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Msauza: This is indeed funny. The very same Americans listed South Africa as a developed country in the recent CIA world fact book, but still you disputed that sudden graduation and now tell me why should we believe that crap by the Americans?

use your coconut head. the focus here is on military power and international influence, not infrastructural development, you mofo !

the american army officers with detailed african experience merely confirmed all we have been arguing about since page 1 to page 600 of this thread. you lose south africa, you lose finally ! zuma just bowed his head down to obama for nothing o !

better don't let envy of nigeria's divine glory give you epilepsy

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[size=16pt] poor training : south african army anti-aircraft gun turns anti-south african [/size]


"12 October 2007 :

Nine South African National Defence Force (SANDF) soldiers were killed and 14 injured by the system during a training exercise at the SANDF Battle School at Lohatla in the Northern Cape province. A line of 8 cannons were engaging a tank hulk in manual ground fire with the guns at low elevation and the maximum traverse of the barrels secured by safety poles and tethers.

The rightmost gun jammed while firing and had to be repaired by technicians. Shortly after the gun was cleared to fire again, the gun malfunctioned, entered automatic mode, broke through the traversal-restriction safety mechanisms and began firing, striking the other guns along the firing line. Initial reports suggested that the malfunction was caused when the gun underwent an unexplained hang fire of the explosive 35mm ammunition in the magazines, causing the turret to swing uncontrolled through 360-degrees firing wildly until it exhausted its remaining ammo. A statement issued by the South African Defense Minister Mosiuoa Lekota, however, stated that the gun had inexplicably traversed 90-degrees to the left, breaking through the safety mechanisms, and fired only a 1/8 second long burst, striking all of the soldiers located on the right hand side of their guns. The accident report published by the SANDF in January 2008 blamed "undetected mechanical failure—which the manufacturers of an anti-aircraft gun allegedly kept secret". The report says the gun malfunctioned because a spring pin, which is the size of a matchstick, sheared.

Other sources blamed poor training and poor safety procedures in the south african military. "

33% brains on display above

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oerlikon_35_mm_twin_cannon

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now at page 600, this thread has proved its point beyond reasonable doubt......

thread topic/question : who has the strongest millitary in africa ?

thread topic/answer : EGYPT

thread topic conclusion : so who is next to Egypt as second rank military power in Africa ?

thread answer from neutral source America :

[size=16pt]American Army Declares Nigeria As Africa's Number One Power[/size]

https://dvsl3w2q45hb8.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/JONATHAN11.jpg

QUOTE :

"Well, Nigerians may derive a similar psychology from a 103-report released recently by the U.S. Army’s Strategic Studies Institute.

Douglas C. Lovelace, Jr., the director of the institute, warns that Nigeria is too important for American policymakers to ignore or misjudge.

“Nigeria is the key country in sub-Saharan Africa for the success of American policy and interests, but is poorly understood by policymakers,” Lovelace writes in the foreword to the report. “Nigeria is an African powerhouse blessed with a large growing economy, huge reserves of oil and natural gas, the largest population in Africa, a rich cultural diversity, and powerful regional influence.”

The document proper was authored by two retired veterans of the U.S. Army and Foreign Service, Gerald McLoughlin and Clarence J. Bouchat. McLoughlin is identified as “a retired U.S. Foreign Service Officer with extensive service in sub-Saharan Africa. "

SOURCE :

http://www.punchng.com/columnists/punchwise/us-army-why-nigeria-is-so-important-to-the-us/



can we close this thread on this page 600 ? just asking. thread topic/question has been answered perfectly


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Msauza: Since when are rhinos human being?

you soweto mofos just complained that nigerians eat their pets, dogs, goats etc. since when did animals become human beings ? why bthe complaints ? then s.hut up !

anyway, a Rhino is a creature of God like you @msauza, why should it be killed if not for meat, why kill then for their horns ?

that is animal brutality, do it in america you go straight to jail

since you dont care about being dehorned, one day some south african criminals will castrate you own lower horn with the hope that it will a medicine that will cure your HIV infected Gays.

south african army loses war against Rhino poachers, worse every year !

https://www.projectrhinokzn.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SA-poaching-stats-2000-2011.jpg

Msauza: Since you refused to attach a link that would convince us is better if you keep quite because there is nothing that we will believe about you so called secret missile programme.

why should i bother to convince a fool ? i post for nigerians to know what goes on, nairaland is a nigerian forum, you soweto guys are poachers here, you have no such intellectually stimulating form is south africa unless your european masters 'transfer some more brain technology' to you .

beegeagle is my source, he does not tell lies because he is not trying to impress anybody. he values his public image and credibility more than you south africans value your wives at home.

i will post it as many times as i wish. beegeagle too will continue to remind the world. final.

http://beegeagle./2012/07/24/nigerian-air-force-begin-work-on-bomb-defusing-robot-receive-enquiries-on-made-in-nigeria-amebo-1-uav-brazilian-military-institute-to-partner-naf/

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i will continue to post update information on nigeria's missile program and nobody will stop me, get it ?

beegeagle is posting it and i too will post it. period.

http://beegeagle./2012/07/24/nigerian-air-force-begin-work-on-bomb-defusing-robot-receive-enquiries-on-made-in-nigeria-amebo-1-uav-brazilian-military-institute-to-partner-naf/

saengine: Oh ok so you dont have proof thats what you're saying? Just word of mouth from illiterate farmers. Ok thanks.
So lets all stop asking each other for anymore links because now you're trusting the word of people you dont even know. Prove to me that the people who live around the rocket site werent lied to when they asked about the rocket. Show me proof they werent lied to. You see how hard that is. No credible link, no rocket range simple. Keep dreaming.

you did not wait for me to complete writing my post you dunce !


you want nigerian long range missile project at Epe lagoon base to die because south african Thorgo Cruise missile project died due to lack of funds. nigeria is pumping oil dollars to fund our own project ahead of all other african countries, we dont use military budget for such things. nigeria has $50 billion cash reserve !


beegeagle says:
July 24, 2012 at 3:35 pm
We have taken a bold leap forward since 2011, gentlemen. So let us have a recap:

Military-Security Alignment

* 4 satellites in orbit wef 2003
(two of three launched in 2011- NigeriaSatX and NIGCOMSAT-1R possess military applications)

* 100 military personnel trained to operate surveillance satellite

PROTOTYPES

* $500m Aerostar/Seastar UAV and USV systems, eleven coastal radar stations, DA42 MPP turboprops, Beechcraft King Air 350 MPA and Alenia ATR42-500 MPA Surveyor planes

* Army-owned mini-UAVs

PROTOTYPES

* Medium range rockets(70km)
* Amebo-III UAV(NAF)
* Bomb-defusing robot(NAF)
* UAV(Army)
* 81mm mortar
* Target Acquisition Machine(NA)

PRODUCTION

* 31 metre Seaward Defence Boat
* Igirigi APC
* Flak jackets
* Night Vision Goggles
* OBJ rifles

What have I left out? These gains must be sustained.

http://beegeagle./2012/07/24/nigerian-air-force-begin-work-on-bomb-defusing-robot-receive-enquiries-on-made-in-nigeria-amebo-1-uav-brazilian-military-institute-to-partner-naf/

saengine: And i said last time dont give me so called proof from illiterate bloggers. What qualifications do they have to say 70km or 120km? They saw it flying with their naked eye for 70km? Post a link from qualified sources showing that a Nigerian rocket has flown 120km, otherwise keep your fairytale to yourself. You arent the only Nigerian on here.....if you're too lazy to answer i'll ask the rest. Not forcing you.

Amatuers who assemble rockets on the weekend still produce higher quality products than Nigerian Phd and Masters. They have other jobs. You guys do the same thing day in day out, but stil cant catch them.

listen here you this mumu, no country in the world will post or publish details of its missile program for public information unless it is looking for export market or trying to threaten other countries. if that kind of s.tupid publication of a nations ongoing missile tests makes sense to you, then y.ou are s.enselss in reality

beegeagle never disputed it and he has reputation for honesty and integrity, no post is shown on beegeagle immediately you comment, the man personally reads and edits every single post. nigerian minister of state for defence confirmed it publicly without revealing details.

those who say 70km and 120km improvement say they live around the test area and could ask workers in the base or interact with the people resident around them and share little tips of information, nothing detailed. use your brain to think or you have to be spoon fed before your brain ignites some little gas combustion ?

you want nigerian long range missile project at Epe lagoon base to die because south african Thorgo Cruise missile project died due to lack of funds. nigeria is pumping oil dollars to fund our own project ahead of all other african countries, we dont use military budget for such things. nigeria has $50 billion cash reserve !

beegeagle says:
July 24, 2012 at 3:35 pm
We have taken a bold leap forward since 2011, gentlemen. So let us have a recap:

Military-Security Alignment

* 4 satellites in orbit wef 2003
(two of three launched in 2011- NigeriaSatX and NIGCOMSAT-1R possess military applications)

* 100 military personnel trained to operate surveillance satellite

PROTOTYPES

* $500m Aerostar/Seastar UAV and USV systems, eleven coastal radar stations, DA42 MPP turboprops, Beechcraft King Air 350 MPA and Alenia ATR42-500 MPA Surveyor planes

* Army-owned mini-UAVs

PROTOTYPES

* Medium range rockets(70km)
* Amebo-III UAV(NAF)
* Bomb-defusing robot(NAF)
* UAV(Army)
* 81mm mortar
* Target Acquisition Machine(NA)

PRODUCTION

* 31 metre Seaward Defence Boat
* Igirigi APC
* Flak jackets
* Night Vision Goggles
* OBJ rifles

What have I left out? These gains must be sustained.

http://beegeagle./2012/07/24/nigerian-air-force-begin-work-on-bomb-defusing-robot-receive-enquiries-on-made-in-nigeria-amebo-1-uav-brazilian-military-institute-to-partner-naf/



nigeria never told anybody it produced igirigi APC until it was ready for army use, then you think such country will publish ongoing missile development program in newspapers just to inform one fool of a @saengine ? slowpoke !

the american rocketry enthusiasts source you posted confirms that one of them is the CEO of an american aerospace technology company, and you call that man a without relevant technical qualifications....you really are a dummy indeed

i proved to you two fools @andrewza and @saengine, that fools dont build strategic rockets, fools build christmas firecrackers

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agaugust: .
https://logbaby.com/files/logo/13835.jpg


[size=16pt]American Army Declares Nigeria As Africa's Number One Power[/size]



QUOTE :

"Well, Nigerians may derive a similar psychology from a 103-report released recently by the U.S. Army’s Strategic Studies Institute.

Douglas C. Lovelace, Jr., the director of the institute, warns that Nigeria is too important for American policymakers to ignore or misjudge.

“Nigeria is the key country in sub-Saharan Africa for the success of American policy and interests, but is poorly understood by policymakers,” Lovelace writes in the foreword to the report. “Nigeria is an African powerhouse blessed with a large growing economy, huge reserves of oil and natural gas, the largest population in Africa, a rich cultural diversity, and powerful regional influence.”

The document proper was authored by two retired veterans of the U.S. Army and Foreign Service, Gerald McLoughlin and Clarence J. Bouchat. McLoughlin is identified as “a retired U.S. Foreign Service Officer with extensive service in sub-Saharan Africa. "

SOURCE :

http://www.punchng.com/columnists/punchwise/us-army-why-nigeria-is-so-important-to-the-us/


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today's early morning post repeated second time, for the deaf, dumb, and blind south african citizens.


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saengine: Back to milirary stuff.....still waiting for proof that Nigeria has a 120km rocket. All Nigerian posters on here say 120km. Please show us the link that states such.

are you a d.eaf, d.umb and b.lind combination ? that thing has been posted repeatedly, first the 70km from beegeagle bloggers, then the 120km update. who cares what you believe ? you be God ? you are nigeria's supervisor ? who cares about you anyway ? who ?

you promised to come back and prove to me that the american/australian amateur rockets you posted are not built by the technical experts of the USA government registered and regulated rocketry clubs.

you think i will forget ? post the comments you promised to use to thrash me, since you sit down in soweto and know more about america than an american citizen.

Mike..ZA:
Egypt doesn't have the money to fund operations. If the USA was to cut aid to Egypt,their equipment would rust like Libya's air force under Muammar. I always challenged you on the ground of: which country on the continent can fund operations and produce quality weapons. In a war situation against another country,with both countries slapped with sanctions and arms ermbago.

show us weblink source of UN charter/regulations that says any countries that fight a war will be slammed with weapons importation embargo, show us that law, dummy !

South Africa, GDP $578 billion

Egypt, GDP $ 548 billion

Source : CIA world factbook

you think the gap is very wide ? you think south africa is a paradise of wealth and other africans live economic collapse ?

the white-men really used that apartheid to enslave your south african b.rains, put it in a tiny box, padlocked it, threw away the key into atlantic ocean

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[size=16pt]Mali War :

France's Military begin Mali withdrawal completely...'defeated' together with Nigerian Military in a failed mission according to south africans' 33% Brains [/size]


http://issakaadams./2013/05/


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Mike..ZA:
You should be thankful to South Africa that it has put to jail the MEND leader.

did south african army capture MEND leader in battle ?

your army cannot even capture poachers de-horning your precious Rhinos in homeland bush.

south african army special forces entered niger delta mangrove swamp forests and creeks to capture MEND leader, right ?

nobody will even find south african soldiers d.ead b.odies for b.urial, nigerian delta swamp will be their g.raveyard

Mike..ZA:
Boko Haram evaporated? Your government begged for a ceasefire agreement.

[size=16pt]nigerian army displays B0K0 H.ARAM weapons captured in battles[/size]


The military spokesman Chris Olukolade said in a statement that militants fleeing towards neighboring Chad and Niger are being taken care of by the military.

“Advancing troops also observed a few shallow graves believed to be those of hurriedly buried members of the terrorist groups killed in the fighting, but those who fled were confronted by the army” he said.

General Olukolade further said that the 120 militants who were arrested were being interrogated in custody bringing to a total number of more than 200 the number of militants the army says it has arrested.

http://issakaadams./2013/05/


[img]http://issakaadams.files./2013/05/198519-boko-haram-arrest.jpg?w=640[/img]


anybody that posts comments here again that B0K0 H.ARAM is defeating nigerian army is proving himself to be a wrong choice ovary egg mistakenly fertilized by the wrong s.perm


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paniki: So why have Nigerians allowed this thread to reach 600 pages if the answer is so simple? I know that your trolling contributed around 100 spam pages but still.

dont blame nigerians.

south africans were the ones claiming to be the strongest military in africa from pages 1 to 600 on this forum just because they have hollywood style photos/videos from DENEL and SANDF. photos dont win wars. warriors win wars.

we nigerians proved them wrong many times and they still argue.

even algeria and ethiopia will defeat south africa's 'seleka tested' army, nigeria is even too much for south africa to touch, we will not leave any remnants of south african army the way seleka did, nigeria will delete every soweto man in military uniform !

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this proves our claims that south africa's infrastructure and technology is mostly european transfers by european brains from european countries paid for with south africa's mineral resources as europeans milk mandela's nation dry due to the low performance of their local 33% brains

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NaijaPikinGidi: Like I said I can't count on anything smart coming from your blunt proboscis ! What resources are you talking stupidly about? The gold and platinum that is mined in South Africa and shipped off to China and around the western world only to be returned expensive as finished products? You must be starving yourself of those cheap things you suck! Nigerian/Chinese joint companies will continue to build our roads and infrastructure !!

Hopefully, your weak brain can analyse the information presented by the links below:

South Africa builds nothing!! All you currently do is get foreign skills and technology to replicate in South Africa what originally existed eslewhere.
http://www.tollroadsnews.com/node/4380


At least 65% of over US$500million in tolls from your Sanral-built gantried-roads is owned by foreign-owned Kapsch Group (http://www.kapsch.net/).

And when all is said and done you are the same people who are worse-off in huge debts and poverty as a result of bad infrastructure investments and offers fom your American and European masters! Will your COSATU and OUTA and civil society ever win the case against your SANRAL tolling monster?
http://www.economist.com/node/21554553

Unlike South Africa, Nigeria will build roads that will not become financial burdens to her citizens hence we have secured lowest interest financing from China for a broad range of infrastructure development projects ... Again something you can never comprehend or wrap your empty behead around!

We are much smarter than you South African lot!

nice work bros !


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zetdee: Lol at the US flattering their biggest puppet, wonder why obama didn't bother visiting that ......

Obama visited south africa, ate your food, drink your wine, he no dash you one dollar despite how president zuma bowed down for this his son's age mate

nigeria went to china and came back with $25 Billion funds and new defence pact and new economic pact with china, the world most powerful economy today.

zuma bow down for Obama tire and the americano yankee no dash soweto one single shishi or kobo chei, o ma se o !

Msauza: Poaching is not really SANDF area of responsibility and merely do it to reinforce security, infact SANDF hunt human poachers like BH. Ever since their final takeover, the rate of decimation has diminished beyond expectation.

i said soon they will start poaching gay d.ickz in south africa, thinking it may have some healing power when grounded and mixed with some juju.

@msauza better keep your safes by wearing iron p.ants

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2smooth2shout: The SANDF deployed 265 soldiers at Kruger National Park and the borders around the park
http://www.dod.mil.za/operations/poaching/rhino.htm
i still have sources that says more troops are still being deployed.
Small fraction indeed.

Msauza: It doesn't matter. There are times when trainers are beaten by their students.

smart way of confessing that seleka rebels beat up south african army. ah ! confession of the truth at last !

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Msauza: The retired US special forces volunteered to transfer their skills on a newly formed South African National Park (SANpark special forces) and Anti-poaching squad.

I repeat, poaching is not a national security threat, but merely a crime. No wonder SANDF is not deploying its troops in full force.

you people are not safe....fire in soweto

its Rhino horns they are cutting now in south africa and selling it for chinese medicine, one day it will be your D.ickz that they will be poaching and selling with the belief that it cures something in trado-medicine.

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zetdee: lmaoo, what a desperate morron, do you actually believe the crap you wrote... the government has not even invested a fraction of our full military resources in fighting rhinoceros poachers yet

so what is your government waiting for ? help from you ancestors ?


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2smooth2shout: Army foils regrouping of terrorists •Arrests group leaders
The plan by a band of terrorists who relocated to Niger Republic to re-mobilise and rearm insurgents with the aim of carrying out fresh terrorist attacks on some Nigerian communities has been foiled.

Also, the leader of the group who was said to have fled Nigeria when the terrorist camps were sacked was reportedly recruiting fresh hands and training them for renewed terrorist activities in Nigeria.

Director, Defence Information, Brigadiar-General Olukolade noted on Thursday in Abuja, that the intention of the group was to focus its attacks on some towns around the Nigeria-Niger Republic border.

Already, he stated that the leader of the group and other cohorts had been arrested by the operatives of the Multi-National Joint Task Force (MNJTF).

“Intelligence operatives of the Multi-National Joint Task Force (MNJTF) had been on the trail of the leader until he was eventually arrested in Karanga, Niger Republic, on Saturday, with the cooperation of Nigerian forces. His other accomplices were later picked up in other villages in Nigeria.

They are currently being interrogated,” Olukolade said.
http://www.tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/component/k2/item/18126-army-foils-regrouping-of-terrorists-%E2%80%A2arrests-group-leaders.html

just posted this to let some people know the mandate of the MNJTF and Nigeria still being the boss of it.

aye aye sir ! salute !

Fynline: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/08/shekau-shot-deposed-boko-haram-spiritual-leader/

BORNO—Sheikh Abubakar Shekau, leader of the violent Islamic sect, Boko Haram, has reportedly been shot and deposed by members of his own sect, Boko Haram.

A new leader, Abu Zamira Mohammed, who is the sect’s leader negotiating with the federal government has been appointed new leader by the group’s Shura Council.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/08/shekau-shot-deposed-boko-haram-spiritual-leader/#sthash.L6BaYqDD.dpuf

Roger that !

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2smooth2shout: see this mugu. you people just love deceiving yourselves. or you mean too strong for them.

The SA Defence Force is investigating its third military aircraft accident in four months after a helicopter crashed in the Kruger National Park on Saturday night, killing all five soldiers on board.

All spokesman Brigadier-General Xolani Mabanga was adamant that the five soldiers were part of the anti-poaching operation. “They were in the Kruger as part of Operation Rhino.

“SA soldiers are at the forefront of fighting the scourge of rhino poaching in our country,” the union’s national secretary, Pikkie Greeff, said in a statement.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/limpopo/sandf-to-probe-knp-air-crash-1.1494025#.UftcD6wUaSo

your military is to weak to fight common poachers. so will they be able to face a full scale insurgency like boko haram?

US special forces helping south african weak military to fight common poachers

so its ordinary animal hunting poachers that are defeating a whole south african 'fine photo' army like this ? chei, chineke God ooooh ! abeg where is DENEL ?


.south african soldier arrives too late...Rhino is already dehorned

https://www.eia-international.org/wp-content/uploads/Rhino-poachied-for-its-horn-in-South-Africa-c-AP-SA.jpg

NaijaPikinGidi: Mr. Shibobo MsauZA has now refused to be a proud South African! He claimed to be a University Military Games veteran yet cannot provide evidence of existence of such in comparison to the world acclaimed ruggedness, quality and level of Nigeria's National Youth Service Corps camps and yearlong civilian cum paramilitary programmes! Show us your dignity or lose whatever is left your 33% dignity. I will Police you on this one!

oga, i dont know what to call this @msauza again o ! i have called him a fool tired, so many times, now i don tire, seriously o

Msauza: Boko Haram killed 15 Nigerian soldiers. Chei!! Boko, if I were to rank you where exactly would I have put you?

http://newsdiaryonline.com/jonathan-says-nigeria-winning-war-on-terror-at-burial-of-soldiers-boko-haram-killed/

[size=16pt]fear of death : south african soldiers refuse to return and face seleka rebels alone[/size]

soldiers are employed to die...nigeria has heroes ....same way american soldiers die in battle against sama bin ladens islamists in afghanistan.

it is south african army that its soldiers dont want to die and refused to return to CAR with full force and fight seleka to a halt.

soldiers who go deliberately into a known battle to attack the enemy and die there are heroes...like nigerian army.

soldiers who refuse presidential call to go into a known battle and die in CAR/seleka revenge are COWARDS...like south african army

south african army resfused to go back to CAR and fight seleka rebels in retaliation becasue they cannot fight alone, instead they chose Congo DRC war so that Tanzanian army other african armies can protect them on the battlefield against M23 Rebels

2smooth2shout: you keep clamouring for modern warfare history. Which modern warfare has south africa engaged in and won.

At least these countries have won wars. Which modern warfare did south africa ever fight?

south africa is fighting modern war against poachers de-horning Rhino's in their animal kingdom

[size=16pt]Bush War Part II, South Africa Surrenders As Usual [/size]

This new surrender announcements came from Edna Molewa, South Africa’s Minister of Water and Environmental Affairs saying : "South Africa cannot continue to be held hostage by the syndicates slaughtering our rhinos, she said in a prepared statement to the media, adding that a “well-regulated trade system” would help all future conservation efforts"

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown/2013/07/12/rhino-horn-south-africa-legalized/

https://www.eia-international.org/wp-content/uploads/Rhino-poachied-for-its-horn-in-South-Africa-c-AP-SA.jpg

https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/11/16/1289909279658/Anti-Poaching-Forces-Esta-003.jpg


south africa admits it has finally failed to defeat Rhino poachers with its all its DENEL drones flying for nothing, so the government is approving the sale of their extinction threatened Rhinos horns after the poachers defeated and humiliated the 'plastic power' of the rainbow nation.

can south africa face B.oko H.aaram ? No, south africa will collapse under such a threat in one month


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Msauza: Can you please compare you Roland SAM with a speed of only Mach 1.3 to our Umkhonto:
Below are umkhonto specification:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto(missile)

Here are Rolands SAMs specifications:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_(missile0

Roland weighs 67Kg and Umkhonto 130Kg

you dummy, umkhonto missile is carried as a warship anti-aircraft weapon by south african valour frigate. nigerian Roland is a land based armoured vehicle carried nigerian army anti-aircraft weapon, you buffooon

how do you compare a ship and a car in reality ? or does south african warships travel on dry land too, on the streets of soweto ?

ode, mumu !