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CraigB: Rubbish, Parrot. Rubbish. AndrewZA was called an Afrikaner F00L recently. I have a got a list "this long" of names that I have been called by almost every Naai-gerian here. And I had always argued my points without calling anyone names. And I'm sure I saw the word "Akata" floating around here.

Now, you get called monkeys because of your apeing around, and you want to cry? You've suddenly found your voice and you are on a crusade for web justice? Rubbish, I say. Boo-hoo, in fact

The race card won't work on me. Neither will your trying to make this about black South Africans. On what basis should they care? They should care because you share the same skin colour? Forget it. That's about where the similarities end.

Pull the other one.

chris365: this is exactly what i mean hen i say you security agencies are models for marketing your weapons. nothing more
5 Most Dangerous Countries on Earth
with SA at number 1.
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/travel/news-five-most-lawless-lands-earth?image=1

so while your boys are busy modelling on jets, helicopters and buses, criminals are actually getting busy.

Hezron Lorraine: Okay.I'm back again.
I received some informations on the spy network of the CPS of NA and DSS and some of their top secret agenda's.
They are very intriguing but I'm not sure if I can chip them in though I was given heads up to divulge a little.
@augaugust,I'm not in the defence .so I really don't know if I should speak of these infos.I don't want to have the SSS to track me and knock on my doorstep.
From the informations revealed to me,It clearly states the supreriority of the Nigerian military against other african forces.
@fellow nigerians,would it be a crime for an ordinary civilian like me to give illegally accessed info's on a forum like NL.

CraigB: you and your fellow Okwonkwo, Parrot (I mean Patriot) had no clue even existed. Parrot's document is not a covenant, you ape . It's a bloodie explanatory note - dated 1992! So that's not a correction. That's a lost monkey trying to lecture.


Such a Nigerian clown.

Henry120: www.shipsandports.com.ng/news.php?id=690

Oga @Agaugust my dear compatriot, the link above is your proof.

NaijaPikinGidi: Idiots should look more within their block heads to see why they are idiots! Very poor effort at being funny or smart. More like a stupid effort at being stupid. At least your report made it clear that our Police officer is smarter than all you 33%ers . That goat surely resembles the low-life that posted the image! SA Police ... the only Police establishment with a Supernatural Crime Division !

Now see below for your SA Police and Tokoloshes. Task team wasting more taxpayers cash investigating witchcraft and tokoloshes while Nigeria Police Force secures and maintains the peace around the world. South Africa!!

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Police to investigate tokoloshe spirits and vampires

18 October 2012 | Tereasa Ferrari

A leaked police document reveals police will be having a task team in the province to deal with occult related crimes.

NELSPRUIT - It's the season of Halloween parties and be careful that you are not arrested in your rented costume. Police will now be investigating witches and vampires. This came to light after a leaked official police document was circulated on the internet about a new police occult task team in the country.

According to the document the police will nominate two policemen per province to investigate occult-related crime. The document also states that these transgressions are usually committed in secrecy and expert knowledge is required to solve them.
National police spokesman Col Tummi Shai said the leaked document was an authentic official letter that was distributed from the office of the divisional commissioner of the detective service.

Police will investigate astral coercion and vampirism, the practice of voodoo, curses intended to cause harm, spiritual intimidation and witchcraft-related offences. "Tokoloshe spirit rape" and poltergeist phenomena will also be investigated.

Mpumalanga police spokesman Col Leonard Hlathi said two detectives in the province had been appointed to assist police in cases involving this type of crime. He said the team had been given specialised training in investigating occult-related matters.

Yet many sources in the police force believe the money spent on the training for the above-mentioned task team could have been used more effectively in other areas.

“Drug-related crime is up by 87% since the South African Narcotics Bureau (Sanab) was shut down in 2004,” said one source. During the year that the bureau was disbanded, the SAPS had reported 62 689 cases (2003/04) but that figure reflected an increase of more than 117 172.

He added that he believed the money could have been spent on training a new narcotics task team.

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More stories on SA Police and their fight to Arrest Tokoloshes

http://www.looklocal.co.za/looklocal/content/en/lowveld/lowveld-news-crime?oid=6354822&sn=Detail&pid=490171&-Police-to-investigate-tokoloshe-spirits-and-vampires
http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2012/09/20/police-on-a-witch-hunt
http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/NUM-Muti-protects-against-tokoloshes-20130130
http://www.citizen.co.za/citizen/content/en/citizen/local-news?oid=319659&sn=Detail&pid=146826&Pagans-challenge-occult-related-crime-training-
http://www.iol.co.za/news/back-page/tokoloshe-stole-court-dockets-1.1033975

NaijaPikinGidi: 02 July 2013
44 murders in one bloody Cape weekend

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/44-murders-in-one-bloody-cape-weekend-1.1540425

In the beautiful and ever peaceful South Africa things seem to be getting even better? And you'd think this is happening regularly in Cape Town where the provincial government has called severally on the national government of South Africa to deploy the military?

I just dey look una dey laugh!

saengine: Nice pics of SA Frigates

1 Frigate can have 32 Umkhonto Missiles in the fire silos. 8 targets can be engaged simultaneously.
Umkhonto was the world's first IR-SAM missile to be fired from vertical silos, helping to reduce the radar cross section of the ship.

andrewza: you do know selka had Chadian army generals in its high command, had heavy weapons up to 23mm auto canons. For the most part selka was a very well armed group. so please dont talk about what you do not know

Thiza: @AGAUGUST YOU BECOMING NAIVE AND JELOUSY...SOME NIGERIAN WERE PRAISING LIBYA AS STRONG MILITARY POWER AND SINCE ITS DEMISE, NIGERIANS ARE NOW PRAISING EGYPT ANSD SOONER IT GET VANGUSIH FROM THE UNITED STATE AID WHICH IS ON THE VERGE OF BEING SUSPENDED IF THEY GO AHEAD WITH THE REMOVAL OF DULLY DEMOCRATIC ELECTED PRESIDENT MORSI.

LETS WAIT AND SEE THESE DEVELOPMENTS. @AGAUGUST ACCEPT NIGERIA MAYBE A MILITARY POWER BUT IS NOWHERE NEAR SOUTH AFRICA IN TERMS OF MILITARY FIREPOWER AND DEVELOPMENT

chris365: swear that this isn't better than yours.


SOUTH AFRICAN POLICE BARRACKS ROTTING AWAY

Appalling conditions at some police barracks are contributing to the lack of morale in the South African Police Service and affecting the ability of the men and women in blue tasked with ensuring law and order in the country.

One of the police housing units that Anchen Dreyer, the Democratic Alliance’s Shadow Minister of Public Works, visited was last year declared a health and safety hazard.

“It could easily house at least 100 families but is now illegally occupied by drug dealers and prostitutes,” she said after seeing the run-down condition of Excelsior Court.

The Berea Criminal Investigation Department (CID), which houses the east coast harbour city’s police detective branch, has a leaking roof and rotting carpets.

“The building is also infested with bird lice from pigeons nesting in the roof,” she said.

She will submit questions to Public Works Minister Thulas Nxesi via the portfolio committee after seeing Natalia Court Barracks where police officers have to live with raw sewage seeping through rusted and broken pipes.

This particular police barracks was on the 2012 maintenance list but no work has yet been started due to insufficient funds, she said.

“The overall impression is that Public Works is literally leaving at least some barracks in the Durban area to rot.

“Creating better living conditions for our policemen and women is essential to improving the morale of our police service. They should be treated with dignity, not left to live in squalor,” Dreyer said.

Apart from the three Durban police accommodation and offices police facilities in Carletonville, the old Marshall Street Barracks in Johannesburg and Randfontein’s old Home Affairs building are also in a sorry state.

“All have been largely demolished by vandals and are completely uninhabitable," she said.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29398&Itemid=113

there are many rotten and decayed places all over south africa, they dont post those slum and smelly places photos here, they hide their head in the sand like a F00LISH ostritch....the huge body is still shown outside the sand hole

Thiza: lOOK ON SOME OF THE POSTED PHOTOS AND YOU SHALL SEE CRIMINALS BEING APPREHENDED. This unit only deals with High risk situation ie: Terrorism, Bank Heist, Kidnappings, Hostage rescuing etc.....Fighting criminals is the job of the South African Police Services

chris365: SA police officers caught on tape taking bribes, performing sexual act (WATCH)

A South African policeman has been caught on video accepting money from a man on whom a policewoman then performs a sexual act for money. The 20-minute video was recorded in a parking lot near the East Rand Mall, in Boksburg, at 3 a.m. on Saturday, and a copy was sent to police Thursday, Beeld reported.

The video allegedly shows a bribe taking place, followed by a policewoman unzipping a motorist’s pants and performing a sex act on him. “The content of the video is very disturbing and has warranted the management to take immediate action in terms of the SA Police Service (SAPS) disciplinary code,” said the police’s Brigadier Neville Malila, City Press reported. “Internal disciplinary processes are under way, as prescribed by the regulations and policies of the SAPS.” He said the officers were suspended Friday.

Gauteng provincial commissioner Lt. Gen. Mzwandile Petros said there was no place for corrupt police officers in the service. “The message was clear since 2010: If you are corrupt, leave the service or you will be arrested, but leaving the service will also not stop us from arresting you.”

South Africans are frustrated with the country’s police force, widely perceived as corrupt and incompetent. Most shocking have been the recent incidents of brutality and violence, including the dragging death of Mozambican taxi driver Mido Macia in February, and the police shootings of 34 people during a wildcat strike at the Lonmin platinum mine last year.

An official inquiry into the mine incident is continuing. There has also been trouble at the highest echelons of the police service, with the previous two national police commissioners both fired from their jobs — one of them for dodgy property deals, while the other was sentenced to 15 years in jail after being found guilty of taking bribes from a convicted drug dealer.

In 2011, 630 police officers were arrested in Gauteng province alone, mostly for fraud and corruption, the Globe and Mail reported. Here is a portion of the video from Beeld, allegedly showing the bribe and the policewoman with the motorist.

http://www.ynaija.com/sa-police-officers-caught-on-tape-taking-bribes-performing-sexual-act-watch/

so what is craigB bragging about when their police is far worse than NPF?

chris365: my fellow Nigerians, before i go, let me leave you with this important information i was keeping for myself.

The SA National Defence Force is on the verge of collapse.

With dwindling budgets, an exodus of highly-skilled technical staff and reduced spending on training and equipment, the defence force - according to military experts - can barely meet its constitutional obligations.

Increasing international demands and frequent internal deployments - such as the recent presidential announcement of the deployment of hundreds of troops on crime fighting operations over the next four months - is putting further strain on the already overstretched armed services.

The army has nearly 2000 troops on peacekeeping missions in the Democratic Republic of Congo and Sudan, and military trainers in the Central African Republic and the DRC.

The defence force has military observers deployed under the AU and UN flags in Ethiopia and Eritrea. The navy has a frigate, and air force personnel and aircraft, in the Mozambican channel and Mozambique deployed on anti-piracy operations.

Military analyst Helmoed Heitman said the defence force was now collapsing.

"We have huge sections of the budget spent on salaries, with equipment and training left lacking. We are hopelessly short on manpower - 20000 troops too few - and porous borders that cannot be guarded properly," he said.

"We have pilots who can't fly [sufficient] hours, troops who have been given limits on the amount of ammunition they can use in training, and equipment, such as our frigates, which cannot be maintained because there is no proper budget.

"The defence force is collapsing. If drastic action is not taken soon, in the next three years it will be beyond recovery."

The Defence Department received just over R34-billion last year from the Treasury. Its current budget of R37-billion is expected to increase to R39-billion in the 2013-2014 financial year. Professor Renfrew Christie, dean of research at the University of Western Cape, said the military's budget needed a drastic increase.

"We spend 1% of our gross national product on defence. We need a military capable of looking after our country with the time now coming to increase spending to 2% of GDP," Christie said. "To do our duty, we need a bigger and better equipped military. The option of downscaling our involvement north of our borders is not an option.

"Protecting our country and its borders is far bigger than just putting up fences," he said.

Retired admiral Chris Bennett, the former naval chief of staff, said the massive "poaching" of technical staff had led to numerous crises in the navy.

"Our military, especially on the technical side, is being bled dry by both public and private industries, as well as by foreign militaries.

"Though the navy until now has managed to stay afloat, things are beginning to bite," he said.

"The right funding has not been given to the military [which is] being required more and more by parliament to do things [parliament is] not prepared to pay for.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2012/09/25/sandf-in-big-trouble

it has occurred to me that we have been arguing with a weak country that pretends to portray itself has being strong.
this is the main reason why seleka used their soldiers as target practice, and are about to be served as brunch to M23 rebels in DRC.

how can this kind of military take on Nigerian military with shiny weapons they have no personnel for? i'll leave you to have your say from the article.

zaandrew: You complian I post old news yet you are for ever recyling the same bull story that we have shown to be wrong. Why don't you post what the rebels say in the artical where that photo comes from.

Thiza: South African Special Forces (RECCES) patrolling on a Proudly South African manufactired vehicle......not China, Pakistan or India

Horus: https://i.imgur.com/MOysUsG.jpg


Made in Nigeria APC Igirigi

Donian007: JEEZE! Who gave birth to this mess of a juvenile?

all4naija: .
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I wish to apologize to all members and visitors who have taken their time to read and contribute in their own various capacity to this very topic for all the inconveniences my misleading information must have caused.

The information I earlier provided regarding the Nigeria's F-7NI and South Africa's SAAB JAS 39 Gripen fighter jets costs is totally fallacious and was based on what I earlier collected from a partial view of ample ideas surrounding both fighter jets posted by a particular member in this forum. I thought the right cost for F-7NI Nigeria's fighter jet was quoted to be in the range of 34 -35 million dollars and the South Africa's SAAB JAS 39 Gripen Jet to be 40 - 65 million dollars given the slim difference in prices. I have held to that going by my earlier argument. The error was as a result of my refusal to conduct exhaustive search on reviews by experts in the field and aberrant refusal to listen to others.

I must admit I allowed myself to be taken unaware and it has caused me the very huge error in my comments. On that very ground, I would now have to quit the thread while I still post in other areas I am much more familiar with and have enough facts to support my arguments.

Before I would finally call it a day, I would like to thank those who have taken their time to provide helpful information on African military.

1. Augugust, sir. You have been the most informed person on the Nigeria military and equipment, with great insight in military strategy, weapon procurement, reviews on hardware specifications and plans for future activities. I must say at this point I admire your reviews with all enthusiasm. You are an outstanding individual with good military related information background. Please, keep up the nice work.

2. AndrewZa(with different monikers),sir. Your contributions cannot be ignored. You have provided a vast array of views to what South African military has to offer,provided data with prudence in cutting down on size and on military budget, present military equipment available, arms production and sale, etc. There were times you aired your views from a patriotic sideline though has not nullified every of your
contributions.

3. Bcraig, sir. You have added nothing from the expert perspective. There was no way the information you provided was always correct. I must admitted you were like me for admitting a non-professional background in military hardware and reviews. Thanks for your pain-in-the-a$$ comments, they were easy to sail through and refreshing to find out you were more on the patriotic side of the argument - almost becoming an element of troll. Learn to post as a matured individual.

To the others and my humble self, I would want to say we have seen South African military been overrated beyond necessary, although, with the capacity to produce and display well polished military hardware. I have to say at this point that Nigeria is truly the GIANT of Africa(either sleeping or awake). It has been to many troubled countries to help and keeping peace, grant monetary assistance to those going through financial problems, fought for the rights of Africans,just to mentioned but a few. The areas where it has proven to be ahead of South Africa's military in a wide margin.

After much decry over my posts by members of the forum, I wish to call it a day and leave it to those who are experts in the field. Those who have something useful to contribute.

On the final note, I am not going to post on this thread again. I would take this as a complete failure on my side and for the short-sightedness patriotism has caused me in this particular error.

Long live the federal republic of Nigeria, the true GIANT of Africa. Long live Nairaland. Long live South Africa


Thank you all.


P.S. I was told without the armament and some other features that SAAB JAS 39 Gripen can cost less than the 40 -65 million dollar range. I don't know how truthful that information is.

patriot4: Since you guys have already spoilt this thread, let us go blow for blow:
How do you explain this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=treekc8JVjE
Isn't this pure savagery committed by South African police ?
And what about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=botEmqHMHu4

Verry Professional indeed

chris365: you are the dumbest SA i've ever known.
SA has a 50% youth unemploment rate and almost 30% national unemployment rate, does it mean SA is broke?

Despite considerable success on many economic and social policy fronts over the past19 years, South Africa faces a number of long-standing economic problems that still reflect at least in part the long‑lasting and harmful legacy of apartheid. Unemployment remains excessively high, educational outcomes are poor on average and extremely uneven, which aggravates the excess supply of unskilled labour as well as worsening income inequality. Does that mean south africa is broke? You're clearly one of those affected by the low quality of education in SA these days.

Have you checked anywhere to find out if Nigerian workers are trully owed their salaries?

And their claim that Nigerian soldiers begged for food in Mali is laughable because at the same time they made that report, the army had deployed new contingent to replace the ones there with new equipments and they were welcomed by Mali's president that came with gifts. So how's that begging for food?

Standard & Poor's credit rating for Nigeria stands at BB-. Moody's rating for Nigeria sovereign debt is Ba3. Fitch's credit rating for Nigeria is BB-. In general, a credit rating is used by sovereign wealth funds, pension funds and other investors to gauge the credit worthiness of Nigeria.
So when did sahara reporters become more professional than these rating agencies that put our economy at stable condition?
And why can't they just give their source of information?

Isn't it obvious even a dullard will understand that this is clearly a political hunting by opposition to discredit the government as usual.

Seriously you should go back to school cos i can now see why Nigerians are taking your jobs over there. And this is the last time am ever gonna respond to you cos you are clearly and irreversably S.TUPID.

zetdee: Where's NJPikinGidi's exposé on SA education?

sheyie2007: what's this one saying

NaijaPikinGidi: Like I promised, I'll be sharing the real sense behind the beautiful university images that has been bandied around for the usual SA style deception. Information that explains once and for all why most of the block head South Africans argue and talk the way they do here. Don't worry there is a military angle to all of what I am about to prove. But before that here is one more chance to have South Africans truthfully rebut the following:

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Pettiness is the gunpowder in the hands of South African commentators on this thread. Cut and paste syndrome in the same people shows readers the level of emptiness and lack of analytical skills common with all recent South African comments or arguments on the thread. Pasting sometimes undated, old, and unreliable data, graphs and charts with questionable sources cannot substitute for well-grounded commentary needed to wage an intelligent debate. Only if CraigB could understand half of his own arguments innuendos.

South Africa is just all about the bling. But here is the zing that they'll keep hiding ... They are ...
:: The only country that plays around with feaces (real shit) in public and on the streets of Cape Town and the Free State in the name of politics.
:: The country with the worlds highest ratio of human inequalities.
:: The country that has the largest informal human settlements with millions living in tin shacks and cardboard houses with walless open toilets.
:: The country where cemeteries are undug to bury extra dead people in majority of poor communities.
:: A country where you need an abyssmal 33% score to pass matriculation exams into South African Universities.


A country where poverty is rife that young girls are encouraged to fall pregnant as a means of accessing an "income" via child grants.

:: A country where racial divides constitute a time bomb in all spheres of socio-economic endeavours no matter how colourful the media portrays the rainbow in South Africa.
:: A country with a consistently regressing growth rate and progressing inflation rate.
:: A country so economically and fiscally wasteful in the face of growing poverty that it spends billions of taxpayer cash on ego trips around the world - R1 billion in one week for Barack Obama, R160million plus in 4 months for a clueless and lost mission to CAR,

R200million in corrupt and unauthorized construction and fortification of Jacob Zuma's personal family home in Nkandla.

The list of South Africa's failing qualities could go on and on. Again the temptation to play low-life like CraigB and his Ghanaian surrogates will be a waste of time. Pasting statistics without the personal power to critically analyse them only show a person's worst stupidity. So therefore ... by CraigB's own standards, SADC's South Africa is a FAILED state and still falling royally.

Donian007: JEEZE! SORRY CRAIGB you just misfired, that weblink has nothing in it, doesn't it bother you that you've lost all intergrity and credibility on this thread? The owners of that newsstory has probably found out it was mere propapanda and have erased it. SMH, struggling at all cost to discredit my MOTHERLAND.

andrewza: if you think the ukraine is ever going to come to your defense you need to share your drugs

chris365: my brother, you just explained why i had to withdraw from this argument. When you argue with a fool your brain drains to his level and authomatically makes you one.

What dudes like craigB or Bcraig and his demented partner kwame have shown here is a case of intellect myopia.

And it's ashame that south africa boasts of standard schools and am yet to encounter one with sound intellectual capabilites (although i've enjoyed comments from Andrewza)

chris365: since all you do is skim through posts to pick what suits you so you can play your trashing game, you should know that i already amswered that question. Check my previous posts cos i don't have time to waste with you. And that you would believe that Nigeria is broke because some stvpid opposition says so (many of our opposition politicians are ignorant) shows how low you think. This clearly explains why you irritate me. And yes a lot of people are reading your posts and i know a lot of them and this is what they think of you: *a dumb child*
even my 12 years old nephew thinks his smarter than you after reading your comments. Lol