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 Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:05pm On Jul 20, 2013*. Modified: 9:03pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
patriot4: OK, it looks like the thread is getting saner, I will stop posting graphic videos.this thread has its good and bad times. beegeagle has a 24 hour daily moderator, nairaland moderator goes on and off duty, he is very busy with other things in his office and too many other thread/topic numbering maybe hundreds of different topics to monitor on this forum. beegeagle is only for nigerian stuff and may get boring. nairaland is still the best forum for african military discussions in the world. south africa has no web forum as good as nairaland. thats why all their people flock here like ants looking for sugar to steal  4 Likes |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:58pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
andrewza: Did you pull that out your but.show us as a soldier you claim to be, show us how south africa will defeat algeria, then how you will defeat egypt, also how your south africa will defeat ethiopia if you dont show us all these clearly and with proofs, no be ya papa born you . |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:36pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
andrewza: You faild to point out how you would move all guns to the coast, support them on the coast or find and locat our ships. Never mind explian why our ships came in so close to your coast.you failed to use your brain and think. rather your brain always thinks of how nigeria will not be able to mobilize its forces on its own home soil while your own navy is able to sail and fight 5,000km away from south africa. you are really a bottled beer drunken soldier . |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:13pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
andrewza: You do under stand what a blokade is?when you sail naval warships to operate in hostile manner ready to engage into another country's territorial waters...you have made an invasion. invasion can be air, sea, or land. invasion is invasion. period. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:06pm On Jul 20, 2013*. Modified: 1:14am On Jul 21, 2013 |
andrewza: You faid to deaft our navy of your own coast, your air defence faid to deaft our air force now you want to loose on the ground to.your south african navy warships all sank in nigerian coast on your first operation under nigerian army massive artillery firepower, then you played impossible game of 'resurrection from the dead' so that you can sail your already sunk warships backwards to 50km away from nigerian coast after already being made R.I.P your south african air force rooivalk helicopters were shot down by nigerian F-7 jet interceptors PL-9 air to air missiles before you revived them from the dead again and flew backwards 10km away to low sea level to try air to ground missile launch on hidden nigerian artillery behind buildings and trees/bushes you cannot see 10km away at sea level flight just bring enough body bags for your soldiers in your land invasion, we wont offer you free bags in lagos 60,000 man military wants to invade 200,000 man military and defeat the west african power house on home soil . 2 Likes
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| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:31pm On Jul 20, 2013*. Modified: 1:11am On Jul 21, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Don't make me laugh young boy. It is not an old fashioned war tactic,it was proven when America used it during the Gulf war,they even went as far as using Field Marshal Erwin Rommel's tank battle tactics against Iraq Republican Guard's armour. South Africa even trained 11 000 men to execute a "mini blitzkrieg" during the bush war. I'm feeling sorry for you!!!![/quote]sorry dummy, america did NOT use german general rommels tactics of africa corps tank battles in iraq, america uses general pattons tactics that defeated and wiped out general rommel's afrika korps in north africa world war II. please dont venture into war history, i am gonna white-wash you. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:26pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Don't make me laugh young boy. It is not an old fashioned war tactic,it was proven when America used it during the Gulf war,they even went as far as using Field Marshal Erwin Rommel's tank battle tactics against Iraq Republican Guard's armour. South Africa even trained 11 000 men to execute a "mini blitzkrieg" during the bush war. I'm feeling sorry for you!!!![/quote]I know war history 100 times more than you do. its my daily food. Germany launched a land originated attack, air/land to land attack on poland and other coutries of europe. dont drag international war history with me. stick to what you know. Blitzkrieg is a 100% land originated warfare and you are referring to it as a factor of nigerian army invasion of south africa. how do we pass through other countries territory to invade you ? dummy |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:56pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
saengine: Same way as if Algeria will destroy Nigeria the whole algerian navy and army invading force will be sunk to sea bottom by 660 nigerian army coastal artillery guns in 30 minutes. no country in this world can invade nigeria except a super power. .
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| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:52pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Is this you acknowledging that South Africa has the best looking women on the continent?[/quote]not really sir, we just wanna use them for 'supplementary experiments' |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:41pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Sorry but the R100 billion is for the SANDF's "shopping list" for the next 5 to 15 years.[/quote]source please. anyway your aircraft carrier may hoepfully come between year 2030 to 2050 or much later since you are 'window shopping' in dreamland |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:33pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Go to your nearest bookstore and find any book detailing the "20th century's last greatest tank battle" or about the "Blitzkrieg".[/quote]Blitzkrieg is an old fashioned war of year 1939 you dummy ! |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:28pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Msauza: Meanwhile, the death toll of seleka rebels was confirmed by doctors without borders who helped save lives of Seleka Rebels.source please. NOT a south african propaganda news media source. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:22pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Did you hear about funds being made available for project millennium?. The acquisition of a french Amphibious assault ship "helicopter carrier".[/quote]yes. to be purchased in year 2050 for south african navy. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:16pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
saengine: Based on the SANDF Defence Review, it looks as if South Africa is going to spend up to R100billion on arms. Everything from new main battle tanks, surface to air missiles for the army and new support vessels for the Navy. The new Badger IFV programme costing R8billion has pretty much been signed with production set to start in a few months.algeria spends more dollars on new weapons than south africa, algerian army and air force is 10 times better, the algerians will wipe off south africa from the map of africa. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:02pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
saengine: Is this honestly your big reply? Is this the reply you've been blocked for twice? I cant believe this rubbish. More reason for me visiting this forum less and less.you proved nothing my boy ! rather i did teach you new things about rocketry in america that you dont know. i educated you that an american rocketry amateur is a competent trained skilled technician and not a fool on the street that you and @andrewza were saying to confuse people here. i dont care if you visit this forum less and less, how is that my problem ? i dont learn from you, you are the one that learns from me. i read all your 4 sources and all follow the same western world principle, a world you dont qualify to enter i focus on the biggest of your stories because it set a new world record by steve eves http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/rockets/4315103 open you eyes when you read, i said the original post has been changed and reduced in content because of the ban twice. or you dont know english comprehension ? those amateur rockets are not comparable to nigerian rockets, they are low budget entertainment stuff by enthusiasts, they cannot afford multi-million dollar rocketry, i live in american and i know how hard it is for a mere non profit making association of technicians to raise huge funds like the american government or private companies like Boeing or Lockheed. those guys are cash tight and do very cheap things because they dont make money from it. you dont knwo american society realities from your soweto village, or do you ? only big american companies and government can afford a multi-million dollar rocketry project and i stand by it. those amateur technician clubs live on donations and membership fees to operate, and that is small money. your second post proves me right, in new zealand rocketry association the membership fee is $10 per year ! peanuts QUOTE : "So please won't you come and join us. It will be love at first flight! The NZRA website is full of rocketry information about our organization and how you can get started, and is where you can also join up for a mere $10 per year: http://www.nzrocketry.org.nz/." http://www.kiwispace.org.nz/display/PORTAL/Amateur+Rocketry+in+New+Zealand those $10 people are the ones you compare their cash strapped dry fund rocket project with nigerian epe rocket station worth millions of oil dollars ? you are really a dumbo your sources proved me right, the best range among them was in your 4th source i read, and the man in charge is a technical expert in aerospace technology and is CEO of a professionally established space craft company in america with extra dollars to do better than other amateurs. QUOTE : "aerospace pioneer John Carmack, who leads the Texas-based private spaceflight company Armadillo Aerospace - See more at: http://www.space.com/13245-amateur-rocket-qu8k-carmack-prize.html#sthash.BMsr0fql.dpuf" those amateurs test rockets on open sand or field, where is their multi-million dollar control room and radar stations to control a rocket in flight path for long range ? you are all really dumb in south africa only a south african school system's product like you will compare nigerian 120km rocket with an amateur's 1km rocket you ask me which rocket went 1km ? you f.ool with south african 33% education, you dont know mathematics in south africa, a country of dull brains. that your world record breaker amateur rocket range was only 1km : QUOTE : "Rocket Record: The Largest, Heaviest Amateur Rocket Ever Launched Steve Eves broke two world records Saturday, when his 1/10th scale model of the historic rocket—built in his garage near Akron, Ohio—lifted off from a field on Maryland's Eastern Shore. The 36-ft.-tall rocket was the largest amateur rocket ever launched and recovered successfully—and at 1648 pounds, also the heaviest. Eves' single-stage behemoth was powered by nine motors—eight 13,000 Newton-second N-Class motors and a 77,000 Newton-second P-Class motor. (Five Newton-seconds is equivalent to about a pound of thrust.) All told, the array generated enough force to chuck a Volkswagen more than a half-mile—and sent the Saturn V more than 4440 feet straight up . It was arguably the most audacious display of raw power ever generated by an amateur rocket" http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/rockets/4315103 i dont know how long i have to teach all you south africans basic mathematics on this forum ....i thought you said your schools are better yes finer building with duller brains . |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:28pm On Jul 20, 2013*. Modified: 4:29pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Msauza: Is he training himself to kill and rappe innocent civilians?yes, on south african homeland soil invasion....your sweet soweto girls |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:22pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Msauza: You can never hide away from the truth. The HRW exposed your secret.....and so what ? same stories we hear from every war zone in the world since 1939 till today, europe/BOSNIA, asia/VIETNAM, africa/SUDAN, all the same. war will always be war. nothing new nothing different. who cares ? . 1 Like |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:09pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
andrewza: Yes those south african in CAR lost 15 men but killed 800....story according to south african propaganda websites and newpapers |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:05pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
andrewza: You mean were just over 200 soith african solders stood there ground well every one els ran away, then proceded to kill 800 rebels.source please i am currently studying that south africa vs seleka battle with a combat experienced infantry soldier/officer and we are doing a small simulation kind of stuff, current results show you lied, that kill ratio is impossible unless seleka rebels had their hands tied with a chain to their backs. . |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:52pm On Jul 20, 2013*. Modified: 4:26pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
andrewza: Please how does that proof they better than SA. A circuse act or arobics work out does not frighten us.algerian army has the best land based special forces in africa, and their infantry is better than your flabby floppy flippy HIV sick south african army that cannot run on foot around a city for urban/city warfare, they will faint on the streets and die of exhaustion even before algerian AK-47 shoots them nigerian navy has the best water based special forces in africa called the SBS. algeria can invade south africa and defeat you on homeland soil with mandela watching [size=16pt]brand new video of Algerian Military 2013 update : full scale war drills[/size] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz35sdwFbJ8 [size=16pt]algeria will wipe out south africa from africa's map[/size] . |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:40pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
andrewza: Please the artical was written by some one with no internal kknowledge of the SANDF. Nore have we ever point out we have no problems. Only that we the best milltary in Africa.i posted south africa vs egypt on page 540, show us how south africa is the best military in africa |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:35pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]"Nigeria army is not a highly mobile force,than can invade SA from Nambia&Angola".[/quote]please define or explain 'highly mobile army/force' in detail . |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:32pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]You have no military knowledge whatsoever. Stop being an embarrassment to your people.[/quote] [quote author=Mike..ZA]Please Include what happens during the months running up to the war.[/quote]since you said i have no military knowledge, then you who has it, do a real war simulation of south african army invasion of nigeria by sea/atlantic ocean coastline and then i will defend against the attack from nigerian soil. let me give you a tip for your simulation : please your invading army against nigeria should come with a ship load of the new DENEL upgraded body bags equal to the number of soldiers you will land on nigerian coast/shore . |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:55am On Jul 20, 2013 |
. upcoming post for next month...nigerian army invasion of south africa...a simulation of real war (subject to the approval of all nigerians on this nairaland thread/topic) .
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| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:36am On Jul 20, 2013*. Modified: 3:58am On Jul 20, 2013 |
saengine: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/rockets/4315103No, you just embarrassed yourself and misfired as usual i got banned twice for this post for talking too much about rockets and danger they pose to c.ivilians in general, i am nowing changing almost all the content to avaoid a third ban. you got it all wrong man, very wrong. america and the developed countries are far more advanced than south africa that man who built and launched the huge rocket in your post is not the kind of illiterate amateurs you have in soweto republic. let me help your ignorance since you have never stepped beyond the shores of south africa. now see this example ; chika chukwumerije won bronze medal in olympics 2008 but he is called an amateur because he does not earn his living income from taekwondo, he is a professional mechanical engineer. he has learned taekwondo for 25 years under about 10 taekwondo masters and grandmaster in nigeria, germany, south korea, etc. yet he is called an amateur, but does that mean he knows nothing or just little about taekwondo ? will you defeat him in a fight ? by the time you finish fighting him your wife will need a DNA test to identify you @saengine now my local soweto village boy, lets take you on a trip to america by internet since you have never travelled out of your south african village since you were born in america we have people with technical knowledge equal to the professionals, but we call them amateurs because they do not use that knowledge to work for income, they use it for personal adventure and experiments. those people dont form a workers union, they form an association like the one in your source : Maryland State and Delaware State R.ocketry A.ssociation whose member not a novice or naive man, but a trained and skilled technician built the rocket you just talked about. these amatuers are highly skilled world class well trained and experienced craftsmen, including electricians, millwrights, etc the rocketry associations are registered and regulated by american government state by state, thats why this man belongs to state of Maryland state and Delaware state combined group. america will not allow fools to launch rockets into the air without full technical competence on rocketry, or you want his rocket to kiss american airline jet boeing 747 ? there is also a range limit any projectile can be launched into american airspace without government airspace management agency approval with notices sent to your city police and air force wing in your city, or else you get caught for violation of national airspace and you got o jail ! fools can build fireworks to launch into the sky like christmas fire-crackers, but only exper technicians can build a rocket that will travel 120km and be controlled with guidance system or simple recovery system and tracked by radar over its fight path, and built to carry a space craft or an explosive warhead. that amateur's rocket you are dancing about only flew about 1km, nigerian rockets tested at epe station fly 120km. there is a big difference between a national strategic funded project and a recreational enthusiasts association of technicians of rocketry. in america we group our technical experts under two categories, those who earn living income using their craftsmanship called professionals or tradesmen, and those who just use the same craftmaship to do a hobby as enthusiasts called amateurs. M.aryland D.elaware R.ocketry A.sssociation is such an amateur group of technically skilled rocketry crafstmen, not the kind of illiterate people walking on the streets of soweto . i hope you have gotten money to pay your school fees now as you owe me, @saengine my coconut h.ead student |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:16am On Jul 20, 2013 |
https://resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/homework/egypt/images/sp.jpg [size=16pt] South Africa Vs Egypt [/size] Egypt in summary : american F-16 jets 240 chinese F-7 jets 150 french alpha jets 50 chinese JL-8 jets 120 helicopter gunships (includes 60 american apache helicopters) 200 airborne long range early warning and electronic warfare aircraft 8 anti-tank guns 7,000 anti-armour RPG launchers 180,000 anti-tank guided missiles 6,000 shoulder held anti aircraft missile launchers 6,000 shoulder fired anti aircraft missile warheads 30,000 tanks 4,000 infantry fighting vehicles and armoured personnel carriers 13,000 mortars 10,000 mobile rocket launcher systems 1,500 anti-aircraft guns 4,000 anti-aircraft missile launcher systems medium and long range 150 ballistic missiles range 300km to 1,300km warhead units 1,500 submarines (including 2 german type 209) 6 guided missile frigates/corvettes 12 missile fast vessels 25 anti-submarine patrol boats 8 army regular and reserves soldiers 1.5 million any south african who has the courage can post weapons numbers for south africa (no photos please) and let us compare to know who has the strongest military in africa ! . |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:27am On Jul 20, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Let me see you "flexing your military knowledge" boy. You know nothing,insul.ts cover your nake.d stupi.dity with an outfit of shame.[/quote]okay sir, i have made only 2,000 posts on this thread in the 6 months i joined, try go through them all, it wont take you more than 5 minutes to read everything. you dumbo ! |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:24am On Jul 20, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Did you know the South African Police service(SAPS)'s special task force. Are also trained to take part in covert military operations?. Now please wonder why I'm saying this!!![/quote]your pretoria army is weak like jelly fish, no solution yet. now you say you have special police, please let those ones go and pursue the millions of R.apists all over south africa...they dont qualify for seleka battles |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:47pm On Jul 19, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]"Immature military comment". First the Rwandan General won't be commanding your "equipment" like jets, He will give an command to your battalion commander(likely a colonel). Whom will command your boys in the field. Do you remember Iraq's "highway of death"?,General Norman(nicknamed storming norman) gave the order to his field commanders not to allow a single Iraq soldier to leave kuwait city. Then it was for the Air force commanders whom,followed his order and sent Apaches helos,A-10 thunder bolts,F-15s and Cobras etc to bombard the Iraqi forces. What I'm saying is Generals give orders,while the Majors and Colonels lead or command the men in the front lines. Read books about war reports please!!!!![/quote]sir, you have several qualities as a person, but intelligence is not one of them. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:34pm On Jul 19, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Modern weapons or combat?.While Nigeria is still buying planes like that F7,which looks like an upgraded version of the MIG 15 fighter. Modern combat is about long range killing,this is the reason why we have ICBMs which replaced putting thousands of bombers in your enemy's air space. Modern combat is about killing the enemy before he can get close enough to return fire,great example would be the Israelis who heavily trained their tank crews to hit targets in far way distances. Or you want me to compile a list of your obsolete weapons again?[/quote]what was the 'long range' ICBM 'required' distance between south african army and seleka rebels when they uprooted your 'modern' army in CAR ? |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:25pm On Jul 19, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Stop with your "immature military comments". In CAR,Bozize's army abandoned their posts around the city(on our flanks). Giving Seleka a way to cut behind our soldier and ambushed them. On the Nigeria occupying SA joke,here's the thing If Nigeria was about to attack SA and occupy us. Massive air lift of armour would be flown to (Namibia or Angola),which would take time since Nigeria has around 6 C-130 cargo planes. Then the attack will be slow,cause of the semi desert terrain between SA and Namibia. Meaning your tanks will move slow,while being prayed on by fast "moving hard hitting wheeled armoured vehicles" SANDF vehicles like the Rooikat,Ratel 90 and Ratel ATV(Ingwe version). Besides your troops would be terrified,knowing there's a fast moving Artillery system that is able to engage targets 67km or 75 km away with less support.[/quote]from your above post, i can see that you will make a good police officer strategist for invading a den of armed robbers . |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:21pm On Jul 19, 2013 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]You're full of your selves. Countries with strong armed forces like India,are fighting or under the command of a Brazilian General in DRC. Nigerian commanders won't be chosen cause they allow or tell their troops to kill suspicious innocent civilians,like you're doing now in northern Nigeria.[/quote]your south african half b.rain equates brazil to rwanda. rwanda has no single jet fighter and they want to command nigerian air force squadron of jets and helicopter gunships you are so dull b.rained south african army and air force in congo DRC too can agree to be put under a UN burundi army general's command in battle so that you will not be 'full of yourselves' like nigeria. ode, olodo |
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