₦airaland Forum

jln115:
Pfffftt!! As well equipped as SANDF?? hahah please Bro!!!

And no he was referring to your whole army

every conventional army in the world!! guess the SANDF is the exclusion on the rule since we are specialists at COIN warfare!!

NO!! how can you be better than the country that trained you bro?? South Africa invented guerrilla warfare we are experts in the field, only one country in Africa has the necessary credentials to be ranked as one of the best in COIN warfare and that's South Africa mate!

When did Eben Barlow meet and assess the whole 100,000 troops of Nigerian army that are scattered all over the country, Eben met them all in 3 months inside one city of Maiduguri or is he a flying spirit?

Israeli NIRTAL trained ten times more troops than STTEP ......the video shows Israeli COIN training is world class.

SANDF is no master of COIN, the past glory of 1980s apartheid era whiteman owned SADF is gone, gone like your GDP lead in Africa is gone, gone like your low corruption ranking is gone, gone like your uninterrupted electricity and water supply of the old apartheid P.W. Botha era is gone, Eben Barlow too is gone, he no longer works for South Africa, he is now your enemy that your ANC government threatened with warrant of arrest in January.

Bwhahaahaha

SANDF has ZERO skills in COIN warfare today 2015, the glory of the past is gone for ever. SANDF is being defeated in their own homeland bush by Rhino poachers on army owned Land, and Operation Corona shows SANDF totally incapable of stopping armed smugglers and armed assassins criss crossing in and out of South Africa 24 hours everyday non-stop.....in your own fatherland bush.....the enemy is your master at home, your COIN skills. = ZERO
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patches689:
Dude stop with this nonsense

You contradict yourself in your own post and your entire argument is based on a press-display comprising 3 hours and ~400 men of a 3 week 5000 man exercise

Leave the anti-rsa rhetoric at the door please

Thanks

There is NO anti-rsa rhetoric in my comment, I am speaking for Africa as a continent, or is AU = rsa ?

I wont discuss this matter with you because you will rather see the whole of Africa sink into failure just to sheild your own rsa national pride.

Like you have no pan-African spirit in you at all, your thought is all about your own country;s pride even if that pride will make the rest of Africa to perish, you don't care one bit about this continent.

Thanks bro.

jln115:
He also said you are poorly trained and poorly equipped!!

We are as well equipped as SANDF if not better. Every African army is poorly equipped by international standards.

Every conventional army in the whole world has poor training in counter insurgency until they acquire it.

He was referring to the 120 men he trained who had no previous COIN training.

That excludes the 5,000 NA troops trained for COIN in Russia and Pakistan, the 1,000 trained by Israeli PMC, the thousands trained by USA at Flintlock, Britain and China also trained new COIN forces for Nigeria.

As at now Nigeria has the best trained COIN army regiments in Africa and one of the best in the world.... 100 years ahead of SANDF


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDkybigIskw
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patches689:
2. So Nigeria is a parasite?

Nigeria is a raider raiding South African treasury....we have turned Pretoria into our ATM machine.....we will suck Mama Soweto's booooobies milk FOR FREE until both tittiiies run dry......we own you, so you produce the milk.....we drink it for free.

Nigeria has practically turned South Africa into a bondage/captive milk cow
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patches689:
You frequent beeegugugs blog

He posts the proof himself

On Beegeagle's blog, Eben denied being a mercenary and denied fighting in Nigeria, he said he only trained only about 120 infantry men...you just proved yourself to be a liar !
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patches689:
1. Is Eben doing it for free?

Is Cuba doing it for free....poor cash strapped Cuba for free ?

DieVluit:
To discuss the fine and explain himself. If Buhari as a president was worth his salt, he wouldn't be summoning himself to South Africa like a naughty boy to discuss a fine that his country has issued. Your country is embarrassing. Issue fine, extend deadline for payment and then go explain yourself to Zuma....in Nkandla!

Prove to us that Buhari summoned himself and not invited by Zuma. Prove he is going to explain fine.

Last time I checked, your MTN went on it's knees to beg for payment deadline extension and to be done by instalments.

"Reuters reported that two sources had informed it that the cell phone operator had written a letter to Nigerian authorities asking for leniency.

MTN was fined $5.2 billion (N1.04 trillion) for not deactivating unregistered SIM cards from its network."

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/n1-04tn-fine-mtn-apologises-seeks-leniency/224627/


Southy nation is on it's knees begging Nigeria for MERCY
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Patchesagain:
And no, STTEP is more than training you

Prove it.

Patchesagain:
1. Citation that we are paying them

3. So Nigeria is our baby?

1. Citation that we are paying SA trainers

3. Nigeria is brèast ràping South Africa.....see the sucking boy's head is as big as that of the woman....it's a man sucking...Nigeria sucks SA dry
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africaken:

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hQLrbfxeiQ

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I183vcUKp6c

This is a practical proof on why we are calling on the African Union to rise above the AMANI 2015 Exercise kind of old fashioned army training.

See the Malian army fail by using those same AMANI tactics.....line up IFV and start shooting at the enemy from a 'safe' distance.

The Malian force could not dislodge a few teenage rebel boys for many hours, the Malians kept hiding behind their IFV and refused to employ urban warfare tactics. The French army came in to show them how to fight a modern day urban war and the battle was over in minutes, the French troops dismounted from their IFV and advanced on foot to engage the enemy at close range in hand to hand combat.

That is how AU forces can deploy and win battles against El-Shabab, Boko Haram, AQIM, Ansar Deen, etc. Calling again on AU to rise above the 1970s Bush War style battlefield formation and demand the next AMANI exercise host to provide simulated sub-urban training environment like Chad did for FLINTLOCK 2015 and the USA was happy with them.

DieVluit:
Even worse! You had to fork out money you don't have (being a poor country and all) for the services of a private South African company. How useless must your military be? Nigerian taxpayers fork out money to sustain your army. And the army is not good enough. More money is spent to buy another military service from another country

South African military is paying millions of dollars to Cuba, tiny Cuban Island for basic mechanics, basic pilot trainers, LOL.... SANDF pays a foreign military for basic services because your army and air force are not good enough.....tax payers' money from a shrinking and declining South African economy is being forked out to foreigners on a tiny island nation.

MTN is forking out $ 5 Billion punishment fine into Nigeria's pocket while South African stock exchange suffers the loss of value on MTN shares.

All I see is Nigeria vigorously sucking free milk from Mama Soweto's two brèàsts at the same time.....till Pretoria's nïpplës get very sore

https://comps.canstockphoto.com/can-stock-photo_csp9444087.jpg

lezz:
Shut up , bushman. South Africa belongs to the past.

Nigeria is the future of Africa. We have done more militarily for Africa than South Africa can ever do.

No other country hungers for leadership than South Africa. Naked ambition with no resources or skilled hands to go along.

Main while latest amnesty reports says south Africa is the most CORRUPT NATION IN AFRICA.

BWHAHAHA. ZULUS CANT KEEP THEIR HANDS OFF DIRT. STAYED TOO LONG IN THE SWAMPS.


www.thesouthafrican.com/south-africa-knocks-nigeria-off-its-perch-as-most-corrupt-african-country/

South Africa's glory is finished ! All because P.W. Botha handed over to Bantu mõrons !!!!

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/corruptions.jpg
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DieVluit:
Like you had to cooperate with South African mercenaries? Ok, we can see how simple this thing is.

STTEP is a private military company and NOT your country's national army. STTEP also did no mercenary work in Nigeria, they were just trainere like the Israeli NIRTAL private military company we contracted for similar training. They did not fight or lead us into battle.

Tanzanian national army, not a PMC is actually COMMANDING and LEADING South African national army into battle....they rule over your army of photogenic weaklings
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DieVluit:
But did they do this before or after running? Before or after civilians fortified the area for them? Talk about being forced to cooperate, how useless must you be to be forced to cooperate with civilians?

Your journalists report is proved 100% false !

Battlefield report says it was Boko Haram doing all the running and abandoning their weapons and vehicles for Nigerian army to sieze.

Shame on you and your journalist that was writting battlefield reports from inside her hotel room 1,000 km away.... SHAME ON YOU ALL, LIARS.... ENVY IS EATING UP YOUR INTESTINES BY NOW....
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jln115:
Actually the FIB is accredited with the defeat of M23 mate!! And guess who is the largest contributor to the FIB?

Tanzania..... they contributed the large military brain that led the battles and defeated M23 rebels
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Patchesagain:
South Africa did not have a mandate to protect civilian lives and property in Bangui

Thus your argument is meaningless

Also, YOU did not establish a Democratic government in Liberia, the British did

And yes we did, in Lesotho - in a weekend

Did the British army ever fight in Liberia? No.

Nigerian army did the job, so you can only envy.

Lesotho had no war, they had coup d'etat and SANDF intervention there was a disaster, same as Burundi which is still boiling with bombings today.

South Africa has no capacity to lead Africa, you always say.... Why should our army stay there and fight, is it our country? You lack leadership spirit, God did not endow your South Africa to lead, even Tanzania bosses you around town, you wished UN gave you the leadership role, but they didn't want to risk making a perennial failure a leader in Congo war
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Truth finally comes out ! It was Boko Haram that ran away from Gulak !

http://thenationonlineng.net/troops-after-fleeing-terrorists-in-north-east-army/

Nigerian army spokesman Col.Usman, said Nigerian troops in the recent operation in Gulak recovered a Toyota Hilux, several arms and items from the insurgents.

“Some of the arms include one PKM gun, one General Purpose Machine Gun, three AK-47 rifles, one Rocket Propelled Grenade tube and one Rocket Propelled Grenade bomb.

“Other recoveries include one charger, seven boxes of 7.62mm link, one GP 340 Hand Held Radio, four boxes of 7.62mm X 54mm ammunition, three Anti Riot Hand Held Grenade, as well as 30 Cleaning Kits, two Packets of Artillery Primers and 97 pieces of Zela fuse.”

Shame on the envious lair Southies ....shame...
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jln115:
And yet we took care of M23 in a matter of months!! While you still struggle with Boko Harm!!

You? No, it was a United Nations force of over a dozen countries spread all over Congo against M23 rebels, including European air forces flying combat missions in Ukrainian Mi-35 Hind helicopters, how does South Africa claim a UN victory for itself? Thrives, you are glory thieves, stealers ,thieves of Johannesburg !

Patchesagain:
So if you dont know how can you say he is wrong?

So if he does not know, how can he say I am wrong too?

jln115:
Jap, Tanzania also outclasses your military, nobody is arguing that!!

Tanzania has NEVER commanded Nigerian troops, they command SANDF not us, they boss you around in Congo, not us.....shame on your photogenic army
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Patchesagain:
1. Your men ran like the cowards they are
2. Bangui is not part of South Africa. We were prepared to retake the town but the local Regional Bloc would not support us. We did not run


With 400 men in Cameroon and soldiers wearing womens clothing and video evidence of men running away you should not be talking about bravery

Nigerian flag flies in every town where we have mandate to protect .

SANDF has mandate to protect civilian lives and property in Bangui, yet your best troops, elite soldiers and special forces, best soldiers you have in South Africa, abandoned their African brothers in their hour of need in C.A.R Bangui..... Yet you Southies want the leadership position in Africa and you allowed Bangui to fall into rebel hands . Nigerian army was attacked in Liberia by rebels, yet we refused to abandon our fellow black nation, we stayed there and fought many bloody battles for years until we established a Democratic government in Liberia.

Show us where SANDF has achieved that in your national history, C.A.R Bangui was your chance to prove your military worth but you proved to be unworthy
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Patchesagain:
Show us proof that Boko Haram communicated their mission objective for that town to you.

I never claimed they did, your Southy foolish friend is the one claiming to know Boko Harams mission objective from inside his bedroom. Ask him how he knew it.

ssaengine:
http://m.timeslive.co.za/local/?articleId=15965166

SANDF Rooivalk attack helicopters have launched multiple attacks on Islamic-linked rebel forces in the eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo.

The Ugandan separatist Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) have been behind a spate of massacres at schools‚ hospitals and villages in the region.South African National Defence Force troops are in the area as part of a United Nations-backed peacekeeping mission to restore stability to the eastern DRC.

The attacks by the SANDF late yesterday were carried out despite the DRC government trying to forbid the UN's actions.Reports indicate that the helicopters caused considerable damage to several of the rebels' bases‚ although exact losses of ADF personnel are unknown.

jln115:
If the Rooivalk hasn't proved its worth by now, I don't know what will!!

Rebel worthy $40 million Rooivalk helicopter doing the job a $1 million Gazelle helicopter is doing against Boko Haram....congrats on your Amoeba size achievement
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iblawi:
At least is good news South Africa has improved on something.

Yes o ! South Africa climbs up the corruption ladder and climbs down the economic growth ladder

Zaha:
South Africa Knocks Nigeria off its Perch as
“Most Corrupt” African Country
South Africa is now believed to be the most
corrupt country on the continent, according
to a new survey.
By Alexis Haden
The latest report by Transparency
International sees South Africa top the list
of countries where citizens believe the
problem has got worse in the last year.
Over 80% of South Africans who were
interviewed thought that corruption had
increased over the last year. Ghana and
Nigeria are some of the other worst-
affected nations.
79% of South Africans surveyed also believe
that not enough is being done to curb
corruption. On the continent‚ the majority of
Africans (58%) say that corruption has
increased over the past year.
If there is one shining light to the survey
it’s that 56% of South Africans surveyed
believe that ordinary people can make a
difference in the fight against corruption.
The survey found that 25% of respondents
in SA believe that the most effective way for
ordinary citizens to combat corruption is by
reporting their experiences‚ followed by a
further 22% who identified the refusal to pay
bribes as an effective means to fight
corruption.
With 43‚143 respondents, across 28
countries surveyed, people feel the police,
business executives, government officials
and the courts were all perceived as
corrupt, with 75 million people estimated to
have paid a bribe in the past year, AFP
reports.
Between JZ pouring money into his Nkandla
digs, Prasa’s dodgy trainsand countless of
other scandals, South Africans aren’t
exactly stoked about the state of affairs.
“People are outraged, they see this huge
spending as part of government corruption,”
David Lewis, director of Corruption Watch, a
local anti-graft organisation, told AFP.
“Corruption creates and increases poverty
and exclusion,” Transparency International
head Jose Ugaz said in a statement.

source: www.thesouthafrican.com/south-africa-knocks-
nigeria-off-its-perch-as-most-corrupt-african-
country/

South African economy and society has been wrecked by the Zulu/Xhosa/Bantu fools, no wonder their apartheid white masters never wanted to hand over power to them, they knew these rëtards will just destroy South African white man's achievements of 300 years in less than 300 months, that is exactly what has happened now....brainless fools and theives now rule South Africa
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mzilakazi:
Who said BH mission was to.capture the town? .

Show us proof that Boko Haram communicated their mission objective for that town to you.

Patchesagain:
Ask the M23

Ask your Tanzanian army commander that controls your SANDF....ask your Tanzanian boss

Patchesagain:
That did not happen.

Did happen in Nigeria though


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY36o7O6LpY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WxPK6xdukQ

Past event that has changed, Last year old videos of Gwoza town that is now controlled by Nigerian army.

All those Bokos are now dead, they paid with their lives for infiltrating Gwoza town, we made them pay with their lives, their wives are now widows and their children Fatherless courtesy of Nigerian army bullets.

Whose flag flies in that town in your videos today? Whose flag?

We all know Seleka's flag flies in Bangui where SANDF is afraid to ever go back and redeem their bastardized national pride
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Patchesagain:
We have fought insurgencies (Namibia)

And we were able to stop any towns from being taken - and stop SWAPO (PLAN) from establishing any permanent bases in South Africa.

Just because you fail does not mean we fail!

Old time retired or dead apartheid white army fought Namibia, not these new SANDF of black Soweto boys 99% of whom have never killed a rat with rifle and bullet since the day they were born....LOL....SANDF has ZERO experience of urban warfare that they practically fought, not in demo videos of public image making.

The currently experienced armies of modern day African urban warfare are those of Kenya, Uganda, Algeria, Nigeria.

South Africa is NOT in that elite league.

DieVluit:
As soon as you show us proof of soldiers taking on the attackers. You don't have a monopoly over deliberate silliness. Since you were there to count the fighters on the battlefield. Show us proof.

No one cares about who won the battle. We care only about the fact that they ran. Civilians remained behind to hold the territory. The cowardly soldiers, having been given a lifeline by civilians, came back. Shame on Nigeria.

Your very own source says Nigerian soldiers fought off Bokos and the Bokos ran away, your own source has ruined your argument completely, you shöt yöurself in the foot

"The civilian fighters held Gulak town after soldiers ran away Sunday night until the military sent reinforcements who fought off the extremists former council chairman James Ularamu told The Associated Press."

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/11/30/boko-haram-destroys-nigerian-military-base-107-troops-mia

You don't care about who won the battle because it was Nigerian army that won, so envy and shame is eating up your liver by now
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DieVluit:
LOL and when the media says good things, it doesn't get attacked. Funny, cause he now wants to dispute the story based on the facts that the journalists we're not there, while he himself was not there, let alone his having the ability to report on anything. Their base was burnt down because their cowardly soldiers abandoned their posts and ran for dear life. Mere civilians took on the attackers, after which the pathetic soldiers then saw that it was doable after all. Disgusting.

Show us proof of more civilians taking on the attackers, give us numbers of how many civilians fought since you were there to count fighers on the battlefield. Show us proof.

BTW, Nigerian army won the battle, I see no contest here, so what's the noise about since we won the battle and Boko Haram ran away according to your own AP News media report, so what's the argument you have against the WINNER of the battle? You wish it was SANDF winning battle somewhere, sure you do, desperate to find one victory to add on SANDF's curriculum vitae to wipe of the Seleka thrashing of Mandela's elite paratroopers and specials forces
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mzilakazi:
You will not even qualify to be appointed as the spin doctor because you are a mess. You don't even know how to do damage control because you always attack media instead of applying your mind. No media in the world would intentionally hurt anyone's reputations for no reasons. Your military fled, otherwise insurgents couldn't have got the better hand of burning down your state property.

Desert village with mud houses worth $500 each, you call that state property. Lol.

Who controls the Gulka town today?... Nigerian army. Who won the battle? ...Nigerian army.

Case Closed !

Now Show us SANDF battlefield achievement equal to that in the last 20 years.
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