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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:20pm On Aug 05, 2013
Msauza: Indeed, 419 brain will never think beyond its host. You are making unfounded claims by saying that SA had NATO support during the bush war. SA was under a heavy arms embago, yet had to fight dual war, both at home and in Angola without any military support from anyone. The US and China support was not of military nature but merely ideological. Initially SA challenged Angola in support of UNITA and the communist backed Angola called for the support of Fidel Castro and Russia. Both Cuba and Russia sent military support by pledging number of troops to fight on behalf of Angola, but America never pledged any soldiers to fight on behalf of SA. The Apartheid forces were outnumbered in Angola with only few weapons since they could not procure any because of UN sanctions.

MR "SA is not on the list" you have failed in your analysis. Go and make research about the bush war and come with a better improved knowledge to argue.
educate yourself :


It is in this meeting that President Ford told the Chinese: "We had nothing to do with the South African involvement, and we will take action to get South Africa out, provided a balance can be maintained for their not being in". He also said that he had approved 35 million US dollars more (in support of the north) above what had been done before. They discussed and agreed who should support the FNLA or UNITA by which means and in what manner taking into account the sensitivities of the neighbouring countries.

on 20 December 1975, the U.S. Senate passed an amendment banning covert assistance to anti-Communist forces and curtailing CIA involvement in Angola. Later that winter, an amendment to the foreign aid bill sponsored by Dick Clark extended the ban. (Clark Amendment) [111] The US administration resorted to other means of support for FNLA and UNITA of which one was raising mercenaries.

The CIA initiated a covert programme to recruit Brazilians and Europeans, mostly Portuguese and British, to fight in the north of Angola. Other ways of continued support for the FNLA and UNITA were through South Africa and other US client states such as Israel and Morocco.


i wont waste more of my time, i will just add that Israel helped south africa build its nuclear bombs at that time and tested them, France sold the Mirage 2000 jets south africa used just some months before the war started. Britain gave covert support, America provided valuable covert satellite help to south africa.

strategic military advice came from NATO to south africa covertly.

only foolish countires will publish details of covert military assistance on internet the way you foolish south africans think all things must be written on free internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_intervention_in_Angola

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:05pm On Aug 05, 2013
andrewza: Firstly civil war peace keeping missions vs rebels is not the same has fighting a large convistional army.
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show us weblink source that says a peace-keeping mission that went hostile into full scale war in liberia and sierra leone with over 100,000 soldiers fighting and airforce/navy travelling thousands of kilometres, is not a real war, it is a 'fake' war or christmas party. show us that source to prove that its not a war by world standards.

if civil war is not a war, and nigeria has no war experience because Africa's biggest war, the Biafra war is civil war, then why is the world calling vietnam war a war since it is north vietnam vs south vietnam ? and why is korean war called a war since it was north korea vs south korea ?

you see why we insult your south african brains ? you have a strange intellectual problem in the rainbow nation, and it may be hard to medically diagnose, except by spiritual means.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:56pm On Aug 05, 2013
andrewza: Secondadly reading reports from varouses nigerian genrail it come to light. With out USAF air transport and money ecomog would have failed.
source please, quote source weblink, so that i wont insult how you were born grin

90% of ECOMOG troops, armoured vehicles, artillery etc were ocean shipped by nigerian navy huge amphibious landing ships NNS AMBE and NNS OFFIOM.

did USA airforce carry nigerian heavy armour by air ? if i insult you again now people will say....
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:43pm On Aug 05, 2013
Mike..ZA:
The Offensive Begins
10 September 1987
On 10 September 21 Brigade sent 2 battalions
with 5 T-55 tanks across the river, using a mobile
bridge-layer. South African observers, watching
the crossing, were amazed at the over-confident
behaviour of the enemy, with infantrymen
standing around casually, hands in pockets,
watching the crossing.

The Cuban/Faplan offensive had failed.

This offensive had been a Soviet
conception from start to finish. Senior Soviet
officers played a central role in its execution. Over
a thousand Soviet advisers were assigned to
Angola in 1987 to help with Moscow's largest
logistical effort to date in Angola: roughly $1.5
billion in military hardware was delivered that
year. Huge quantities of Soviet equipment were
destroyed or fell into Unita and SADF hands when
Fapla broke into a disorganized retreat... The
1987 military campaign represented a stunning
humiliation for the Soviet Union, its arms and its
strategy. It would take Fapla a year, or maybe
two, to recover and regroup. Moreover the
Angolan military disaster threatened to go from
bad to worse. As of mid-November, the Unita/
SADF force had destroyed the Cuito Cuanavale
airfield and pinned down thousands of Fapla's
best remaining units clinging onto the town's
defensive perimeters." (2)
The results of the campaign up to April 1988
were 4,785 killed on the Cuban/Faplan side, with
94 tanks and hundreds of combat vehicles
destroyed, against 31 South Africans killed in
action, 3 tanks destroyed (SADF tanks entered
the war after the Lomba River campaign) and 11
SADF armoured cars and troop carriers lost. A
total of 9 Migs were destroyed and only 1 SAAF
Mirage shot down.
you see why we call you south africans 33% barins ?

your above post just confirmed my fact, that south africa did not attack cuba/angola in the bush war, south africa was only defending, that keeps casualties low.

your post just proved me right grin if i insult your south african brain now you will say i have bad language, but how can i call a fool a genius ? grin

no source weblink for your post above, sure its a south african war propaganda new medium.

wikipedia says south african air force was hiding away on the ground most of the time from cuban air force because Mig 23 jet was superior to Mirage 2000 jet, so how did you shoot down cuban jets in ratio 9:1 'victory' ?
Satan himself helped you fly ? grin

wikipedia says cuba had about 50,000 soldiers against south african 3,000 frontline, the cuban army was large and mobile enough to encircle and sorrround south africa 4 times over ! yet south african news report that 4,785 cubans k.illed but only 31 south africans killed. so how did you k.ill cuban soldiers in ratio 160:1 ? grin

south africa should be on Guiness book of world record for war k.ill ratios greater than america and russia combined grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:00pm On Aug 05, 2013
saengine: "missile program"......you mean fireworks.

"pefect it's missile technology".....you mean buy more fireworks.

I'll come back to this forum in 2065 when you've developed the expertise to design and build anti submarine missiles. Keep lying to yourselves. Your Generals make big wonderful statements to impress illiterates, but behind the scenes there's not much going on. Who was the General in the air force who said a Nigerian built UAV was the first for Africa? Probably 99% of Nigerians believed him, now they're on other forums telling the world that Nigeria is the leader in UAV technology on the continent. Keep lying to yourselves.



it is more difficult to build a warship than to build a missile. hope you are smart enough to know that. warships are the largest and most complex military weapons in the world.

travel out of your little box in south africa, go to a world technology forum, open your mouth wide and say ..."a country like nigeria that is building 70% of a modern year 2013 Type 056 stealth guided missile modular multi-purpose warship with full technology transfer from china to be completed next year 2014, cannot build and test missiles"...



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18300358


then hear what the world forum will ask you....asking if you came to the seminar straight from out-patient ward of a specialist psychiatic hospital

[img]http://www.naval.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Corvette-056.jpg[/img]

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:42pm On Aug 05, 2013
Msauza: 419 brain is too small to develop missiles. We want a link to convince us.
...and what do we gain from convincing you ? money, women, wine ? you are not that important you know grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:41pm On Aug 05, 2013
Mike..ZA:
You're eating the humble pie. Resorting to insults,to dress your naked stupid.ity.
if you talk like a m.adman, dont expect to be addressed as a genius grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:38pm On Aug 05, 2013
LT SHANGY: The missiles being developed at Epe, Lagos are being discovered to be anti-submarines and anti-ship missiles. The Nigerian navy are working round-the-clock to be near-perfectly efficient in naval warfare. Currently acquiring ASW skills in pakistan.
nigeria is pumping money into the Epe missile project big time !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
LT SHANGY: please, my fellow NIGERIANS, You don't have to blame the south africans for their mistakes and erred comments. They (south africans) have failed to realise the huge gap between the apartheid SADF and post-apartheid SANDF. The SADF was a hugely strong military, well equipped and well funded. This present SANDF is nothing to write home about, budget constrains has forced them to ground their grippens and rooivaks. They re not well funded and equipped. This is my ranking

1) EGYPT
2) ALGERIA
3) NIGERIA
4) SOUTH AFRICA
5) ETHIOPIA
6) ZIMBWABWE
7) MORROCCO
8] SUDAN
9) KENYA
10) CHAD
i agree with some but not all.

may i humbly give my reasons in summary ? though i will find time this month to explain my own rankings in detail.

your rankings sir ;

1) EGYPT.....undisputed champion, too many weapons. only defeated by mighty israel and no one else can beat egypt except a world class power. egypt is in the world's top 15 military powers. best war experience in africa. defeated libya.

2) ALGERIA.....very low combat experience, no war records of large scale combat like Biafra war/ECOMOG. soldiers very strong physically, equal in stamina to nigeria and ethiopia. nigeria only has a slight edge over algeria in military capacity....nigeria has far better war experience, recce/spying, air defense, weapons industry.

3) NIGERIA....best military combat training/doctrine, best war history in africa. best strategic and tactical recce/spy technical capability in africa (satellites and spy balloons), great ability to watch the enemy from long ranges without being noticed. largest and most modern brown water navy in the whole world, one of the world's most active armies on different terrain. best anti-aircraft defense in africa and still improving it with help from india now. building 70% the first stealth guided missile warship in africa with china's help. rapidly growing defence industry.

4) SOUTH AFRICA......poor military intelligence, poor military strategy, poor quality of soldiers many unprofessional guerrilla freedom fighters holding officer ranks, poor health of soldiers due to HIV, poor combat experience, no single record of war victory, too much dependence on equipment with long range avoiding contact with the enemy to gain battle confidence. too many expensive european equipment hard to maintain and not in service. best defence industry in africa. one of the best 5 air forces in africa. one of the best 5 navies in africa. army is very unreliable. army size is too small to defend land size. shortage of manpower in all armed forces. shortage of jet pilots. insufficient artillery howitzers. soldiers afraid to die.

5) ETHIOPIA....no water, landlocked, cannot be attacked sea, every powerful navy in africa is rendered useless against them. second best military record of war victories after nigeria. the best air force pilots in africa.

6) ZIMBWABWE.....poor economy, too few modern equipment. however, a well trained army, one of africa's best. low combat experience.

7) MORROCCO........more powerful than south africa now. 52 units latest year 2013 version of F-16 jets, best navy warship in africa (2013 FREMM FRIGATE), about 330,000 soldiers regular/reserve, about 15 years war experience against polisario forces of western sahara. also fought brief war with spain recently year 2002, moroccan military was defeated by spain.

8] SUDAN.....many years of war experience, good air force, usually underestimated, but had a good airforce many years ago even before nigeria started.

9) KENYA....bold and confident army, not cowardly like south africa. good battlefield tactics. good army equipments, poor air force equipments. did well against somalia's alshabaab i.slamic m.ilitants

10) CHAD.....same as kenya above. bold courageous army. defeated libya. lost brief border war with nigeria.

Eritrea and Angola are superior to Sudan, Kenya, Chad in terms of weaponry and war experience of about 20 years against south africa, also against UNITA.


PHOTO : SOLDIERS IN THE ARMY OF KENYA

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:15am On Aug 05, 2013
Msauza: Nigeria has zero combat history with other nations. grin grin
ask Chad and Cameroon grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:12am On Aug 05, 2013
andrewza: There were problems, this took place during bad times for the SANDF yet even so the coup was stoped, lestho is stabel and it economy recoverd.
south africans always have an excuse for their military failures. is it a curse ? grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:09am On Aug 05, 2013
Mike..ZA:
The only war Nigeria has ever fought alone was against Boko Haram,which they're begging for ceasefire now.
does your father have a second wife that is 'doing' you voodoo remote control ? grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:06am On Aug 05, 2013
Mike..ZA:
The late Lt Gen Deon Ferreira (a colonel at the
time and SADF force commander in South East
Angola) was quoted in the Paratus (SADF
publication) of March 1989 after the Lomba Battle
as follows:
"If defeat for South Africa meant the loss of 31
men, three tanks, five armoured vehicles and
three aircraft, then we'd lost. If victory for Fapla
and the Cubans meant the loss of 4,600 men, 94
tanks, 100 armoured vehicles, 9 aircraft and
other Soviet equiptment valued at more than a
billion Rands, then they'd won."
i have posted on this bush war so many times, and i wont repeat it again.

south african military losses in angolan bush war were very small because they did not launch any major offensive to defeat cuba, they only defended a 'frontline' and prevented cuba from entering south africa. the south african frontline vanguard has about 3,000 soldiers, but south african defense line rearguard had about 18,000 soldiers.

most of the fighting was done between cuba/angola/UNITA .

south africa was just playing the defensive role of Taribo West/Joseph Yobo

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:59am On Aug 05, 2013
zetdee: How can a devided country like Nigeria ever fight a war with another country, we know a war would give igbos an opportunity to declare biafra.
the current chief of army staff of nigeria is an igbo man, why is he commanding nigerian army against b.oko h.aram ? he should have declared Biafra as a separate nation.

your dreams never come to pass because you dream after bottles of scotch whisky plus dry gin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:35am On Aug 05, 2013
Mike..ZA:
South Africa intervened when UNITA,was threatened by the Angolan advance south. Remember Nigeria has never fought any war alone,you guys always share ground with other forces.
95% of ECOMOG army was nigerian, 100% of ECOMOG air force was nigerian, 100% of ECOMOG navy was nigerian. 99% of ECOMOG battlefield and HQ command and control was nigerian. 1,000 nigerian soldiers dies in ECOMOG as 90% of all total casualties.

who was fighting then ? Togo republic ? grin

no nation fights war alone most of the time. check war history.

world war II germany/italy/austria/japan joined their military together. america/britain/russia/canada/australia joined their military together.

Arab war Egypt/Algeria/Iran/Jordan/Kuwait/Arab league joined their military together against Israel/plus USA/European covert support.

Falklands war Argentina/USSR covert support vs Britain/USA/NATO covert support

Gulf war Iran/American support vs Iraq/Russian support

Gulf war america/NATO/rest of the world joined their military against iraq/mujahedeen

Afghanistan war america/NATO joined their military together against Taliban/Osama Bin Laden/mujahedeen

Bush war Angola/Cuba/USSR cover support vs South Africa/Israeli, French, American, British and NATO cover support

Badme war Ethiopia/Russian support vs Eritrea/Ukranian support

who fight war alone ? a foolish nation that has zero diplomatic connections and international recognition.

you drank your beer directly from brewery factory production tank today grin

show us any war south africa fought and won clearly in victory grin

http://beegeagle./2013/01/23/the-real-impact-of-nigerian-ecomog-soldiers-what-you-do-not-get-told/
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:35pm On Aug 04, 2013
CraigB: You need to stop lying about the pictures that you post here.

This is just public transportation in the Western Sahar - Morocco, According to Tumblr.

These are not refugees. Your "fakeness" is not cute.


http://pixdaus.com/western-sahara-public-transportation-sahara-marocco-transpor/items/view/44386/

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/western%20sahara
i dont like to waste my time with you, but let me advise you to get sangoma herbalist help to upgrade your brain from amphibious stage to mammalian stage, you clearly missed one stage in the evolution cycle.

one unknown clueless half witted photographer wrote lines that you read and swallow, you cannot use your b.rain better than his.

polisario liberation front fought a very long war of independence in western sahara against morroco's military.

you cannot generate any creative, informative, and educated comment/post on this thread, you w.aste away valuable hours your young life sniffing around other people's posts/comments looking for something to a.ttack

public transport...public inside the dry vast sandy desert ? public in the streets of sand and no roads no houses anywhere ?

public people in ordinary transport...moving all their life's belongings and properties including their beds/mattresses...?

you are product of a misled s.perm that was fired at the wrong egg

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:22pm On Aug 04, 2013
Msauza: DRC, Burundi, Sudan, etc
south africa has no big military achievment in africa.

Burundi was a piece of cake because the warring sides did not attack south african army like Seleka did. they agreed to ceasfire easily. try that with charles taylor or jonas savimbi.

DRC has no peace yet. Sudan nigerian army was first to land in the north war in Dafur and we stopped the R.ape and G.enocide againt black sudanese by half-arabs sudanese. Nigerian soldiers were attacked at night, some died but we did not run away like south africa in CAR.

South sudan independence from North sudan was AU peace committee of several nations including Nigeria, south africa only has committee chairmanship vested in Thabo Mbeki.

dont steal other nations glosry and give to your 'desperate for recognition' south africa. sharaaap !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:20pm On Aug 04, 2013
Msauza: The french had to come from thousands of miles away to intervene, while your fat generals were warming back side in Nigeria.
France has permanent military intervention force and bases in all former french colonies in west africa since over 60 years ago, that was the reason they were the first to fight in mali.

Nigeria has semi-permanent/long term military intervention force and military bases in all volatile former british colonies of west africa since over 20 years ago doing the hard job Britain's military refused to do like France if doing so well.

Sierra Leone, Liberia, Gambia.

Nigeria is the 'Great Britain' of west africa.....drink second cup of sulphuric acid if you are still breathing


https://www.naijastories.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nigeria-great-nation.jpg

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:09pm On Aug 04, 2013
Msauza: It doesn't matter how you scratch it off, the truth hurts. The reason for the establishment of that brigade is known by you and as for me, check below!

I have Mali on my mind. grin grin
tell the world that both france and nigeria failed in mali....both nations are pulling out grin pick a dictionary and check out the meaning of the word 'failure'and then drink a cupful of sulphuric acid because envy k.ills

France's Military begin Mali withdrawal completely...'defeated' together with Nigerian Military in a failed mission according to south africans' 33% Brains.

http://issakaadams./2013/05/

France's army vehicles pictured as seen withdrawing out of Mali now into Ivory Coast
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:57pm On Aug 04, 2013
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African war refugees...waiting for the AU to save their souls from wars that have no quick end

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:48pm On Aug 04, 2013
Msauza: Your fake Nigerian 100% brain capacity failed to grasp just that small news tabloid. The proposal for the establishment of a Rapid Response force was a South African initiative to have the response force which will rapidly be used to address to the crisis in the continent. That proposal was tabled by Zuma before the AU, because of Nigerias failure to respond rapidly to the Mali crises.

However, Solomon Ayele Dersso above from SA which has already made itself available to join the force, he cited Nigeria, Ethiopia and Kenya as military that has capacity to contribute troops into this envisaged force. Did you expected him to name South Africa if is SA which brought about this idea?

south african military can only join that african military capacity force by :

1. bribery like SAAB Gripen Jet case
2. donation of large chunk of operational funds
3. gate-crashing through through front door
4. jumping fence through the back door
5. lobby for second rate list of those who failed to make the first list based on merit.



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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:42pm On Aug 04, 2013
Msauza: Your fake Nigerian 100% brain capacity failed to grasp just that small news tabloid. The proposal for the establishment of a Rapid Response force was a South African initiative to have the response force which will rapidly be used to address to the crisis in the continent. That proposal was tabled by Zuma before the AU, because of Nigerias failure to respond rapidly to the Mali crises.

However, Solomon Ayele Dersso above from SA which has already made itself available to join the force, he cited Nigeria, Ethiopia and Kenya as military that has capacity to contribute troops into this envisaged force. Did you expected him to name South Africa if is SA which brought about this idea?
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West Africa and North Africa Called for African High Command Military Intervention Force Over Ten Years Ago

http://www.modernghana.com/news/112401/1/international-dilatory-rhetoric-on-liberia-a-call-.html

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2012-08-14-standing-by-to-standby-the-african-peacekeeping-force-with-more-problems-than-solutions/#.Uf55TZLvsbg

QUOTE :

"The idea of a pan-African military force goes back a long way. Kwame Nkrumah, the father of pan-Africanism himself, envisaged an African High Command to prevent foreign intervention and help liberation movements wage wars against colonial governments.

More recently, Muammar Gaddafi proposed an African Army, offering to equip and house the army in purpose-built barracks in his hometown of Sirte.



In place of the African Army, the African Union came up with something else: the African Standby Force (ASF). The idea was that Africa needed to have some kind of military force on standby to intervene before situations could spiral out of control; to avoid situations like Rwanda in 1994, where decisive and early military intervention might have saved millions of lives. Think of the ASF as firefighters, ready and waiting to be dispatched to put out whatever conflagration is threatening the continent and its people.

This wouldn’t be a standing army, or even a permanent battalion under AU control, as suggested by the committee tasked with addressing the issue. In 2003, when the ASF was formalized, countries were still too scared of letting the Commission in Addis Ababa command its own firepower.

Instead, personnel would be drawn as needed from one of five standby lists drawn up by each of the AU’s five regions. On each list would be 60 civilians, 720 police officers and 5,000 armed forces personnel (army, navy and air force). Each region and its list would be on standby for six months at a time, making it less likely that one region would have to deal with multiple conflicts at once. A central planning office in Addis would coordinate among the regions."

contrary to some shameless lies by a south african 'mental case' on this forum, saying that south african military is already part of this brigade....fact is that the brigade has not even been formed yet. grin


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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West Africa and North Africa Called for African High Command Military Intervention Force Over Ten Years Ago

http://www.modernghana.com/news/112401/1/international-dilatory-rhetoric-on-liberia-a-call-.html

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2012-08-14-standing-by-to-standby-the-african-peacekeeping-force-with-more-problems-than-solutions/#.Uf55TZLvsbg

QUOTE :

"The idea of a pan-African military force goes back a long way. Kwame Nkrumah, the father of pan-Africanism himself, envisaged an African High Command to prevent foreign intervention and help liberation movements wage wars against colonial governments.

More recently, Muammar Gaddafi proposed an African Army, offering to equip and house the army in purpose-built barracks in his hometown of Sirte.



In place of the African Army, the African Union came up with something else: the African Standby Force (ASF). The idea was that Africa needed to have some kind of military force on standby to intervene before situations could spiral out of control; to avoid situations like Rwanda in 1994, where decisive and early military intervention might have saved millions of lives. Think of the ASF as firefighters, ready and waiting to be dispatched to put out whatever conflagration is threatening the continent and its people.

This wouldn’t be a standing army, or even a permanent battalion under AU control, as suggested by the committee tasked with addressing the issue. In 2003, when the ASF was formalized, countries were still too scared of letting the Commission in Addis Ababa command its own firepower.

Instead, personnel would be drawn as needed from one of five standby lists drawn up by each of the AU’s five regions. On each list would be 60 civilians, 720 police officers and 5,000 armed forces personnel (army, navy and air force). Each region and its list would be on standby for six months at a time, making it less likely that one region would have to deal with multiple conflicts at once. A central planning office in Addis would coordinate among the regions."

contrary to some shameless lies by a south african 'mental case' on this forum, saying that south african military is already part of this brigade....fact is that the brigade has not even been formed yet. grin


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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[size=16pt]south african military not rated on african capacity list

.............says south african research institute [/size]


http://www.bdlive.co.za/africa/africannews/2013/05/30/news-analysis-doubt-over-aus-stop-gap-intervention-force


Solomon Ayele Dersso, senior researcher on conflict prevention at South Africa’s Institute for Security Studies, said the emergency force could work since the troops for it would be volunteered by member states with proven military capacity, instead of trying to include soldiers from every member state, as the full standby brigade proposes.

"One thing that’s different about the new force … is that it will be based on the principle of military capacity," he said.
He cited Nigeria, Ethiopia, Chad and Kenya as states that have proven their military capacity over the past 18 months or so.


"It’s nice to say all member states are equal, but we live in an Orwellian world where some states are more equal than others ... and not all are in a position to make a contribution to peace and security", Mr Dersso said.


Who has the strongest military in Africa after Egypt ? read above...Nigeria is 2nd, Ethiopia is 3rd

source of ranking :

Research report from South Africa’s Institute for Security Studies


http://www.bdlive.co.za/africa/africannews/2013/05/30/news-analysis-doubt-over-aus-stop-gap-intervention-force


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:20pm On Aug 04, 2013
sambos994: I wonder, what happens if we nationalize MTN Nigeria?
we take over their jobs, same way our brothers are taking over their women and best jobs in johannesburg. we have 'penetrated' them front and back....especially their fine women, get it ? grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:15pm On Aug 04, 2013
Msauza: When South Africa sneezes the whole of Africa catches the flu. grin grin grin
did Seleka rebels catch flu too ? south african army was only able to sneeze under french army protection at CAR airport grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:12pm On Aug 04, 2013
[size=16pt]Israel speaks about Nigerian Military[/size]

"Nigeria will soon overcome its present security challenges and emerge stronger. You must win this battle. The people of this country are capable of overcoming these challenges; it is a matter of time and training. Nigerians are skilful and intelligent and you have no option than to win this battle."

http://allafrica.com/stories/201206250585.html

the most powerful nations of the world like America and Israel continue to rate nigerian nation and its military power very highly, while some south africans with zero military and international exposure type and post their private negative dreams and negative wishes of envy/inferiority complex on their laptop keypad using a 33% brain.


Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:52pm On Aug 04, 2013
LT SHANGY: I stopped commenting on this topic a long time ago due to 2 main factors

1) I have observed from the numerous comments that EGYPT is undisputedly the strongest military force in Africa.

2) that this topic has for a long time now been derailed, it has now been reduced to a platform for country bashing and name-callings(between south africans and Nigerians).

Lemme make my points, the NIGERIAN ARMED FORCES is a lean, highly skilled, professional fighting force. Having been active 1959, there have never been a single idle moment for the military, being the most feared military in Africa, they have just recorded the first military feat in africa, in the just concluded AFISMA operation in mali, they took the town of banambe without firing a single shot. No Africa nation would want a conflict with Nigeria(i bet the chadians won't forget the island war of 1983(undocumented)in a hurry). NIGERIA has military pacts with russia, ukraine, india and china(formost military equipments manufacturers on earth).
nigeria also has defence pact with pakistan, very strong pact , nigerian navy uses pakistani submarines to train untill we buy ours in a few years time.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201204110277.html
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:46pm On Aug 04, 2013
Msauza: Orania remain part of South Africa even to this day. Their schools are still funded by our government.
that is south africa's domestic time bomb waiting to explode. will be worse than Rhino poachers grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:42pm On Aug 04, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Cause a provocation and see how Nigeria will swiftly get the party rocking! grin grin grin. We showed SA a snippet during your overzealous Yellow fever card provocation and you came apologizing on national and international television just as Zuma sent through to President Jonathan emissaries with a formal letter of apology and a promise to be of good behavior! grin grin
south africa trembles when nigeria roars grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:49pm On Aug 03, 2013
has anyone ever noticed on this forum that one misled s.perm collided with the wrong ovary egg in the south-most nation of africa? shocked
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:45pm On Aug 03, 2013
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new year 2013 update on african military rankings...no comment, because....
res ipsa loquitor grin

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