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Msauza: Nigerian Military was unfit for Mali, no wonder they have used France as a cover:

http://premiumtimesng.com/news/106020-nigerian-army-lacks-basic-training-and-discipline.html

chris365: [b]It is a good thing that Botswana, Namibia and Zimbabwe do not seem to have any territorial ambitions, because if they chose to annex a few South African provinces, the defence force would be hard-pressed to stop them, especially if Lesotho decided to get into the action.

A large and long overdue review of South Africa’s defence capabilities and needs, now in the phase of public consultation, paints a grim picture.

The country has too few fighting men and women, often with old or useless equipment, often without the discipline required to constitute an effective fighting force, little ability to deploy them rapidly, little by way of heavy equipment to back them up and a severely limited ability to communicate with them once they are in the field.


Shortcomings stretch from basic training to intelligence capability, leaving the defence force if not defenceless as such, at least easily outmatched by a sufficiently large multifront attack using chemical or biological weapons, heavily armoured units or any combination of these.[/b]
http://mg.co.za/article/2012-05-04-lack-of-funds-leaves-sa-vulnerable

that means we can invade SA with just 50 men.

sambos994: We pulled out because we don't want to fight under a Rwandan general. How troops did Rwanda send? If the UN appointed a Nigerian we would of stayed, but what they did was a smack in the face and we won't stand for that. Either way the AFISMA mission was done anyway. That is in no way failing the mission. SA on the other hand failed. You guys went to CAR and what happened? The Seleka rebels took over Bangui and the rest of the country, you guys retreated, and Bozize is gone....

patriot4: From bully boys to wimps: the decline of SA's military
http://mg.co.za/article/2012-05-04-lack-of-funds-leaves-sa-vulnerable

patriot4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KejIHMyYhI

Mike..ZA:
Nigerians folded their arms while northern Mali towns were falling to the hands of the jihadists. Only to be stopped by the french foreign legion and pushed back further into the north. Chad was the only west African state brave enough to send 2000 men to support the mission. While Nigeria the country with the biggest armed forces in west Africa,only sent handful of men. You guys complained about logics,you even went as far as making ridiculous statements like "you couldn't drive your 'armour' cross chad to Mali". Yet you claim to be the best in Africa?,like I told you before "Nigeria has no experience in cross country warfare". South Africans drove their Ratels or G6 artillery systems cross Namibia to Angola,since they(G6) can't be carried by the C-130 plane.

Msauza: Is peace keeping mission a war? The truth is France played major role than Nigeria in Mali. Honour must be granted to the French by their bravery of responding in time.

Msauza: Victorious as in what? Or should we give that title to the French because they were the first to respond to the call.

Msauza: Is peace keeping mission a war? The truth is France played major role than Nigeria in Mali. Honour must be granted to the French by their bravery of responding in time.

CraigB: You lie. Yellow green showed us who you are. Apart for the fact that you're too old to be playing forum games. You're a father of children.

You'll never be published and there's nothing that you've said here that's deserving of a publisher's time. We've read real articles from analysts. You aren't one. You wish you were one and you thought we'd respect you of you said you had an MBA. Fail.

Your fake MBA doesn't worry me. It amuses me. It's my daily satire, because you're so typically Naai-gerian. Bok* Haram comes from your neck of the woods. Don't you have relatives to worry about back home?

Oh - whatever happened to ignoring CraigB? Am I now speaking too many inconvenient truths, so that you simply have to respond and set the record straight?

CraigB: Well, in that case, you have lots of "correcting" to do - in places going back pages and pages.

I don't care to compete. That's childish. You're the one that said a post is classical like Chopin's music.

CraigB: Fake MBA. The post is "classic".

Music is "classical". How did you write your fake thesis?

chris365: highly rated cos of the cosmetic beautiful buildings. south africa education system is a failure in disguise.

South Africa education crisis fuels state school exodus

South Africa's education and finance ministers are being taken to court over poor standards at state schools. The BBC's Karen Allen investigates the education crisis and why some parents in Eastern Cape province are opting to send their children to private schools despite the cost.

Far from being well-endowed with land and smart buildings, Getahead High is situated in a disused warehouse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17315157

Our Education System is Failing Our Children
According to a recent survey, South Africa invest more money in public education than other emerging markets but continues to yield a lower adult literacy rate. - See more at: http://www.jaynaidoo.org/our-education-system-is-failing-our-children/#sthash.MvB4sGMD.dpuf

Education experts lament South Africa test results
They say the latest graduation exams are further proof that poor blacks have little hope of achieving a meaningful role in the nation's modern economy.

"The implication is that we are not building a united society. The student body of every township and rural school is 100% poor and black. These young people do not have a stake in modern, urban, prosperous South Africa."

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/04/world/la-fg-south-africa-schools-20130104

South Africa’s schooling system is failing the majority of young people. Leaders throughout our society, public and private, do not speak about the crisis in education often enough or with sufficient focus on the urgent need for effective action.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2011/09/07/south-africa-needs-new-education-system-cde

and finally, SA is gradually slipping to a failed state
Joblessness is a particular problem for the young. The unemployment rate for those under 25 is 53%. Many are ill-prepared for work. Only 60% pass the matric, the high-school graduation certificate. One legacy of apartheid is that many blacks live far from where the jobs are. Even travelling to a job interview is costly because of poor public transport.
http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21578692-slow-growth-and-sliding-currency-are-alarming-symptoms-deeper

i can now see why you attended two universities and still remained S.TUPID.
your country is not free from filth so shut the f*ck up

Thiza: @AGAUGUST...Mark Shuttleworth gained worldwide fame on 25 April 2002 as the second self-funded space tourist and the first-ever South African in space.Flying through Space Adventures, he launched aboard the Russian Soyuz TM-34 mission as a spaceflight participant, paying approximately US$ 20 million for the voyage. Two days later, the Soyuz spacecraft arrived at the International Space Station, where he spent eight days participating in experiments related to AIDS and genome research. On 5 May 2002, he returned to Earth on Soyuz TM-33. In order to participate in the flight, Shuttleworth had to undergo one year of training and preparation, including seven months spent in Star City, Russia.

oh ! we thought your south african man went to space because he had technical expertise with super brains, so he actually paid for his empty h.ead to be allowed to fly on board russian commercial space craft

only $20 million ? cheap, nigerian Dangote africa's richeswt man can pay this taxi fare for 100 nigerians to fly into space

saengine: I posted 4 links about amateur rocket launches. So when you come back you'll tell me how i messed up in ALL of them. Not just one. Otherwise you have been embarrased. And when you come back also make a public shameful apology for stating Egypt still produces Swingfire missiles.

paniki: So which country has the strongest military in Africa?

saengine: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/rockets/4315103

https://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/AW/model-rocketblast_300x300_0409-md.jpg

Rocket Record: The Largest, Heaviest Amateur Rocket Ever Launched

Rocket Record: The Largest, Heaviest Amateur Rocket Ever Launched - Popular Mechanics

Steve Eves broke two world records Saturday, when his 1/10th scale model of the historic rocket—built in his garage near Akron, Ohio—lifted off from a field on Maryland's Eastern Shore. The 36-ft.-tall rocket was the largest amateur rocket ever launched and recovered successfully—and at 1648 pounds, also the heaviest. Eves' single-stage behemoth was powered by nine motors—eight 13,000 Newton-second N-Class motors and a 77,000 Newton-second P-Class motor. (Five Newton-seconds is equivalent to about a pound of thrust.) All told, the array generated enough force to chuck a Volkswagen more than a half-mile—and sent the Saturn V more than 4440 feet straight up. It was arguably the most audacious display of raw power ever generated by an amateur rocket.



Have you been sufficiently embarrassed?

No, I am not embarrassed at all, you really messed up with the above post, Nevada is in America and I live in America...your interpretation of that rocket launch is very wrong. I will write you along post to teach you how American society operates. I am at work now I will come and show you your error after I get home from work....you really fumbled

andrewza: We had satellites in orbit long before you, and in truth nigeria has no satellites in orbits since they were built in china and UK

Thiza: First African in space is South African

Henry120: Bwahahahahahahahahahaha, now this is just classic. So you're effectively saying the south african body bag industry is about to grow 700%?

since after seleka rebels defeat of south african army, DENEL has started plans to upgrade current level of body bags...more will will be needed....

saengine: They do not produce the weapon anymore so do yourself a favour and deal with it. Don't make your problem my problem.

http://www.aoi.com.eg/aoieng/factories/abdinfo.html


You do now that site lists euipment past and present. You do know that right? It simply lists equipment that has been bought by that specific country, not whether it still uses it or not. Add to that the site is not accurate. So keep scoring your own goals.

andrewza: circus acts don't frighten me

patriot4: If you didn't think it was an archievement then you wouldn't have commented on it in the first place.
Jealoussy is killing your people.
You just can't accept progress of others than you on the continent.
You believed you were the only people to create things, well you are wrong.
Those vehicles are armoured vehicles made by one Nigerian company called Proforce and they passed the tests with flying colours. Nigeria is following the same path as china, and in 5 to 8 years we will be producing more jets than france.

saengine: Nigerian Phd and Masters rocket launch

[img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1203886_NIG_MISSILE_TEST_EPE_jpg9d84c4fb65d7ebb278b8555f7148e1d3[/img]

Amateur Rocket Launch

https://farm1.static.flickr.com/94/260783547_e5193771ea.jpg

https://i.space.com/images/i/000/012/585/original/team-qu8k-amateur-rocket-launch.jpg


So please don't come with your 1 dingy picture and think you'll impress people. Maybe you'll impress Patriot.

Thiza: @AGAUGUST ONCE AGAIN TAKE LOOK AT THIS VIDEO OF THE SOUTH AFRICAN POLICE SPECIAL TASK FORCE TRAINING AND COMPARE THAT TO ALGERIA ALTHOUGH I WOULD HAVE PREFERED NIGERIA AS THE DEBATE IS BETWEEN NIGERIA VERSUS SOUTH AFRICA....APACHE IS AMERICAN NOT EGYPTIAN....IN YOUR QUEST TO RUBBISH ANY SOUTH AFRICAN COMMENT YOU ARE DRAGGING ANYTHING FROM ANYWHERE TO PROVE A POINT, HOWEVER BESIDE INSULTS AND DEGRADING YOU HAVE RUN OUT OF IDEAS, FACTS AND TANGIBLE DEBATE......HERE IS THE VIDEO: PLEASE MAKE YOUR COMMENTS
http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=south%20african%20special%20forces%20youtube&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-eFU_r_H_gg&ei=GUDmUZ_kHMTMhAewn4DgDQ&usg=AFQjCNFfPUzs3zq4xJHMbNCmkYH8dguXTg

saengine: And your small head again doesn't understand that Nigeria is simply trying to perfect rocketry, not firing missiles. You aren't testing surface to air missiles or anything similar. Meaning you're trying to develop more powerful and more reliable rocket engines. Missile testing is a whole different ball game. First learn to walk before you try to run please.

You say you have many Phd's and Masters working on this so called missile. Look at what amateurs can do. No expensive Nigerian test facilities, no massive Nigerian budget etc etc. But do you think these two people will be able to produce an Umkhonto surface to air missile that can track and hit targets? Keep dreaming. Which rocket launch looks more professional.....the Nigerian one with many Phd's working on it or the amateur rocket launch?

saengine: I said there are no pictures of Swingfire missiles in Nigerian inventory. Meaning in the hands of Nigerian troops. You have pictures of Roland SAM which were purchased around the same time, but no Swingfire? There are hundreds of pics of Nigerian equipment on this site showing all kinds of equipment. You can't find pictures of Nigerian Swingfire because those missiles are no more. Production dead in 1993 and no one to make the missiles in place of the original manufacturer. Website of Eqyptian company which made them in 1978 shows they also dont make them anymore. So just deal with that fact. Your problem, not mine.

sambos994: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXgeQ-H38u0

richard kuhn 11 months ago

THANK YOU WE ARE NOT AT WAR!!! us old guys would have shot youse all to chicken feed, damnit MOVE!! You are too slow and too grouped together, MOVE and move fast. An attack helicopter must NEVER hover, must dance around the outside of the battle field. Sneak up behind the enemy and take out their armour. Paaah Leeease the SANDF can do better than this. this is downrite embarasing.



Dmitri Shapovalov 2 months ago

Even our old retired men will still put up a better display than this little mock! Really, no motivation here and no pace at all. Salute to the old South Africans that made everyone proud!



Hugabunnybear 1 week ago
If you gave 30 civilians RPGs this entire South African force would be been taken out just because of the tactics...

saengine: You must ask agaugust for his number. Whatever lie he tells you, you gobble it up nicely like a big boy. Maybe you two can go on a date .

Ask him why he cant find a photo of the most powerful army in Africa using the best anti tank missile on the continent. From all the hundreds of pics of Nigerian troops and gear on this site he cant find 1 of this weapon? 45 000 of those missiles were produced. He cant find it because no one makes it anymore....done.

saengine: Nigeria does not have the ability to make missiles simple as that. No need to post pictures of rockets which any fool can make. You see a big flash in that picture and you think you can now make anti tank missile, air to air missiles etc etc? Maybe you can send a private message to Patriot because that poor soul seems to believe everything you tell him.