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FighterPilot:
That is exactly in Musina, the border town between SA and Zim. I am very very familiar with South African terrain from Limpopo to the cape.

That pic was taken in a safe SA and am 100% sure.

Why should I believe you when your own source says you are wrong, you think we are kids here?

Thiza:
MY Point where would the money come from for the entire revambing of the Nigerian Military. Last years many Nairas boosted about procuring 40 Second Hand Chinook Helicopters....Russian attack helicopters.....Submarines....Stealth Frigates....Chinese fighter aircrafts etc @AUGUSTUS WAS BOOSTING SINCE 2010....BUT UNTIL NOW NOTHING

NOTHING? You drank palm wine early Monday morning before brushing your teeth?

40 new Mi-35 and M-171 combat helicopters, T-72 tanks, BTR-4 IFV, RM-70 Rocket artillery, BVP-1 IFV, BTR-80 IFV, many hundreds of MRAPs and LAVs, dozens of armed Eurocopter helicopters, NNS Centenary stealth OPV, missile arned drones, Falcon Eye naval surveillance systems, all delivered in one year, and NNS Unity stealth OPV, 6 Su-25 Frogfoot attack jet fighters on the way....you call that NOTHING ?

Show us what SANDF acquired in the last 2 years and compare
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FighterPilot:
That is in SA my friend. Google search the picture and you will see that the pic was used by various sources to write different articles about SANDF. I hundred percent certain this picture was taken from home.


That pic was taken in Musina, South Africa in the borders of SA and Zimbabwe. You can even look at the background.

http://m.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border#.VhILi_lBtAg

You just made it worse !

The headline of the photo boldly says "SOUTH AFRICA: Troops reinforcing a porous and dangerous border".

Meaning your SANDF soldier was in a risky operation in a dangerous high risk zone with NO helmet NO body armour NO extra bullets just one mag NO webbings NO pouches NO kit at all

SANDF is a rag tag army as confirmed by you ! Thanks
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FighterPilot:
Are you laughing about a man whose pic was taken in South Africa?

Prove it

FighterPilot:
Risk free area.

The Nigerian troops too were in a risk free area.

Equation balanced.

Patchesagain:
Because that is when they were entitled on the forum I got them from.

Prove me wrong - provide context

You never proved yourself right in the first place.

The burden of proof is on you making the false claim. Prove your claim first !
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FighterPilot:
That area is not a war zone else there wouldn't have been that congo man on piki-piki, a motor bike like it is called in Congo. Also those women walking in a relaxed mood coming from the market on the background. African countries usually use market to sell commodities isn't?

If there is no war threat there, no soldier would have been posted to mount check point there in the first place.

Your SANDF on war duty with one magazine per rifle....per soldier....in Congo volatile war zone

Henry120:
Your poorly trained troops "gisting" about pap and braai in an active war zone, while on duty!

LOL.....not only playing gisting on duty in war zone...

SANDF troops with one mag each for each rifle per soldier LOL

Patchesagain:
That is a patrol INSIDE GOMA from 2008 ... when the region was relatively peaceful.

Show us date stamp for the photo.

Congo DRC was NEVER been peaceful from 1990s days of Mobutu war with rebels

FighterPilot:
SANDF may lack complex military weapons but when it comes to personal equipments from boots, uniform, food, helmets et al, it does not compromise. Before anything else they will make sure every personnel is covered. That's one thing I respect SANDF for.

You mean like this.... ?
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Patchesagain:
i just want to take a second to point out that the SANDF has so much equipment we have two basic battle-harnesses

the PAT83 "battle jacket" (pic 3-4) standard multi-use webbing

The m83 Chest rig (pic1-2) for direct action deployments

We see nothing like that here, all we see is a rag tag SANDF soldier in Bangui bush with ZERO kit, not even one pure water sachet to drink !
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FighterPilot:
Who said that is a war zone?

Patches said so....

Or is that Pretoria city they are patrolling ? UN deployed troops on mission inside Pretoria ?

FighterPilot:
We prefered our caps to shield us from the scorching sun of Africa.

So why were you telling lies that helmet is SANDF standard?

The Nigerian troops in the photo Patches have been repeatedly posting , removed helmets because of scorching sun in semi desert. So ?

Patchesagain:
THEY BLATANTLY DO NOT HAVE HELMETS OR ANYTHING ELSE

Read Fighter Pilots comment, seems his own psycho-mental case is being well treated by a good psychiatrist. Yours is total kolo-mental

Patchesagain:
actually on patrol

Thanks for showing us SANDF troops on patrol and all of them wearing cloth face caps in war zone

You just proved that your claim of HELMET AS A STANDARD for SANDF is a big lie

#SUICIDE COMMENT
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Patchesagain:
You can nit pick all you want, it proves nothing. We have pictures of your mean HEADING TO THE FRONTLINE and we see how they look

You just confessed, HEADING TO frontline, but NOT YET arrived on the frontline. Thanks for explaining why they removed helmets in safe zone
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FighterPilot:
My point exactly and tell me how can we ever risk the life of a soldier by sending him into a war zone without a cheap steal helmet?

You said Nigeria was doing it, so why not you?

Patchesagain:
Exactly!

Ta-da! INSPECTION

If Zimbabwe assembles it's army weapons at a home headquaters exhibition show it would look that good too.

Show us your SANDF troops with all those equipment in war zone

Patchesagain:
Congradulations on proving that our drivers dont wear body armor or helmets while they operate ARMORED VEHICALS

But you can see the gunner (who is not protected by the vehical) has his helmet and BPV on.

Not sure what you thought you were proving with that picture

The other soldiers sitting outside the MRAP are NOT drivers, those are the ones I am referring to.

The MRAP behind has a soldier who wears NO helmet on patrol duty in hostile Congo DRC.

The MRAP in front has a soldier on the left hand side sitting outside an MRAP with face cap, no helmet and NO body armour !!

SANDF is worse than we imagined. You live in a glass house, yet you wanna throw stones.....see your sub-standard army in war zone !
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Patchesagain:
Some people saying SANDF lacks equipment....

Here we go

Pic 1: Ex Young Lion (in South Africa)

Pic 2: Op Fikela (in South Africa)

Pic 3: UN FIB

All happening at the same time, all equipped exactly as doctrine dictates

SANDF in war zone C.A.R....No helmet, no body armour, don't even mention equipment !

http://reliefweb.int/report/central-african-republic/south-africa-bolsters-its-troops-bangui
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Patchesagain:
Again, I see you are acting like CAR is our only deployment

Happily forgetting the men in DRC and Sudan - pic related, men deployed in combat zones

Again, we see you acting like the Nigerian troops in the VICE NEWS journalists photo at Konduga are our only deployment.

Happily forgetting the men in Mali and Sudan. We too have shown you photos of NA troops in combat zone.

SANDF troops have been caught on camera doing combat patrol in war zone Congo DRC with NO helmet and NO body armour !!!
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Patchesagain:
Still poorly equipped

Envy is your problem.

Nigerian army infantry is the best equipped with light infantry weapons in Africa. From OBJ 006 rifles, FN FAL rifles, Travor rifles, Beryl rifles, anti-material rifles, night vision equipment, GPMG, LMG, HMG, MGL, AGL, knee mortars, heavy mortars, recoilless rifles, hand glider mini drones, man portable Aeryon quad copter drones, all types of communication radios, field telescopic TV cameras, to high power motorbikes and ATVs.

No African country from Cape Town to Cairo comes close to Nigeria's level of infantry light weapons and surveillance equipment capability on the African continent.

Patchesagain:
Su30MK is the export version

Again, we are talking about the Russian airforce... why are you talking about Su30's operated by India and other export partners?

Do your research and stop wasting my time with childish games

You did not even notice that your brother @Fighter Pilot is cleverly avoiding supporting your dummy dundeee thinking and commenting that a whole $ 60 million year 2015 made 4+ Generation jet fighter has no radar warning receiver that became world standard since year 1960s.

You know NOTHING about air warfare, mumu !

South African born Cape Colony fool, EVERY Su- Flanker in this world carries a radar warning receiver RWR as a standard....fool

" Electronic Warfare :

Defensive systems in legacy and production Flankers include a Radar Warning Receiver, mostly variants of the SPO-32 / L150 Pastel digital receiver carried. The latest subtypes like the Su-35BM/Su-35-1 carry the KNIRTI L175M Khibiny M Radio Frequency Surveillance (RFS = ESM/RHAW) system" . http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Flanker.html

Patches, you are my prisoner-slave, I will rub mud in your face regularly until your Southie friends start begging me to free you
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Patchesagain:
1. Thanks for reminding us that the greatest military on earth uses only one camo scheme

2. Citation needed for SANDF cammo failure

1. USA new camo is more green, not foolish brownie like SANDF.

2. Citation ? See SANDF one camo in a green bush, I can sniper shooot off your troops coconut skulls from 2 km away, clearly visible. FAILURE

Patchesagain:
South Africa... who's average rifleman has been wearing that kit since the 1970's

But... in reality... we know what the average kit of a nigerian soldier looks like

.....Nigerian army kit looks like this when we are in real fire smoking combat zone....

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Patchesagain:
Super-kit?

In South Africa we call that standard kit

SANDF standard kit ? I see your rag tag South African soldiers wearing no helmet or just cricket team players face cap in a war zone
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Henry120:
Please pardon me!


Military humour, just for laughs!

This is so hilarious......... And equally sad!

Even Congo DRC is now safer than Syria

FighterPilot:
By next year the US will b using one universal ACU and has already been launched on the July 1.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/06/02/US-Army-unveils-new-camouflage-combat-uniforms-slated-for-release-next-month/1001433256005/

Is South Africa a slave colony of USA so that if they do any wrong thing you must copy them like a slave with no brain of your own?

US Army has changed camo pattern several times in a fruitless search for one single camo for all terrain.

Anyway, the new USA camo is not brown like SANDF camo you dunce, the new US camo is much more of green .

SANDF brown camo is a failure in green jungle. The new USA camo is totally different from yours !

FighterPilot:
How is it the best in Africa?

Show me an African country with better kits than Nigeria.....
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Patchesagain:
1. We have talked about this, the US military/English/French etc are all only using one cammo type

2. Yes, cammo can work on jungle/desert/Savannah.

3. Yes, generally when you take a close-up picture of a person... you can see the person in the picture.

Stop wasting our time with your childish arguments

1. USA and Europe have not all fully changed to one single camo, we proved that here last year, so don't drag us back. The NATO countries have no plans of going into any African green jungle to fight war, they don't care. Plus the new single camo is still under experiment and field testing, the soldiers are already complaining about poor blending with environment. Also, the new USA single camo is far superior to the tailors roadside textile material used for SANDF brownie uniforms, the USA camo is made to be far more green than brown.

2. South African brown camo is a failure inside African green terrain, it only works in your homeland brown environment. That uniform will get SANDF troops killed in large numbers by snipers in a green vegetation battle theater.

3. See your failed single brown homeland camo and compare Nigerian green jungle camo that we use in jungle terrain.

#ONE CAMO = FAILURE TO BLEND.....your army can only fight at home where land is brown

Patchesagain:
Do russian Su30's have RWR?

Citations please

Lol, the only one who is being demolished here is you... we are talking about Russia v USAF and you are posting about Indian SU30's? Clown!?!

Bwahahaaha

Nigerians will ALWAYS defeat you South Africans in any debate on earth.

You first said Su-30 has no radar warning receiver RWR. I proved you wrong.

You changed story and said only Malaysian Su-30 has RWR. We proved you wrong again.

I told you EVERY reasonable jet fighter on earth has a RWR, and every Su-30 Flanker has it, you should have accepted defeat once instead of getting Nigerians to humiliate y.ou 3 times in 3 days.

According to Sukhoi company the manufacturer, Su-30 series are standard built with RWR

" 6.0 Electronic countermeasure equipment
6.1. Radar warning receiver with an expansion block
6.2. Chaff and heat flare dispenser
6.3. Radio jamming transmitter in pod ."

http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/military/su30mk/lth/

You now see why Nigerian brains are 100 times better than the Southie dullards in your top ranked South African universities, we b.eat you ALL THE TIME
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FighterPilot:
You started it.

Nope, Patches started it out of envy of Nigerian army super new kit that's the best in Africa, this photo choked him with envy.