaginations, goes into thrash bin until the journalist proves anything with evidence
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Patchesagain:
2.We flew in re-enforcements, an entire battalion, Gripen and Rooivalk - we were ready to fight but the neighbors of CAR were not

3. Liberia is in ECOWAS... in CAR in SADAC?

2. Okay, as cowards SANDF needed other countries to join them and help them to fight any war, no wonder Tanzania is your boss in Congo

3. Exactly my point....

South Africa want's to be the leader of the whole continent of Africa, yet they don't want to help an African country outside their local SADC region.....what kind of African continental leader would you ever be when you discriminate between African countries that you will help? SANDF left their fellow black brothers in Bangui to die.....so much for South African quest to become leader of Africa.

Is Sudan in ECOWAS ? Nigerian army fought for the blacks in Dafur Sudan outside our region, we were the first army to land there and stop the mass r.ape and mass murder of blacks in Sudan, we were attacked, over a dozen Nigerian troops died in an unprovoked attack by Sudan militia on our camp at night, yet Nigerian army NEVER withdrew from Sudan since those many years ago, we are still there today. If it was SANDF, your army will leave Sudan the next morning at sunrise with jet speed of escape back to peace in Pretoria.

Liberia is in ECOWAS, yes, but was South Africa in ECOWAS when Nigeria was helping you fools fight against apartheid? Nigerian army and air force made combat operations against SADF in Angola, yet Angola is not in ECOWAS, Nigeria also trained ANC freedom fighters from South Africa, is your South Africa in Nigeria's region of West Africa ?

Fool....you just proved me right and showed the world why South Africa does NOT qualify to become the leader of Africa
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Patchesagain:
Fact is, 26 of your men got slaughtered in one fight.... by musket armed Boko Haram

One fight in what city/town? Name it ! What date? Name it. Prove it, post the quotes and web link....try prove your lies...old man liar !

Patchesagain:
1. You lost 26 men in ONE ENGAGEMENT

Nope, the report is for 2014-2015 years of Boko Haram war till date of writing. Dullard at age 40, you cannot comprehend a simple narrative report

"It was reliably gathered that out of the 36 young officers drawn from the three arms of the Nigerian Armed Forces to form the spe­cial elite force, 28 of them have been lost to the battle in the North-East before the change of government on May 29."

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/military-vs-boko-haram-special-forces-wiped-out/

Is that a one day battle? Fool of Gauteng

SANDF lost 15 Elite Paratroops and a secret number of Special Forces in one day battle with Seleka farmer rebels in Bangui city, March 2013.

http://www.sabreakingnews.co.za/2014/08/20/government-accused-of-hiding-truth-about-15-sandf-soldiers-killed-in-car/
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bidexiii:
...... so why are you insisting that we only purchased 16 t72 MBT. My point is that sometimes you can't only use SIPRI or even defence procurement source to base your judgement, am not saying these websites/sources are not good. But Just get your sources and gather facts that's all.

If SIPRI knows all sources why the number of BIGFOOT MRAP and the REVA APC is missing and some other NAF procurement. The reason is simple they only make use of open source made available.

Chief, I salute you.

SIPRI record confirms 120 Bigfoot MRAP and 48 REVA MRAP.....our second hand NAF Alpha jets were airframes only, the engines are Nigerian old engines, we imported Alpha jet Korofo....SIPRI missed our Korofo, how do you report sale of korofo aircraft body without engine?

If you buy tokunboh toyota body with no engine at Owode Onirin market or Apapa berger near tin can....can we say you bought car ?

Patchesagain:
More Nigerians live in darkness than there are South Africans

No we don't. Almost every Nigerian home has electricity generator and/or power inverter. Southies burn candles

bidexiii:
If dansuki said we bought only 14 or 16 t72 tanks ; then with pictures that I have seing and t72 tanks have seing around suggest we purchased close to 100 units, both variants I mean.

Recycled photos of same T-72 tanks in different locations....equipment moved around towns....Tanks have wheels, they just need a driver to relocate from one area of operation to another....no let them scam you o ! Dasuki is reported to have admitted in November that the total number of T-72 tanks he imported is 14, that was in news report last month. The BMP-1 IFV we bought 4 units. Meanwhile let's wait for court case final judgement next year 2016.

I can tell you confidently that I have valued ALL the weapons/equipment reported on SIPRI as imported 2014 into Nigeria, all those ordered in 2014 are less than $300 million in value, most are second hand and I know market prices.....out of the $2.2 billion cash given out, $1.9 billion is not accounted for !

However, there will be costs of rifles/small arms/infantry light weapons, ordnance/ammunition, air and sea transportation/importation costs, soldiers daily tour of duty pocket allowances, feeding, fuel/oil/diesel/petrol, repairs and maintenance of equipment, special foreign training for special troops, logistics/sleeping tents/mosquito nets/power generators, medical supplies, etc. All those will be part of expenses on the war effort, but they will not cost too much.

How much is bullet when you buy in bulk? Cheap ! Fuel can come direct from NNPC, cheaper ! How much is gari, cow meat aplenty in the north, blood/glucose/morphine/injection syringe/antibiotics/antimalaria....the doctors and nurses are free...army medical corps soldiers. All these will never add up to the missing $2 billion, maybe they will total about $500 million for 2014-2015, so $1.4 billion is still not accounted for !

Give up another $400 million for stuff that we do not know about and let us assume they were purchased not disclosed or services paid for not published, like a few surveillance equipment, radars, cameras, consultancy fees, field engineering construction contractors, etc....

Then finally at least $ 1 billion naira is still NOT accounted for !!!!

Never mind that we did not even add the money they got from state government donations and monthly state of emergency federal cash deductions at source from the accounts/statutory allocations of the 3 states under emergency, Yobe, Borno, Adamawa every quarter/3 months or 4 times a year....for the past two and a half years !!!!

As an accountant/trained ex-KPMG auditor/military researcher, if I audit those government officials and the physically visible equipment delivered into the armoury/field, many soldiers and civilians will go to jail.

LONG LIVE THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
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Patchesagain:
and they insult us about Bangui....

Soldiers all over the world are on sworn oath to die fighting for their country, it's their heroic mission for their fatherland.

Nigeria has thousands of elite special forces still fighting today, we have them in thousands !

We lost those 28 elite forces men over a very long period of 6 years of war ! SANDF lost 15 elite forces men in only one day in Bangui !!!

Yes we insult you about Bangui because your SANDF ran away for the past 3 years and has no courage to return and save your African brothers in trouble, France's army had to do your job for you cowards.....we insult SANDF because you have no courage to stay in Bangui, fly in C-130 transport aircraft and reinforce with more men and equipment from South Africa, demolish Seleka rebels, and save a fellow African nation from catastrophe.

You always give a cowardly excuse of.... "it's not South Africa's job to help a fellow African nation in trouble", yet you want to be the leader of the whole of Africa...."Central African Republic is not our homeland", that is your final excuse.....well is Liberia the homeland of Nigerian military? Nigerian army has remained in Liberia for 25 years, after many bloody years of war...till today we refused to abandon them, even though the war is ended and Nigeria established democracy in Liberia, we still keep a Nigerian army battalion in that county.

You say your SANDF mission was accomplished while C.A.R nation continued to boil and your fellow Africans were being roasted to death in war, and your troops ran away to Pretoria, they are home now with wives in their Soweto bedrooms while C.A.R is dying for help.

Yes, we will insult South African military forever on the Bangui/C.A.R. cowardice of South Africa's best soldiers...Elite Paratroops and Special Forces who ran away from the face of ordinary farmer rebels called Seleka !!!!
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Captainswag225:
lol, where did u get these lies from? provide me some link

What link? Are you illiterate? Google type and search Eskom load shedding, and google sesrch 15 million South Africans without electricity in darkness.....dummy....half illiterate cannot google search simple data. Mumu
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Patchesagain:
Tell that to your stock market

Tell that to the investors who are leaving your country in droves.

They are the ones you need to convince, not us

Stock market investors who left have nothing to do with MTN fine, they chose to move their money elsewhere.... That is the nature of stock markets worldwide, it is never stable, always going up and down....it's called bull and hear, you illiterate. Show me a stock market in the world that never swings up and down....Investors are moving from USA Dow Jones stock market to more favorable markets in Europe and Asia.

List the names of the companies that have left Nigeria because of MTN.....while the same MTN itself refuses to leave Nigeria ....LOL !!!!

Has Shoprite left Nigeria? LOL...show us a names list of those who left.....the criminal investors/law breakers who have something to hide and have run away from the new display of the power of Nigerian law enforcement..... Give us their names list !!!!
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DieVluit:
Nigeria's MTN shenanigans was like a country shooting itself in the foot.


http://www.post-nigeria.com/how-buhari-scared-off-investors-bloomberg/


"This was contained in an article titled “Buhari Bounce Becomes Bust as Nigeria Policies Irk Investors” published on its website Friday, November 27, stating that Buhari’s 5 month delay in inaugurating his cabinet led Nigeria into slow growth, backed foreign exchange controls and regulatory summersault of $5.2bn against mobile phone operator MTN."

How stûpid can a nation be?

'Stupid' enough to overtake your economy by a wide margin and milk suck your MTN of billions of dollars for free
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denisfidha:
The GFP ranking makes use of over 40 factors to determine each nation's Power Index ("PwrIndx" score. From this score, the finalized ranking is generated. The factors are set within our algorithm which attempts to provide a fair canvas that allows smaller, yet technologically-advanced powers to compete with larger, lesser-developed ones. Additionally, various bonuses and penalties are added for final refinement. In the end, we hope it presents an unbiased ranking and realistic outlook on the conventional military firepower and strength of a given country for a given year. At the very least, this list can be used to stir healthy debate amongst visitors to GFP.


Scientifically.... (conventional warfare in mind)
1.Egypt
2.Algeria
3.South Africa
4.Nigeria
5.Ethiopia
6.Morocco
7.Tunisia
8.Kenya
9.Angola
10.Niger
11.Uganda


Scientifically.... conventional warfare in mind

Global Firepower is wrong !

Ranking Nigér Républiqué that has no single air superiority jet fighter above Uganda that flies world class latest models Su-30 MK Flanker air superiority jet fighters, makes GFP rankings go into the garbage bin.

Captainswag225:
atleast u admitted that they own part of ur economy.... am sure u are an employee of mtn......oh btw, do u have fuel to power ur generator?

15 million South Africans living in permanent dsrkness not connected to national grid, CANNOT afford one gallon of fuel, talk less of generator. 35 million South African victims of Eskom city area load shedding, live on candles, they are not sophisticated enough to own a generator for back up power......one million candles burnt per night in South Africa..... no generators..... Bushman Bantu primitive candlelight life style
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Patchesagain:
1. We are better equipped than you in every single way

2. You have nowhere near our COIN experience (proven by the fact that you recruit our retired soldiers to train you)

Stop making stu.pid arguments. This is very boring

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Better equipped? SANDF is a dry land only army with no single amphibious combat vehicle..... Nigerian army has hundreds of such vehicles that you can only wish you had.

South African private confidential company trained just 120 Nigerian low rank corporals, privates, and sergeants. Nigerian military trained South African high rank generals. We trained you 100 times more than you trained us.

In the 1980s and 1990s Nigerian army and air force trained your ANC fighters who now lead SANDF and SAAF generals and now command your army/air force, we actually built today's South African military leaders and commanders according to recent confession of your own military brigadier general who is paying tribute to Nigerian military for a job well done building the foundation of SANDF.

This historical fact will forever humble South Africa when Nigeria reminds them.
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mzilakazi:
SANDF only does temporary support when called upon.
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Operation Corona is a permanent SANDF national assignment and your army is failing there at home
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Henry240:
Rafale!!



The Jet other jets want to be like. A 4.5GEN jet with 5 GEN characteristics.

Hands down the world's sexiest Fighter jet!

Rafale jet now flies in African colours as Egypt reaffirms air superiority over the rest of Africa.

We proudly welcome Rafale to service in Africa.... 3 jets delivered to Egyptian air force.

https://www.janes.com/images/assets/097/53097/1638487_-_main.jpg
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Patchesagain:
There is clear rhetoric - you constantly claim insufficient facilities were provided (without being able to substantiate the claim).

Now, clearly the facilities exist, clearly advanced training equipment exists and clearly all are available where AMANI was held. So, either they did do FIBUA orientated training or they did not - and if they did not, then it is because the NIGERIAN running the exercise deemed it unnecessary.

Stop coming here and making meaningless arguments based on your observations of 0.56% of an exercise and only 8% of the participants

AU and AMANI forces used the open field facilities as provided by the host country, USA and FLINTLOCK forces used the sub-urban plus open field facilities as provided by the host country. The burden of making provisions and creating battle theater scenario is on the host, you give what you want to give, nobody can force you to do what they want on your own soil.

The AMANI forces commander is Nigerian, yes, but the battlefield formation in not Nigerian army style, we don't array forces like that in a rigid order of battle, we are fluid and flexible, typical of British army background that we have. The AMANI formation is typical South African style built on the bush war type of battle theater.

AMANI troops have shown a summary of ALL they did in that video, from live ammo firing to police riot control, they are not hiding anything in secret like a cult, only you is fabricating stories that they have secret training that nobody else knows except you making up the imaginary stuff that does not exist. The summary of they type of training they did was displayed in 3 hours of video.

If they trained 8 hours daily for 3 weeks and take weekends off to rest, take time off when senior officers meet in HQ, then the total training hours is max likely about 150 hours for the whole AMANI exercise, you don't need a 150 hour long video to show summary of 150 hours training, 3 hours summary is enough. We have seen ALL they did, there is no secret cult thing hidden anywhere.

AU should step up their war game from that AMANI level and learn from Malian army's failure in urban COIN battle space. AU should train for the type of battles that are ravaging Africa today, they will likely not be needed for intervention in any nation vs nation style of conventional combat in this current era when most countries in Africa settle their quarrels at the AU meetings or UN mediation.

NAF chief in Pakistan today, meets PAF.....surely will talk about the JF-17 Thunder.