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Msauza: Indeed, 419 brain will never think beyond its host. You are making unfounded claims by saying that SA had NATO support during the bush war. SA was under a heavy arms embago, yet had to fight dual war, both at home and in Angola without any military support from anyone. The US and China support was not of military nature but merely ideological. Initially SA challenged Angola in support of UNITA and the communist backed Angola called for the support of Fidel Castro and Russia. Both Cuba and Russia sent military support by pledging number of troops to fight on behalf of Angola, but America never pledged any soldiers to fight on behalf of SA. The Apartheid forces were outnumbered in Angola with only few weapons since they could not procure any because of UN sanctions.educate yourself : It is in this meeting that President Ford told the Chinese: "We had nothing to do with the South African involvement, and we will take action to get South Africa out, provided a balance can be maintained for their not being in". He also said that he had approved 35 million US dollars more (in support of the north) above what had been done before. They discussed and agreed who should support the FNLA or UNITA by which means and in what manner taking into account the sensitivities of the neighbouring countries. on 20 December 1975, the U.S. Senate passed an amendment banning covert assistance to anti-Communist forces and curtailing CIA involvement in Angola. Later that winter, an amendment to the foreign aid bill sponsored by Dick Clark extended the ban. (Clark Amendment) [111] The US administration resorted to other means of support for FNLA and UNITA of which one was raising mercenaries. The CIA initiated a covert programme to recruit Brazilians and Europeans, mostly Portuguese and British, to fight in the north of Angola. Other ways of continued support for the FNLA and UNITA were through South Africa and other US client states such as Israel and Morocco. i wont waste more of my time, i will just add that Israel helped south africa build its nuclear bombs at that time and tested them, France sold the Mirage 2000 jets south africa used just some months before the war started. Britain gave covert support, America provided valuable covert satellite help to south africa. strategic military advice came from NATO to south africa covertly. only foolish countires will publish details of covert military assistance on internet the way you foolish south africans think all things must be written on free internet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_intervention_in_Angola http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War |
andrewza: Firstly civil war peace keeping missions vs rebels is not the same has fighting a large convistional army.show us weblink source that says a peace-keeping mission that went hostile into full scale war in liberia and sierra leone with over 100,000 soldiers fighting and airforce/navy travelling thousands of kilometres, is not a real war, it is a 'fake' war or christmas party. show us that source to prove that its not a war by world standards. if civil war is not a war, and nigeria has no war experience because Africa's biggest war, the Biafra war is civil war, then why is the world calling vietnam war a war since it is north vietnam vs south vietnam ? and why is korean war called a war since it was north korea vs south korea ? you see why we insult your south african brains ? you have a strange intellectual problem in the rainbow nation, and it may be hard to medically diagnose, except by spiritual means.
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andrewza: Secondadly reading reports from varouses nigerian genrail it come to light. With out USAF air transport and money ecomog would have failed.source please, quote source weblink, so that i wont insult how you were born ![]() 90% of ECOMOG troops, armoured vehicles, artillery etc were ocean shipped by nigerian navy huge amphibious landing ships NNS AMBE and NNS OFFIOM. did USA airforce carry nigerian heavy armour by air ? if i insult you again now people will say.... |
Mike..ZA:you see why we call you south africans 33% barins ? your above post just confirmed my fact, that south africa did not attack cuba/angola in the bush war, south africa was only defending, that keeps casualties low. your post just proved me right if i insult your south african brain now you will say i have bad language, but how can i call a fool a genius ? ![]() no source weblink for your post above, sure its a south african war propaganda new medium. wikipedia says south african air force was hiding away on the ground most of the time from cuban air force because Mig 23 jet was superior to Mirage 2000 jet, so how did you shoot down cuban jets in ratio 9:1 'victory' ? Satan himself helped you fly ? ![]() wikipedia says cuba had about 50,000 soldiers against south african 3,000 frontline, the cuban army was large and mobile enough to encircle and sorrround south africa 4 times over ! yet south african news report that 4,785 cubans k.illed but only 31 south africans killed. so how did you k.ill cuban soldiers in ratio 160:1 ? ![]() south africa should be on Guiness book of world record for war k.ill ratios greater than america and russia combined ![]() . |
saengine: "missile program"......you mean fireworks. it is more difficult to build a warship than to build a missile. hope you are smart enough to know that. warships are the largest and most complex military weapons in the world. travel out of your little box in south africa, go to a world technology forum, open your mouth wide and say ..."a country like nigeria that is building 70% of a modern year 2013 Type 056 stealth guided missile modular multi-purpose warship with full technology transfer from china to be completed next year 2014, cannot build and test missiles"... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18300358 then hear what the world forum will ask you....asking if you came to the seminar straight from out-patient ward of a specialist psychiatic hospital [img]http://www.naval.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Corvette-056.jpg[/img] . |
Msauza: 419 brain is too small to develop missiles. We want a link to convince us....and what do we gain from convincing you ? money, women, wine ? you are not that important you know ![]() |
Mike..ZA:if you talk like a m.adman, dont expect to be addressed as a genius ![]() |
LT SHANGY: The missiles being developed at Epe, Lagos are being discovered to be anti-submarines and anti-ship missiles. The Nigerian navy are working round-the-clock to be near-perfectly efficient in naval warfare. Currently acquiring ASW skills in pakistan.nigeria is pumping money into the Epe missile project big time ! |
LT SHANGY: please, my fellow NIGERIANS, You don't have to blame the south africans for their mistakes and erred comments. They (south africans) have failed to realise the huge gap between the apartheid SADF and post-apartheid SANDF. The SADF was a hugely strong military, well equipped and well funded. This present SANDF is nothing to write home about, budget constrains has forced them to ground their grippens and rooivaks. They re not well funded and equipped. This is my rankingi agree with some but not all. may i humbly give my reasons in summary ? though i will find time this month to explain my own rankings in detail. your rankings sir ; 1) EGYPT.....undisputed champion, too many weapons. only defeated by mighty israel and no one else can beat egypt except a world class power. egypt is in the world's top 15 military powers. best war experience in africa. defeated libya. 2) ALGERIA.....very low combat experience, no war records of large scale combat like Biafra war/ECOMOG. soldiers very strong physically, equal in stamina to nigeria and ethiopia. nigeria only has a slight edge over algeria in military capacity....nigeria has far better war experience, recce/spying, air defense, weapons industry. 3) NIGERIA....best military combat training/doctrine, best war history in africa. best strategic and tactical recce/spy technical capability in africa (satellites and spy balloons), great ability to watch the enemy from long ranges without being noticed. largest and most modern brown water navy in the whole world, one of the world's most active armies on different terrain. best anti-aircraft defense in africa and still improving it with help from india now. building 70% the first stealth guided missile warship in africa with china's help. rapidly growing defence industry. 4) SOUTH AFRICA......poor military intelligence, poor military strategy, poor quality of soldiers many unprofessional guerrilla freedom fighters holding officer ranks, poor health of soldiers due to HIV, poor combat experience, no single record of war victory, too much dependence on equipment with long range avoiding contact with the enemy to gain battle confidence. too many expensive european equipment hard to maintain and not in service. best defence industry in africa. one of the best 5 air forces in africa. one of the best 5 navies in africa. army is very unreliable. army size is too small to defend land size. shortage of manpower in all armed forces. shortage of jet pilots. insufficient artillery howitzers. soldiers afraid to die. 5) ETHIOPIA....no water, landlocked, cannot be attacked sea, every powerful navy in africa is rendered useless against them. second best military record of war victories after nigeria. the best air force pilots in africa. 6) ZIMBWABWE.....poor economy, too few modern equipment. however, a well trained army, one of africa's best. low combat experience. 7) MORROCCO........more powerful than south africa now. 52 units latest year 2013 version of F-16 jets, best navy warship in africa (2013 FREMM FRIGATE), about 330,000 soldiers regular/reserve, about 15 years war experience against polisario forces of western sahara. also fought brief war with spain recently year 2002, moroccan military was defeated by spain. 8] SUDAN.....many years of war experience, good air force, usually underestimated, but had a good airforce many years ago even before nigeria started. 9) KENYA....bold and confident army, not cowardly like south africa. good battlefield tactics. good army equipments, poor air force equipments. did well against somalia's alshabaab i.slamic m.ilitants 10) CHAD.....same as kenya above. bold courageous army. defeated libya. lost brief border war with nigeria. Eritrea and Angola are superior to Sudan, Kenya, Chad in terms of weaponry and war experience of about 20 years against south africa, also against UNITA. PHOTO : SOLDIERS IN THE ARMY OF KENYA
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Msauza: Nigeria has zero combat history with other nations.ask Chad and Cameroon ![]() . |
andrewza: There were problems, this took place during bad times for the SANDF yet even so the coup was stoped, lestho is stabel and it economy recoverd.south africans always have an excuse for their military failures. is it a curse ? ![]() |
Mike..ZA:does your father have a second wife that is 'doing' you voodoo remote control ? ![]() |
Mike..ZA:i have posted on this bush war so many times, and i wont repeat it again. south african military losses in angolan bush war were very small because they did not launch any major offensive to defeat cuba, they only defended a 'frontline' and prevented cuba from entering south africa. the south african frontline vanguard has about 3,000 soldiers, but south african defense line rearguard had about 18,000 soldiers. most of the fighting was done between cuba/angola/UNITA . south africa was just playing the defensive role of Taribo West/Joseph Yobo . |
zetdee: How can a devided country like Nigeria ever fight a war with another country, we know a war would give igbos an opportunity to declare biafra.the current chief of army staff of nigeria is an igbo man, why is he commanding nigerian army against b.oko h.aram ? he should have declared Biafra as a separate nation. your dreams never come to pass because you dream after bottles of scotch whisky plus dry gin ![]() |
Mike..ZA:95% of ECOMOG army was nigerian, 100% of ECOMOG air force was nigerian, 100% of ECOMOG navy was nigerian. 99% of ECOMOG battlefield and HQ command and control was nigerian. 1,000 nigerian soldiers dies in ECOMOG as 90% of all total casualties. who was fighting then ? Togo republic ? ![]() no nation fights war alone most of the time. check war history. world war II germany/italy/austria/japan joined their military together. america/britain/russia/canada/australia joined their military together. Arab war Egypt/Algeria/Iran/Jordan/Kuwait/Arab league joined their military together against Israel/plus USA/European covert support. Falklands war Argentina/USSR covert support vs Britain/USA/NATO covert support Gulf war Iran/American support vs Iraq/Russian support Gulf war america/NATO/rest of the world joined their military against iraq/mujahedeen Afghanistan war america/NATO joined their military together against Taliban/Osama Bin Laden/mujahedeen Bush war Angola/Cuba/USSR cover support vs South Africa/Israeli, French, American, British and NATO cover support Badme war Ethiopia/Russian support vs Eritrea/Ukranian support who fight war alone ? a foolish nation that has zero diplomatic connections and international recognition. you drank your beer directly from brewery factory production tank today ![]() show us any war south africa fought and won clearly in victory ![]() http://beegeagle./2013/01/23/the-real-impact-of-nigerian-ecomog-soldiers-what-you-do-not-get-told/ . |
CraigB: You need to stop lying about the pictures that you post here.i dont like to waste my time with you, but let me advise you to get sangoma herbalist help to upgrade your brain from amphibious stage to mammalian stage, you clearly missed one stage in the evolution cycle. one unknown clueless half witted photographer wrote lines that you read and swallow, you cannot use your b.rain better than his. polisario liberation front fought a very long war of independence in western sahara against morroco's military. you cannot generate any creative, informative, and educated comment/post on this thread, you w.aste away valuable hours your young life sniffing around other people's posts/comments looking for something to a.ttack public transport...public inside the dry vast sandy desert ? public in the streets of sand and no roads no houses anywhere ? public people in ordinary transport...moving all their life's belongings and properties including their beds/mattresses...? you are product of a misled s.perm that was fired at the wrong egg . .
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Msauza: DRC, Burundi, Sudan, etcsouth africa has no big military achievment in africa. Burundi was a piece of cake because the warring sides did not attack south african army like Seleka did. they agreed to ceasfire easily. try that with charles taylor or jonas savimbi. DRC has no peace yet. Sudan nigerian army was first to land in the north war in Dafur and we stopped the R.ape and G.enocide againt black sudanese by half-arabs sudanese. Nigerian soldiers were attacked at night, some died but we did not run away like south africa in CAR. South sudan independence from North sudan was AU peace committee of several nations including Nigeria, south africa only has committee chairmanship vested in Thabo Mbeki. dont steal other nations glosry and give to your 'desperate for recognition' south africa. sharaaap ! . |
Msauza: The french had to come from thousands of miles away to intervene, while your fat generals were warming back side in Nigeria.France has permanent military intervention force and bases in all former french colonies in west africa since over 60 years ago, that was the reason they were the first to fight in mali. Nigeria has semi-permanent/long term military intervention force and military bases in all volatile former british colonies of west africa since over 20 years ago doing the hard job Britain's military refused to do like France if doing so well. Sierra Leone, Liberia, Gambia. Nigeria is the 'Great Britain' of west africa.....drink second cup of sulphuric acid if you are still breathing https://www.naijastories.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nigeria-great-nation.jpg . |
Msauza: It doesn't matter how you scratch it off, the truth hurts. The reason for the establishment of that brigade is known by you and as for me, check below!tell the world that both france and nigeria failed in mali....both nations are pulling out pick a dictionary and check out the meaning of the word 'failure'and then drink a cupful of sulphuric acid because envy k.illsFrance's Military begin Mali withdrawal completely...'defeated' together with Nigerian Military in a failed mission according to south africans' 33% Brains. http://issakaadams./2013/05/ France's army vehicles pictured as seen withdrawing out of Mali now into Ivory Coast .
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. African war refugees...waiting for the AU to save their souls from wars that have no quick end .
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Msauza: Your fake Nigerian 100% brain capacity failed to grasp just that small news tabloid. The proposal for the establishment of a Rapid Response force was a South African initiative to have the response force which will rapidly be used to address to the crisis in the continent. That proposal was tabled by Zuma before the AU, because of Nigerias failure to respond rapidly to the Mali crises. south african military can only join that african military capacity force by : 1. bribery like SAAB Gripen Jet case 2. donation of large chunk of operational funds 3. gate-crashing through through front door 4. jumping fence through the back door 5. lobby for second rate list of those who failed to make the first list based on merit. .
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Msauza: Your fake Nigerian 100% brain capacity failed to grasp just that small news tabloid. The proposal for the establishment of a Rapid Response force was a South African initiative to have the response force which will rapidly be used to address to the crisis in the continent. That proposal was tabled by Zuma before the AU, because of Nigerias failure to respond rapidly to the Mali crises.. West Africa and North Africa Called for African High Command Military Intervention Force Over Ten Years Ago http://www.modernghana.com/news/112401/1/international-dilatory-rhetoric-on-liberia-a-call-.html http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2012-08-14-standing-by-to-standby-the-african-peacekeeping-force-with-more-problems-than-solutions/#.Uf55TZLvsbg QUOTE : "The idea of a pan-African military force goes back a long way. Kwame Nkrumah, the father of pan-Africanism himself, envisaged an African High Command to prevent foreign intervention and help liberation movements wage wars against colonial governments. More recently, Muammar Gaddafi proposed an African Army, offering to equip and house the army in purpose-built barracks in his hometown of Sirte. In place of the African Army, the African Union came up with something else: the African Standby Force (ASF). The idea was that Africa needed to have some kind of military force on standby to intervene before situations could spiral out of control; to avoid situations like Rwanda in 1994, where decisive and early military intervention might have saved millions of lives. Think of the ASF as firefighters, ready and waiting to be dispatched to put out whatever conflagration is threatening the continent and its people. This wouldn’t be a standing army, or even a permanent battalion under AU control, as suggested by the committee tasked with addressing the issue. In 2003, when the ASF was formalized, countries were still too scared of letting the Commission in Addis Ababa command its own firepower. Instead, personnel would be drawn as needed from one of five standby lists drawn up by each of the AU’s five regions. On each list would be 60 civilians, 720 police officers and 5,000 armed forces personnel (army, navy and air force). Each region and its list would be on standby for six months at a time, making it less likely that one region would have to deal with multiple conflicts at once. A central planning office in Addis would coordinate among the regions." contrary to some shameless lies by a south african 'mental case' on this forum, saying that south african military is already part of this brigade....fact is that the brigade has not even been formed yet. ![]() . |
. West Africa and North Africa Called for African High Command Military Intervention Force Over Ten Years Ago http://www.modernghana.com/news/112401/1/international-dilatory-rhetoric-on-liberia-a-call-.html http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2012-08-14-standing-by-to-standby-the-african-peacekeeping-force-with-more-problems-than-solutions/#.Uf55TZLvsbg QUOTE : "The idea of a pan-African military force goes back a long way. Kwame Nkrumah, the father of pan-Africanism himself, envisaged an African High Command to prevent foreign intervention and help liberation movements wage wars against colonial governments. More recently, Muammar Gaddafi proposed an African Army, offering to equip and house the army in purpose-built barracks in his hometown of Sirte. In place of the African Army, the African Union came up with something else: the African Standby Force (ASF). The idea was that Africa needed to have some kind of military force on standby to intervene before situations could spiral out of control; to avoid situations like Rwanda in 1994, where decisive and early military intervention might have saved millions of lives. Think of the ASF as firefighters, ready and waiting to be dispatched to put out whatever conflagration is threatening the continent and its people. This wouldn’t be a standing army, or even a permanent battalion under AU control, as suggested by the committee tasked with addressing the issue. In 2003, when the ASF was formalized, countries were still too scared of letting the Commission in Addis Ababa command its own firepower. Instead, personnel would be drawn as needed from one of five standby lists drawn up by each of the AU’s five regions. On each list would be 60 civilians, 720 police officers and 5,000 armed forces personnel (army, navy and air force). Each region and its list would be on standby for six months at a time, making it less likely that one region would have to deal with multiple conflicts at once. A central planning office in Addis would coordinate among the regions." contrary to some shameless lies by a south african 'mental case' on this forum, saying that south african military is already part of this brigade....fact is that the brigade has not even been formed yet. ![]() . |
. [size=16pt]south african military not rated on african capacity list .............says south african research institute [/size] http://www.bdlive.co.za/africa/africannews/2013/05/30/news-analysis-doubt-over-aus-stop-gap-intervention-force Solomon Ayele Dersso, senior researcher on conflict prevention at South Africa’s Institute for Security Studies, said the emergency force could work since the troops for it would be volunteered by member states with proven military capacity, instead of trying to include soldiers from every member state, as the full standby brigade proposes. "One thing that’s different about the new force … is that it will be based on the principle of military capacity," he said. He cited Nigeria, Ethiopia, Chad and Kenya as states that have proven their military capacity over the past 18 months or so. "It’s nice to say all member states are equal, but we live in an Orwellian world where some states are more equal than others ... and not all are in a position to make a contribution to peace and security", Mr Dersso said. Who has the strongest military in Africa after Egypt ? read above...Nigeria is 2nd, Ethiopia is 3rd source of ranking : Research report from South Africa’s Institute for Security Studies http://www.bdlive.co.za/africa/africannews/2013/05/30/news-analysis-doubt-over-aus-stop-gap-intervention-force .
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sambos994: I wonder, what happens if we nationalize MTN Nigeria?we take over their jobs, same way our brothers are taking over their women and best jobs in johannesburg. we have 'penetrated' them front and back....especially their fine women, get it ? ![]() |
Msauza: When South Africa sneezes the whole of Africa catches the flu.did Seleka rebels catch flu too ? south african army was only able to sneeze under french army protection at CAR airport ![]() |
[size=16pt]Israel speaks about Nigerian Military[/size] "Nigeria will soon overcome its present security challenges and emerge stronger. You must win this battle. The people of this country are capable of overcoming these challenges; it is a matter of time and training. Nigerians are skilful and intelligent and you have no option than to win this battle." http://allafrica.com/stories/201206250585.html the most powerful nations of the world like America and Israel continue to rate nigerian nation and its military power very highly, while some south africans with zero military and international exposure type and post their private negative dreams and negative wishes of envy/inferiority complex on their laptop keypad using a 33% brain.
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LT SHANGY: I stopped commenting on this topic a long time ago due to 2 main factorsnigeria also has defence pact with pakistan, very strong pact , nigerian navy uses pakistani submarines to train untill we buy ours in a few years time. http://allafrica.com/stories/201204110277.html |
Msauza: Orania remain part of South Africa even to this day. Their schools are still funded by our government.that is south africa's domestic time bomb waiting to explode. will be worse than Rhino poachers ![]() . |
NaijaPikinGidi: Cause a provocation and see how Nigeria will swiftly get the party rocking!south africa trembles when nigeria roars ![]() |
has anyone ever noticed on this forum that one misled s.perm collided with the wrong ovary egg in the south-most nation of africa? |
. new year 2013 update on african military rankings...no comment, because.... res ipsa loquitor ![]() .
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