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redyellowgreen: Let me ask again. Do you love the people on the pictures? The females and the young ones.

Be careful how you answer. You know your "living" arrangements.

okay so what do you want me to do ? lets settle.

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saengine: It's upgraded, slightly different systems. Therefore its classified differently. It can still be classified as a new system, which doesnt change the fact that its a piece of rubbish which was not initially produced in 2008 like you claimed. It's 2nd hand crap, which has been my point all along. I'm not wasting your time, I'm not forcing you to reply.

you know why i always pity your good mother ? she gave birth to a .....

every second hand aircraft is marked as second hand. i pity mama in soweto. read my student, i am your teacher as usual



Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Belarus
R: Nigeria (2) Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter 2009 2010 2 Ex-Belarusian

China
R: Nigeria 15 F-7M Airguard Fighter aircraft 2005 2010 (15) $251 m deal; F-7NI version; incl 3 FT-7NI

France
R: Nigeria (5) AS-532 Cougar/AS-332 Helicopter 2010 Second-hand; modernized before delivery; status uncertain

Israel
R: Nigeria (9) Aerostar UAV 2006 2007 (9) Part of $260 m deal; part of 3 Aerostar UAV systems

Italy
R: Nigeria 1 G-222 Transport aircraft 2005 2007 1 Ex-Italian; part of EUR60 m deal; modernized before delivery
(12) AW139 Helicopter 2006 2006-2009 3
2 ATR-42MP MP aircraft 2007 2009-2010 2 $73 m deal
12 A-109K Light helicopter (2009) 2010-2011 (4) A-109LUH version; from South African production line

Russia
R: Nigeria 3 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter 2012 Possibly ex-Russian; designation uncertain (could be Mi-17V-5 helicopter)
6 Mi-8MT/Mi-17/Hip-H Helicopter 2012 Mi-171Sh armed version

Ukraine
R: Nigeria 2 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter (2007) 2008 2 Ex-Ukrainian
1 Mi-24V/Hind-E Combat helicopter (2008) 2008 1 Ex-Ukrainian
(2) Su-25/Frogfoot-A Ground attack ac 2012 Second-hand; delivery 2013


weblink source http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

only a F00L will buy an old used second hand F-7 jet for $15 million when chinese brand new JF-17 Thunder is same price $15 million that same year 2008. nigeria paid the same price of JF-17 jet for the best ever loaded F-7NI jet in the world. we did not want another Jaguar jet to put into storage, so we chose F-7 jet we can maintain 100% in nigeria, and copy chinese jet engine technology for nigerian development. wisdom is an asset, Huasa language says magana jari ce .

saengine: Watch him ignore this point. Nigeria was getting its F-7's produced in a closed factory :-)

no, read my reply above. even if they stopped production 2008 as your source says, my own source says 2013, niegria ordered in 2008, then the last production batch and the best F-7 jet ever built.

did you ever see any south african military man like @snydergp or @andrewza or @fighter pilot say the jets are second hand since page 1 of this thread ? you like to make a public F00L of yourself. so continue, the whole forum is watching your n.aked dance of m.adness.

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redyellowgreen: Sir. You do wish to be careful. It is Nigeria that we are here for. Yes, we - my colleagues and I. The Nigeria whose secret information you have decided will not be secret.

Be careful how you interact with me.

Do you think that you can trust everyone around you?

[size=16pt]@all nigerians, dont you think its time for me to exit this forum ? i guess someone is up against me, maybe state security service or directorate of military intelligence [/size]

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andrewza: Despite the termination of production in 2008, the J-7 is currently in operation with a number of air forces worldwide.
http://www.airforceworld.com/pla/english/j-7-fighter-china-mig-21.html

stope putting your trust in wikipedia.

only china's manufacturer chengdu can say exactly when production stopped because we both quote different sources with different dates. so no winner no loser.

however nigerian F-7NI jets are all brand new, the whole world knows that except your d.ull b.rain south african country man @saengine who needs urgent brain scan

since 1967 till 2010, any nigerian air force aircraft purchased second hand is marked and listed as second hand by SIPRI arms sales log, F-7 jet is listed as brand new. south african brians do like to misfire.

please stop wasting my time of s.tupid ideas that @saengine cooked up with his malfunctioning b.rain

redyellowgreen: Believe me. You do not wish to know who I am. God knows this is not a game. Now this very important question will determine what happens next. Do you love them?

you got the wrong person, i am so sorry, i am not who you think i am. maybe you have family problems with your husband who abandoned his family, i sympathize with you but its not me, i am not your husband please. i am single and searching, aged between 28 and 32 years, yoruba tribe nigerian, living outside nigeria, my name is Augustine.

sorry i am not able to help you. i pray God will help you madam. so sorry, thanks. pray to God and have faith.

andrewza: i did not compare them, i just point out the lynx has a very god radar, and optects. The Dakotas are old though they have there own sensors in them.

go put your ancient south african airforce junk Dakota aeroplanes in a museum.

redyellowgreen: That's not the question. The question is this. What deserves more protection from you? Nigeria or these two women? The old Mrs Vunombagai and the young Ms Vunombagai? What deserves more protection from you?

We are counting down your questions now. This is one of the last few. Think carefully.

who are you ? i think you are talking to the wrong person. i dont know those people you named. i wont reply you again. sorry, i wont be involved in shadow hunting or internet game.

redyellowgreen: You might have realized by now that this is not a game. You won't be asked questions all day. Your chances at giving the correct answer are limited. Am I understanding you correctly? You do not care about this woman? Noted. What about this one? The young Vunombagai. Do you also not care for her? Think carefully. The answer can wait.

thats an under-aged girl ! child abuse, criminal offence. i dont want to go to jail.

saengine: F-7 production of all types stopped in 2008. You claim Nigeria was having its jets produced when the factory no longer existed. Just post a simple link showing the Chinese starting PRODUCTION of the Nigerian jet. Produce and procure are two different things. You bought 2nd hand, upgraded jets.

F-7 jet production will only stop this year 2013. you need urgent brain scan.

Name Chengdu F-7/J-7
Role Fighter / Interceptor
Manufacturer Chengdu Aircraft Corporation/Guizhou Aircraft Industry Corporation
First flight January 1966
Status Operational
Primary users People's Liberation Army Air Force
Pakistan Air Force
Bangladesh Air Force
Korean People's Air Force
Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force
Egyptian Air Force
Produced 1970s–2013
Number built 2,400+
Developed from Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21
Variants Guizhou JL-9

weblink source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-7

now is see why south africans never win a war !

also, south africa does NOT produce any helicopter engine, you always misfire...please dont waste my time, you hear ?

zaandrew: convert 200nm to km. I posted it in KM because not everybody knows the diffrence

your source did not say the radar range, i had to go find in myself on ocean eye link as 370km.

anyway, south africa has nothing comparable to nigerian ATR-42 surveyor, i am not going to play stupid game of comparing a mere helicopter with an aeroplane....a bicylce is not equal to a car.

redyellowgreen: We will soon find out. My mistake. You will. This is the perfect forum. Ok, you love her? Or, Ok you don't. Or more importantly, OK, you don't care? Which one is it? This is more important that your military.

Do you love this woman? Mrs Abigail Vunombagai.

thats a married woman...one mrs somebody, i never forget my religion. sorry i dont trust you for saying such a thing. what exactly are you driving at ?

andrewza: You really no nothing about weapons do you.

....yet i give you all these nightmares.

Donian007: HERE COMES-BOFORS ARCHER 155mm A

wow, i miss nigeria, wanna come home for xmas and see some nigerian army friends again !

Hezron Lorraine: NNS Armanda(something something,don't remember the full name) coming soon b4 end of 2015.its gonna be one of Nigeria's biggest warship.
Its gonna have carrying capacity of 6 fighter jets,12 helos.
(Its only stranded due to the large projects embarked on by the NN).its gonna be with world class artilleries,best technology so far.
#Naija on top.

i know of 12 fennec navy attack/annti-submarine helicopters nigeria is buying from france. sale approved already by france.
they could be the ones on your list.

photo below.

saengine: And I have told you over and over and over again that Rooivalk engines can be replaced by engines produced in SA if need be. I even gave you a link of the South African company that produces helicopter engines. It seems as if your brain just digests some information without comprehension. Just like your Nigerian built so called warship cannot sail an inch without foreign help, since it uses foreign engines and electronics.

the links shows no south african made engines, its still an europe made thing. i read the link. nigeria navy NNS ANDONI sails fine on the sea, south african Carver jet never went beyond paper drawing board design.

my brain works 10 times better than yours, so please post source of your claim that nigerian F-7NI jets were not brand new built in 2008, prove that they were old jets from china's old air force fleet repainted in nigerian colours...your brain works better than mine ? ? ?

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redyellowgreen: I will rephrase. Do you love this one? Take your time.

okay but where are we heading to ? whats on your mind ? this forum is a military public discuss arena. can we talk through another medium ? i can create a yahoo email box for that. are those photos yours ? call it temptations.

andrewza: I gave articles to back up my claim. What do you have other than hot air.

you just got banned again today as @zaandrew, which new insult did you post against me this time

so you logged in with second user name @andrewza, that one was banned yesterday when you insulted me. better leave me alone boy ! i enjoy giving you all these military nightmares. lol.

Mike..ZA:
Did you read the story of Corporal Nkoana(SANDF) female soldier,who guided her fellow soldiers back to base when they were cut from their company during the Bangui battle?,besides the Recces would rescue them.

post source for your claims. you always write things and we cannot prove your claims.

anyway, that your soldier did not display any bravery in battle, she rather displayed for only 16 soldiers, how to do Usain Bolt olympic race.

the other south african girl soldier named susette gates was allowed by seleka rebels to run away and get a car helper to run to the airport and hide under french army's tent (i wonder what games she 'played' inside tent with the french army boys). how are you sure she did not allow the rebels some 'few minutes' before they save her life let her go ? unless she is an ugly girl anyway.

Mike..ZA:
NOPE,I mean help from a "foreign country".Has Nigeria ever produced any craft?expect drones?

any problem with foreign help ? south african Rooivalk helicopter gunship engine is made in France, and without it your helicopter is a mere box of metals that cannot fly one inch above the ground.

zaandrew: brazil by far a better trained milltary force than nigeria.

veitnam deafted america, cambiadia and china in jungel warfare. so yes they better than nigeria

well when last did nigeria fight a jungel war. and bifare was a civil war meaning you only deafted your self.

vietnam war was a kind of small world war with over 12 different nations armies fighting, so vietnam did not win alone, they had 100% USSR/SOVIET RUSSIA military support, and many other armies, yet they could not win until american military pulled out completely from south vietnam and left south vietnam alone to face a USSR/CHINA supported north vietnam.

north vietnam's army was joined in jungle battlefield by soldiers of viet cong, khmer rouge and pathet lao, they did not fight alone, you dont know war history, you just copy and paste information. nigeria always fights her jungle wars alone and wins, like it or c.ommit s.uicide if you dont.

brazil has zero war history and zero modern combat experience, only a military academy drop-out like you will rate them above a battle hardened nigerian army.

nigerian army divided into two parts and fought against itself in b.iafran war and that is one of the hardest types of war because the enemy in inside you and knows all your weapons and soldiers capabilities. usually such wars have no winner at the end, like north korea vs south korea.

nigerian army fought very long 10 year jungle wars of liberia and sierra leone in very recent years 1991-2002. most of the same soldiers are still is service today, one of them is Lt.Col Olukolade of ECOMOG, now the man speaking on b.oko h.arram war nigeria is fighting today in the forests of adamawa state.

see how your facts are very wrong, and become no facts but frauds !

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zaandrew: They all so had 23mm auto canons, 30mm AGLs, 14.5mm MGs. 120mm mortas. Most add good qualti AK47s. O and they lost up to 800 compared with our 15. My point still stands.

nonsense. if it is nigerian amry now you will say any weapons we claim but you cannot find source of purchase on UN/SIPRI/JANES arms sales log, does notexist so nigeria does not have it.

now you manufacture long list of seleka weapons and add extra extra to it with no credible proof, just to make excuse for south african army failure and defeat by mere rebels.

zaandrew: They all so had 23mm auto canons, 30mm AGLs, 14.5mm MGs. 120mm mortas. Most add good qualti AK47s. O and they lost up to 800 compared with our 15. My point still stands.

seleka rebels have no list of weapons any UN or SIPRI arms transfer/sales log. how did you get their weapons list for sure ? did you enter inside seleka weapons armoury to do research and come out alive to post it ?

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zaandrew: They all so had 23mm auto canons, 30mm AGLs, 14.5mm MGs. 120mm mortas. Most add good qualti AK47s. O and they lost up to 800 compared with our 15. My point still stands.

....you mean your propaganda lie stands as a fraud

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zaandrew: in angola yes but in namibia it was COIN vs swapo.

I doubt 200 nigerian solders would have achieved much in CAR, probably would not have run away like the rest but would have lost all the same, only so much ammo you can carry. And don't assume we did not learn from your adventure in sierra leone and liberia, every year the Army gets experts to give opinion and ideas to them, i know of at least to different nigerian generals that have spoken. That why i now of where you went,

incorrect nigeria is not world champion in jungle warfare, brazell, vietnam, collbia, extra extra are far better at it. We even went to barzell to tain in jungle warfare.

on task force they are the most militant and combat hardened SWAT style unit in the world. Only SWAT style unit where every body is a parbat. They have never lost a hostage in a rescue mission and they work in SA a country you like to point out is full of crime.

mr man, brazil's army is not better than nigeria in jungle warfare, show me proof of brazil's war history, it is zero, i ask you again, show me source that says brazil ever fought a jungle warfare like nigeria, or else you sharaaap !!!!

you judge countries military by your own imagination of 'big name' like brazil, should be better than nigeria because its brazil....you think war is the same as world cup football ?

vietnam is not better than nigeria in jungle warfare, show me proof . nigeria's biafra war involved thick jungle warfare by 3rd marine commandoes inside nigerian and biafran equitorial rain forest with about 200,000 soldiers on both sides, while another army urban warfare was going on with about 300,000 soldiers on both sides in africa's biggest war in history.

you like to rubbish anything that is nigerian, and praise everything that is not nigerian, thats why you cut nigerian ATR-42 aircraft radar range down from 330km to 185km....because you are the italian manufacturer, right ?

nigerian army is world champion of jungle warfare, we won all our jungle battles, british army ran away from japan in burma jungle, brazil never fought any war except on football field, vietnam did not win but had a stalemate war with USA, and USA ran away from vietnam jungle war.

nigerian army has the record of fighting the biggest jungle wars in this world and winning everytime. sorry you cannot change nigeria's war history of 100% victory, if you dont like it, go hug and kiss 20,000 volts electricity transformer !


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@andrewza ready to hug and kiss high voltage transformer because nigerian army wins every war !

zaandrew: females in the SANDF

https://www.dod.mil.za/news/2012/data/images1/women_day_led2.JPG

if seleka or M23 congo rebels capture these your soldier girls, they wont k.ill them o ! dont ask me what the rebels will do to them instead...i dont really know, you go ask any adult man...

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zaandrew: the one with the better gun stands the best chance in winning

go ask seleka rebel about their AK-47 rifle. you dropped out of military academy.

redyellowgreen: So this is what you do? Do you like this one?

yes i like that one. so what next ?

saengine: Those drones look nothing alike. From wing profile to fuselage shape. And its clear seeing which one is better engineered. Unless you're gona say they look alike because they both have two wings, two booms, and a twin tail....which hundreds of UAV's have.

mister man, leave UAV drones alone for now, will i marry a drone ? ...those 3 SANDF army girls in the photo on page 457 and 458....what is the way forward now ? i have interest, especially the black one in the middle that looks like a born again....whats their MTN numbers ? i wont invade south africa with marine commandoes if you give me their phone numbers....i promise your country peace, even mandela will get well from sick bed....

hahaha

andrewza: by the way our lynx helicopter search radar has a 370km range

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/46/super-helicopter-300
http://www.telephonics.com/pdf/aps-143c(v)3.pdf

i cannot find south african super lynx helicopter radar range 370km in all these your sources, why ?

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[size=16pt]hidden reasons behind nigerian F-7 jet...NAF working to build combat aircraft[/size]

the choice of buying the F-7 jet as temporary fighter, the regular nigerian engineers full dis-assembly and re-assembly of the jet and domestic fabrication/production of some of its spare parts, are said to be a grand plan by nigeria to develop a light combat jet aircraft like the F-7 jet.

POTENTIALS OF AIR FORCE INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, KADUNA CITY, NIGERIA.

The potentials of AFIT are numerous. Some of it include:

a. Provision of specialist knowledge and advancement in the fields of aeronautics, aerospace engineering and avionics.

b. Ability to train up to postgraduate levels using specialized and state-of-the-art equipment.

c. Development of human capacity at all levels from technician up to specialist grades.

d. Ability to develop a made in Nigeria combat aircraft and other air vehicles such as unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV).

weblink source http://afit-nigeria.org/index.php/about-afit/item/50-potentials-of-air-force-institute-of-technology.html

Henry120: NADCEL 2013 (army celebrations) is by 11 am today(saturday), so if you are in abuja, get down to eagle square as the event is open to the general public.

The event would also be shown live on NTA and AIT. We would all try our best to source out photos of the event.

thanks i will be absent in body...but present in spirit. up nigerian army !