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 Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 8:59pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Laughable, look at what you are resorting to again. Well, I am not even going to discuss God with you anymore. I have reached my conclusions based on our discussions. But God is not in the past, he's not in the present that we are even considering, of course, he can't be in the future. Is that what you call illogical? I think you should think again. In fact, logical reasoning which insists on correctness must be considered using the past and the present, which I have just done. Using the future you don't know anything about is what is illogical. I caught you there again. Goodbye, sir. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 8:48pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Why are you talking like this for fuck_ sake? We used floppy disk in the past, that's why we both know the name. We are using Flash drives today, that's why we know the names. But what are we going to use in the future? Do you know the names? That's not called limitation sir, it's called sufficiency. We are not in the future yet, leave it alone. Let's live today first. Flash drives are sufficient and enough for us today or are they limited for today's use? If you want to check for limitation, you consider the present and not the future. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 8:40pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Why are you always forcing an agreement? I did not agree with you on any grounds Instead, I countered your grounds, which are once again not reasonable at all. It's very simple, many years ago, floppy disk was sufficient and not limited. Today, we have DVD disks and memory cards which are better than floppy disks of the past and sufficient for now and not limited. We can't say DVD disks are limited to the future because we have not lived the future yet. This your ideology is really wonderful, bros. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 8:35pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Graycoder:Goodnight boss. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 8:27pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:See I have come to a point that I have come to understand the way you think. Are you basically saying the science of today is limited in the future? Lol, that's funny bro. Leave the future and worry about today. Let's talk about today, are the instruments of today not better than yesterday or the last 50 years? Someone would have thought we would never have something better than floppy disks, but where are they today? But you have decided to talk about the future we have not lived. Oga, when you reflect, do you reflect into the future or the past? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 8:13pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Have you married bro? You are a very cunny person. To be honest I cannot deal with you in real life. The vets said pets(dogs and cats) can see what humans can't see. Graycoder already said this even before you brought the link. He explained with radiations. He, however, told you the instruments that science has developed to see in the radiations these pets use to see. Why do you find that very hard to understand? It simply means Graycoder agrees with the Vets, but he went further to tell you the developments that have made it possible for humans to also see through these radiations. But to own one, you must order or buy it. I remember he even asked you to order for one. Please for once, be sincere with yourself. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:43pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:I am still waiting for your summary, and please also quote Graycoders explanation of electromagnetic waves. Let's see who is wrong and who is right. Everyone will see it too. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:39pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:If I tell you things in science, how can you know if I am right or wrong when you don't know about it? Life can start with a creator, it has always started that way. But you will not accept it so why bother asking. At least I am using one ideology to explain mine, what ideology will you use to explain your own concepts Besides, since you haven't thought it's time to answer my own questions, then there is no point answering yours. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:27pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:The problem I am still having with you is that you will see the truth and you will deliberately manipulate it. In all honesty, you are not a truth seeker. Graycoder and those Vets are correctly on the same page. His message is up there you can still scroll to it and read again, but digest it this time around. Graycoder admitted that dogs and cats see differently from humans because of different radiations. He even listed the radiations for you. But you don't read what people post, do you? He said, science came in by studying these animals and how they see, and scientists have been able to create instruments that sees in the same radiations as those animals. Please, what is hard in understanding this? You are really making things hard for yourself. What's wrong with your comprehension? I want to believe you are deliberately doing this to gain grounds, else it's really a big problem o |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:22pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Since you know this, why argue then? But then, there are some things that are exactly 6 but because people are looking at it from the wrong angle they see 9. Does it mean we should not put them straight? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:07pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Here we go again, so you think Veterinary doctors are scientists? Please do me a favor, just continue quoting Graycoder, I have had enough of your lack of knowledge. But know this, Vet doctors are Doctors that treat animals. They are not scientists that go to the lab for physiological, pharmacological, biochemical and anatomical research. You cannot deny how much you have learned from me. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 6:31pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Graycoder:I created this thread, for a purpose. I will not leave for him. If he is not going to answer the question raised by the thread, nor answer the questions I asked him he should leave me the way I am. That's fair enough. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 6:16pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Graycoder:I know, but how can you explain something as big as science to someone who translates what you say as opposite for his own gains? I can't even imagine this guy still asked if you can see through a dog's or cat's eyes after you explained that there are instruments meant for doing that. I don't have such patience to condone visible ignorance. If someone does not know and he doesn't know that, it's pardonable. But if someone does not know but knows that and still will not admit that he does not know, then it becomes a great sin against knowledge. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 5:31pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Graycoder:You have time bringing out facts to someone who will not accept them. Have you seen the backwardness I talked about? After you explained extensively to him that humans and other animals cannot see with the same radiations and that science has made that possible with certain instruments. He still did not understand and process it. He obviously thought since science has made instruments that make us see other radiations, it means all human beings have it automatically. His reasoning level is very very low, there's no point in helping understand things beyond his level. Just leave him. Can you imagine someone who claims to be intelligent using a pet-oriented blog to strike a point. It's a pity. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 4:41pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:And what have you demonstrated here? What exactly? At least I have demonstrated basic knowledge to you but you refused it. There is no way I am going back with you to a parallel universe and the planes of existence. I have proved it to you that the former is a fiction and the latter is based on religious beliefs. None of them has a scientific basis, so please keep them to yourself. A problem you have is you speak the things you don't know about. Do you even know that atheists have different reasons for being atheists? Do you even know or realize that not all atheists are scientifically oriented? Do you even know that some people are atheists because they hate the character called God for all his atrocities? My brother, use this brain please, use it. Not all atheists must follow Stephen Dawkins for his set of beliefs, that's why atheism is not a religion. It's just a disbelief in the God concept. Get that straight. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 4:27pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Did you not think there is also something called basic science in life? My friend, until you know, accept you don't know. Bermuda triangle that has killed millions of people, is that a creation of an intelligent mighty being to you? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 4:18pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:You cannot see the link because you cannot know what you don't know. How do you want me to help you understand? Have you seen Bermuda triangle? Is that intelligent to you? That's one feature of the unconscious energy. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 4:02pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Babacele:But you cannot give examples of the things you don't understand. I will like to discuss scientifically with someone who understands the basic laws of science. You cannot just come here and be saying a force is responsible for something, all forces have attributed names in science. Besides, a force is not responsible for anything metabolic. It will be a shame to me if I don't correct that wack knowledge. I am a trained scientist for crying out loud. Will I not correct you when you understand science upside down? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 3:55pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Graycoder:Did you read the thread from when he came in? This guy is backward. I actually taught him some lessons on energy. But he is very backward. You cannot teach someone who doesn't want to learn. His scientific knowledge is absolute zero, I agree. I will stop insulting him, I'm not the type that likes insulting people online. But he must also behave himself. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 3:41pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Yes, I can, you said you don't have complete information about this God, which means your perceived logi is illogical which means zero. So intuition + zero logic = intuition. Must it be spelled out in capitals before you can process it? Stop calling Nairaland, they have started seeing you shame already. Yes, I am glad to prove you right, and also prove you as a coward running for questions. You started insulting, and bringing my parents into this won't help you. You only drag people's parents into argument when yours are useless. Keep it up sir.  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 3:33pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Graycoder:Actually, bro, I have just been trying to help him think. Since he cannot do it all by himself. I am not sure he is oriented scientifically since he has demonstrated it here with his false scientific claims. But unfortunately, he can counter scientific logic despite not having prior knowledge of science. He thinks science is an assumed ideology and unintelligent being like him can just talk about. I am not trolling him, I am helping him. He has really derailed this thread with jargons. Thanks for noticing. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 3:09pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne: OkaiCorne:Dear All kindly critique my Logic alongside OkaiCorne and conclude... OkaiCorne:Dear OkaiCorne and all Nairalanders, let us go back to the basics of logic and Science; OkaiCorne LOGIC If at the Logical level, humans (conscious & intelligent life form) needs ENERGY to get things done therefore; At the intuitive level, An Eternal Creator (which is an immaterial spirit and I have not seen before) needs ENERGY (Universal Energy which is physical and material) to get things done (create the Earth, Other Planets and Stars that he has lost control of) AKIN1212 LOGIC If at the basic level, humans (conscious & intelligent life form) needs ENERGY to get things done therefore; At the advanced level, Energy(Which nothing can happen in its absence) plays a key role in creating the Earth, Other Planets and stars without the input of an immaterial, unintelligent life form (Eternal Creator, which nobody has seen before). Because the 5 senses (alone,in which none else exists) of a Human (which is correct according to science) cannot visualize the spirit eternal creator. This is not copying, it's the correction of your misplaced brain I have seen that you have misunderstood scientific logic, I just have to correct it. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 2:26pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:I should be asking you because you have been insinuating that all scientists will use logic to question God's existence. I really really bow for your level of understanding. So because Isaac Newton is a scientist, he should be an atheist, is that what you understand by LOGIC? I shake my head for you, sir... Dear OkaiCorne and all Nairalanders, let us go back to the basics of logic and Science; OkaiCorne LOGIC If at the Logical level, humans (conscious & intelligent life form) needs ENERGY to get things done therefore; At the intuitive level, An Eternal Creator (which is an immaterial spirit and I have not seen before) needs ENERGY (Universal Energy which is physical and material) to get things done (create the Earth, Other Planets and Stars that he has lost control of) AKIN1212 LOGIC If at the basic level, humans (conscious & intelligent life form) needs ENERGY to get things done therefore; At the advanced level, Energy(Which nothing can happen in its absence) plays a key role in creating the Earth, Other Planets and stars without the input of an immaterial, unintelligent life form (Eternal Creator, which nobody has seen before). Because the 5 senses (alone,in which none else exists) of a Human (which is correct according to science) cannot visualize the spirit eternal creator. Dear All kindly critique my Logic alongside OkaiCorne and conclude... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:50am On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:The first question you need to ask yourself before anything is that, these scientific theists you're obsessed with, did they use LOGIC to find God? Is there anywhere you saw it that a scientist used science on the concept of God and found that he exists? The full concept of science? What exactly do you want me to prove wrong, their logic on scientific works or their logic on finding God> Have you asked yourself this question? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:32am On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Dead on arrival. So you know that your answer is wrong already, that's why you have been avoiding the questions? Nice confession this is. Although, I would be compelled to say it's wrong by my intuition, given that you have been wrong on so many grounds since we started, so I won't need to think about your wrongness. But I will still give it a logical view because I am nice. Just answer the questions, I don't have time for long epistles with you anymore, you have given me reasons not discuss sensitive matters with you, you say the things you don't basing my reasons on past experience with you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:05am On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:I gave you a link that boldly stated that Albert Einstein categorically stated that he prefers to be called an agnostic or a religious unbeliever. If you feel like arguing that, carry your arguments to Wikipedia and argue there. Or didn't you read it with your own eyes? Don't come and give me more of that ignorance that has taken over you here. Kindly spare me the stress and argue with Wikipedia abeg. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:02am On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Atheists on this thread? The only ones here have been me and Frank. Why do you resort to calling others all the time the heat burns you? Are you looking for sympathy? You're looking for weak atheists you can easily overshadow? . It ain't happening son.Life is fair, isn't it? Be fair too. It's now 72 hours you are still yet to answer who created the planes of existence and why? And you want your own answers, which I have already answered to be answered again? Hell no. You have been jumping from topic to topic just avoid answering the questions. Why? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:58am On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Here we go again this early mormor, dancing and crying over a confused adult male and his non-existent eternal creator. Haven't I tried enough for you to solve your problems? A confused man is a very poor man. Who has done this to you? Do you want to prove your eternal creator is alive? Tell him to say a simple "Hello." I bet my life on that, he cannot. From the definition of logic I taught you, ILLOGICAL means not following the rules of logic. Very simple, you saw but your brain still could not process it. Do you need some sort of injection to help you process things? How can someone who does not think at all even find God? Intuition abi? Let me help you once again the only way I can because I don't have the injections to give you. What is logic? -> From the same Encarta dictionary, I once defined logic for your incapable mind, but as usual, you don't process anything at all. Logic is a system or instance of reasoning: any system of, or an instance of, reasoning and inference-> My system of reasoning is science, that is what my logic is based on, and science have 100% information that an eternal creator does not, cannot, could not have, would not, will not exist. If it's paining you, why not just commit suicide? When life presents you 99% information and you make a choice, then your choice is illogical. Process these things and spare us dancing like fools. We can't be going over the same things over and over again. Call a spade, a spade. Your eternal creator exists not. My second definition stated it all for illogical minds like you, it's just left for you to lower your ego and accept that you are illogical. Being illogical is not the end of the world. It doesn't mean you will die, don't be scared. If you don't have complete details just say you don't know. That's honesty. Frank317 has been hammering it you since we started, he said he doesn't know how the world started because he does not have complete details. You, on the other hand, is claiming you know despite your incomplete details. Go fuck_ yourself, sir, you stink of ignorance. When you don't know something just say you don't know  You are really ignorant, You know how I got to know? You failed on the parallel universe, you failed on planes of existence, you failed on 6th sense, you're failing in logic and intuition now. You keep jumping from one thing to another and I keep trashing you. Are you not tired of being trashed? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 12:24am On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Einstein was agnostic, Newton never proved there was a God with logic. Why on earth would I prove them wrong when they never proved anything about eternal creator right with logic? Seriously, I hope people are seeing how unreasonable you can be. You cannot make one sense at all. Your common sense is zero, your logic is zero, your intuition is uncertain. Why would I even be hobnobbing with an asinine like you? Suddenly you want me to prove an agnostic and someone who never used logic to prove God exists wrong. You are unreasonable to the lowest level I can ever imagine. My 100% information and logical explanation will come when you attend to these questions I have been asking you for 3 days. 1) Who created the planes of existence and for what purpose? 2) Who disrupted the earth's plane of existence and how? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 12:18am On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Why do you keep shaming yourself? Just to gain sympathy? Nobody is reading this thread, my guy, Just ease up on your showmanship. I have repeated and complained about your inefficient comprehension and lack of a good and capable brain that understand the use of English. But you have always overlooked it. Don't go about reproducing dullards with this your brain ooo. To you now, the person that has refused to use logic on a particular subject is illogical? Even when I have taught you that a wrong logic is what is illogical. You are ludicrously marvelous. How will you not even believe in an eternal creator, when understanding simple concepts is a major problem in your life. I wonder how you reason, even ants cannot make this simple mistakes. If you cannot infer more than this from my posts, I wonder which kind of brain nature has punished you with. For the sake of waking your brain up, not using logic on certain subjects doesn't mean you are illogical. When your logic is wrong is when you are illogical, are we clear? OkaiCorne:I even thought I was going to see according to the eternal creator. It seems you have taken your time to go and browse before you came back here. So you saw that science discovered dark matter that your eternal creator has no clue of? Or was it your eternal creator that created dark matter? .I am wondering how come science detected dark matter and could not detect the almighty eternal creator  . Well, maybe the almighty eternal creator is a white matter and hence, nonexistent... Lol |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 12:04am On Nov 08, 2017*. Modified: 12:28am On Nov 08, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:I have told you not to make yourself cum again, it's bad for you. I am not corroborating anything you have said. All you said was that you don't have complete information. Now read below. Does intuition make up for the incomplete information that makes LOGIC illogical? NO. If fallible intuition does not give you the information you need why go there instead of seeking more information to make your logic sound? Intuition is the first uncertainty you have, and you have to validate which part of the intuition is correct from the 50/50 chance you have to be right or wrong. But if the logic is wrong, there's nothing you can do. You cannot patch logic with intuition, they are two different things I said stop calling Einstein's name for help, you know zilch about him. If you want me to prove Newton wrong, please show me where Newton said logic cannot prove God or where he said science does not have 100% information that eternal creator does not exist. Show the links too, please. And yes, I have 100% information to show that eternal creator does not exist. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:53pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:You want to know God by not thinking about it(intuition)?. If you pick the wrong answer, are you still correct? It seems you conclude calmly and ignores the possibility of picking the wrong one when the chance is 50/50. Here's where you need logic. And when your logic is also wrong because of lack of complete information, then you're wrong totally. |
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