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How can overfed people like these think straight?, see Anyim, a fat-ass that cannot sit for 15 mins without dozing off. Non of them look sharp, they are all senile. What a shame.

Maybe when some of us on NL grow up to understand that we are the victims here and stop writing comments based on tribal, ethnic and religious sentiment. Maybe when we stop verbally abusing any contributor that has a divergent opinion from ours on issues, then we can have a common front and confront the oppressors.

muami:
Of course, no doubt, the govt needs to cut the cost of governance. However, that is another issue for which Nigerians can now insist they do.That said, if you look at last year's budget figures, you would realise that even if govt cut all non essential expenses, the savings would still be a child's play compared to the amount spend on fuel subsidy. so, any suggestion that govt cuts expenses but still leave fuel subsidy is merely scratching the surface(howbeit huge)

The defenseless public don't have to suffer the brute of their mismanagement. Our Govt is the biggest in the world, Texas is about 74% of the whole of Nigeria.
I posted the salaries and allowances of the 109 senators earlier,, the multitudes of the House of Reps are still there. State Representatives, LGA chairmen, councillors, gazillion of aides e.t.c
Let's have a maximum of 5 states per region, let's adopt a death penalty for mismanagement/embezzlement of public fund of over 1 million naira, life improsonment for over 500k to 1 million. Abolish the silly immunity of serving Governors. All human have the tendency to be corrupt but if there is rule of law in place, people will behave.

muami:
The situation you just described is actually the best time to remove subsidy. This is because the rationale for removiing subsidy is to save money with which to solve all or at least part of the problems you mentioned. If the whole money goes to subsidize fuel, which money would the govt use to fix the infrastructure, water and electricty?

What happened to the money that should have been used to fix these things "the answer" is the same thing that will happen to the saved subsidy fund.
Furniture allowance, feeding allowance, sitting allowance, foreign trip allowance, aristo allowance e.t.c will all increase on the next budget. GEJ will then think of buying another presidential jet. Patience jonathan will take over another Govt. agency building to form a second NGO and syphone these monies through it.
Guys i have met one the Govt. retinue of aides on one of their junket foreign trips, they spend money like water!!!

Can you justify a Nig. Rep. earning more salary than the US president?

What a Senator Earns In Nigeria - N29, 47749.00 Per Year.
Basic Salary - N2, 484, 245.50.
Hardship Allowance @ 50% of Basic Salary - N1, 242, 122.70 ( I love this kind of hardship)
Consistuency allowance @ 200% of BS - N4, 968, 509.00
Furniture Allowance @ 300% of BS - N7, 452, 736.50
Newspaper allowance @ 50% - N1, 242, 122.70 ( Which kind newspaper be this shey na online or hard copy).
Wardrobe allowance @ 25% - N621, 061.37
Recess Allowance@ 10%: - N248, 424.55
Accommodation @ 200% - N4, 968, 509.00.
Utilities @ 30% - N828, 081.83.
Domestic Staff @ 35% - N863, 184.12.
Entertainment @ 30% - N828, 081.83.
Personal Assistance @ 25% - N621, 061.37.
Vehicle Maintenance Allowance @ 75% - N1, 863, 184.12.
Leave Allowance @10% - N248, 424.55.
One off payments (As advised by SagamiteSeverance gratuit)y @ 300% - N7, 452, 736.50 (Once they get fired.)
Motor Vehicle Allowance @ 400% of BS - N9, 936, 982.00 - Every Four Years
Senators Salary per month. - N2, 456, 647.7
Total = N29, 479, 749.00 i.e. $193,945
* 109 Senators Grand Total = N 3, 264, 329, 264.10
i.e. $21,475,850
A feeding frenzy!!!
Salary of U.S. President: $250,000/yr.
GDP U.S. Economy: $13Trillion/ yr.
Allowance Nig. Senator: $1,500,000/yr
GDP Nig. Economy: $45 Billion/yr.
And they want more.
What will happen when the saved subsidy fund becomes available?

muami:
In 2008 when Ethiopia removed fuel subsidy, some analysts argued that exarcebate inflation which was at 19% at that time. However, rather than take to the streets, the people engaged the govt on how the savings should be spent. 3 years later , Ethiopians are smiling as the move helped them to reserve scarce money resources which is being used to achieve food security, enhance health to the population as well as undertake infrastructural developments.

Where is the Petroleum trust fund? where are the Abacha loot money Abdul Salami/OBJ recovered? it evaporated into the thin air. Same will happen to the saved subsidy money, there will be nothing to show for it. There is no rule of law in Naija, politicians will steal money and still boast of it.

There is no excuse for the fuel subsidy removal other than reserving more money to steal by the federal Govt. This is an ill-advised time to do such a thing, the economy is at his lowest ebb, there are no jobs (over 50% of Nigerians are unemployed), no electricity, no water (people dig their own bore holes in 21st century), no infrstructures, no schools, no roads, a lot of greedy politicians recycling themselves in power, and worst of all "no security", nobody is any safe, you can be kidnapped or bombed at anytime.
I have lived in the US for 7 years but i can still relate to what people are going through in Nigeria. I visited Nigeria 2 yrs ago and was shocked at how things were expensive.
I'm just praying for one ruthless no-nonsense military man to topple this charade called Govt., arrest and wipe out all of these greedy inhuman politicians.
To the poster of this topic, i'm sure all of your family aren't all in the US. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Why are people wasting their precious time responding to dumbass like the poster. It is people like this that will come home and haggle over everything they want to buy.

So party politics come first right? otherwise how come it is difficult to declare state of emergency in the whole state? so because they are PDP governors they are untouchables.

Nigeria is endowed with unbelievable wealth, but resources without a system, structure and lasting institutions is dangerous. Religion, poverty, ignorance & illiteracy have destroyed our value system in Nigeria. Religion is clearly the opium of the oppressed and keeps Nigerians addictively high with illusions that things will get better as long as they fast and pray.

These can clearly be seen in the recent viral Video of Wealthy, self acclaimed man of God in Nigeria (Bishop Oyedepo) assaulting young female who is unyielding and kneeling before him in front of his congregation as they cheer him for his actions.

With all these religious intolerance going on in Nigeria wars are fought, lives are lost and the little infrastructures we have are destroyed. There is a notable saying in Nigeria that says "Suffering and Smiling" which means Nigerians are happy people though we face hard times in our country we still get to smile. Let us not forget that the saddest people have the best smile because they try to cover up their sadness so smiling doesn't make you a happy person. Let us not boast with smiles, because other countries with little natural resources like Nigeria have more than smiles to brag about. If only Nigerians will change their mentality of suffering and smiling which makes us laid back and accept our fate as it is and bother less to make changes or even fight for what is right.

My observation form the ongoing problems Nigeria has been facing can be traced down to religion. Be it Muslims, Christians or any other religion in Nigeria. Religion itself is very confusing with more than 20 documented religions existing in the world and all battling for supremacy of their messiahs. It is this confusion that the religious leaders capitalize upon to sedate their followers, oppress and extort them of their meager salary and hold them hostage with promises from above (Heaven) and hopes for miracles.

Religion is seriously turning into social gatherings, house of senate and life future securing areas where the unmarried go to seek for marriage, the jobless go for job seeking instead of filling out applications, actions that should be taken against our corrupt leaders are tabled in the church in prayers. Students come to pray for success in exams instead of studying, the weirdest thing I have seen in Nigeria is the pastors blessing the pen the students will use in writing exams and asking the Holy Spirit to take control in the exam hall. Nigerians forget that faith without works is dead, little or no input of energy leads to less or no force output and "he who do not know that he doesn't know it will never know it expect you try to know it".

The only way out of this bondage of fanaticism, religious bigotry and too much uncontrolled religiosity is education and empowering Nigerians. But unfortunately many Nigerians prefer to be instructed than educated, oppressed than empowered and always blame spiritual influence on any predicament they face which leads to an average Nigerians paranoia.

There are many things that require our physical actions to change positively but instead we Nigerians hide in our rooms, churches, night vigil, religious conventions etc. pretending to be praying for a solution. We do not need any rocket science to turn the bad situation around for better but our collective physical efforts to get in tune with our community, what is going on around us and know our rights.

Nigerians only believe in prayers without any physical action whatsoever, which is the result of the stagnant growth our country is facing today. We spend most of our time praying for things that need our efforts and actions (Example: please God touch the heart of our leaders, please God make Nigeria a better place, please God touch the heart of our corrupt police men, Fire of God burn our corrupt leaders, the list goes on). Leaving our corrupt leaders unchallenged and grant them freedom to run the country down because the followers are not concerned with the politics of the country rather waiting for an Act of God to turn Nigeria to a beautiful utopia. Why can't we call a spade, a spade and stop letting sleeping dogs lie? With all sincerity, religious sentiments put aside of which Nigerians are sentimentally dogmatic which makes them conceal the truth because the subject is from their constituency (religion or tribe).

If Martin Luther King didn't fight as hard as he did to make a change, only spent his time in the church and preferred to be instructed by most uneducated religious leaders we have in Nigeria who are money minded, he wouldn't have had a "Dream". If Nelson Mandela prayed once and asked the Holy Spirit to stop apartheid, and didn't sweat, bleed and go to jail for it what would have been the fate of South Africa? If Obama decided to be a junior pastor whose duty is to carry the senior pastor's bible around and preach false messages of change only to enrich his pocket than working hard to make his famous and Victorious Change Speech, I guess a USA black president would have been a Greek myth.

If only the Nigerian youths will reject our countries apathy towards ongoing crisis and be the voice of the nation, if every Nigerian will stand upright and challenge what is wrong, things would be a little better. A revolution doesn't have to be bloody to be a revolution. If we have unity amongst us, empower the young generation, educate and not destroy, work towards bringing positive change to be able to revolve around Nigeria's current political and economic situation, that is what I call a "Revolution". Change is all we have, education is the foundation to build an economy and "In God We Trust".

http://saharareporters.com/article/religion-nigerias-opium-and-woes

May Allah grant us more of Fashola and less Retardeen in Nigeria , Amin. It's called proactivity. I still don't understand why state of emergency hasn't been called in those states, some PDP loyalty igbemaalu.

Welcome development if the story is true. Thiery still gat it.

One of the advantages of free education of the old western region. Props to Chief Obafemi Awolowo. Once again, it's nothing about religion or ethnicity, it's illiteracy.

And BTW, what do you commentators gain by verbally abusing/cursing other commentators that share contrary view to your view. What' s the point when you cannot even see the person? Why the unnecessary emotional outburst? What's the Internet ego about? Channel your anger towards forming a formidable group that will demonstrate to protest the maladministration going on in the country, this is the only way to force change. y'all are the victim of the Government and yet you are victimizing yourselves. Who among you chose his ethnicity or religion when coming to the world? Is it new that the Sultanate is a political appointment? since when did he become the Islam religion spokesperson? Can anybody even say authoritatively that the sultan even observe his 5 daily prayers - one of the etiquettes of a Muslim. Does Islam even permit the hero worshipping of the sultan as is practised in the North? Does Islam permit the impoverishment of the people while the leader is stupidly rich as the case of the sultan and his people? There are only bad and good people, it a'int nothing about religion or ethnicity.

I think I have been underestimating the population of the educated illiterate in my beloved country. Some of the comments on this forum is outstandingly unbelievable. If the so-called Nigerian elites continue to think as depicted by their comments on issues, then Nigeria is hopeless. EVERY issue is commented on based on ethnic and religious sentiment. Are we really this stupid?

[quote author=*Wilywily link=topic=832362.msg9837011#msg9837011 date=1324901147]May the god(Allah) Moslem's worship eat my Faeces[/quote]And this is the best you can display your education? How are you any different from the uneducated boko haram militants? Think before you type my friend. This is a flat out dumb statement.

Fellow nigerians, see beyond your religious and ethnic sentiment and comment on issues objectively. Our real enemies are these political cabals determined to perpetually suck on our collective wealth. Until Nigerians muster courage to challenge these bad eggs, I'm afraid the incessant loss of innocent lives will continue. And to those of you that has dubbed this a religious war, this is exactly the game plan of BH's sponsors - to turn us against ourselves while they continue stealing our collective wealth. These has nothing to do with religion, pls broaden your knowledge and seek to know about other religions before making unguarded statements. In the Islamic faith, killing an innocent soul is likened to killing the entire human race and saving a single soul is likened to saving the entire human race, how do you think the same religion encourages violence? How long have you been co-existing with Muslims in the southern Nigeria? have you ever been bombed? When did these pointless bombing start? Where was BH during the previous administrations? Has anything changed In the Islamic faith that has now incorporated killing innocent civilians? This is just a case of political gladiators hiding under the disguise of religion to perpetrate their selfish agenda. My candid opinion is that if the government have been responsible enough to understand that education is vital for her citizenry, perhaps these uneducated northern youths would have been prone to brainwashing that leads them to committing these heinous crimes. Our security agency are toothless, we only hear of billions of naira budgeted for them, but we all know it ends in the pockets of politicians. We can cow as long as we want but the revolution is imminent, until it happens this disappointed entity called Nigeria may continue to witness these dastard acts.

Ride on baba Fash,, please tax those religious organisation well (Churches, mosques, shrines e.t.c), they are profit making organisations, they don't do no charity work, the pastors feed fat on the money and keep brainwashing the members that if they don't pay it, there shall be no prosperity, they even slap them on top their money, lol. As a matter of fact aside from the property tax, collect like 2.5% of the 10% tithe they claim to collect on behalf of God that they use by themselves. Aside from you politicians, they are the ones scamming the gullible public. As per the 5% from rent, good move! BUT LET US SEE WHAT YOU ARE USING THE TAX FOR O.
Common guys, how can pastors have fleet of cars and private jets when church members wallow in abject poverty?

Fashola this!, Tinubu that!, blah! blah!! blah!!! at least they are doing something, whatha$#$%@ has any PDP Governor done? even the president?
Give me a break you chop-i-chop contributors on these forum.
It's obvious you are all PDP apologist ranting because there are no avenue for you to steal money as you are doing in other states.
Forget about Lagos state, you can never have it, period!

Kobojunkie:
Don't ever think you can read my mind because you first have no obvious idea of how the tax system works. Expecting 100% tax contribution from the working population? really? Even 30% is a big deal in most places.

Do you have facts? Give me figures? statistics? case studies? Just like that? you've figured i have no idea of how the tax system works?, lol

[/quote]Notice how this more than addresses even what you have in your response there? Go do your homework.
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Ok sir, Mr repertoire of knowledge!

This blind arguement simply ain't worth my precious time, goodluck with your dogmatic views bro.

Kobojunkie:
Nowhere did I insult you( you would have to pull out the exact words that do), however, I see you had no problem coming on to INSULT taxpayers by calling thinking them free loaders. You also INSULTED these tax payers by NOT EDUCATING YOURSELF FIRST on the particulars of the ISSUE they are protesting on, before taking it on yourself to join the debate.  Why you feel insulted that I called you out on it, is all you, not me.

I doubt with the level of exposure you are working with there on the cause being pursued by these people, you could ever know a valid point raised by anyone on this. So, I would really suggest that you go do your homework on this issue before you come back out posting on a topic you obviously have little very understanding of.

And the crux of the issue is majority of the comm enters do not know what taxes are and why government really OWES you when you pay your taxes. I guess to most of you, it is sort of a GLORY sacrifice of some sort. Others know and will not even forgo their tax refund checks in America, but will turn to tell Nigerians in Lagos that they deserve none of that. Pity really!

Why is my question so difficult for you to answer? i'll simply assume you don't have any fact to justify your tirades. The fact is , less than 30% of working population of Lagos are paying taxes to provide amenities for 100% of of the population. We all complain about our leaders' excessess, but take youself for example, you simply have the opportunity to respond to an issue and all you do is go on aggresive 'opinion imposition' rampage, responding to all contributors individually. You assumed every contributor with a divergent view isn't educated enough on the subject, whatever you know is the right view on issues. What happened to mutual respect? at least you are in yankee, you have a benchmark to compare the uncivility in the naija society to. There isn't any trophy for the loudest contributor on Nairaland, just saying.

@Ajanlekoko &  @Kobojunkie
Must you guys verbally abuse or bully any other contributor with a divergent opinion about issues?, isn't that uncivil and immature?
Bring up valid points to back your arguement. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF LAGOSIANS PAY TAXES? I see you guys commend Fashola on this same forum that he did this, he did that!, do you think he prints money in his office? Some of you guys woudn't even mind requesting food stamps from the Government. As much as i agree with you that there are maladministration going on in Naija, Fashola remains the only Governor that has an idea of what he's doing, even though i rate him only 40%. That OIL that we so much rely on will be exhausted someday and we'll see how the states will survive.

Seriously guys, will you rate Akon higher than Tuface as an artiste? FYI Akon is a C-lister artiste in the US. The MoHit/Kanye is also a BS!

Nigerians with free! free!! free!!!, yet we always want to compare things to the developed countries. How many of you are paying tax aside from those working in companies that deducts it directly from their paycheck? what is the percentage of that of the total population? Na by force to live for Lekki? move to Mushin, Oshodi, Iyana Ipaja, Ajegunle e.t.c that you won't have to pay any toll fee. People want to prove class that they do not belong. All those things you compare to in the western world aren't free, we pay for them.

Awesome video, nice concept, we do not have to follow oyinbo style for everything. Correct me if i'm wrong, the music industry is the only thing that has improved in Nigeria in the last 10 years. A friend recently visited US and was amazed at the Naija hip hop CD collections in my car, i'm a loyal fan. 9ice is my favorite though.

Mr Obama should go worry about getting re-elected and stop playing to the gallery. It'll never be accepted in our culture period. Those so called gay should ponder over why it took opposite genders to concieve and produce them. Homosexuality is wordly invention, no such thing as being born gay.

TEST: Can one LASU student tell me the percentage tuition free increase?

As much as i agree that college education is not cheap, residents and the less privileged students should pay a subsidized tution fee. The Governor should also make the VC to come up with plans to upgrade to a standard commensurate with the new tuition fee charged. There should be more qualified lecturers hired, abundant computers in the computer lab, well furnished libraries (i mean with books), e.t.c. It's not all about producing graduates, it's about the quality of the graduates. BTW, we should stop this mentality that the government should be doing everything, most of us don't pay tax and we expect everything from govt, Not all Nigerians will be successful simply being a graduate, let's think outside the box, all those electronic gadgets, clothings e.t.c that are manufactured in China (for Americans et al) are not made by graduates.

But when Siasia tried implementing discipline in the super eagles, you were all making noise.

OMG, what a monumental loss, with her skills at getting settled to enable soft landing for the polilooters? Files go begin loss now for EFCC office and of course we'll start hearing no enough evidence to prosecute, blah! blah!! blah!!!
Her Northern godfathers aren't coperating with oga Jona. again. Boko Haram problem is too much headache.
But, she isn't the only incompetent public officer, what about Afiz Ringim?

Happy B'day to GEJ, but let other Nigerians have reason to celebrate too. I can understand things cannot change overnight, but you ain't just trying at all. I'm so scared of any civil war in Nigeria, the Boko Haram and other militants are having a field day while you reward the incompetent police chief Hafiz Ringim with national award, he should be fired and replaced with any competent Nigerian.

@Jason123 and @Rossikk, are you guys suggesting that those awards aren't somewhat on the high side? You agree that Afiz Ringim, Akpabio, Dangote and the other polilooters all deserve the senseless award? common guys be objective, this ain't nothing about inferiority complex. Even if you don't use any benchmark, dishing out those awards to any tom, dick and harry doesn't make any sense? You don't reward criminals with national honors.