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Thiza:
SANDF WOMEN

Compare battle-tested Nigerian army women that will defeat your men, not to talk of your women who know nothing but casual s.ex.
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patches689:
Augustus

You have simply rerouted money that was earmarked for something else

That means that somewhere in your buget someone just lost out on $1,6 billion

Show source to prove that dividend income was earmarked for something else, since you are Nigeria's budget and planning minister. Prove it
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Patchesagain:
How do you know it has not been tested at that range? How do you know the Video does not show a launch at that range?

The Fuss is that Al-Tariq is a class leader

Roland will shoot it down? You have 16 Rolands with two missiles - thats 32 SAM's you can launch, assuming an impossible 100% hit rate it means that your defenses will be overwhelmed by just 17 Hawks - we have 24 (meaning we can launch a total of 48 Al-Tariq with Hawks alone, meaning that 16 Al-Tariq will make it through your defences in each raid)

Dont talk to me about your Roland re-loads as those are not available on the AMX chassis. And fact of the matter is that your missiles are expired (just like the Iraqi ones found in 2004 which were sold at the same time as yours)

Yes, they will have Gripen Escort

F-7 fights off Gripen with ease, the Hawks be trapped in a contested air space with missiles flying all over !

@Saengine said the Al Tariq was launched at 40 km and thats all the evidence available.

South African data cannot be trusted, your country tells lies at random.

Roland remains in service with Nigeria and many countries that bought at the same time, we still display them on parade, and we have posted photos of soldiers recently carrying Roland missiles into the vehicle in their regiment. No country with common sense will deploy expired missiles into an air defence regiment. You need to show us a proof of anybody's missiles being expired, or are you their maintenance officer?

All mobile Rolands carry 10 missiles standard, no source ever said it's 2 missiles total, they all say 2 missiles ready and 8 in reserve magazines, the AMX-30 is a tank chassis of an MBT that carries 47 shells inside the vehicle.

Foolish half witted Patches, he thinks the space for 47 tank shells cannot contain 8 small missiles....old man fool

"The Roland missile is a two-stage solid propellant unit 2.4 meters long with a weight of 66.5 kg including the 6.5 kg multiple hollow-charge fragmentation warhead which contains 3.5 kg of explosive detonated by impact or proximity fuses. The 65 projectile charges have a lethal radius of 6 meters. Cruising speed is Mach 1.6. The missile is delivered in a sealed container which is also the launch tube. Each launcher carries two launch tubes with 8 more inside the vehicle or shelter with automatic reloading in 10 seconds."

"Two arm-beams for launching carry each one a missile in its launching tube, and two ammunition stores for munitions each contain one 4 shot mechanism for automatic unloading of the arm-beam. The crew of the vehicle consists of three man."

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/roland.htm

Fool of Gauteng, 16 Rolands will launch 160 missiles in about 90 seconds rapid fire !

@Patches thought Roland has only 2 missiles.....his 50 million countrymen have never seen anything like a Roland in South Africa, he needs to travel to Lagos to see one in his life time
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patches689:
Accidents happen

I find it ironic that you are so obsessed with western crashes when nigeria has such a shocking record

Nigeria has only one crash in 6,000 combat flights. Better record than America.

ssaengine:
Dustin post. How many of those long range guided weapons does Nigeria have? Zero. You dont have to argue every singe post on here, just enjoy the video and move on.

The fuss is that it's a precision long range guided weapon that many countries wish they had. Nigeria wouldn't want such a weapon? Ok then.

120km is achieved using an add on booster. During a testing regime you dont just jump to test the weapon at max range. It's incremental testing, at different ranges, and different flight profiles. You should know that. You are free to ask Denel/SAAF for more videos, many of which are classified.

Yes that's how the weapon is too be used. The Hawks are tens of kilometers behind the Gripens which provide GPS locations for target. Once released the Hawks break away, back into safe airspace.

You are free to have a Umbani/Roland argument with someone else. There are more than 16 (number of Roland systems) high value military and strategic targets to hit in any war.

16 Roland, only one single Roland defended a whole airport in Falkland war, it s.hot down every British bomb and jet that came to attack.

How does South Africa defend it's own high value targets? You have NOTHING close to the power of a Roland.

Gripen jets get s.hot down by F-7, so your Hawks will be eaten up as well. SAAF cannot fly Hawks against NAF, try it with Rwanda instead.

I responded to your post, same way you Southies respond when we post Nigerian made APC or Drones. Simple tit for tat.

DictatorZAR:
Terrified Nigerian soldier giving account of his cowardly narrow escape from the better trained and motivated boko goats.

Here he briefs his commander on his traumatic escape, while receiving trauma counseling from well Renowned Nigerian Army Psychologist who is currently overburdened by soldiers who are going through this horror on a daily basis.

The psychologist told reporters afterwards that he feels overwhelmed by the trauma his fellow soldiers go through and he hopes the new Buhari Federal Administration would heed the call for more Psychologists deployments to effected areas especially army barracks.

Boko Haram fighter disguised in women's clothes, being interrogated by gallant Nigerian troops who captured him alive in battle, he is not a Nigerian soldier, our troops do NOT grow heavy beards like a Osama Bin Laden, your photo is actually a record of Nigerian army bravery and achievement in battle.....SANDF could not even capture one Seleka rebel, yet you claimed to have won a battle you were fleeing from like houseflies

Thanks for posting those photos to the credit of Nigerian army achievement on battlefield.

DENEL needs to manufacture courage syrup for SANDF to stop your soldiers pissing inside trousers all over Sudan
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DictatorZAR:
Far better then wearing woman clothes and escape.

The man in your photo is a Boko Haram fighter disguised in women's clothes captured by Nigerian army

vandalZA:
DUMMY show us a link from world bank....not that self created link!

Why? You Southies rejected world bank report that says Nigeria's poverty level is lower than other sources claimed.

So why do you want world bank for yourself only, and CIA factbook as source for Nigeria?

50% of South Africans live in poverty.

#PROVED
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vandalZA:
DUMMY show us a link from world bank....not that self created link!

Why? You Southies rejected world bank report that says Nigeria's poverty level is lower than other sources claimed.

So why do you want world bank for yourself only, and CIA factbook as source for Nigeria?

vandalZA:
how can you collect tax from a drug lords! DUMMY!

Every foreigner is a drug lord? Including doctors, teachers, office workers, factory workers? Only drug lords live in South Africa?

Mumu you are.

ssaengine:
SAAF Hawk drops Umbani bomb kit (at 40 000 feet) 40 km away from target. Tails it to the target. On board Umbani footage as well. Pin point accuracy. Fvcken cool video. Got to love South African engineering


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwbTabCqNsI

africandefence.net

The claim is range 120 km, why not test it for 120 km?

There are many 50km range guided bombs used all over the world, and many guided bombs are battle tested, so what's the fuss about Al-Tariq?

A Roland SAM will s.hoot down your Al-Tariq bomb with ease. Your Hawk jets need escort or else F-7 jets will eat them for dinner
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mzilakazi:
Foreigners do not pay tax in South Africa.

Citation needed. I am not aware that Nigerian doctors, nurses, teachers, shop owners, etc have tax exemption by South African laws.

Prove it.

mzilakazi:
They steal our money.

http://praag.org/?p=6299

Your source says "
Mozambican and Swazi citizens who illegally receive social grants in South Africa are causing congestion at pay points in Mpumalanga."

Well, Swaziland in right inside South Africa, and Mozambique is at your border, so how does that concern Nigerians who fly 5,000 km to enter with a visa?

Mumu.

mzilakazi:
[size=20]That is true. Foreigners live on SA grants.[/size]


http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2012/06/19/foreigners-travel-to-sa-to-claim-social-grants

Stop all these unnecessary giant fonts size 20. It's only needed for hot headlines/news.

Immigrants pay tax to SA government, and they pay house rent to SA landlords.....you make money from them than you give them
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Thiza:
SANDF WORLD CLASS WEAPONS MANUFACTURED AND DESIGNED BY SOUTH AFRICA

Your defence industry needs to design and make COURAGE syrup for your soldiers to drink, it will stop the pissing inside pants going on in Sudan

Thiza:
SANDF PRODUCTS NOT FOREIGN HARDWARE

The most important weapons in SANDF are all foreign made hardware imported from Europe.....Gripen jet, Hawk jet, C-130 hercules, Valour frigate, Heroine submarine, without them, Zimbabwe will beat y.ou up like an angry man beating his wife
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mzilakazi:
Oops! Bwahahaha…


A government statement on Tuesday says the money will
come from $2.1 billion in dividends recently paid by the
state natural gas agency and through soft loans from the
Central Bank.


http://news.yahoo.com/2-billion-bailout-nigerian-states-pay-workers-140243581.html


If any government uses this method to secure funds, it is a clear sign that its finances are compromised.

Compromised according to what principle of macro-economics? Quote the macro-economics law that proves your claim....dundeee

Before we educated you, you thought dividend income on shares is a loan....domingo

Now support your claims with macro-economics laws....we are waiting....olodo
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mzilakazi:
NIGERIA IS DEPLETING THE EXTERNAL RESERVES, NOW STAND AT BELOW $30 BILLION. IS THIS NOT A SIGN?

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigeria-s-external-reserves-fall-below-30-billion/205171/

All European and Arab countries have lost revenue from oil price falls, even Canada is crying. Global issues are not one man's problem.

Try read news beyond Soweto papers and Tv, your brain is imprisoned and starved of knowledge

Saudi Arabia is suffering almost $40 billion budget deficit, if at all you know the meaning of deficit

http://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/politics/2015/1/4/falling-oil-prices-fuel-saudi-economic-instability

Canada, same story...

http://www.punchng.com/news/bailout-workers-others-warn-govs-against-wasteful-spending/

You are a worse economic analyst than the illiterate Somali refugees that own spaza shop in Soweto
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Henry120:
Why are all your western fighter jets crashing?

http://rt.com/usa/272242-fighter-jet-cessna-crash/

It's been happening for long, they hide it.

Gripen is now making new waves for random crashes, an airframe built to last 50 years is collapsing in 5 years and Hungary is threatening to ground all it's junk aircraft systems JAS Gripen jets in disappointment
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mzilakazi:
Bwahahaha… Nigeria is broke, they made loans to pay salaries of government workers. Shame!!!

Where is the next one going to come from? Is hard to live from hand to mouth.

http://news.yahoo.com/2-billion-bailout-nigerian-states-pay-workers-140243581.html

Bwhahahaha

It's not a loan, its .....

"The package includes the sharing of $1.6 billion dividend and $500m tax by the Nigerian Liquefied Natural Gas Limited paid between the federal and state governments." http://www.punchng.com/news/bailout-workers-others-warn-govs-against-wasteful-spending/

.....income from shares dividend investment of a petro-gas company NLNG and taxes revenue.

Sure you cannot read and understand public finanace/financial accounting, due to the poor education you get from fine schools in South Africa.

Then state governments having salary problem is not a federal problem, afteral, states do not fund military or police, those are funded by federal annual budget.

If federal government of Nigeria has $ 3o billion cash reserve and refuses to spend it, and is getting paid income of $ 2 billion bulk money form business investment and tax revenue to give the states, then Nigeria is not broke.

i have always said, that me as an accountant, can professionaly say that Buhari is wrong to say Nigeria is bankrupt, a bankrupt man does not dish out billions of dollars cash to help others.

Southies, eat the humble pie, you were all WRONG
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[size=13pt]Nigeria not broke : Buhari splashes billions of dollars on salaries, etc

Federal government spends new dividend income from shares invested in LNG gas business [/size]
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Presidency sources had disclosed on Monday that Buhari had approved a comprehensive relief package worth N713.7bn to pay federal workers and bail out cash-strapped states, many of which had been unable to pay their employees.

The package includes the sharing of $1.6bn dividend and $500m tax by the Nigerian Liquefied Natural Gas Limited paid between the federal and state governments.

Besides, the Central Bank of Nigeria is to set up a special intervention fund that will offer between N250bn and N300bn as a soft loan to the states to enable them pay the backlog of salaries.

http://www.punchng.com/news/bailout-workers-others-warn-govs-against-wasteful-spending/

Buhari has not even touched the $ 30 billion cash reserve, some fools think Africa's biggest economy is broke....

Watch us out-spend the rest of Africa ! Bwahahahaha....Money, Owo, Kudi, Ego....aplenty for naija govt purse

andrewza:
Since when is a MPA a AWAC now+

You missed a lot on this thread. NAF ATR-42 has been proved to be MPA + ISTAR + AWACS
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vandalZA:
lol 100 south Africans going to Nigeria not because of poverty but to connect with god compared to over 1million Nigerian going to south Africa because of poverty and better life....you should get the point if you are not mentally ill.! #DUMMY

1. Only 100 South Africans travel to Nigeria ? All that huge Southie crowd in TB and Chris' churces ? Only 100 ? Citation needed

2. A whole 1 million Nigerians live in South Africa? 1 million? Citation needed.

3. Thanks for admitting that the Devil rules South Africa so your people need to come to Nigeria to find God. Where the devil is, is hell on earth, where God is, is heaven on earth. You admit that South Africa is hell, and Nigeria is your people's heaven on earth
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Patchesagain:
Not to mention that you didnt actually know what "standard" training hours were - I was the one who shocked you with the fact that over half of French pilots fly only 50 hours a year and are considered "combat ready"

You shocked only yourself.

Your claim about France is highly flawed, totally flawed !

Then 10 hours by SAAF is far behind 50 hours by France, and that claim about France is flawed.

France has more pilots than aircraft, they don't need all their pilots with max hours.

SAAF already has pilot shortage, plus lack of qualification. South African air force is dead.

Patchesagain:
Should ask why hundreds of millions of Nigerians flee Nigeria to commit crimes across the world

South African crime rate is far worse than that of Nigeria.

Plus, your own fraud goes up to FIFA level, now you ruined Sepp Blatters career because you exported your Soweto criminality into world football headquaters in Europe, the whole world does not trust South Africa again, your national image is wrecked for ever !
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Patchesagain:
Desperate people being defrauded by (surprise surprise) a Nigerian

If one single Nigeria defrauds 100,000 South Africans, then it means we are genius and you are born permanent dundeee domingoes

Patchesagain:
Factually speaking, it is an MPA - according to the MANUFACTURER

But sure, you Mr "Military researcher" can redifine it whatever you want, it doesnt change what it actually IS

Su-30 MKI is jet fighter according to manufacturer, yet classified as mini AWACS by Indian air force due to 400 km radar range.

My military research can see the bottom of a well of water, while you thirst for water on the ground level.

vandalZA:
lolest what can we say Nigerian mentality at its best...... I should buy you a ticket to witness what you wrote above....or you should ask your Nigeria brothers in south Africa to teach you about south Africa if not so ask yourself why 80% of your so called big music stars make their music videos in south Africa......if you are not mentally ill you should get the point! #DUMMY..!

Ask 50 million South Africans why your people fly weekly pilgrimage to Nigeria to seek all round solutions from TB Joshua and Chris Oyakhilome....everything and everywhere and everybody in South Africa is unclean spiritually and mentally
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Patchesagain:
Still not an AWACS

You can apply loose definitions to anything and redifine anything as anything you want

Its an MPA, not AWACS

Your retaaarded denial does not change the facts
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Patchesagain:
Citations have been posted over and over

Never ! None.

All Lion Effort participants are totally silent on who shot down who.

Only you Southies seek glory at other countries' expense and image. You robbers, no wonder armed robbery is a hobby in your country
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Patchesagain:
I will stop striking through your posts when you stop writing fantasy all over this forum

You devaluate the thread

You say we did not qualify for Lion Effort - substantiate it

Citations prove as posted here many times this year that SAAF Gripen pilots have about 10% of standard combat training hours a year, so your pilots are proved unqualified for combat, so how will you qualify to fly beside Europeans in combat game that you are technically not qualified for? Not qualified to fly combat means you are a big accident risk mid-air.

I have substantiated and the repeated posts of flying hours back me up 100%.

Please remember to strike-through this comment because it is your habit when roundly and squarely defeated in any debate
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Patchesagain:
Come with facts or dont come at all

I was actually asking you Southies to post facts of how SAAF s.hot down Sweden's air force Gripens in Lion Effort war game.

You come with facts or don't come at all with the Lion Effort fairy tale
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Patchesagain:
A new level of delusion has been reached

Stop this cowardly habit of cancelling or striking-through other peoples' comments, if you are not intelligent enough to counter their posts, just pretend you did not see it. You devalue this thread with all these random crossing out of peoples' comments.

Mumu .