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Patchesagain:
And new Recce's have been selected and trained by the old Recce's to replace them.

The old recces trained nobody for today, those white apartheid murderers where flushed out by Mandela 21 years ago to give way to new black boys from Soweto slums, jobless, hungry and half illiterate. Your new bunch are all ZERO experienced rookies who fled from Seleka in Bangui without firing one single bullet.

Patchesagain:
Dont waste my time with your foolish nonsense

1. Do you know what a HALO jump is? Do you know what HALO means?

2. Its all about capability you nucklehead... fact is that we can deploy men to submarines, via HALO jump, in complete radio silence... they can then deploy from subs to attack land targets

3. Citations for Nigerian SF foot insertions please

4. OMG, are you really trying to compare the VBL to the Wasp?? hahahahaha!! Apples and oranges chucklefuck.

5. Yeah sure you killed him... your SF are so good you only had to "kill" him 3 times

6.Are you comparing ancient 40 year old Strela to the Starstreak? hahahahaha. Anyway, Starstreak 1 can attack targets under 5km as well as ground targets, and is largely immune to countermeasures. And FYI a helicopter at 2km is beyond the range of the Streala as well you asshat

7. No an RPG is not sufficient, no you dont need a vehical to move the Milan around... dunce

8. It was confirmed by soldiers on the ground - their sources have been posted.

9. And they trained the new Recces - knowledge and experience is passed on through training.

Dude, grow up. Stop being a child and start good arguments.

Stop the habit of striking out or strikingthrough other people's comments, let the world read what you are replying to and behave like an adult, or you have inferiority complex when you read what Nigerian's write?

1. HALO jump is an old ancient basic parachute jump you dunce, even a Ghanaian paratroop can do it.

2. Deploy from submarines to attack targets how many miles away? Walk through enemy territory how many miles? How many SF battle theaters have ocean deep enough for submarine insertion? How does coming out of a submarine make an SF fight better than the one dropped by stealth speed boat like a Nigerian X-38 combat catamaran? Any submarine insertion done by SF around the world in the last 20 years? Like your submarine deploys SF inside Arabian desert or Congolese jungle, or land locked C.A.R Bangui with no ocean access or coastline? Fool.

3. Citation for SF foot insertions? Like how, they don't travel on foot or what? Who has details of any SF operation, usually secret though.

4. VBL beats Hornet, VBL is fully amphibious and all round armour protection. Hornet cannot swim and is open on all sides for Boko Haram to use AK-47 rifle to kill off all Southie SF troops one by one from long distance away, not to talk of a GPMG machine gun fire 1 km away wasting all your special forces like mosquitoes.

5. Shekau I is different from II and III, yes we killed I by SF insertion into Sambisa forest.

6. SA-7 Strela MANPAD has 4.5 km altitude, it will kill a 2km altitude helicopter you dunce!

Starstreak is piece of crap with max 1 km altitiude.

7. RPG HEAT kills tanks at good range, SF skill can do that. Mostly, SF are not meant to fight against tanks, they are mobile, light, quick action and quick extraction forces or covert and undetected if deployed for long tour in area of ops. By the time enemy tanks are seeing your SF, their mission is getting busted and wasted, they have lost cover and cover blown off means enemy troops reinforcement, getting outnumbered, getting killed .

Milan is heavy and needs two men to operate even if they can carry about, a burden for SF who wants to be light and mobile without vehicle in a bush, forest, or clustered urban terrain where foot work is essential for operation. Fire one Milan, enemy locates you, try run away, must abandon missile launcher, no time to dismantle and carry pieces, the man with RPG HEAT operates it alone and can flee after launch with ease, his RPG is light for one man and carried like a rifle. SF are not specialty tank killers.

8. SANDF Brigadier denied the sniper record kill and has killed the fake story, CASE CLOSED by your own army HQ.

9. Current South African special forces have ZERO battle experience, the whole world passes so called skill down to new recruits, yet every man must fight his own war and prove himself, until blood and bullets begin to flow in battle we don't know who is going to run away. Lat time I checked, South African special forces did not fire one bullet against Seleka rebels, they ran to French army base to hide in the airport, they ran faster than even the SANDF parabats, your SF of today was a FAILURE ON THE DAY OF TEST AND BATTLE in Bangui.

10. SA is now past history and bygone story when it comes to. special forces, dead old apartheid recces won't fight for you today 2015.

See a loaded VBL when fully armed...and amphibious too

Good job @bidexii, very good job so far. Thanks for showing us all these nice photos.

May I ask, have you heard about Nigerian troops comments on our multiple grenade launchers and automatic grenade launchers performance in the battle field? We seem to have a lot of them and every soldier holding one seems to be very happy, how do the boys like these MGL and AGL and how has the effectiveness been against Boko Haram? Any information coming from our individual soldiers on the frontline on this?

FighterPilot:
THE WORD COMMANDOS WAS COINED IN SOUTH AFRICA AND THATS WHERE IT STARTED, NOT IN AMERICA OR EUROPE. RIGHT HERE IN SOUTH AFRICA IN 1900s.

How does that make a Soweto recruited special forces man face a US Navy SEAL in combat today?

FighterPilot:
We don't compare our recces with infants.

Yes, because your old apartheid recces are all dead and gone to the grave, or simply sick old retired and on wheel chair.

FighterPilot:
Nigeria's special forces were established late in 2014. They never even had considerable encounter with BH. Inexperienced indeed.

infants fitting into BIG SHOES. Let's rather talk about their history after 30 years.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/168110-nigeria-to-establish-special-forces-brigade-to-counter-boko-haram.html

Every standard army in this world has special forces, called SF or commandoes, it has existed worldwide since world war II 1940s.

That is a new additional 5,000 man special COIN force trained in Russia/Pakistan 2014.

Nigerian navy SBS was established around 2006.

Nigerian army SF existed as Commandoes since before Biafran war, formed by the British. Fought as 3rd marine commandoes in 1967-1970, Fought in Liberia war 25 years ago.

You know nothing about Naija SF history.

The 30 year old war of SADF has produced nothing but retired or dead men today, your current special forces are new rookies with no war experience in their lives, South Africa has 30 year history only on paper, but on ground today you have NO COMBAT EXPERIENCED special forces alive and active any more.

Sorry o !

Patchesagain:
You can start by outlining their training and equipment

Sh1t brah... you really think they compare to guys who do HALO jumps from C130's and then get picked up by sub's while maintaining strict radio silence?

Dude, you guys dont even have air-deployable light (armored) tactical vehicals

And no star-streak or Milan

And no record sniper kills

And no history of completeing Baha 500's (500km round trip foot infiltrations behind enemy lines) or the extensive knowledge and tactics developed for long range raiding

I doubt your guys can compare to the special task force, let alone the Recce's

Jumping from helicopters is done even by police men in civilian riots, it's a piece of cake for any special forces even that of Cameroon.

C-130 jumps, with or without parachute? No parachute on land means death, with parachute is common drill for even paratroops of Ghana.

Picking up special forces by submarines? Even when the operation area is in the desert, city, or jungle/bush? How many submarine special forces operations are going on around the world today against ISIS or Taliban?

Nigeria has helicopter/aircraft deployable/parachute deployable light armoured fully amphibious vehicles far superior to the Hornets used by South Africa, your vehicles are open and unprotected, ours are Panhard VBL with all round armour protection and amphibious water swimming capability, your Southie special forces hornet vehicle cannot cross has ZERO full amphibious swim capability, your equipment is inferior....your SF do not even have a mini ATV in this modern world.

500 km walk, who goes around measuring how many round trips Nigerian SF have made in North East zone, you followed them around? Even BIR of Cameroon are a standard SF that are physically fit to walk all the distance they need, it's basic SF stamina training worldwide.

Nigerian SF killed Shekau I behind enemy lines, did you know many hundred kilometers they walked or combed the Sambisa forest before they found his secret stronghold?


Our SF don't need Startstreak SAM with only 1km max ceiling, foolish missile. Nigeria uses SA-7 and Blowpipe MANPAD with better max ceiling than your disappointing Starstreak that cannot reach enemy helicopter flying at 2km and shooting the brains out of South Afriacan SF men.

Milan ATGM, how easy to carry around? Most SF use RPG HEAT instead. A bulky ATGM that needs a vehicle all the time is a burden for SF who want to be light and fast, like operating inside a forest with no vehicle support.

Record sniper kill? It was denied by your SANDF army Brigadier General, your only written data source is Wikipedia that anybody can edit and post false information. Your sniper record kill is fake.

Meanwhile, shooting as sniper at 2 km range target using an anti-material rifle that has 2 km range, has nothing to do with the skill of the sniper, it's a factor of big gun with big range.

SADF Recces of old, relics of a 30 years ago war, are retired or dead.

The new South African special forces of ANC loyalists are mostly hungry blackmen recruited jobless from Soweto slums, and have ZERO war experience in their lives, you have special forces who have NEVER killed a human being in their lives, they even failed to fight Seleka, they were the first to escape to French army base at Bangui airport.

Nigeria has the most trained and battle tested, proven and effective Special forces in all of Africa today. Nobody compares to us.

DictatorZAR:
Let's start by selection criteria, training methods, terrain.

Tell me which sub saharan nation also train there SF to be deployed from subs. Which sub sahara country has the history of being deployed against Russian, Ukrainian, Angolan and Vietnamese SF units in its history.

Lastly show me one african SF unit that has ZT-3 and starstreak systems at there disposal.

How many operations require special forces to deploy by submarines? Will you deploy commandoes by submarine in desert, bush, jungle warfare, or in urban warfare where the target is far interior on land? Most special forces operations are by high speed boats, warships, land vehicle and aircraft deployment, or did USA navy seals sail by submarine to kill Osama Bin Laden?

What ancient 30 year history of special forces combat does SANDF have? All those white men of those days are old, retired, and dead apartheid era special forces that no longer exist to fight for South Africa, so stop posting past by gone glory here, the current majorly black men South African special forces are fresh recruits from Soweto townships with ZERO war experience in their lives.

Nigeria has many thousands of currently active special forces who have been fighting on battlefield, for the past 10 years from navy SBS in Niger Delta war to Army SF and air force SF who have killed thousands of enemies on the battlefield of North East war where we killed Shekau I deep inside his forest stronghold.

Show us who is able to match Nigerian special forces REAL WAR EXPERIENCE in Africa today !

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AFRICA'S BEST EXPERIENCED, best armed, best equipped, best trained, the special forces of Nigeria !
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FighterPilot:
Thanks for admitting that some of your men showed high level of indiscipline by mixing uniform with the private clothes. Perhaps it was a standard issue as well to assist when tactical retreat is considered.

Large numbers of South African troops showed high level indiscipline few weeks ago in Congo DRC by breaking military rules and were deported in shame back to your country.

FighterPilot:
Maynier a "shadow" as he calls himself, is nothing in the government. His primary duty is to criticise the government as the mber of the opposition DA. The man does not even sit on the cabinet meetings, he is nobody and we just don't have shadow minister in defence. We don't salute him.

He does not know the simple basics that the police were withdrawn from the border patrol duty as the crime was becoming a problem more into the interior. That duty was then transferred to SANDF again as it had been before it was hijacked by the police during Thabo Mbeki administration. Maynier is as drunk as agubugibu.

http://www.bdlive.co.za/articles/2008/04/24/saps-upbeat-on-zimbabwe-border-patrol

https://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/sandf-back-to-the-borders

Any report published that does not favour SANDF is written by an enemy according to your own opinion.

What then about THIZA's article saying Nigerian army is worse equipped than Boko Haram, that one is good to post here and correct info?

FighterPilot:
My point is did I put SA in that equation?

The point is that you jumped into an argument between THIZA and me, the original argument was Nigeria vs SA.

Don't jump into other people's argument and distort it, use your head.

FighterPilot:
The police did not run away. It was just a change of policy dummy.

"David Maynier, the shadow Minister of Defence and Military Veterans told IRIN that the South African police had "raised the white flag" on their attempt to impose border security. "

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border

white flag = surrender .

Dummy
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FighterPilot:
Did I ever put SA on that equation?

The original argument was Nigeria Vs SA as usual.

FighterPilot:
Those bennies and other items they have worn are purely for private business.

Well said!!! Like you've put it, it really does not need a ruler. They have been issued with private clothes for various needs like when the heat is too much to bear it shouldn't take them more time to just invert to civilians and run away. Bwahaha…

The beanies are all army green colour hats and standard issue of NA, so are green cotton sweaters, green camo T-shirts and pants, all are army green official issue and standard for all men in service. Only 3 or less men among 300 have private jacket on top their army camo and that is not in a combat zone of engagement. They will pull off those, only a fool will go into battle with a red color jacket, even his mates won't allow him to do it and expose them to enemy visibility. Show me a Nigerian soldier in fighting engagement wearing red jacket in combat.

FighterPilot:
All of the countries you mentioned above have more foreign reserves than Naija my friend.

Same way they have more than South Africa too.

FighterPilot:
But why were they wearing private clothes mixed with uniform? Or is it just normal to them?

None is wearing private clothes, Nigerian army issues many types of different clothing for various needs of soldiers in various conditions.

Out of the 300 troops, may be we see only 3 men adding colour clothing to their army camo, it's a personal thing and does not affect his mobility, he could just remove it before leaving that safe zone and put it in his bag or dump it in their Toyota truck. I have not seen any Nigerian troops wearing red clothes in combat.

FighterPilot:
Your so called agubugubu, the fake researcher thought there will be no time a soldier will ever walk without a helmet in a red area or zone refering to how he's been ignorantly commenting about how SANDF soldiers are not wearing their helmets in what he thought was a red zone. I deliberately picked one of his pictures where the soldiers appeared not to have worn helmets to indirectly show him that it is not always soldiers would wear helmets even if they are in a red area. Within that red zone there are areas which have been stabilised, where soldiers can walk without uncomfortable helmets just to ease their head of a heat created by helmets. Thank you.

Stop telling lies against me dude !

It was your Southie guy Patches who was repeatedly posting photos of Nigerian troops in Konduga without helmet, claiming they were in a red zone, whereas the men were marching just outside their base on a long trip to engage the enemy, so they took off their helmets where it was still safe.

I explained many times to Patches but he kept insisting that the location where even the Vice News Journalist took off his own helmet too is a red zone, who can go into danger of bullets without helmet, does that make any sense?

When you fellow Southies start a foolish argument you will not correct them at that time, buy when Nigerians hit back, you say we started it.

You liar.

Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS STOP LYING YOU BOOSTED ABOUT 40 CHINOOK HELICOPTERS BUT NONE UNTIL NOW.... WHERE ARE THE FIGHTER JETS YOU CLAIM TO HAVE PURCHASED FROM CHINA WHERE ARE THE COBRA HELICOPTERS YOU CLAIMED TO HAVE PURCHASED FROM USA?? WHERE UR THE SUBMARINES YOU CLAIM TO HAVE PURCHASED FROM PAKISTAN SHOW US THAT THEY ARE THERE MUMU...

NIGERIAN RESERVES FALLING

The Central Bank of Nigeria has revealed in its data for the month of September that there has been a fall in Nigeria’s foreign reserves.Foreign exchange reserves fell by 3.14 per cent to $30.48 billion by September 23 from $31.47 billion a month ago, central bank data showed on Wednesday.
http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/09/30/nigerias-foreign-reserves-crash-by-1billion

SOUTH AFRICA A TOP FDI DESTINY IN AFRICA
The investment pipeline into South Africa remains robust, according to the acting head of investment promotion and inter-departmental clearing house at the Department of Trade and Industry (dti) Yunus Hoosen.He was speaking at a seminar hosted by the department on the state of foreign direct investment (FDI) in South Africa.

He said South Africa attracted R43bn in FDI in the previous financial year. He explained that due to the cyclical nature of investment it should be expected that both inward and outward investment stock may vary from year to year.

“Over a protracted period of time, South Africa has maintained its position as the top FDI destination in Africa as well as a prolific investor on the African continent. Recent data indicate that this trend is continuing based on the 2014/2015 investment pipeline and the impact of various government programmes across the South African economy,” he said.
http://www.fin24.com/Economy/SAs-investment-pipeline-remains-robust-dti-20151004

SOUTH AFRICA FOREIGN RESERVES STOOD AT $46 BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.imf.org/external/np/sta/ir/IRProcessWeb/data/zaf/eng/curzaf.htm



The Central Bank governor, Mr Godwin Emefiele, has defended his decision not to further devalue the naira despite the pressure on the currency of Africa’s top oil producer amid the global price crash.Godwin Emefiele is also under pressure from foreign investors and Nigerian manufacturers, who say his policies are worsening the oil-dependent country’s economic woes.

But the governor, on Monday, maintained that the naira was 'appropriately priced,' telling the Financial Times Africa Summit he would not allow a policy of 'interminable adjustment' as this would only cause more pain for Nigeria’s 170 million people.The naira lost more than 20 per cent of its value between the start of the oil price fall in July 2014 and February, the last time the Central Bank allowed the currency to depreciate.
http://tribuneonlineng.com/if-we-devalue-naira-again-we-will-kill-nigerians-says-cbn-governor

The whole world of oil producers have falling income. Norway, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, Britain, all have issues. Yet Nigeria still has it's $ 30 billion cash reserve plus the special sovereign fund reserve in dollars as back up.

Learn to memorize simple information for at least 6 months kept in your head, I posted here many times repeatedly, USA refused to sell second hand Chinnook unarmed helicopters, Nigeria changed direction to Russia and we bought 18 brand new Mi-171 terminators armed transports better than the Chinnooks, all delivered and SIPRI records them.

Cobra helicopter USA refused to allow Israel sell us the second hand Cobra helos, Nigeria now bought 9 Mi-35 Hind E and dozens of armed Gazelles plus armed Eurocopter helicopters, photos have been repeatedly posted here for all to see.

We bought 4 new American version Alpha jets, photos shown here. Jane's Defence announced NAF is buying 6 Su-25 KM Frogfoot attack jets in a new deal and story web link was posted here repeatedly.

I think every South African has envy problem or medical condition of constant memory loss
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Thiza:
RAG TAG ARMY
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari has pledged to investigate allegations made by Amnesty International that accuse senior Nigerian military officials of war crimes violations in the offensive against radical Islamist terror group Boko Haram.
http://europe.newsweek.com/nigerias-buhari-vows-investigate-allegations-armys-war-crimes-328218

STORIES OF A RAG TAG ARMY
When Islamist militants raided the northeastern Nigerian village of Izghe, killing 90 people, some government troops dropped their weapons, stripped off their uniforms and fled in civilian clothes, according to two soldiers who were at the scene.

The soldiers said the troops were angry their monthly pay had been cut in half to 15,000 naira ($92) without explanation, heightening their belief that money meant for them and their front-line fight against the Islamist militant group Boko Haram was being siphoned off by officials in Abuja, the capital.

“Somebody is sitting comfortably in Abuja stealing our money, and we are here facing Boko Haram fire every day,” Shu’aibu, a lance corporal, said in a June 11 interview in Yola, capital of Adamawa state. He spoke on the condition that his surname wasn’t published because he’s not authorized to comment.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-07-15/nigerian-troops-say-corruption-saps-will-to-confront-islamists

@AUGUSTUS WHERE IS THE MONEY FOR THE MILITARY HARDWARE??
The arms purchase probe panel that was set up by President Muhammadu Buhari to probe contracts executed during the administrations of late President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua to former President Goodluck Jonathan, has started sitting with not less than 13 allegedly indicted retired generals opting for plea bargain.

A highly placed defence source at the weekend told Nigerian Pilot Sunday that the retired generals numbering 13 out of the 19 that are expected to be quizzed by the probe panel have already approach some members of the panel for amicable settlement of the matter than appearing before the panel.

According to the source, a former National Security Adviser is allegedly the arrowhead of the negotiation, if the members of the panel will accept their request. The security source further added that the 13 retired military chiefs are willing to refund N1 trillion to the federal government as part of the plea bargain arrangement
http://www.babreports.com/2015/08/30/buharis-arms-deal-probe-13-army-generals-admit-loots-to-return-n1trillion/

South African military and politicians are involved in many bribery and corruption allegations from SAAB Gripen deal to Frigate and Submarine deals, your azz is as dirty as that of any other African country

Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS HERE IS THE LIST OF THE ARMS PURCHASED BY YOUR RAG TAG ARMY AND THERE IS NO MENTION OF HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS....FIGHTER JETS....AND THE LIST LOOK SO UNPROFESSIONAL LIKE IT WAS DRAFTED BY A SIX GRADE CHILD.

The Nigerian Times (NT) has obtained the alleged list of weaponry items bought for the needs of the Nigerian army last year.

This comes after the former national security adviser, Sambo Dasuki, shared images of weapons attained by ex-president Goodluck Jonathan to fight the Boko Haram insurgency.

Indications have emerged that a massive supply of military hardware was received on January 27 of the last year. The NT reports, with reference to its military source that some of the purchased items were computerised and manned with cameras capable of detecting enemy location from long distance. This was to ensure more effective fight against the terrorists.

Read more: http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/headline/427382-weapons-purchased-by-army-to-fight-boko-haram-list.html#ixzz3nlaIAaly

Learn to use reliable and genuine sources of information available to the public for free.

Go to SIPRI database and see the list, or these weapons being delivered are not for Nigeria? The helicopters, tanks, missile drones are South African ?

Fool
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FighterPilot:
So, you are insinuating that those of SANDF are in dangerous situation over what your troops are exposed to. We all know Boko can even operate right inside the towns of NE. We all know how hot is NE.

Boko Haram is busy surrendering in hundreds to Nigerian army today, the war tide has changed ! Nigerian army has wrecked Boko Haram !

Patchesagain:
I refuse to answer your question the context you framed it in as it is misleading

Financial problems? we just spent $1 billion on the badger IFV... We havd double the budget you do... Now we have financial problems??

Go on then

Go to SIPRI and list everything you purachased since 2000

Lets compare

Peacetime SANDF > War Time Nigeria

Compare what again you fool ?

I have just listed it yesterday, Nigerian purchases peacetime 2000 to 2010. From Cobras to ATR-42 to F-7 jets, why should I repeat it today, are you maaad ?

On Badger IFV, in 15 years on same purchase, you spent so little money you could only buy about 5 units of Badger till date....costs about $ 25 million peanuts to import 5 units from Finland.

SANDF is broke.

Patchesagain:
It doesnt say that SAPS have surrendered

Augubugs famous illiteracy rears its head again!!

Patches the school drop out, go for adult education classes, learn to read :

"David Maynier, the shadow Minister of Defence and Military Veterans told IRIN that the South African police had "raised the white flag" on their attempt to impose border security. "

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border
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Patchesagain:
All this opinion

Not a single citation

Choke on this, simpleton

http://www.thenewage.co.za/50085-1007-53-Special_report_Welcome_to_Musina_the_crime_town
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Patchesagain:
SANDF are not deployed to police the town

Stop wasting our time with this drivel

Stop telling lies !

"Musina town - South African special forces troops have begun a six-month deployment along the troubled border with Zimbabwe, where rape, robbery and other crimes are commonplace. Two companies of Parabats - elite South African paratroopers deployed in recent years to Sudan, DRC and Burundi as peacekeepers - have arrived at a highly porous border in the first phase of a deployment."

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border

SANDF elite troops in hundreds are deployed in combat to replace runaway Southie Police cowards
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[size=13pt] Zimbabwean Guma Guma gangs take over South African territory

= South African police runs away in surrender

= Zuma sends in army elite paratroops

= Guma gangs remain elusive and dribbles SANDF troops round in circles

= Reason why this SANDF soldier in the photo looks totally confused fighting Guma Guma

= Never mind his ZERO kit no helmet no body armour no extra bullet double wahala

[img]http://www.irinnews.org/photo/download.aspx?Source=Report&Year=2010&ImageID=201005261538140561&Width=490[/img]

"They say it’s a town that never sleeps, with business being conducted in the day and the nights being ruled by the notorious, heavily-armed predatorial guma guma gang who even the police are fear of.

Musina, South Africa’s gateway to Africa, is a criminally driven town gripped by fear of ruthless gangs of robbers and rapists preying on desperate people crossing the border in search of “a better life” this side of the Zimbabwe/South Africa border.

The well-armed predators are called the guma guma. Even police are afraid to challenge them."

http://www.thenewage.co.za/50085-1007-53-Special_report_Welcome_to_Musina_the_crime_town
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FighterPilot:
Agauguu tell us since you have become a master of helmets, tell us why these your champions not wearing helmets in a red area?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2922138_2874580112275638687057865159975984100710960956548n1jpeg77e5083d4425a6a1eb94f293af7cae13_jpegb33ed20437632e6be73ca8ee549a9010

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2922492_19713536822819852176191279802129n_jpeg4a2edfde75c4799b06bb02cd3709f59d

You need to prove they are in red area, mumu.

The second soldier has no gun, no rifle, not armed.

The first soldier is standing inside his securely fenced base fully protected by a high steel perimeter fence, see his sleeping tent and personal domestic household items behind him under his tent....you this fake military academy graduate, you cannot even identify an army base. Dundeee.

FighterPilot:
Rapists would only be dangerous in the eyes of journalists but not military. No international rapist who cross the borders to rape women would force me to wear a helmet.

Are you really a university graduate? Can you read simple English? The report says the gangs rob and kill, gangs so well armed that South African police with rifles have surrendered and handed over the fight to SANDF.

Fake BSc you have, you cannot even read your own source and quote correctly.

Patchesagain:
Is border policing a combat deployment?

Are they fighting against heavy weapons, an organzied foe etc?

They are walking along a fence and turning back illegal immigrants

Nope, SANDF is fighting against armed Guma Guma gangs who kill, rob, r.ape, etc. That is why the source says it's dangerous operation :

"SOUTH AFRICA: Troops reinforcing a porous and dangerous border".

Your troops wear no kits at all, doing a dangerous operation in a danger zone where SA police has surrendered to superior Guma Guma firepower, leading the SA govt to deploy army elite paratroops there. Your SANDF wear no kit in danger zone where bullets kill.

Patchesagain:
Bragging about tiny acquisitions

Why 2 years? Lets make it 15!

26 Gripen
24 Hawk
4 Valour Class
3 Heroin Class
17 Exocet missiles
320 MILAN ATGM's
80 SUT torpedoes
25 IRIS-T
10 Litening targetting pods
30 A109 Augusta
2 PAGE Air search radar
1 Kondor-E Surveillance satellite
236 Badger ICV ($1,2 billion dollar deal - a significant portion of your entire military budget)
170 Starstreak missiles
4 Lynx
50 Paveway JDAM's

and this is only SIPRI based imports, it excludes, Umbani JDAM, Sky-Guard CRAM upgrade, GBADS phase 3, Seeker 400 etc etc etc

This is us in peacetime

Use your brain when you jump into other people's arguments, THIZA was referring to Nigerian procurement in the face of current economic situation from 2014-2015, that's a two year period you dummy, we are comparing who has cash to buy things as at now in recent years, not 15 years ago you mörön.

Learn to answer questions within context.

Show us a list of current South African equipment purchases 2014-2015 so we can laugh at your tiny acquisitions due to your financial problems.

I too can start listing Nigeria's peace time procurement of 15 years ago including F-7 jets, Mi-24 helicopters, AW 109 helicopters, ATR-42 Surveyors, Diamond D42, G-222 aircraft, Beechcraft ISTAR aircraft, Cobra, VBL, BTR-3, Palmaria artillery, space satellites, coastal radars, about 300 navy vessels in one swoop, etc

What's the use repeating old data that everybody already knows? You have kolomental problem that makes your brain enjoy moving backwards in reverse gear everytime on this forum?

FighterPilot:
My source never proved me wrong? Look at the first word of the article. MUSINA.

This is what the source say.


Two companies of Parabats - elite South African paratroopers deployed in recent years to Sudan, DRC and Burundi as peacekeepers - have arrived at a highly porous border in the first phase of a deployment that will see soldiers from various units return to all South Africa's land borders in the next few years.

We don't care about the name of the place Musina or whatever place, all we care about is that your very own source says boldly :

The headline of the photo boldly says "SOUTH AFRICA: Troops reinforcing a porous and dangerous border".

Your rag tag SANDF soldier was operating in dangerous battle zone wearing ZERO kit and ONLY one mag no extra bullets, he looks like a Congolese rag tag rebel .

Case Closed.