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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:58pm On Jul 05, 2013
chris365: Nice.. But i hope it's not a copycat of AMEBO 3 drone of NAF ?grin
honestly i am surprised that new DENEL Hungwe drone looks like this Nigerian made Amebo 3 drone design. why ?

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:39pm On Jul 05, 2013
Mike..ZA:
grin Are your soldiers still using that old FN FAL rifle?,I see why Boko Haram is making them ladies. They serve Boko Haram leaders pan cakes every morning. Ni«gay»rian army is ill disciplined. cheesy Are your soldiers still using that old FN FAL rifle?,I see why Boko Haram is making them ladies. They serve Boko Haram leaders pan cakes every morning. Ni«gay»rian army is ill disciplined.
old AK-47 rifles and dirty rusted RPG with paints peeling off and bleached was used by seleka rebels to uproot south african army and your nice shiny weapons in CAR war.

do you watch tv news ? did you see how nigerian army displayed dead b.oko h.araam fighters and their captured armoury of thousands of weapons and amunnitions ? how BBC and VOA reported b.oko h.arram fled into mountains and forests when nigerian army showed its muscles ?

if your posts become like deliberate false information or spam, i wont reply you again. i dont waste time with people who have no value to add to this thread. i have a life and limited time to spend. none to waste.

photo of rusty, scrappy and old fashioned seleka weapons that made south african soldiers wives young w.idows grin

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Mike..ZA:
"Dr Gulube said that SANDF officers had been sent to
Brazil to train in jungle warfare ahead of the
deployment to the DRC, as the SANDF would
most definitely encounter jungle warfare
conditions" we have BRICS partners,we don't need help from Nigerians.for your info the ANC and other freedom fighters ran "terrorist" style bombing in SA during apartheid.
any weblink source to prove that claim ?

training is classroom theory, battlefield is the practical. brazil's army has zero modern war history and zero jungle war history. sorry south african army went to the wrong teacher, blind man leading the blind. south african military generals always make wrong decisions, thats why your country never won any war.

swallow your pride, come ask nigeria how 1,000 soldiers of her soldiers died in 10 years jungle war of liberia/sierra leone. no single brazilian army soldier ever fought or died in jungle war.

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Thiza: @AGAUGUST IF YOU STAY IN A GLASS HOUSE DO NOT THROW STONES...SOUTH AFRICA HAS ITS OWN SHARE OF CHALLENGES AS IS NIGERIA.

WHAT WENT WRONG ON THIS THREAD IS THAT WHEN DEBATES GET GOING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS RESORTED TO NAME CALLING, BELITTLING AND EVEN INSULTS. SOME USED CHALLENGES SUCH AS POVERTY, HIV, CRIMES AS A WEAPON OF DEFENCE TO MAKE A POINT AND RUBBISH THE POSTING AND THESE INDIVIDUALS FELL TO AN IGNORANT POSITION OF BELIEVING THAT THEIR COUNTRY WAS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

I REQUESTED AND YOU PROMISED TO POST NIGERIAN PRODUCED MILITARY HARDWARE AND UNTIL NOW I AM STILL WAITING....WHEN I POSTED SOUTH AFRICAN VIDEOS AND PICTURES SOME CALLED THEM PUBLIC RELATION EXCERCISE, CALLED SOUTH AFRICA A FAILE OR WEAK MILITARY MACHINE INSPITE OF THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF BEING AMONGST THE WORLD BEST MILITARY AND NOT ONLY AFRICA.
@THIZA you caused the bad crisis on this forum with your terrible insults against nigeria from page 449 and so on, your handwork is evidence against you. i only fired back in self-defence of nigeria. i owe no apology to anybody. nairaland moderator can ban me if they like.

you never complained when your south african spammers were insulting niegria 50 times a day for the past 50 days on this thread, you found it sweet. they even announced my obituary when i am still alive, all because i exposed south africa has no military satellite and i posted 100 nigerian military officers with MSc and Phd degree operating Nigeria's 3 satellites for our role as african giant and strongest military power only next to Egypt.

the above created great envy and hatred of nigeria amont all south africans, then they started to kill this thread.

i did respond to your request about nigerian made or imported weapons. its all over this thread from page 1 to 458.
i also told you nigeria builds more of robots, land drones/USV, space spy balloons, big naval patrol gunboats, stealth guided missile light frigate/warship special kind of military stuff more than south africa and we are using all of them in war today. you want me to repeat the posts ? i can do it, the list is a bit long, for example....

proudly made in nigeria NNS ANDONI Nigerian Navy Seaward Defense Gunboat


https://i52.tinypic.com/106hp9c.gif

you said south africa has one of the best military forces in the world ? or in the photos ? any proof of that ? in africa you will sweat to your p.ants with war hardened eritrea, or heavily armed and modern algeria....outside africa how do you face turkey, north korea, war wicked iran ?

think before you post comment grin grin grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:42pm On Jul 05, 2013
Mike..ZA:
The South African Police Service Special

Task Force (SAPS STF) is the special
operations element of the South African
Police Service (SAPS).
The STF has a formidable reputation in
counterterrorism and insurgency and
hostage rescue. especially during the
long 30-year border war
angola border war was conventional war not counter-terrorism war.

nigeria has better experience in war with over 70,000 rebels/guerilla/insurgent forces in sierra leone and liberia, so we should be training south africa how to go back to CAR and defeat seleka rebels and how to reduce your casualties when you face M23 Congo rebels inside thick forest/jungle in case the rebels move bases into hiding.

the worst kind of war in the world is jungle warfare, and nigeria is world champion for that. get it ? yeah man !

nigerian army infantry....king of the jungle !

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
https://www.navy.mil.za/archive/0909/090907_exercise_golfinho/090907_sitrep%C2%AD_02/pic01.jpg

@Andrewza... the two army girls on left and middle....their MTN numbers please, and i wont trouble you again on nairaland, and even return your navy uniform from my mango tree, i promise. grin grin grin

or you want me to lead invasion of nigerian army to south africa and take the two girls by force ?

okay now, the easy way....help me connect to them....hahaahha, i am not as sturbbon as you think, i am a gentleman...i will take care of them....i promise..... grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:25pm On Jul 05, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Nigeria should just come get some training in counter terrorism from the elite South Africa special task force ;DNigeria should just come get some training in counter terrorism from the elite South Africa special task force.
....and before they teach nigeria, we ask where did the south african special task force get their own anti-terrorism combat experience from ? iraq, afghanistan, mali, or from internet copy and paste weblinks ?

grin grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
[img]http://www.uflib.ufl.edu/maps/MAPAFRICA054illusS.gif[/img]

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[size=16pt]Best Of Africa.....part 1[/size]

dear friends, lets see in this series, which african country has the best of each type of major/heavy military weapon/platform in africa. surprises will come, the countries you dont expect will be leading africa in terms of good weapons. comments are welcome from everyone with good intentions. thanks.

lets start introduction this way....

africa is not the most powerful military force in the world, but not the weakest either. see surprises !

strongest military forces by continents in the world : ranking

1. ASIA....china, india, israel, pakistan, north korea, south korea, japan, saudi arabia.

2. EUROPE....russia, france, britain, germany, turkey, italy, greece, sweden, spain.

3. NORTH AMERICA.....united states of america, canada.

4. AFRICA.....egypt, nigeria, algeria, ethiopia, south africa.

5 SOUTH AMERICA.....brazil, argentina.

6 AUSTRALIA & OCEANIA....no powerful country

surprised ? africa is not bottom of the world list !
surprised again ? asia is number one in the world, i pity those who laugh at chinese, indian, pakistani made weapons !

china produces a stealth jet fighter, europe has none. pakistan produces JF-17 thunder block II jet equal to a Gripen jet.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:13pm On Jul 05, 2013
chris365: https://www.navy.mil.za/archive/0909/090907_exercise_golfinho/090907_sitrep%C2%AD_02/pic01.jpg


i would kill whoever is married to the one by the right. so nobody touch.. angry
Okay take the one you want and leave the other two for me....one is not enough. My grandfather had about 20 wives....and plenty headaches along with it grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Zeus_Ayo: Av bein a silent folowa of dis thread nd d only thing da8 makin me comment nw z to tell kwame tut nd craig b or b craig wat eva da "F" u re called 2 stop derailing dis nd stik ur neck solely in d military section nd if u kant do dat u cld open anoda thread nd spil d shit cumin 4rm dat rust bucket of a brain in dere okay
bros how body ? how weekend ? we forum people agreed to just ignore these spam/junk post/comment people 100% patapata.

If we all refuse to reply all their comments, they will be rendered useless and waste their own time, sebi man pikin wet dey talk to himself na craze man, abi no be so ?

efi won sile eje kan ma so lo, orin won ni o , kan maa ko lol.....lord of ajasa/9ice

https://www.colourbox.com/preview/4387243-32344-red-ignore-button.jpg
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:30am On Jul 05, 2013
zaandrew: 50 000 is enough, we don't have to defend every where, only a few vital points and raid any invader, a lot of SA is open country with very few cities, all so in urban combat we will be on the defensive, no real jungles in SA only a few forests but they very small.

i am not going to post the reports again this was discussed, i even no people who were in angola. SA never had more than 3000 men in angola.
you dont know reality of war, so 50,000 men will defend huge south african land size 1.2 million sq km, you are a comedian. liberia, tiny liberia alone nigeria used about 10,000 soldiers.

you like comedy, you said last week that south africa`s 50,000 men will defeat north korea`s huge one million man army. joke, real joke.

you have no true bush war information. you tell lies, south africa did not fight alone, about 3,000 men on frontline and 17,000 men rear-guard all about 20,000 south african army plus about 80,000 UNITA and FNLA rebels supporting south african army in combat. about 100,000 on south african side against about 120,000 on cuban,angolan,MPLA side.

the war was fairly balanced in power, and south africa did NOT win, you almost lost, then you quickly called for peace negotiations.

weblink sources

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cuito_Cuanavale

QUOTE :

"The Bush War lasted from 1966 until 1989, making it one of Africa’s longest conflicts. The Bush War was fought in Northern Namibia (former South West Africa), and also in Southern Angola – so-called ‘Operational Area’ or ‘Border’. “Bush War” constitutes a literal unburdening for those whose voices have been silenced for so long. The viewer is taken on a journey that moves through a bloody November 1975 (Angolan Independence) and culminates in the Cuban military victory over the South African Defence Force at Cuito Cuanavale (1988)"

weblink source : http://www.mnetsales.com/titles/bushwar


https://www.mnetsales.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Bushwar_WP.jpg
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
zaandrew: Man power shhortage is not has big has you make it. Only about 10 000.

The size of the Sandf is not small. About 40 000 strong perment force army with around 10 000 more in reserv. That 50 000. Do you think nigeria could pull of a invasion of even 10 000 men so far from their base of operstion.

If you look at the SA army you will see it very heavy in IFV for a african country and has far more APC than most. Our doctrain is to use mobilety to find and exploit weak points. Simple fact is nigeria has no means of getting a force large enough to SA. Any naval aproch would be sucide, land would mean one cracy logistal mission and the need to fight through angola(not a push over) nambia and then SA. Most of this would be over very empty land with littel abliety to support an army on the move.

Why wants so big about 2014.

War is not only about numbers but how you use those numbers. 3000 SADF solders held off the angolan and cuban forces. Just 3000.
i have my reasons about why nigeria can invade south africa by end of 2014. not to defeat you but to make an attack on your soil and withdraw or fight to the last man. i am not saying my views in detail this week, topic to discuss later this month.

manpower shortage for south african military is very clear, 50,000 soldiers for 1.2 million sq km compare nigeria with 200,000 soldiers for 0.9 million sq km. nigeria has smaller land but 4 times more soldiers.

those your large numbers of IFV/APC vehicles will be half useless in urban city warfare, they get destroyed by enemy anti-tank snipers with hand held swingfire, the enemy will hide in tall buildings and shoot from windows. try research urban city warfare tactics and history. infantry numbers rule the land in urban city warfare.

in jungle warfare the IFV/APC vehicles are totally useless.

stop lying about 3,000 south african soldiers holding back about 100,000 angolan and cuban army. i posted the details of the bush war when snydergp was making some crazy posts. did you use 250 paratroops to hold back 2,500 seleka rebels ?

stop posting all these crazy impossible numbers that even america could not achieve, their army ran away from china`s army in korea due to the chinese larger numbers, american army ran ! now you say south africa performed the impossible. no where in war history has 3,000 soldiers stopped 100,000 soldeirs with both sides equally well armed.

stop these crazy lies, when people prove south african military combat propaganda fraud now your countrymen will say you were insulted, you stop posting crazy kill ratios and impossible combat records ! why should we sit down and be fed full stomach with cheap lies ?

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:13am On Jul 05, 2013
saengine: SA. South Africa. Nigeria can invade South Africa? Lol ok then.
South Africa has major military defense weak points...several of them....one is manpower shortage, very serious.

That is the first point a potential invader will consider. Also, several other weak points I don't want to talk about today.

By 2014 next year, Nigeria will have military capacity to invade all African countries that does not require crossing another nations territory, except Egypt , Algeria, but needs to cross other nations to enter Ethiopia.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:18am On Jul 05, 2013
Henry120: If a nation deploys this much military hardware for an operation, and the moronic trio of afua hirsch, premiumtimes.com.ng and saharareporters.com says they are ill-equipped for the mission, would a sane person, not advise the 3 of them to check into a mental facility?
maybe they want Nigeria to deploy nuclear weapons in mali war before they can say we are well equipped .
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:11am On Jul 05, 2013
patriot4: Well Nigeria: 175 million people. Almost inexistant obesity. More than 60% of the population is at military age, Nigeria is the biggest market in Africa and Nigeria is the biggest attraction for foreign investment.
Nigeria is the fastest growing economy in Africa and the west African region is the richest in ressources in Africa.
I hope you are getting my point. Without the shred of a doubt, Nigeria can defeat any foreign invasion. Nigeria can also invade any country in Africa, except Egypt and Ethiopia perharps.
By the end of next year 2014 yes. Except Egypt, Algeria, Ethiopia.

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:08am On Jul 05, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Agaugust ogbeni ... this bobo don reach turning point so? Make we dey looku-looku as e wan take conform. Na laugh I just dey laugh sotay my belle wan burst!
bros be patient, let us kashimawo like MKO Abiola grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:47pm On Jul 04, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Hardened.
....like a rock ! african champions, no rival ! nigerian army !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:46pm On Jul 04, 2013
zaandrew: Can i get a source on that radar range, the links i posted to agree and non of your links agree.

How long do you think they can maintain a 24 watch. and to get a 24 hour watch you will only be able to have 1 in the air at a time.

No source say nigeria ATR42 are armed, not to mention it a easy target for a 76mm if it try to come in that close.

ESM only works if the other guy uses his radar, why would we use our radar unless we no we already detected. we could even use a lynx as a radar thus giving us the benfit of a radr with out the risk of decstion

I am while awar that the ATR42 is a good MPA but you seem to think 2 is enough to grant 100% coverage, after 1 or 2 weeks of that heavy use in following ghosts like you want them to and you going to ground them or risk a accdent

you have forgotten you only have 2
if you dont have time to read my posts, dont reply. you create irritation and anger by wasting my time. i have work to do else where.

did you inspect nigerian ATR 42 to see they dont have the manufacturers standard in-built gun ? dont waste my time , read the manufacturers details i posted. if you ask unnecessary questions because you dont read, i will just ignore you.

who told you only aircraft will monitor nigerian sea ? what of satellites and air balloons ? they dont use fuel, they work 24 hours every day of the year. try to think before you post.

i told you nigerian has 2 ATR-42 for an 850km coast and if you cannot do mathematics of 320km x 2, then dont waste my time.

the radar range of ATR-42 is in the first weblink of my post, 330km, source below.

http://www.casr.ca/id-fwsar-italy-2.htm


i cannot find source for your super lynx radar range claim 370km, post source.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
andrewza: did THIZA not post that information.

180km for search
http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio/Documents/Air_Systems_Datasheet_-_MRR_3D_NG/

60km for tracking and optics
http://www.rrs.co.za/index.php/products/products-heritage

here is info on the optics on the MPA
http://selex-es.com/~/media/Files/S/Selex-Galileo/products/air/surveillance-radar-and-situational-awareness/EOST45.pdf
and the radar is 185km
http://selex-es.com/~/media/Files/S/Selex-Galileo/products/air/surveillance-radar-and-situational-awareness/Seaspray5000E.pdf


not sure what it has to do with any thing, at 185 km the ATR42 would not know if a valour is a valour, the whole idea behind stealth is to appear has somthing else like a trawler. And the ESM system will alert the valour to any radar and where it is coming from.

by the way our lynx helicopter search radar has a 370km range
http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/46/super-helicopter-300
http://www.telephonics.com/pdf/aps-143c(v)3.pdf

i have corrected you many times, nigerian air force ATR-42 Surveyor maritime patrol aircrafts is the best in africa and one of the best and most sophisticated in the world today.
the radar range is NOT 185km, it is 330km and that means the two aircrafts can radar search/track/locate any ship or vessel in all nigerian territorial waters within 10 minutes of flight and they can fly 9 hours each endurance. one can search with its powerful radar, the other comes to replace it in 8 hours, thus nigeria can find all enemy ships at 24 hours round the clock operations. the whole nigerian coastline is just about 800km, we have enough air power to monitor it easily.

ATR-42 Surveyor is also armed with a gun/cannon for light combat.

nigerian ATR-42 also has very advanced electronic warfare detection, prevention, and analysis capability and also a multi-mission electronic pod.

Fixed-Wing Search-and-Rescue in Italy – Equipping Italian Airframes with Italian Systems

As responsibility for primary search and rescue in Italy falls to the Guardia Costiera (the Italian Coast Guard), it makes sense that ATR's patrol variant has been chosen for that service. The aircraft – the ATR 42 MP (Maritime Patrol) is fitted with mission systems almost entirely made in Italy by other subsidiaries of Alenia's owner, the state- controlled Finmeccanica SpA. The ATR 42 MP carries belly radar, an E/O turret, a searchlight, plus a "multi-purpose" pod.

Visually, the ATR 42 MP Surveyor is distinguished from the airliner by fuselage hardpoints and observation bubble windows. On the starboard fuselage hardpoint is the 80-to-100 candlepower searchlight – behind which is a Galileo EOST-23 E/O turret mounted in the rear of the starboard undercarriage. On the port fuselage hardpoint is the multi-purpose pod.


A surface- search radar (with a range of 330 km) is belly-mounted.


SAR survival packs are stored inside the cabin aft of the port observation window and launched through the air-openable portside door. Palletized equipment (and access for major equipment changes) is via a forward port cargo door.

http://www.casr.ca/id-fwsar-italy-2.htm

also stop comparing helicopters to aeroplanes in special warfare roles where the whole world deploys aeroplanes for such special roles, a bicycle is not equal to a car.

The ATR 42 Surveyor, also known as the ATR 42 MP is developed to conduct maritime patrol missions and coastal surveillance.

It can load the wide spectrum of equipment required to conduct that kind of missions such as radar, FLIR, TV camera, Electronic Support Measures (ESM), Communications and Navigation systems. In addition, bubble panoramic windows have been provided to the Surveyor for optimal visual observation of the environment.


The ATR 42 Surveyor can remain on station for up to 8 hours at 200 nautical miles from its base airfield. To do so, the aircraft cruises at low loiter speed which facilitates target detection and tracking while it can change to higher speed at any time. The Italian Customs service ordered two ATR 42 MP and the Italian Coast Guard an undisclosed number of airplanes to protect Italy's Economic Exclusive Zone (EEZ).


http://www.deagel.com/AEWandC-ISR-and-EW-Aircraft/ATR-42-Surveyor_a000090003.aspx

nigerian airforce ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft is in the advanced class you cannot defeat with a valour frigate warship or any other such ships.

try not to under estimate enemy weapons so that you can live after the war !


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:46pm On Jul 04, 2013
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andrewza: you guys do know that if you ignore them they will lose intrsted
...he says if we ignore all these spammers they will lose interest....

can we all please agree to do this....i agree[/size]


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:58pm On Jul 04, 2013
andrewza: you got 2, and a frigat can stay at sea for far longer than a aircraft can in the air, you have nothing in your invontory to use to attack our valour frigats. as was mentioned in the little discussion. We can out wait it.
What is the range of Valour frigates air search, surface search, and fire control radars ? With proof of the correctness of your answer.

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:02pm On Jul 04, 2013
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strongest military in africa removes Egyptian president in a coup....American involement suspected



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP1XzqlEtpo
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:50pm On Jul 04, 2013
Henry120: Why don't one of us create a strictly african militaries, photos, videos and discussions thread. Start again on a clean slate. This place is in shambles.

this place/thread became shambles because the south africans lost....proved to be an over-rated african military on battlefield and proved to have zero strategic intercontinental military spy capability. they could not stand the embarrasment of a more successful and unbeatable nigerian military.


crate another thread, they will come there and p.ooh p.ooh on it again, they have no shame.

@Andrewza never complains about these spam/junk/insults his country men post here, he is enjoying it....his own way of retaliation for the Seleka loss.

@THIZA started this massive spam/insults today, @THIZA of all people, i was surprised !

can we find a man of honour in south africa ?

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:41pm On Jul 04, 2013
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chris365: guess you're right. my apologies everyone
apologies for what ? me i will not apologize ! never !

we all ignored @CraigB, @Kwame tut, @AwodwyaGyang insults on nigeria, fine, those are well known spammers/haters of nairaland...

but when @THIZA, @zedtee began to post massive insult comments at random and in rapid mode against nigeria, we have a right to retaliate, we are not fools here....


can i go to south africa and insult a south african without facing retaliation ? they will be.head me with machete !

do me i do you God no go vex...and south africans like @THIZA who started this insults on nigeria today never apologized !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:32pm On Jul 04, 2013
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saengine: What an embarrassing shamble of a thread.
hold your south african brothers responsible for the shamble on this thread

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:47am On Jul 04, 2013
zetdee: Nigeria is always rated low compared to SA on every index.
yes nigeria is lower than south africa on R.ape index, M.urder index, R.acism index, X.enophobia index, unwanted pregnancy index, mine workers massacre index, etc

grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:34am On Jul 04, 2013
Thiza: BOKO HARAM HAS EXCELLENT INTELLIGENCE UNIT:

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=LEAKAGE%2BOF%2BTHE%2BINFO%2BABOUT%2BNIGERIAN%2BINTELLIEGENCE.&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFEQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fallafrica.com%2Fstories%2F201208310262.html&ei=ayzVUbbQMoPF7AbH1oHgDQ&usg=AFQjCNEYOJpwdUZnDVfe_FRb6UrxFMQc3w
Intelligence Failure Of South African Military....Confession

"One of the lessons from the CAR is that South Africa’s military intelligence was bad and we should have known that by March the rebels would be well armed."

http://www.citypress.co.za/politics/did-zuma-fail-africa-101/

http://matthewaid.tumblr.com/post/47185562129/questions-about-intelligence-failure-after-13-south

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:27am On Jul 04, 2013
chris365: And south African's are the least people to tell us about corruption

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/corruption-in-south-africa-gets-worse-harms-citizens_846299.html.

Culture of corruption’ costs South Africa R30 billion
The former managing director of the World Bank has said South African society is infected by a “culture of corruption and impunity” that has led to R30 billion ($3.29 billion) a year being lost in procurement. - See more at: http://www.supplymanagement.com/news/2013/culture-of-corruption-costs-south-africa-r30-billion/#sthash.8VGpuZyv.dpuf

drop it bro and go back to the military topic cos SA ain't so innocent from these things after all. grin grin grin kids!!
...and they want to insult nigeria ? do these mandela boys think before they post comments ?

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:14am On Jul 04, 2013
Thiza: Information about Crimes in Nigeria

Kidnapping for ransom is a highly profitable activity for criminal gangs in the Niger Delta.

THE QUESTION IS NIGERIA SAFE huh?
the answer is....how safe is south africa from the photos below ?


https://lh6.ggpht.com/_ZL3Kngb81qo/TTZesF3vWJI/AAAAAAAA2e4/IcsrcdnmAFQ/MUTI%20MURDERS%20SOUTH%20AFRICA%20children%20body%20parts%20harvested%20while%20they%20are%20alive_thumb%5B5%5D.jpg?imgmax=800



Writes Mike Smith: “These muti-murders of small children are not isolated cases. Hundreds of small black children go missing every year in Mandelatopia.......and you can bet your last dollar many of them end up as muti/witchcraft potion: ”

Albino boy dismembered live for tribal medicine ‘ They tied up the parents of a six-year-old albino boy and then chopped off his arms and legs before running away... The child was dismembered alive and his screaming woke up the entire neighbourhood. ‘ http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/267957#ixzz1BRn2WShE


Toddler's mutilated body found Welkom - The badly mutilated body of a 3-year-old toddler was found Saturday hours after she was reported missing to Thabong police, a Free State police spokesperson said.The little girl, Onele Galata, went missing on Christmas day and was reported missing on Saturday morning, said Inspector Malebo Khosana."She was found dead at B-Hostel in Masole Street. She had multiple stab wounds to her right eye, right side of the mouth, over the left ear, chin, neck, right ribs and middle chest," said Khosana. The girl's private parts were also removed. "The intestines were also protruding out of her body."Anyone with information that could assist with arresting the toddler's murderer was urged to contact Superintendent Kedibone Gopane on 082-442-1372 or 086-001-0111. http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Toddlers-mutilated-body-found-20091226


Mutilated boy 'left to suffer' Johannesburg - A two-year-old boy whose genitals were badly mutilated was left to suffer for about an hour at Kagiso Police Station on the West Rand without medical attention, the SABC reported. http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Mutilated-boy-left-to-suffer-20080314


Cops find mutilated body Johannesburg - The mutilated body of a 17-year-old boy was found near Pella Village in Madikwe on Thursday, North West police said. Superintendent Louis Jacobs said the boy's body was discovered next to a road by a passer-by early on Thursday morning. His tongue and genitals had been removed. It appeared the boy was attacked, mutilated and killed somewhere else and his body dumped next to the road, Jacobs said. He was last seen alive on Wednesday morning and lived with his two brothers nearby. Meanwhile, a 13-year-old boy who was found mutilated on August 5 near a village outside Rustenburg remained in a serious condition, Jacobs said. Police were investigating the incidents. Jacobs said he could not speculate on what the motives were when asked if they were ritual attacks. http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Cops-find-mutilated-body-20070906


Boy survives muti attack Johannesburg - A little boy has been found with his genitals mutilated in the Ebumnandini informal settlement in Kagiso on Johannesburg's West Rand, Gauteng police said on Friday. Inspector Bongani Sibiya said the boy, aged between three and four, was spotted by two men on Thursday. "The men thought something might have been wrong when they saw him walking around crying. They stopped their car and noticed that his takkies and pants were stained with blood." Sibiya said the child was taken to a police station where it was later discovered that he had been mutilated. He was taken to hospital and was said to be in a stable condition. Police were trying to find out where he lived and were searching for his parents."It's hard because he is traumatised and he can't give us any information. We appeal to the boy's parents to contact 011 410 1485 or 073 469 9323."
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Boy-survives-muti-attack-20080314


11-year-old girl beheaded in Swaziland An 11-year-old albino girl was walking home when she was shot in front of her friends in Swaziland. Her headless body was found a short time later. The youngster had been washing clothes and bathing in a river with her friends, The Telegraph reported. They were heading home when a man in a balaclava grabbed her and shot her in the back. He then dragged her away. Her headless body was found upriver. The girl’s name was Banele Nxumalo. A man identified as her father, Luke Nxumalo, told The Times of Swaziland: “What happened to my child is very painful. I wonder why albinos are targeted because they are just humans like us and a gift from God.”


....how safe is south africa ? i am sure you know by now

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:59am On Jul 04, 2013
https://www.davidduke.com/images/South-African-murders.jpg

quote from @chris365

[size=16pt].....and this is how the world sees south africa.[/size]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20971240

very sick country. sad
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/21829741

yall ain't saints after all... so whats the use criticizing another? hypocrites

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/14/fear-arming-south-africa-guns

it says:
"Many people say they live in fear of crime in South Africa, with Johannesburg still listed as one of the five most dangerous cities in the word, along with Mogadishu and New Orleans".

"Officially, according to the government statistics, crime is decreasing, with house break-ins and home invasions also down. But unofficially I don't think people buy into those figures," said Andrew Seldon, editor of the South Africa-based security publication Hi-Tech Security Solutions".

A victims of crime report last year found that six out of 10 South Africans feared burglary more than any other crime and felt less safe in their homes than they did a year previously. As a result, experts say massive numbers of people are continuing to resort to the use of private security firms.

Figures show that almost 1,000 new security businesses were registered in South Africa in 2012 alone, a figure which has been steadily increasing over the last three years.

"People are definitely resorting to using private security companies. The main reason people give you is that they have a lack of faith in the police, both because of corruption and because of the lack of training. The police don't have the skills to deal with crime situations effectively," said Seldon.

Even though we have seen levels of violent crime going down, we still have an enormously high rate of homicide in South Africa," said Chandre Gould, a senior researcher at the Institute for Security Studies Africa in Pretoria.

so what is this hypocrite's point exactly?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:28am On Jul 04, 2013
CraigB: And "Akata" (which South Africans were called recently here) is a term of endearment?

Anyway, listen - I don't care grin grin

Whether you think I'm racist or I'm "nicist", I couldn't care less. I'm not here to win the approval of anyone. I challenge you to find one black South African to support you.

What will happen is that the black South Africans will turn against you. That I can bet my life on. I don't care if you stood up for AndrewZA re: his medical issues. Why did you have to call him an Afrikaaner f00L? Why? That's because you are being the intolerant Naai-gerian that you all are. You Naai-gerians have tribal issues. You have religious issues. You have class issues. You have geographical issues.

Funny you should talk - after 48 people have died because of ethnic clashes in that dump of a country, last week. Hundreds died recently because of religious wars. Another 30 plus died because of ethnic clashes a short while ago.

South African blacks will reject you and your style today and any other day. With good reason - you're the one who calls them slaves when you are shown what black South Africa has achieved, aren't you?

So go on - find one. Just one black South African to support you. To say CraigB is racist and Agaugust is not.

If you can do that, you can call me racist all day.

For now, you remain a monkey because you think like one. A baboon, in fact. Apologies to the monkeys tongue. I will stand up for all South Africans - because you hate all of South Africa. Black and white. And then, now that your brains have reached the end of their tether, you think you can pull the race card? You think you can speak for South Africans of any colour? Epic fail !.

Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it !
@Andrewza never complained racism against me and I never did same against him.

We all know a racist entered this thread from its smell all over you.

a hundred people have called themselves Fools a hundred times on nairaland, you remain the first and only person on this thread to equate a specific human being with a specific type of animal.

anywhere in this world it is standard racist insult to call a black man an APE and a MONKEY, it is dehumanizing and downgrading.

I don't need any south African black to stand up for me they have a conscience and they can silence it if they wish, but the memory of all black nations that stood up for them against racist apartheid will haunt them for sure.

You @CraigB , not the kind of human being I will engage in conversation, the day God was giving out morality to humanity, he skipped you.

S.atanic hearts like yours never care about the evil they do to other humans, the world gets zero benefit having you around.

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:28am On Jul 04, 2013
CraigB: And "Akata" (which South Africans were called recently here) is a term of endearment?

Anyway, listen - I don't care grin grin

Whether you think I'm racist or I'm "nicist", I couldn't care less. I'm not here to win the approval of anyone. I challenge you to find one black South African to support you.

What will happen is that the black South Africans will turn against you. That I can bet my life on. I don't care if you stood up for AndrewZA re: his medical issues. Why did you have to call him an Afrikaaner f00L? Why? That's because you are being the intolerant Naai-gerian that you all are. You Naai-gerians have tribal issues. You have religious issues. You have class issues. You have geographical issues.

Funny you should talk - after 48 people have died because of ethnic clashes in that dump of a country, last week. Hundreds died recently because of religious wars. Another 30 plus died because of ethnic clashes a short while ago.

South African blacks will reject you and your style today and any other day. With good reason - you're the one who calls them slaves when you are shown what black South Africa has achieved, aren't you?

So go on - find one. Just one black South African to support you. To say CraigB is racist and Agaugust is not.

If you can do that, you can call me racist all day.

For now, you remain a monkey because you think like one. A baboon, in fact. Apologies to the monkeys tongue. I will stand up for all South Africans - because you hate all of South Africa. Black and white. And then, now that your brains have reached the end of their tether, you think you can pull the race card? You think you can speak for South Africans of any colour? Epic fail !.

Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it !
@Andrewza never complained racism against me and I never did same against him.

We all know a racist entered this thread from its smell all over you.

a hundred people have called themselves Fools a hundred times on nairaland, you remain the first and only person on this thread to equate a specific human being with a specific type of animal.

anywhere in this world it is standard racist insult to call a black man an APE and a MONKEY, it is dehumanizing and downgrading.

I don't need any south African black to stand up for me they have a conscience and they can silence it if they wish, but the memory of all black nations that stood up for them against racist apartheid will haunt them for sure.

You @CraigB , not the kind of human being I will engage in conversation, the day God was giving out morality to humanity, he skipped you.

S.atanic hearts like yours never care about the evil they do to other humans, the world gets zero benefit having you around.

.

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