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Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 8:52pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
It's good to know we can relate without insults again

But is the spontaneity of energy responsible for the norm (image of "God" ) or the defects? If both...then energy is more planned than spontaneous, which goes against the basic definitions of energy.

You need to consider the norm (planned) is in overwhelming majority as against the defects (spontaneous)

Biko no reply me with insults ... na beg I dey beg you o

You started the insulting na. I was calm before you started throwing jabs. And then you became annoying again. Remember you said you wanted to release your Arsenal, and then I released my Barcelona too. cheesy

The norm is not the image of God, there is no image since there is no God involved. That was a concept created by religionists and it doesn't apply where energy is involved.

The spontaneity again, for clarity is not the property of energy that makes a decision. It is the property that makes it work without external influence. Please don't mix it.

The property of energy making a decision is due to its randomness. But this randomness can result in anything. Luckily for us, we have been getting most of the good things because energy is sufficient. If energy is sufficient, you get the good ones, when it's not you get the bad ones. But energy doesn't decide which one we get by conscious authority.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:56pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Is this spontainety in energy also responsible the vast majority of human beings without the defects you mentioned earlier? Or there is no element of planning and intelligence involved?

NO, The spontaneity is the property of energy to act on its own without anybody using it, but the unconsciousness and unintelligence are responsible. You see the vast majority of normal people is due to the choices made by other normal people. There are biochemical laws that guide these processes and it depends solely on energy.

As against your point of the image of God. However, two normal parents can still give birth to a defected baby. But if the two normal humans were made in the image of God, were they not supposed to give birth to a child in the image of God?

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:33pm On Nov 09, 2017

Graycoder:
Creation is not giving what you have out. Or is that what it means to you?

Energy did not make anything in its own image, it just caused things to happen randomly. Whether it'll be conscious or not is not its problem nor its decision. It's a random process.

No intelligent thing will create this world the way it was or is. It would have been better than it was if it was created by an intelligent being.

I wish we can meet sir.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:29pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
In summary you are saying life was created by accident and coincidence with zero planning and intelligence involved in the process?

Yes, exactly. Just the mighty spontaneous, unconscious and unintelligent, eternal energy. But through a process much more deeper than what you can obviously understand and process.

But basically, in your understanding. This is it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:24pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Have you considered the power of choice of man in all these deviations? e.g incompatible parents leading to defective children?

No, I considered your stance that all humans were created in the image of a God. So incompatibility does not have a say because even the parents would have been created in God's image too. No matter the choice we make.
We would just be replicating God's image no matter the compatibility which should normally produce God's image. But that's not the case.

However, If I am to consider Energy, I would put into consideration the unconscious and unintelligent nature of energy which gives room for incompatibility and errors. and hence different kinds of human forms.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:23pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Have you considered the power of choice of man in all these deviations? e.g incompatible parents leading to defective children?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 6:55pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Akin1212 Let's solve a puzzle here;

If Man (Intelligence +Consciousness + Energy) is created in the image of God (Intelligence +Consciousness + Energy)...

Can your definition of God (Energy alone) hold any water?

Akin1212 you need to be a combination of (Intelligence, Consciousness and Energy) before you can create anything.

Am I wrong on this? If yes...how

Don't be mistaken, I am not defining God, there's nothing like that.

There's no puzzle to solve, there's only an explanation to give and understand.

If a man like you, (intelligent + whole + Conscious) was created in the image of God(Intelligent + whole + conscious).

In whose image is an imbecile_ man (unintelligent + broken + unconscious) made. God(Intelligent + whole + conscious) ?

Energy is responsible for the good and bad things of life, and it didn't do it deliberately.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 6:41pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Akin1212 let's start with things we agree on;

Energy plays an essential role in Creation...we are clear on that one.

Energy needs intellect and consciousness to create something...do you agree on this one?

Without Energy (aka Spirit as per Holybooks), "God" can do nothing...do you agree on this one? God being (Intellect +Consciousness +Energy)

Bros stop swindling yourself, I did not follow you and agree that energy plays a role in creation. Energy is responsible for everything. Energy is the Creator itself.

On the second one, energy does not need any intellect and consciousness, it is spontaneous, not conscious. Energy did not deliberately create Bermuda triangle. Maybe your imaginary creator did though. Only you know that.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 6:26pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Has any intelligent life form been created from Spontaneous energy alone? Do you have any basic example of Intelligent life forms created by Unconscious and Spontaneous energy

You and I, and that blind man that was born blind plus that dude that was born without limbs, Siamese twins, that boy in India with 10 limbs too.

What makes you different to them? Spontaneity and unintelligence of our mighty creator Energy. grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 6:09pm On Nov 09, 2017

Graycoder:
If you agree on what I have bolded in your comment above. Then with all due respect sir, there's no point in further discussions.

You agreed that energy is spontaneous? This means energy does not need anybody to use it before it creates something.

You agreed energy cannot be created or destroyed? That means energy is Eternal, it can exist forever.

You agreed energy is not conscious or unintellegent? That means it doesn't know itself as energy and cannot make decisions on what's wrong or right.

You agreed that energy can be converted from one form to another? That means no matter what form it exist, it is still energy and we have many forms of it.

So sir, in light of all your agreements above. You have ultimately agreed that spontaneous Energy is enough to create something by itself, and that this energy which cannot be created nor destroyed is eternal, and that this energy is unintelligent and not conscious and cannot as a result make decisions, and that this energy has many forms.

May I ask? Why are you then arguing and going back & forth? You already agreed to everything Akin has been saying.

Please sir where do you live? I need to give you a trophy for opening the eyes of my unintelligent friend. Thank you very much sir

He believed energy is spontaneous, yet he is crying somebody must use energy. I bet he does not know the meaning of spontaneity.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 6:07pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
"Teacher" Akin1212 who is running away? I am still here o, maybe Graycoder can resolve this our matter.

It would be nice if theist vs atheist quarrels reduce on NL

You have answered your questions yourself bros. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 5:54pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Are you referring to the parallel planes of existence that YOU HAVE CONCLUDED IS WRONG

of what benefit is my answer to you again? to convert you to a theist or what?

If you ain't gonna answer me...somebody else will definitely do that

Runaway baby, you're going nowhere.

Is giving verifiable and reasonable from the link you dropped here by yourself a conclusion? grin

I understand your plight.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 5:37pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Thanks for your patience Graycoder...can I make reference to where I think I misunderstood Akin? And perhaps you can straighten things out.

You have to answer my questions before you can say anything. I have answered yours and the whole of Nairaland can see my answer. You hav been calling Nairaland to your rescue since, now do the justice needed. We are all waiting.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 5:28pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
I know I can be annoying...I don't doubt that, just help stop the quarrel between theist and atheist by using basic examples to explain How Unconscious energy could be the "GOD " solely responsible for conscious and intelligent life.

Akin1212...this is no longer about who is right or wrong between you and me. This is for every theist and atheist to get clearer understanding

Infact...if you can do this, I would delete all my posts on this thread if you want to...

Do we have a deal?

Oga, I have answered your question above, do you want me to quote it?

Akin1212:
I did not conclude, I verified it with viable points. Do you agree that it is NON EXISTENT IN SCIENCE and you will not scream it again? I need to know that we are progressing. Please answer.
That the plain of existence and the parallel universe are not scientific and are nonexistent in real life.

The answer to your question has been bolded in your question above. And you are the perfect example of what you ask for.

If you want the meaning of spontaneity, I will explain it and put you through despite that you need a deep knowledge of science to understand I will still try best for you. You're really learning by answering your questions by yourself. Good work son.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 5:18pm On Nov 09, 2017

Graycoder:
I didn't expect you guys to drag this too long to this stage. I guess the inabilty to understand each other is really the reason. Okaicorne is not ready to learn what he does not know, he is however ready to question what he does not know, by deliberately not paying attention.

Akin, on the other hand, is not a very patient person. You don't insult someone who is not scientifically oriented when you're supposed to explain some things to him.

Well, I will watch on anyway and contribute when I need to

What will I do boss? OkaiCorne is very annoying. He has zero knowledge of Science, yet he knows so much about it. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 4:57pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Dear Akin1212, I have checked for types of energy...I need your assistance in explaining how any of these types is solely responsible without the input of anything else in creating a conscious and intelligent life form.

Let us conclude this with you as the Teacher and I as the student.

Energy is your field, please help. Any other person can help if Akin1212 does not want to.

I really to get this part thrashed out.

Here's the source if Akin1212 or any other person wants to put me through on important details I have missed out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy

I'm really glad to know that you want to learn, but which of those energy listed do you know anything about?

It's even good that you have started browsing for links again, I'm sure you will soon find the truth now.

But please, answer my questions above on where we stand now. I have been able to thrash (with viable evidence) that your claims(the parallel universe and planes of existence) are false. So the former is a fiction and the latter is religious and unreal. Are we on the same page?

I want to answer your questions once and for all, but these impediments won't let me. Let me know if we are on the same page.

I will reveal secrets about energy and teach you about all the listed energies.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 4:45pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
I thought you have concluded the parallel universe is wrong. What do you need answers for something you have concluded is wrong.

You thought me that Energy is unconscious and acts on its own.

Kindly use your logic to help myself and Nairalanders understand how spontaneous, unconscious and unintelligent energy is solely responsible for Organized, Conscious and intelligent life.

If you can back up your answer with a basic example, it would be much appreciated. Thanks

At the very least, just provide links to back up your conclusion on How Energy is solely responsible for the creation of the Universe. I want to learn more stuffs on energy and I can't find a better tutor than Akin1212

I did not conclude, I verified it with viable points. Do you agree that it is NON EXISTENT IN SCIENCE and you will not scream it again? I need to know that we are progressing. Please answer.
That the plain of existence and the parallel universe are not scientific and are nonexistent in real life. grin

The answer to your question has been bolded in your question above. And you are the perfect example of what you ask for.

If you want the meaning of spontaneity, I will explain it and put you through despite that you need a deep knowledge of science to understand I will still try best for you. You're really learning by answering your questions by yourself. Good work son.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 3:56pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
I am fully aware of the meaning of theism, I don't want to be called that ... hope it's not too difficult for you to comprehend.

Now that you have helped me remove the question you were hiding with. Kindly explain how unconscious energy is solely responsible for the creation of conscious and intelligent life.

One basic example will do. I'm waiting for your logical explanation. Thanks.

It's not a matter of what you want, nobody cares about that. It's a matter of what you are. A theist.
I have proved you to be wrong on so many grounds.

I have said it earlier, it's either you're pretending to be dumb or you're really dumb. And it's not even an insult but the truth.

You have avoided questions since Sunday because you are scared. Now you are asking for explanations on energy. When you know nothing of this energy.

Answer my questions first, and then I will come to your level to explain energy in details and how it works to you... First come. first serve. grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 2:36pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Can you conclude on Hypothesis? Everything in Science started as a Hypothesis...some with wrong conclusions which were later confirmed to be right over time.

I will rather let time be the judge...not your opinion.

Please answer the question ON HOW UNCONSCIOUS ENERGY (ALONE) CAN CREATE CONSCIOUS AND INTELLIGENT LIFE. If you do not answer this, it would be a question theists would haunt you with since you are the Energy expert.

Don't let your area of strength turn out to be your source of ridicule. Good luck with the Theists

Just to clarify I'm no theist nor atheist...I'm just a free soul with allegiance to the Eternal Creator alone...I don't wanna be camped with any school of thought.

As usual, you have gone to browse again, keep browsing through what science invented and be saying it started as a hypothesis as if the hypothesis did not help your life. A result of your dumbness again.

Someone who is not a scientist telling us how science works. Lol, you think science is your eternal creator?

And How else will I tell a pile of dumbshit like you what energy can do since you can't realize it? grin

A free soul who has a God is not a theist? Lol, please go and browse since it's your forte and search for the meaning of theism. It seem your foolhardiness extends to that department too. grin

Whether you believe in the Bible, Koran, any other book or not. Once you believe in a God. You are a theist . learn that dumbass

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Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 1:47pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
CAN YOU JUST GIVE ONE BASIC EXAMPLE OF UNCONSCIOUS ENERGY (ALONE) CREATING CONSCIOUS AND INTELLIGENT LIFE?

I am very sure you would have dropped a link if you really had the answer to this

Your insults do not carry any weight so please give a link to the bolded above

Lol, I have pictorially dismissed your parallel universe claims, now you want me to lecture you on energy again.

I would, seriously, if you understand the basics of energy and science very well. Maybe you should go and look for more links and when you can't process whatever you read, come here I will help you. But for now, I am not going to tell you what you cannot understand nor process. You will just drag me through your dumbshits again.

[i]But let me give you a hint to ease your confusion, although you are not too intelligent, but thank energy for your existence.

And let Nairaland theists keep coming, I will keep thrashing them as I have thrashed you. Every claim you brought up has been thrashed mercilessly, either by your own link or my intelligence.

Besides, you have claimed that you are not a theist, I wonder why you are associating with the people of God now. Is it to save face?[/i]

Adieu.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 1:39pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Please check this link as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_universe#Philosophy

Oh well... oh well...I've played enough with you. Got more important things to do;

PLEASE PROVE TO NAIRALAND HOW UNCONSCIOUS ENERGY CREATED CONSCIOUS AND INTELLIGENT LIFE.

I hope I get a basic answer when I come back

Lol, you keep shooting yourself in the foot. Every link you've dropped here has one way or the other showed how dumb you are. Here is the screenshot of your link.

They know fools like you will misunderstand multiverse as a parallel universe. I also know you have been thinking the multiverse is the same as a parallel universe. I already stated it that Stephen and I are on the same page when it comes to the multiverse, but on the parallel universe? No, because it doesn't exist in science.

They specifically omitted the term "parallel universe" from science and philosophy because there's nothing like that in those ideologies.

Parallel universe is fiction, it is art and not science nor philosophy. Your brain will never boot beyond its capacity, ever.

You should go and play with people with your kind of IQ. Just get the fuck_ out of here, I'm done trying to convince a dumbass

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 1:18pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
After Quoting Stephen Hawking whom you disagree with on the parallel universe theory, pack your bags and go to the wild.
Stop disgracing yourself na

On the other hand, if you still have your balls intact, go and face the theists without any answer to the basic questions I have asked in this thread.

It is obvious Science does not even support your argument . PLEASE PROVE TO NAIRALAND HOW ENERGY CAN ACT ON ITS OWN TO CREATE CONSCIOUS AND INTELLIGENT LIFE Kindly check Google for answers if any pops up.

Gracias and AuRevoir

Lol, see dumbness at its peak. I am still wondering why your IQ is this low.

I never disagreed with Stephen Hawking on the only true fact. God does not exist. I also agree with him that we have other universes, but they are not parallel to our universe. Please, I take your spirit creator beg you, let your dumb brain process this one o grin

And yes, I strongly disagree with him, and that's if he said we have "parallel universe". But again, I am sure Hawking didn't say that. He said something else but your low IQ cannot understand what the renowned scientist said.

For crying out loud parallel universe is a fiction. You need to learn, you really need to.

The link below said the Parallel universe is a hypothetical idea, an assumption, a possibility and not a fact. Is that too hard to understand?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_universe_(fiction)

Don't come and be crying here that they are insulting you because you are dumb grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 12:52pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
I am not surprised someone like you mistakes tantrum for intellect.

Do you want a Scientific Theist's work on the subject matter of the Parallel universe?

I used Stephen Hawking who is a renowned Scientific Atheist just like you will never be to prove a point on the planes of existence...

Please stop disgracing Science and Humanity with your thought process. I would have said you should live like Tarzan in the wild where your monkey mates are...but guess what? Your "intelligence" is an insult to monkeys...

Next tantrums please you are too easy to be "intelligent" and yet you admitted several times I am cunning

Take this as an advice from a friend: "Go back into the wild"

Lol chai chai... grin

Are you touched by my jabs? Eyah. Sorry my obtuse friend, I can't help it.

Why are you translating intelligence for jabs? Are you more stupid than I thought? Hmmm.

I have tried in so many ways to pass some intellect to you, but you can't process it. I have realized now that it wasn't your fault. You just cannot go beyond your capacity. Your IQ IS INCREDIBLY LOW

Stop throwing weak jabs, it's like hitting me with foam. You cannot come up with intelligent discussion, you cannot even manage smart jabs. It's really a pity.

Here are some of Stephen Hawking the great atheist quotes, digest them.

“There is a fundamental difference between religion, which is based on authority, and science, which is based on observation and reason. Science will win because it works.”

“We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe, and no one directs our fate.”

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 12:38pm On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
When your senses are attuned enough...you will understand certain things you don't know today.

In the absence of any answer to explain how;

1) Unintelligent and Unconscious energy can create something Intelligent and Conscious (unless your very existence proves this),
2) Many other basic questions I asked on this thread which theists will eventually use to haunt you.

Do have a great day believing energy can wake up on its own to create stuffs

Energy (alone) is the Alpha and Omega my arse...

Lol Chai...

[b]See someone who doesn't know pinch about energy ranting on what energy can do. You just cannot understand the concept and it has started paining you.

Gullibly, you even went and brought links of Stephen Hawking talking about other universes, the Professor does not even give a fuck_ about your eternal creator, how is his work going to prove that there is a God? I have said it that you don't have a working brain.

Graycoder was able to testify that you don't have a working brain, he had to leave you to rot in your ignorance. Do you know how long it took that man to explain how sight works to you?

You will be countering facts that you know zilch about. You are a lost sheep, I swear. Does it make you cum to say the things you don't know?

Stephen Hawking said God does not exist, now as obtuse as you are you want to use his work to prove a spirit exists. Lol, you're a he-goat, sir.

How Energy formed the world is something you and your coming generations might not understand, except if you're lucky that you will have someone more intelligent than you in your generations who will discover these things. Else, hmm it's a pity.

You don't even know what constitutes consciousness, the link between biological molecules. Just give me one reason I should keep dragging matters with a novice and an ignoramus like you?

Please, don't come back. We have had enough of your obliviousness. Good day Mr low IQ.[/b] grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:41am On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
If you are a mind reader...you can answer the question you just asked.

The last time I checked...I cannot read your mind nor that of the Eternal Creator... if you were once a Pastor like you claimed...why not ask the Eternal Creator? AN INTELLIGENT PERSON SHOULD CONSIDER MOTIVES AND ACTIONS before concluding on certain issues...but an "intelligent" person like you considers only actions

When you are ready to read Stephen Hawking's (a global leading Scientific Atheist) thoughts on the parallel universe, you can have a clue to the answer you need Mr. Energy expert...

If you disagree with the guy..that concludes you Scientists are confused .... or you are wrong...

Next set of insults please you are so predictable

You keep bringing up matters I'm done with, what the eff is wrong with you?

You cannot even tell us the non-existent creator's motives or actions on planes of existence, now you want to talk about his motives on Bermuda triangle. Can you talk about the motives of SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST?

Come off it and tell us the motives for creating Bermuda, to kill the people it has already killed, right? grin

If I was once a pastor and I asked the non-existent creator and he could say a word because he is not there, do you want me to keep fetching water in a basket? Lol, I am not like who talk to a giant spirit. Your giant spirit cannot even say simple "Hi." Yet he is ~~all~~ powerful. It's really a joke I like hearing always.

While I sip my tea, keep ranting bro. I'll keep reading, I'm done addressing your ignorance. Good day sir.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:16am On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
The dumbest thing I have heard in my entire life is how unconscious and unintelligent energy is solely responsible for conscious and intelligent life.

Energy alone cannot create anything

The Eternal Creator = (Consciousness + Intellect + Energy) is responsible for the Creation of the Universe

If what I just typed doesn't ring a bell in your head...then your intelligence is really unique.

An intelligent person never shouts he is intelligent ... ONLY EMPTY BARRELS MAKE THE LOUDEST NOISE

Now act predictably by throwing up another insult

YOU ARE SO QUACK. Reason this out, Let's assume the eternal creator is the most intelligent being, for what purpose then id he create the Bermuda triangle? It bemuses me that a so much intelligent creator couldn't realize the consequences of the Bermuda triangle before creating it. Even after creating it and it started killing its creatures, it still can't change. That's really intelligence at its most ridiculous showing. You can keep dancing with this your imaginary, intuitive and unverifiable creator while I sip my tea. It's none of my business.

On the other hand, what makes sense is that the not conscious energy was the one that formed the Bermuda triangle and it doesn't care if it kills people or not. I have told you that a billion times but you will NEVER sink in your head. I am sorry you can't understand it, it's beyond your reasoning.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:31am On Nov 09, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Kindly quote where I stated forecasting (predicting or having an idea of the future) is the same thing as knowing (being certain) of the future.

Are you looking for someone that is certain about the future before you start planning for your future?

Based on your statement which I bolded, I will leave your thread with very basic unanswered questions theists will continue asking you.

You are the boss of this playground. Bye (but if you think I'm running away...I can return for us to continue). Cheers

https://www.nairaland.com/1097054/how-atheism-evolved-jesoul-into

The above link shows how atheism played a key role in helping a theist (Christian) JeSoul to be what she is now.

Please note that I am not inviting JeSoul to add her point of view to this discussion. She is just an example of what Akin1212 might become

A double standard is characteristic of a confused person. You are just jumping from right to left without making any point. If you're caught somewhere, you jump to the opposite side. I have stopped worrying since it has become clear that you are insincere and not straightforward. Graycoder also confirmed it so I am not the only person who saw it.

I am not going to be dragging forecasting and knowing with you. I have a knack for detecting a fruitless discussion, I have so much on my table to worry about. If me proving theists wrong is what disturbs you, sorry it's paining you. It's not my fault, I just don't like it when people cry and pray to a giant non-existent being. It doesn't make sense for a thinking man to believe in what's not there. Look around you and see how the belief in God has dragged us back, it has really affected humanity negatively. If you theists cannot see it, we can. We all can't be blind. Some people must lead humanity to advancement. Scientists are doing well in that regards. The only ideology that gives humanity hope is Science.

I don't want to assume with intuition the ideology you belong to, and my information on you is not complete so logic will fail me too. It's clear you're not a Christian or a Muslim, but since you are still one of those who still believe in a God, that makes you a theist. You may have another religion, but you're a theist. That's the confusion rocking you people, nonalignment when it comes to this imaginary ghost you people serve. You can't reach a conclusion on it. Unlike atheists who have a definite stand that this imaginary ghost is not there. IT IS NOT THERE.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:42pm On Nov 08, 2017

OkaiCorne:
To have an idea of your future now means you are certain of it abi?

Thanks for using your hands to expose yourself.
Meanwhile 100% of your time has been spent trying to prove me wrong without a single basic example to explain the absence of a Conscious and intelligent Creator responsible for the Universe as we see it.

Don't shy away by using your usual tactics of injecting an unrelated topic. I showed you the pictures from Encarta dictionaries. You said forecasting means knowing the future, now do you know better?

Or do you want me to upload the definition of an idea too? Having an idea is still the same thing as having a suggestion.

I told you that people forecasting the future is different from people knowing the future. But you want to prove my logic to be wrong. I guess you failed already because logic is not used when forecasting as I stated above. I told you people may be right or wrong when forecasting because they use incorrect logic. While we both know that logic insists on correctness. In case you forgot, see it below

Akin1212:
Wait it seems you have everything mixed up together. Now I am getting to understand you.

So forecasting the future now is now logic to you again?

People forecast the future, and they fail or pass. Uncertainty, what does that tell you? Incorrect logic + intuition = always uncertain.

Please just tell me, do I need to explain everything to you? This your further maths PHD is seeming like elementary school arithmetics PHD ooo

It seems my formula always come out correct.

Since you cannot be sincere at all, please just stop coming here to disturb me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:25pm On Nov 08, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Please post encarta definition of the bolded words and get your answers...

Having an idea[/b]of what the future would be has an impact on your current decisions. DO YOU PLAN FOR YOUR FUTURE AND DOES IT AFFECT THE DECISIONS YOU TAKE IN THE PRESENT?

[b]AND FOR THE VERY LAST TIME Akin1212 GOOD NIGHT

I will gladly oblige you once more to expose you, bros. You know I like doing this.

After seeing the two definitions below, Sir OkaiCorne, tell us. Can you know(certain) if you will live tomorrow or you can forecast(suggest) that you will live? You must answer oo. Chai English is really hard oo

Forecast - To suggest what will happen
Know - To be certain of what will happen

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:20pm On Nov 08, 2017

OkaiCorne:
I thought forecasting the future through algorithms is a logical process an "intelligent" scientist should know. Do you want more sources on this subject matter?

Once and for all...Good night. No more from me today...Akin1212 carry on with your thread

You know you cannot go so quit the forming. Tell us if forecasting is the same as knowing the future.

A few minutes ago you were talking about knowing the future, now you have jumped to forecasting.

Can you define forecasting for us?

Whether they forecast through algorithms or zombies, they are still predicting it and not knowing it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:16pm On Nov 08, 2017

OkaiCorne:
I wonder if Scientists never predicted the future with algorithms to forecast accurately... Anyways, Good night and sweet ~~nightmares~~ dreams

Whatever is not in the past, present or future either;

1) Does not Exist OR
2) Abides in the realm of Eternity (Which is a higher plane of existence above TIME)

#PEACE

Forecasting the future is different from knowing the future, except if you define forecasting as knowing. I'm sure people will like to learn from you. Please tell us now.

What's not in the past, the present and can't be in the future is either dead or non-existent. Simple

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:11pm On Nov 08, 2017

OkaiCorne:
I wonder if Scientists never predicted the future with algorithms to forecast accurately... Anyways, Good night and sweet ~~nightmares~~ dreams

Wait it seems you have everything mixed up together. Now I am getting to understand you.

So forecasting the future now is now logic to you again?

People forecast the future, and they fail or pass. Uncertainty, what does that tell you? Incorrect logic + intuition = always uncertain.

Please just tell me, do I need to explain everything to you? This your further maths PHD is seeming like elementary school arithmetics PHD ooo grin

It seems my formula always come out correct.

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