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Patchesagain:
No, you got humiliated

Then you started pulling your usual stunts and serious forums members started ignoring you

You say you are a military researcher... who do you work for? Just name the company

You think a picture of a finger infront of a tv proves something?

Show us a picture of today's newspaper in your city, your green card (obscure sensitive details) or better yet - show us a picture of the bore of your "gun"

You can start the I.D show by posting the data page with photo of your face, full name, house address etc.

Then tell us the name of your employer whom you work for, and post copy of your letter of employment as proof
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Snydergp1:
You are truly pathetic, I asked you proof of the company you work for and you post that nonsense.

Your pic has simply no relation to what I asked you and once again you try and change the goal posts.

I've posted over a year ago my rank in the SAAF on this very forum need I say more.

You kicked no one around other then blatant lies and racially motivated posts when we started proving you are clueless.


I will gladly challenge you on any matter related to air and land defense if the need arise, other then that I will do like I did on defenceweb and ignore you because frankly I don't think you even have a clue on most things related to military as been shown by your antics in the past.

Any fraudster can claim with mouth on internet that he is an SAAF staff, with ZERO proof !

You can start the I.D show by posting the data page with photo of your face, full name, house address etc.

Then post for us, your SAAF service man identity card showing your full data and photo as proof
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Patchesagain:
The fact that we have a better credit rating than you says that we can afford it

It says that lending us money is still a sound investment

Unlike Nigeria

Credit rating is subjective, ranking by human beings, like FIFA world football rankings.

Your credit rating does not pay off your debt, it means you are free to sink deeper into more debt by taking more loans that your great great great grand children will work like slaves to repay the European creditors....fool....you think credit is an asset? Nope, it's a liability you fool !

Southie mumu boasting about loan....borrowed money....he thinks South Africa owns the cash...he thinks it's a Christmas gift
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Patchesagain:
14 pilots

60 hours each

I dont know why this is still under discussion

It's all because you like to have the last say, and I won't let you.

SAAF has 6 Gripen pilots.

CASE CLOSED
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mzilakazi:
IT IS OFFICIAL YOUR DEBT STAND AT $63 BILLION AS AGREED UPON BY MINISTER LWEALA.

As proved in my earlier comment with source from Minister Iweala, Nigeria owes $7 billion, DMO debt management office claims it's $9 billion.

We owe between 7 to 9 billion dollars foreign debt.

You owe 144 billion dollars foreign debt....ya all gonna die in debt in South Africa
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mzilakazi:
RECENTLY YOU LOANED $2.1 billion. WHAT ABOUT THAT ONE?

Offered by world bank, not yet taken, needs senate approval by Nigerian law. Dummy !

mzilakazi:
IT IS OFFICIAL YOUR DEBT STAND AT $63 BILLION AS AGREED UPON BY MINISTER LWEALA.

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/nigerias-external-debt-to-wbank-afdb-others-hit-n1-63trn/

Minister Okonj Iweala's name is NOT even mentioned in that your source , your source is quoting DMO and Minister Iweala works for FMF not DMO you dunce !

You failed comprehension in school, read your won source....

"External debt rose to $9.7 billion by the end of 2014 while domestic debt stood at $47.04 billion."

You mixed up domestic debt with external debt, the $63 billion is called total debt stock of domestic and external you fool !

Do you want us to add domestic debt to South Africa's $144 billion? It will tear off the roof top o !
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ssaengine:
For the aviation enthusiasts....SAAF Gripen.
What he does at 05:29 looks so damn sexy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thUaVt5hcA8

Those are some of the shows that make up your 200 hours flight for Gripen fleet....you see half the time is for ceremonies.

Unarmed Gripen, flying over the head of clapping civilians, no combat opponent, no combat training....dropping flares for people to cheer.

SAAF = Ceremonial force.

6 Gripen pilots fly 10 to 20 hours per year....ZERO combat qualification

Thanks for proving my point with that ceremony video.

Snydergp1:
Let's settle this useless arguments and be truthful for once in your miserable life.

You say you are a military researcher.
-Show us who you are working for name the company.
-Proof here that your research has been publish and who is publishes your research
-Give us a reference so we can verify if you are truly a researcher.

The reason I ask this is because nothing you say here has ever proven to me that you are in a military field from, technical know how to general specifics shows me you are really clueless.

If you are who you claim to be I dare you to take me personally on when it comes to all technical aspects of aircraft and ground based defense systems in both Nigeria, SA or Angola Su-30. I will proof to you even without a Gripen in the air SANDF will still shoot down any Su-30 in our airspace.

I've asked you this on other sites.

You can start the I.D show by posting the data page with photo of your face, full name, house address etc.

Then tell us the name of your employer whom you work for, and post copy of your letter of employment as proof.

After that, I will respond, but for now, I have posted some photos and that is all I will do until you start the I.D. show.


You are one of the 20 South Africans that Augustine kicked around like a football on defenceweb recently, 20 VS 1 and you Southies still lost.

Yes I work in defence industry, as a military researcher in America. If any body thinks otherwise, feel free to challenge my comments on air, land, and sea warfare....even if you are a brigadier general, air marshal, vice admiral....I am ready for anybody'd challenge .


- Augustine
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patches689:
We can affors our debt

Nope, $144 billion debt - $40 billion cash reserve = $104 billion debt unpaid forever !

South Africa CANNOT afford it's debt, it's killing the economy like slow poison, your great great great grand children will inherit your debt !
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mzilakazi:
A whopping bill of $63billion as agreed by minister Lweala.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/okonjo-iweala-jonathan-incurred-21bn-of-63bn-national-debts/210139/

Nope, your above source is NOT finance minister Okonjo Iweala, read her official report where she said people have been telling lies...

Nigeria's federal ministry of finance says Nigeria's current external debt is $6.67 billion or about $7 billion.

http://www.fmf.gov.ng/the-media/speeches/127-clarifying-nigerias-debt-position.html


South Africa is a debt slave owing white nations $ 144 billion, Europe owns your economy forever, you are trapped in their debt cage for life
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mzilakazi:
Nigerian government borrows money to pay workers.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/150506055148505.html

Aljazeera's half illiterate journalist is smarter than you

Nigerian government sources the money from Nigerian revenue, not from outside. We are lending federal money to states. Mother feeding her children....get it? Mumu, It's done all over the world, a federal government is custodian of national wealth and can help state governments.

"Opening up on the assistance to be rendered to the states, a source in the presidency said the president approved a three-pronged relief package that would end the workers’ plight nationwide.

He said this entails: The sharing of about $2.1 billion (N413.7bn) in fresh allocation between the states and the federal government.
“The money is sourced from recent NLNG (Nigeria Liquefied Natural Gas) proceeds to the Federation Account, and its release was okayed by the president,” the presidency official explained.

The second measure, he said, is a Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN)-packaged special intervention fund that would offer financing to the states, ranging from between N250 billion and N300 billion."

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/buhari-okays-n413-7bn-bailout-for-fg-states/214095/

South Africa will die inside debt of $144 billion, you will never be able to repay, it's modern day slavery, RSA is slave to EU again !
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mzilakazi:
Nigeria's crashing oil economy.


http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/21/world/nigeria-oil-economy/

The whole world of oil and gas economies are in the same boat like Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Norway, Canada, Russia, and many others are in it.

If Nigeria is crashing, then the world too is crashing

mzilakazi:
You can never deny that your country is on the brinks of collapse.

SA revenues is not $40 billion or else we would have never qualified to be offered a loan of $144 billion. dummy.


Correction: South Africa has total revenues of $ 120 billion and external debt of $70 billion.

Nigeria has a total debt of $63 billion.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/183665-bulk-of-nigerias-63-billion-debt-incurred-by-apc-states-pdp.html


We spend $5 billion every month just on giving 16 million people grants.

You pay grants to lazy black men who refuse to work, adult parasites of able bodied men in the laziest country in Africa

Nigeria's debt figure is not $63 billion, you figure is from a political party PDP, mumu, national debt is obtained from government finance ministry or central/national bank.....fool, you always get lectures from the wrong people.

Nigeria's federal ministry of finance says Nigeria's current external debt is $6.67 billion or about $7 billion.

http://www.fmf.gov.ng/the-media/speeches/127-clarifying-nigerias-debt-position.html

South Africa's external debt is $ 144 billion confirmed by your own government's national bank as at today 2015

https://www.resbank.co.za/Lists/News%20and%20Publications/Attachments/6791/Gross%20External%20Debt%20%20%E2%80%93%201st%20Quarter%202015.pdf

South Africa is biggest debtor in Africa....you set a new record....keep giving cash handouts to lazy Zulu men while your country drowns in debt
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DieVluit:
Soon to be a BRICS bank debtor. There's no other way. A country that borrows to pay government salaries and relies on oil sales for 80% of its forex is doomed. You are doomed and that's that.

http://ewn.co.za/media/2015/07/22/nigeria-economy-running-out-of-money

Nigeria did not borrow to pay salaries. States/provinces borrowed from Federal government that had income from shares/tax....show we where Nigeria as a nation borrowed to pay salaries. Federal govt bailed out the states, America and Canada do the same.

Nigeria gets forex from solid mineral exports not just oil.

South Africa too depends mainly on mineral export for forex and you are neck deep in debt of $144 Billion.

Nigerians living abroad send forex home up to $ 20 billion every year....that's a source of dollars called diaspora remittances
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patches689:
You dont live in north america

Every time i ask for proof you run away

Is Korea an ANC prison yard?

Yes, North Korea is, that's where you are doing immigrant slave labour
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ssaengine:
I see you ran away like a little b*tch.

You made up "10 to 20 hours" claiming that the rest are used at airshows and ceremonies.
That means YOU are saying SAAF Gripen pilots fly "13 to 23 hours" a year at airshows and ceremonies. Show us the link which says that.
You are making sh*t up and its not even funny any more. Just ruining the topic.

Useless human being.

Useless human beings are SAAF pilots who are not combat qualified, useless for war.

Gripen fleet flies 200 hours a year....6 pilots.

1. Yearly SAAF anniversary ceremony air shows, estimate : 4 days rehearsal + 1 day ceremony day, 5 hours per jet x 6 Gripens = 30 hours
2. Yearly National day anniversary ceremonial flights same as above : 30 hours
3. Funeral ceremonies for VIP, or wasted hours flying to Zambia/Congo for shadow boxing with Seleka rebels by parking Gripens at Congolese airport doing nothing, round trip flight estimate : 30 hours
4. Other wastes of hours not mentioned above.
5. Losses of hours due to aviation fuel shortages not included above.

200 - 90 = 110 hours estimate.

110 divided by 6 pilots = 18 hours per pilot.

SAAF Gripen pilots fly between 10 to 20 hours a year . PROVED

Angolan Su-30 jets will R.ape SAAF and SANDF till your nation bleeds into coma and begs for mercy from Angolan people
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DieVluit:
Yes, the government did not cut salaries by 50%. It simply stopped paying them. A cut of 100% for the affected workers.

LOL....they all being paid this month, all arrears paid....Buhari released new government income form dividend/shares and VAT tax revenue.

Delay is not denial as wise men say.

Seems old newspapers' stories get super-glued to your tiny brain

South Africa will need 10 generations of your parents descendants to pay off African record $144 billion debt
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Patchesagain:
We can afford our debt

You cannot

That is why

Also, we havent had to declare bankruptsy or cut government wages by 50%

Nigeria did not cut government workers/civil servants wages by 50% or else you will see nation wide strikes by labour union.

Buhari and his political class are the ones who voluntarily cut their own huge wages by 50%, same thing happened this year in Canada, the world is doing it, not only Nigeria.

Nigerian law requires bankruptcy to be declared by the Accountant General of the federation, not the president. World Bank just offered us $2.1 billion new loan today just to build houses for people, nobody offers a normal term loan for building houses to a bankrupt borrower.

You know nothing about finance and accounting....mumu.

Then South Africa CANNOT afford her debt, you actually sank deep in it and accepted your fate, so nobody is complaining.

South Africa owes external debt of $144 billion and has cash reserve of $40 billion....you have a deficit of $104 billion more than your pocket !

Nigeria has external debt of $7 billion and cash reserves of $30 billion....we can pay off our debt in one day and still have $23 billion saved in out pockets.

If South Africa spends all her cash reserve to pay off her debt, you will still be owing $104 billion....your great grand children will keep paying debt for the next ten generations of children yet unborn

You are broker than broke ! $144 billion debt you owe the white nations !

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/south-africa/external-debt
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mzilakazi:
SA national revenues= $120 billion perfectly qualifies for $40 billion debt.

Nigeria's federal revenues =$23 billion does not qualify for $40 billion debt.

Nigeria's foreign debt goes to over $9 billion after borrowing $2.1 billion from the world bank.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/187051-boko-haram-nigeria-borrows-2-1-bn-from-world-bank-to-rebuild-north-east.html

Nope, Nigeria has NOT yet taken the loan. It needs Senate approval, Nigerian law does not allow the president to unilaterally borrow that much.

World Bank pledged the loan, but Nigeria has NOT accepted the money or accessed the funds. We do NOT owe them as at today, senate can disapprove it.

"By Julia Payne

ABUJA, July 21 (Reuters) - Nigeria's presidency said on Tuesday the World Bank had pledged to spend up to $2.1 billion to rebuild the northeast of the country that has been devastated by Boko Haram militants.

President Muhammadu Buhari met with representatives of the World Bank, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and the World Health Organization during a trip to Washington.

A World Bank spokeswoman said that during the meeting, the bank said the sum of $2.1 billion could be lent to Nigeria from its development agency and that support could also come from the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development."

http://af.reuters.com/article/nigeriaNews/idAFL5N1013XY20150721

The bolded parts tell you we have NOT taken the offer, they offered us, we did not ask for it.

Today, we owe only $7 billion external debt
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Patchesagain:
As a percentage of GOVERNMENT INCOME

That debt is very managable - infact, our government workers just got a raise!

Your debt is not

We have discussed this before, and you got thrashed - stop bringing it up

Nigeria, foreign debt $7 billion

South Africa, foreign debt $40 billion

We can all see who is broke and sunk in deep shït debt that cannot be repayed
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Patchesagain:
Canada has an unemployment rate of 6%

Canada has not slashed Government Employees wages by 6%

About 200,000 workers got sacked recently in Canada, employers not able to pay salaries. 30,000 new people lined up in food banks to avoid hunger and starvation due to joblessness.

Nigeria is not sacking that volume of workers, we rather chose to delay salary payment.

Hey dude, don't argue North American continent with me, it's my terrain, you don't even know how the economy here is run, it's statistics have peculiar meaning you cannot understand in your ANC prison yard where you do google copy and paste

Patchesagain:
Approx 14 Gripen pilots 2 years ago
Averaging 60 hours - more than half of the airforce

These are the facts, there is nothing to argue about

SAAF has only 6 Gripen pilots today 2015
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DieVluit:
What an id1ot you are. A cut amounting to 5% of what you earn is far better than one amounting to 50% of what you earn, whether you are talking nairas or dollars. Fact is 50% of your officials's salaries will be cut. That's 50% closer to 100%. The Canadians are a whopping 95% away from 100%. A share that loses 50% of its value is worse than one that loses 5% if its value, even if you are comparing pennies and dollars

Face it, you are dirt poor, you lot. You have no money. Your president said it and your nation is acting it. People are sitting unpaid and you have already borrowed more than half of your borrowing limit; and it's not even August yet.

South Africa exceeded it's borrowing limit many years ago ! Foreign dollar debt of $40 Billion that you cannot afford to repay

Nigeria owes only $7 Billion, so South Africa is 6 times poorer than we are....SA is in debt deep shiit...can't compare that kinda multi-billion dollar debt to the salary arrears Nigeria just paid with shares/dividend and tax income.

Now go pay South Africa's $40 Billion debt first, then come back and talk about Nigeria

Onigbese Southie...

DieVluit:
But their government workers have not gone three months without salaries. And 5% is more about demonstrating leadership. 50% is about survival.

And you said Buhari gets his salary. Well, 50% of it is what he will be getting.

No funds for your military is the reality.

5% pay cut in dollars is more cash than 50% in Naira you dunce

They just sacked almost 200,000 workers now jobless in Canada. People are increasing in thousands on queue for hungry people in Food Banks all over Canada....hey it's just 30 minutes drive across my border, I know the world more than you do. You are caged in Soweto prison and your only access to the outside world is by internet on your mobile phone....prisoner of ANC
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DieVluit:
He, along with tons of others, are taking a salary cut. 50%

Nigeria is as poor as a church mouse.

http://eaglereporters.com/2015/07/21/salary-cut-we-cant-stop-buhari-rmafc-declares/

Canada's government politicians too are taking salary cuts....do you read world news or only Soweto Daily Trumpet ?

http://globalnews.ca/news/1801558/watch-live-premier-jim-prentice-holds-news-conference/

Nigeria poor? 2 million barrels of oil per day multiply by $50 multiply by 365 days....never mind the LNG gas, solid minerals, taxes, dividends from investments.

I said we will soon redefine 'broke' from Oxford dictionary....South Africa still has foreign debt of $40 billion, Nigeria owes only $7 billion
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EVarn:
WASHINGTON TO SELL 8 OR MORE APACHE ADVANCED ATTACK HELICOPTERS TO NIGERIA
http://www.persecondnews.com/index.php/psn-news/item/4087-washington-u-s-to-sell-apache-attack-helicopters-to-nigeria

Waiting for FG to confirm or NAF.

mzilakazi:
THEN THAT WILL MAKE YOU TO STOP COMPARING YOURSELF TO US. I THINK YOU SHOULD ALSO APPLY FOR MILITARY AID FROM SOUTH AFRICA.

South Africa gets military aid from USA and EU.

SAAF C-130 aircraft and SAN minesweeper ships are all foreign aid gifts from your white masters overseas.
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Patchesagain:
What are you even talking about?

How does this change the fact that SAAF Gripen pilots get more flying hours than 50% of the French Airforce?

You don't.

France has no pilots shortage. They could have 300 pilots for 130 Rafale jets.

France has minimum of 60 Rafale pilots flying 180 hours. Never mind the 100 Mirage 2000 pilots. French Rafale pilots alone are more than all combat pilots existing in South African air force.

SAAF has 6 Gripen pilots flying 10 to 20 hours each....Botswana is better than you
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mzilakazi:
Next time just make sure you pay your servants please and not with loan money.

mzilakazi:
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAKE LOANS TO PAY WORKERS.

http://dailypost.ng/2015/07/06/buhari-approves-n400billion-for-unpaid-workers-salaries/

The money is Nigerian money income from shares/dividend and VAT taxes, the Federal government gave it as loan to state governments, that's how democracy works, the bigger level of government helps the smaller levels, happens all over the world including USA.

Nigerian money shared or loaned to Nigerians, so what, your own money got missing or we stole from your lean pocket?

mzilakazi:
Bihari says Nigeria is penniless.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33239258

Buhari gets his salary paid ....and he just spent a freshly received $2 Billion cash non-oil revenue given out to state governments

How do we define broke form Oxford dictionary?
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Thiza:
WHY NIGERIANS RUN TO SOUTH AFRICA

Consumer Prices in South Africa are 11.11% lower than in Nigeria
Consumer Prices Including Rent in South Africa are 18.77% lower than in Nigeria
Rent Prices in South Africa are 34.83% lower than in Nigeria
Restaurant Prices in South Africa are 3.99% lower than in Nigeria
Groceries Prices in South Africa are 21.20% lower than in Nigeria
Local Purchasing Power in South Africa is 126.79% higher than in Nigeria

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Nigeria&country2=South+Africa

Why did MTN and over 100 South African companies run to Nigeria?

I see your country is a far less profitable place to do business compared to Nigeria.

Millions of Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Philippinos, Egyptians, Lebanese etc are immigrants all over the world in America, Europe and Africa.

Then South African whites are running away to USA, EU, Australia.

Other South Africans, blacks and coloureds have poor education combined with spirit of laziness and lack of professional job experience to make them survive outside the ANC cash hand out comfort zone for lazy Soweto parasites, that is why your own people cannot travel out.