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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:27pm On Jul 11, 2015
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Second Boko Haram attack inside Chad's capital city in 4 weeks

http://presstv.com/Detail/2015/07/11/419793/Chad-explosion-Boko-Haram-NDjamena-Nigeria

Nigeria warned them to block their side of the border when NA/NAF launched final assault
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:19pm On Jul 11, 2015
Side by side...NAF's new planned procurements....JF-17 and ATAK

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:18pm On Jul 11, 2015
[size=13pt]NAF guided missile armed drone in war theatre[/size]

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 5:17pm On Jul 11, 2015
Rwandan presidential team evaluating Proforce made armoured vehicles.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:57pm On Jul 11, 2015
Patchesagain:
Financial records show that SAAF pilots in 2013 alone averaged 60 hours. Half of french pilots fly only 40 hours per year. Thus, SAAF Gripen pilots train more than 50% of the french fighter pilot cadre
https://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Fighter-Pilots-Doomed-By-Poverty-1-16-2014.asp
French pilots fly 150 hours to 180 hours, and France has a two tier pilot system, French first tier pilots fly 180 hours on Rafale, while second tier pilots fly 40 hours on Rafale plus 140 hours on similar aircraft to Rafale.....that is according to your own source posted above. Your source proved you wrong and prove me right....thanks for the suicide post brah grin grin

https://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Fighter-Pilots-Doomed-By-Poverty-1-16-2014.asp

South African air force Gripen pilots fly a disgraceful 10 hours a year grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:48pm On Jul 11, 2015
Patchesagain:
2. Still bragging about scaring off a supply vessel?
I am laughing at the cowardice of South African navy, SAS Drakensberg had 10 anti-aircraft guns and early warning air defence radar, yet you were afraid of one NAF Alpha jet that had no single guided weapon.....Boko Haram has more courage than SANDF/SAN....they use 2 anti-aircraft guns to fire back at NAF Alpha jets, they don't run like you Southies....pant wetting cowards
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:44pm On Jul 11, 2015
Patchesagain:
1. Chad fought to support Cameroon as Cameroon is Chad's main sea acess point, they care not about Nigeria
LOL....Chadian president has come to Abuja to pay homage to Buhari, I am sure he'e not thinking of accommodating South African jets on his land to invade Nigeria, you think he is mad? His country is land locked and feeds on sea trade coming from Nigeria, and his oil fields are on our borders, so he will favour South Africa and help you attack the source of his national cake ? Patrick the Fool grin grin

Nigeria is surrounded by French speaking countries who take orders from France, I am sure when they ask France for permit to help South Africa to attack Nigeria, the French president will laugh like a comedian. He does not need to say yes or no, he will just be laughing !

Did Chad help your SANDF in Bangui when Seleka rebels were azz r.aping your troops? Chadian army was there atching South African troops slaughtered like goats by Seleka. Did French army come out and fight for you? Nope, they sat down at the airport waiting for you to come beg for medical treatment and flight passage to run back home to Soweto.

South Africa is having a modern day post apartheid isolation, you just are not smart enough to see it
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:37pm On Jul 11, 2015
Patchesagain:
They dont like us?

So I guess that is why we have mutual defence agreements
Bwahahaha, you denied the same mutual defence agreement when we said Nigerian navy was being called by Angola to help them rescue ships captured by pirates, you said the regional defence agreement is not a real defence pact for joint military action grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:06pm On Jul 11, 2015
Patchesagain:
1. No one in SADAC has the ability to invade us
2. Angola is not beefing up, they are modernizing
3. We lament the state of the SANDF because unlike Nigeria we care about our military
4. They dont trust us? Who heads the AUhuh

What arms race?
Head of the AU is NOT commander in chief of all African presidents, nations and armies. You cannot even face Sudan's president and arrest him in your own country, he rubbished your court order, your entire judicial system, slapped Jacob Zuma's mouth and walked like a King to Pretoria airport....50 million Southies were trembling at home grin grin

Angola will eat SANDF for dinner. Zimbabwe has capacity to invade South Africa, Mugabe's army will just drive troops and armour across your common border, same way you don't see Rhino poachers, you won't know until Zimabwean troops are inside your country.

Mugabe's army is far better than Mandela's urinating troops, Zim was hot in Rwandan war. SANDF failed in Burundi crisis.

SANDF wet's trousers when they see Toyota....Zimbabwe has tanks, artillery, and air force to liquidate South Africa !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:00pm On Jul 11, 2015
jln115:
As i said before MBFT takes Downtime and Uptime into account thus the Gripens components will last much longer than a SU-30s components and thus has longer endurance, and btw MBTF isn't the max endurance of an aircraft its the mean time before failure, if it takes longer for something to fail than obviously it has better endurance !
Bwhahahahaha grin grin You have surrendered ! Poor South African science knowledge, you said it many times that MTBF = Endurance ....

jln115:
MTBF = Endurance
I used applied mathematics and science to show you that all 50 million South Africans are slaves of Nigeria when it comes to education.

Formula : Endurance = \int_{t_1}^{t_2}dt=-\int_{W_1}^{W_2}\frac{dW}{F}=\int_{W_2}^{W_1}\frac{dW}{F}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_(aeronautics)

Mean time between failures (MTBF) is the predicted elapsed time between inherent failures of a system during operation

Formula : MTBF = \int_0^\infty tf(t)\, dt \

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_time_between_failures

Endurance is NOT = MTBF...the mathematical formulas are clearly different ! I forced you to eat humble pie tongue tongue

Now show me Gripen jet Endurance ! Su=30 Flanker is 10 hours Endurance !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
jln115:
MTBF=Endurance
MTBF takes downtime and uptime into account
Nope, why did Su-30 manufacturer say Endurance = 10 hours instead of MTBF = 10 hours ?

Why are all manufacturers calling Endurance just Endurance, ATR-42 is quoted 11 hours, Super Tucano quoted at 6.5 hours, why did manufacturers not call it MTBF ?

MTBF is Mean Time Between Failure....includes the whole aircraft, mechanical and electrical, electronics, including radars Not just engine.

Endurance is engine flight sustainability.

I can switch on my Gripen and just taxi around the airport for driving around on my tyres for 7.6 hours, engine running not flying, less fatigue, less heat, less stress, my MTBF is 7.6 hours so all systems should be working well. That is a test of MTBF.

Try fly the same Gripen in the air at supersonic speed and see your engine temperature guage rise up with heat ! That is test of endurance.

In aviation, endurance is the maximum length of time that an aircraft can spend in cruising flight. Endurance is different from range.

Formula : E = \int_{t_1}^{t_2}dt=-\int_{W_1}^{W_2}\frac{dW}{F}=\int_{W_2}^{W_1}\frac{dW}{F}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_(aeronautics)

Mean time between failures (MTBF) is the predicted elapsed time between inherent failures of a system during operation

Formula : M = \int_0^\infty tf(t)\, dt \

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_time_between_failures

Show me source definitions that says Flight Endurance = MTBF.....because the mathematical formulas are different ! tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:50am On Jul 11, 2015
mzilakazi:
DID EBEN EVER TOLD YOU THAT HE IS AN ENERMY OF ANC? MERCENARY ACTIVITIES IS A CRIME IN SOUTH AFRICA.
That makes him a criminal in your country and a friend of Nigeria, we will use your old recces and koevets against you tongue tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:40am On Jul 11, 2015
mzilakazi:
APARTHEID SOLDIERS ARE STILL AN IMPORTANT ASSERT IN SANDF AS AT TODAY AND THOSE WHO LEFT WAS AT THEIR OWN ACCORD NOT BECAUSE OF MANDELA.
Col Eben Barlow is now an enemy of South African ANC government that wants to arrest him, your best now works for Nigeria today 2015 as our servant, we can even turn your own ex-recces against you with our dollars !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:14am On Jul 11, 2015
Patchesagain:
Uganda and Zambia allready allow us to use their facilities what is to stop nations that dislike Nigeria (Cameroon or Chad) from doing the same?
African Union protocol and United Nations law on aggression.

Last time I checked, Chad fought in support of Nigeria and Cameroon is ready to join our multinational force....South Africa has ZERO influence in our region. Remember Ivory Coast, SAS Drakensberg ran away from West Africa with Soweto navy men pissing in their trousers.

Those countries like Zambia helped you against rebels that toppled a legitimate government. It's not the same as invading a country that has legitimate government.

You don't know international law, all of them will face embargoes, and once you team up with others, you will see Nigeria teaming up with Egypt, the world will see you and them as aggressors against one nation. Nigeria will get support from Egypt who are already in love with Nigerian military.

Not only you can do things, not only you can get foreign help, think like an adult.....buffoon cheesycheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
undecided
Patchesagain:
South African special forces have deployed from submarines to raid oil instillations in the past

Dont talk to me about civilian grade equipment that can easily be defeated by low level flying

ATR42 isnt AWACS

At around 60 hours per year (10 more than most french pilots) I would say that at the very least we are combat qualfied
French pilots fly 150 to 180 hours per year, and they have two tiers of pilots, regulars who fly basic hours, and elite who fly more hours.

SAAF pilots fly a shameful 10 hours a year, that means ZERO qualification for combat. Tanzanian F-7 jets will defeat SAAF .

Anyway, ground laser designators are useless to you because SAAF has no aircraft with range to reach Nigeria....finito !

NAF has AWACS capability on ATR-42, proved by manufacturer of it's Gabbiano radar air to air mode. Confirmed here with sources many times.

SAAF too uses civilian grade radar for fixed very long range radar detection, you do not have military radar of 500 km range.

Thales radar is world class, you cannot fly 12 to 24 aircraft and escape detection by Nigerian Thales radar, your aircraft are NOT stealth, and a whole two squadrons makes a huge radar signature for super easy detection, your huge aircraft formation will be seen 500 km away, even our radar satellites and Gulf of Guinea OPVs would have detected you air force right from when you pass Angola 1,000 km away from Lagos.

Hey, we don't need this argument, SAAF has ZERO air refueling capability to fly 9,000 km so your fuel of 600 km will end your journey inside Atlantic ocean, fish and octopus will eat all your drowned pilots. cheesycheesy

South African recces that used submarine in bush war are now old, retired, dead, or sick on wheel chair.

I like the way you said "In the past, SADF did it".....you admit it's past glory, so sad your glory is past tence undecided

Today's SADF recces NO LONGER exist in that old form, Mandela flushed out all the experienced apartheid soldiers. Col Eben Barlow is now an enemy of South African ANC government that wants to arrest him, your best now works for Nigeria today 2015 as our servant, we can even turn your own ex-recces against you with our dollars ! Now you have black rookies who have ZERO war experience, your current special forces were defeated in your homeland by Rhino poachers.

That Nigerian Niger delta is mangrove swamp terrain, it's not the dry land bush you have in Angola. Water snakes, crocodiles, sinking mud bogland, deadly insects etc are all there and no South African soldier has experience of such terrain.

Our Niger delta is the most heavily patrolled region in Africa....thousands of marine police, amphibious army, civil defense gendarme on every oil installation infrastructure, navy riflemen, and Niger Delta militants who are masters of the terrain were employed by government to monitor the whole region....and the oil refinery is not on the coastline, it's built in the towns suburbs in open land heavily guarded, so you need to cross the massive swamps first and all the tens of thousands of military, paramilitary, and militant patrol teams of armed men that were born and grew up inside that swamp....yöur SANDF troop are dead on arrival !

Niger delta oil region is the most defended part of Nigeria, there is total coverage coastal radars and total coverage of TV cameras with real time videos and 50 km range from shore to sea, when your submarine surfaces it will be seen !

Your recces will be captured alive in Ijaw land so they will be used for sacrifice at the idols shrine of Ijaw Egbesu cult, please send them to come o, preferably white-men, Egbesu loves to drink the blood of strangers cheesycheesy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:37am On Jul 11, 2015
jln115:
Nice try bro but unfortunately for you the MTBF formula takes downtime and uptime into account! So yes Endurance = MTBF
And i see youve all of a sudden doubled your endurance time for the Su-30 from 5 to 10 hours!!! Well done Bro!!
Su-30 max endurance according to manufacturer is 10 hours.

http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/military/su30mk/lth/

MTBF = MTBF

Endurance = Endurance

Your South Adrian nation does not know basic science, I am sure you think speed and velocity are the same too cheesycheesy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:32am On Jul 11, 2015
jln115:
The Gripen has an exceptional MTBF of 7,6 hours meaning it can fly for 7,6 hours minimum without any failures! And another thing!! the engine will last much longer than the Radar and other software when one talks about MTBF

http://www.mirage-jet.com/AIRFRAME/MAINTE_1/mainte_1.htm
Unfortunately you are wrong undecided undecided

Endurance is NOT = MTBF.

Endurance is non stop flight hours.

MTBF, Mean Time Between Failure is how many hours in total befire any mechanical or electrical failure occurs, I can fly 5 hours and stop today, then tomorrow I fly 2.6 hours to add up my 7.6 hours MTBF.

jln115:
The Gripens engine on the other hand have a very high MTBF!! Which means its engines will take much much longer to fail than the Su-30s engines and thus have much much longer endurance!
You say Gripen better MTBF than Su-30 and therefore Gripen longer endurance. No, let me burst your bubble, endurance for Su-30 is 10 hours non stop flight.....Gripen is far below that.

7.6 hours = MTBF for Gripen, not flight endurance.

Don't mix oil and water again, you hear ?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:54am On Jul 11, 2015
jln115:
Dude, you do realize that the engines of the SU-30 are notorious for having an extremely low MTBF right? thus meaning that the average time it takes before the engines fail are lower than most fighters in the world, meaning they have theoretically less endurance than your average fighter!

The Gripens engine on the other hand have a very high MTBF!! Which means its engines will take much much longer to fail than the Su-30s engines and thus have much much longer endurance!
Show us proof of Gripen endurance hours
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
jln115:
Dude AGAIN!! the SU-30 can fly 8000km with 2 in flight refueling if they want to!!:http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/military/su30mk/lth/

You obviously know nothing about the endurance of fighter engines!
8,000 km range with no bomb load !

Does SAAF have Su-30 Flanker? No, you have Gripen.

My earlier posts I already said Su-30 has one of the longest endurance in the world of jet fighers, you are just confirming my claim to be correct.

I didn't have all the figures for Su-30 in my head, I was focused on range with bomb load at 5,000 km, not range 8,000 km with no bombs carried.

Yes, I know a lot about flight engine endurance, Super Tucano range is 4,820 km so at 480 km/hr it should fly 10 hours, but manufacturer says endurance is only 6 hrs 30 mins.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/super_tucano/

Range is NOT = Endurance.

Aircraft fuel guage can still show the pilot he has lots of km range still available in the fuel tank, but once engine non stop flight endurance hours has been reached, the aircraft must land somewhere or else there will be disaster.

That is proved by applied science of aeronautic engineering and manufacturer specifications publishing aircraft endurance hours for users.

Thank me for teaching you about flight sndurance, I just saved your entire air force from dropping dead into Atlantic ocean due to engine fatigue while trying to reach Nigeria cheesycheesy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:55am On Jul 11, 2015
jln115:
1. When a SAAF aircraft is retired, its moved to ARMSCOR for disposal,the aircraft is kept in relatively good condition for the purpose of selling the Aircraft to a potential customer or scrapped for spares, in the case of the our boeing 707s one was moved to the Air force museum in 2007 and is still kept in Good condition, the other was scrapped for spares to maintain the existing one.

2. The Rafale endurance you were quoting HAD NOTHING to do with the endurance of the engine, it was the max endurance with the available fuel!

3. When your Alphas flew from America, did they fly straight from US non stop(exc Refueling stops) or did they have to stop every 3 hours for maintenance because their engines could not last that long?
The Alpha jet stopped over in other countries.

Don't claim you flew a distance with Gripen if you stopped over in another country to beg for fuel refill and cool down your engine, that's the lesson I am teaching you.

All aircraft have engine flight endurance limit, air refueling does not mean it will fly for ever! Even buses and trains stop over to cool down engine in very long journeys.

Su-30 Flanker range is about 5,000 km with air refueling, why did the manufacturer not say it will fly 10,000 km as long as it gets more and more air refueling?

Super Tucano range is about 4,800 km meaning at 480 km/hr it will fly 10 hours, but the maximum endurance is 6 hrs 30 mins.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/super_tucano/

Your dullard country does not have competent Physics teachers, so you don't know the meaning of engine fatigue and engine over heating. Olodo.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:46am On Jul 11, 2015
lezz:
Mozambique, Zimbabwe and Angola will gladly surrender their airspace to us to make a minced meat put of south Africa.

SADC might be united, but most hate xenophobic south Africa. Don't forget you're the only African country isolated 3 times. grin
The guy thinks other African countries will donate their airport and fuel to South Africa for use in attacking Nigeria, he thinks international politicians run diplomacy like on the streets of Soweto who support on street gang against another by throwing stones and burning tyres across the road.

South Africa that cannot even arrest a criminal Sudanese president on Pretoria's homeland soil even with a court order. He thinks South Africa has political influence to do and undo in Africa.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:34pm On Jul 10, 2015
jln115:
Dude if i didnt know that they stopped in Zambia WHY did i post pictures of our Gripens in Zambia a few weeks ago? You said our Gripens can't reach Zim, i just used the DRC as an example to prove you wrong!

Secondly as i said before, our Gripens or Hawks for that matter could easily reach Nigeria, Both have air to air refueling probes and we will receive new transports in the next 2-3 years and if the need arises we could just bring our 707 out of retirement!
SAAF air refueling aircraft is now in a museum for decoration, stop romancing a corpse. You need American help to rebuild that jet, and Nigeria too can buy air refueling tanker and revive Jaguars.

BTWN, Gripen jet or Hawk jet endurance is not as good as Rafale, yet Rafale jet max endurance is 3 hours non stop flight, so how will SAAF Gripen fly over 6 hours non stop?

I said Gripen won't go beyond Zimbabwe with combat load, you should be smart enough to know I mean without begging another country to let you stop over and refuel....dunce grin grin

NAF's new Alpha jets flew from America to Nigeria this year, but did I come here and start saying NAF Alpha jet can fly to South Africa too ? I am not a fool like you whitey grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:14pm On Jul 10, 2015
jln115:
Fvck!!! I didnt say they flew straight to the DRC without stopping mate!! You Said our Gripens cant teach Zimbabwe!! And Nigeria isn't 10 000km away
Nigeria is about 9,000 km away leaving no chance of any slow down in flight due to bad weather or hostile interception. No pilot calculates last drop of fuel to fly a trip with no reserve fuel, flying a $68 million expensive jet.

Even if we say 7,000 km to Nigeria which is wrong, the Gripen CANNOT fly that distance, it was doing stop over in Zambia on a simple less than 3.000 km flight to DRC grin grin

If you knew your jets stopped over at Zambia, why were you quoting only Congo DRC to boost your false claims of range and endurance?

In war, Zambia or Congo will NEVER allow you to use their territory to stop over and refuel on a trip to attack Nigeria, else you drag them into war....or Nigeria too can send F-7 jets to refuel in Gabon and Botswana to attack South Africa.

Use your brain like a man that went to school.... grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:51pm On Jul 10, 2015
ddami:
Those girls are smart and very good especially the 4o's (oparonzie,oshoala,okobi,ohale), courtney has so many unkown lovers already, you will have to compete with them...,
Their match against USA and Sweden shows that they are good..,
That coach is the team's problem and a disgrace I was soo happy when they sacked him...
Asisat nearly k.illed me o ! After she scored her goal against Sweden, she danced one kain dance like dat, she grabbed her too mangoes and was pushing her waist forward like she wan k.ill me from inside television screen, I almost d*sch**g* !

Courtney get one s*xy shape like dat, she wan turn me to polygamist, hope she and Asisat will not be fighting in my house, I can rent different 3 bedroom flat for each of them, but dis girls can be expensive o ! Dem go bankrupt my account even with bank loan.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:46pm On Jul 10, 2015
jln115:
AND? I know its retired!! I said if the need arises then we could refurbish it!! We are also getting new transports in the next 2-3 years!!
Oohh and BTW.....our Gripens flew all the way to the DRC!!
Your short-legged Gripen jets could NOT fly direct from South Africa to Congo DRC, they were stopping over to beg for fuel and engine cool down in Zambia, half way on their journey. Pretoria to Zambia is 1,150 km and only 1 hour flight.

http://www.mapcrow.info/Distance_between_Pretoria_SF_and_Lusaka_ZA.html

"Four Gripens were seen at Ndola airport in northern Zambia in early April, flying out of the Democratic Republic of Congo on their way back to South Africa, and carrying offensive weapons. The movement of Rooivalk and Gripen aircraft to the CAR region is believed to be the first time these assets have been deployed outside South Africa’s borders for potential combat operations."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30633:rooivalks-gripens-and-troops-were-sent-to-the-car&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

That is the Gripen jet you idiiot want's to fly for 10 hours non stop to Nigeria across the ocean, LOL....Shark will eat all your pilots when your jets drop into the sea water.


I am teaching you about your own air force jets capabilities dude grin grin

Next, show me proof that SAAF has capacity to put a Boeing 707 back into combat from a museum, you don't manufacture the aircraft !

BTWN, retired jets or museum decorations are not recognized as air worthy combat aircraft.

You will fly with no bomb to DRC, but if you carry bombs, you won't fly past Mugabe grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:28pm On Jul 10, 2015
ddami:
NIGERIA'S SUPER FALCONS NO. 1 IN AFRICA,
29TH IN THE WORLD...
I want both Asisat and Courtney at the same time, am in love with 2 women, am going nuts !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:24pm On Jul 10, 2015
jln115:
NO!!! I said the 707 can be refurbished AFTER that post , YOU said that you would bring up the Jaguars and Mig-21s!! I only mentioned the 707 in my first post!!
....Your Boeing 707 air refueling plane is now a museum piece grin grin

.....Gripen or Hawk will never fly 10 hours non-stop even if demons refuel you from the sky, aircraft have endurance limit before engine malfunction starts, even Rafale jet that is superior to all SAAF jets has endurance of only 3 hours maximum, no matter the air refueling.

http://www.deagel.com/Strike-and-Fighter-Aircraft/Rafale-C_a000479002.aspx

Thank me for educating you about endurance and range, they are two different things.

SAAF cannot do combat beyond Robert Mugabe's land !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:19pm On Jul 10, 2015
jln115:
And I said Gripen and Hawk Jets can reach Nigeria with Air to Air refueling ret@rd go read my posts again!
And I said SAAF has ZERO air refueling capacity, your Boeing 707 died 8 years ago and is now in a MUSEUM shocked shocked

[size=13pt]"During 2006, the squadron was involved in the Gripen development programme with a 707 flying to Sweden to conduct in-flight refueling trials.

Operations ended with the Boeing 707 flight flown on 10 July 2007 to Bujumbura, Kinshasa and Kindu. Aircraft 1415 was flown to AFB Makhado on 3 0ctober 2007 and 1419 allocated to the SAAF Museum at Swartkop."

http://www.af.mil.za/news/2007/170.htm[/size]

SAAF cannot fly combat jets beyond Zimbabwe.....eat the humble pie whitey shocked shocked
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:14pm On Jul 10, 2015
jln115:
Dude you brought up the whole thing about reviving your Jaguars and Migs NOT ME and BTW our Cheetah pilots didn't simply vanish in to thin air when we bought our Gripens!
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Nope, you first brought up SAAF Cheetah jets and Boeing 707 jets and I said they are all retired and out of service, no proof of air worthiness and no qualified combat pilots, or else I would bring up NAF 18 Jaguar jets and 22 MiG-21 jets adding 40 new jet fighters.

You started distorting the argument by bringing up dead South African aircraft from the graveyard, fool grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
jln115:
Sold all our Cheetahs? To who? we only sold 12 to Ecuador.

You say our Boeing 707 is dead....But you seem to forget it went out of service only 5 years ago...How long ago did your Jaguars go out of service?

And lastly PROVE to me that a Gripen or Hawk can't fly 10 hours!
Your Cheetah jets, if any remain are dead in bone yard and ZERO qualified pilots to fly them. SAAF has ZERO cheetahs jets in service, even the Gripen that is in service have half in cold freezer storage and no combat qualified pilots, now you bring up dead Cheetah, dead Boeing 707.....aircraft that are no longer airworthy and having no pilots.

We don't entertain dead equipment on this forum, you only argue with what you have.

You must post source of Gripen jet flight endurance, it's your aircraft. No normal jet fighter flies 10 hours non stop, Su-30 Flanker is one of the most enduring in the world, yet with air refueling, its range is about 5,000 km....less than 5 hours endurance.

Show us specs of Hawk jet endurance, it's you claiming 10 hours flight with heavy bomb load.....prove your fairy tale claims ! cheesycheesy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:35pm On Jul 10, 2015
MikeCZAR:
How many Cheetah fighter Jets did SAAF have?

Nigeria has never had aerial refuelling aircraft.
Both the man whose wife died, and the one who never married before, have no wife today . SAAF has ZERO air to air refueling today.

How many Cheetah jets are in South Africa today? Go ask Ecuador cheesycheesy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:11pm On Jul 10, 2015
jln115:
Revive your jaguars and Mig-21s mate...We'll revive our 28 Cheetah Cs and 12 Cheetah Ds Which alone will destroy your entire air force!

And a Gripen or Hawk can easily fly non stop to Nigeria mate(With Air to Air refueling)!! I honestly don't know were you get your numbers from?
SAAF has sold all Cheetah jets, only one or two remain at DENEL for experiment, your own numbers look like barber's shop discussion grin grin

Your Boeing 707 is dead, prove to us it can be revived, the plane is out of service and in junk yard !

SAAF has ZERO air to air refueling capacity since 5 years ago !

No jet fighter in South Africa has flight endurance of 10 hours, combat aircraft don't fly unlimited time you fool !

I need you to show me how SAAF will fly 10,000 km to Nigeria with your 600 km fuel, Olodo Rabata grin grin
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