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Babacele:Yes to the bolded. The Energy can bring all these. That is why it not intelligent. It doesn't even know itself as energy. I have repeated this over and over again. Must there be a creator? A creator must know that it is creating something but this energy doesn't. It is the sole of existence. It powers everything, everything in the universe and multiverse by expansion. Nobody is controlling it and that's why we see some bad manifestations most times. "HIS" laws, how exactly did you know he is him? Before we move on, you haven't answered my question. I'll repost it here. Have you seen anybody who died of bacteria or viral infection before? Answer this question and I will provide a subtle answer. |
frank317:I think he just confessed to us that he knows nothing of this creator. He has been avoiding questions for over 24 hours. If this creator is beyond his reasoning then how can he know him? |
OkaiCorne:Frank 3 Gbosas for you for that question. CAN YOU SEE HIS SHALLOW ANSWER? LET ME BREAK HIS HEART NOW, WHEN YOU WERE BORN, THERE WERE TRUTHS AND THERE WERE LIES. YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS TRUE AND WHAT WAS A LIE. SO, SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE ANALOGY AS YOU HAVE BEEN BRINGING UNRELATED ANALOGIES, YOU CANNOT KNOW WHAT IS TRUE IF IT IS BEYOND YOUR REASONING. IT MAY BE TRUE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW. WHICH MEANS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. NO WONDER. I KNEW IT ALL ALONG |
OkaiCorne:Let intelligent people come and contribute and accept when they are wrong. Your analogy does not concern me. What's my business with the circle and all that? I am asking who created the planes of existence, it doesn't matter who the source is, but your imminent failure will not let you answer these questions. You kept giving analogies of the creator, that's out of point. The tantrums you started throwing? Are you growing tired already? |
OkaiCorne:OH, IS IT MY FAULT THAT YOUR ANALOGIES ARE UNRELATED TO THE ISSUE IN FOCUS? THIS IS SO RIDICULOUS |
OkaiCorne:At the end of all these jargons, NO ONE GIVES WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE. I UNDERSTAND YOU PLIGHT |
frank317:You don't know this guy is confused? He will never answer you. He has failed to answer my simple question since yesterday. I am sure he will not answer the starting of the creator question, I am 100% sure of that. |
OkaiCorne:I can sense your fear and tactics. You don't want them to expose the eternal creator the more. Yes, you have exposed your imaginary creator enough, let others do theirs too. I am a lost cause yet you are concerned. Just quit it already, people are sending me pms on your matter. It's really funny. |
Babacele:You don't get the point of this discussion, do you? I personally think you are handing me the victory but you're not aware of it. I have explained this your "Force" to your apprentice Okaicorne as energy. It is what controls everything in the universe and the multiverse. But it is not self-aware and does not know itself is called energy. It does not require itself to be worshipped and praised, it doesn't give a Bleep. You need to go back to pages 2, 3 and 4 to see the lectures. It is the only logical explanation and not a creator. The energy or force obviously does not care about the microorganisms, neither does it care about humans or anybody. If you think we humans have this force that kills microorganisms, then why do people still die of infections from microorganisms? Let me give you an instance, have you seen anybody who died of bacteria or viral infection before? Answer this question and I will provide a subtle answer. |
OkaiCorne:You cannot substitute pacify for crying. The dude already laid his case to rest why didn't you answer the question instead of jump around? I am sure Nairalanders are tired of your shying away. You don't even have shame, you dare ask questions when you are yet to answer the simple ones put to you since yesterday. OkaiCorne:You should sit and watch so you can be schooled over again like I did on Energy. |
Babacele:Lol, you really should ask your compatriot. I am not a novice when it comes to science, in fact, I studied Biochemistry. And sir, talking, breathing does not kill any microorganism. My involuntary actions that kill bacteria in my stomach and my mouth are still being controlled by my brain, such as digestion and the production of saliva. My brain is part of me and I am responsible for that action. But is it a problem for people who believe in an eternal creator not to have a sound logic? How does the killing of bacteria or microorganism relate to who created the planes of existence? What do you think these microorganisms will think if they know that the eternal creator created things in such a way that human beings kill them for their own good? You think if they know that there is someone called the creator and he did all these, they will be happy with the creator? Logic can't work with God, take it anywhere, that's the main reason for his non-existence. Why is it very hard for you people to understand this simple concept? |
Babacele:Of course, you can. I am solely responsible for everything I do. |
Babacele:Exactly, the humans are responsible for the tragedies of the ants. But who created the humans themselves? Did the creator know that it will get to a point that the humans he created will kill the ants with tractor all because they want to eat? So, if the ants didn't have knowledge that there is a creator, they will blame humans. But if they know that a God exists, don't you think they will ask the God why he has allowed humans to treat them that way? It's a simple logic and it all goes back to God. Evil is an act that is profoundly wrong and morally bad, malicious, devilish and very unpleasant. Good is an act that is the opposite of evil. |
OkaiCorne:It's a shame you have resorted to this. Crying for help from others. It's a shame. You don't have to incite others, let them do their thing. |
OkaiCorne:Stop going emotional and do what's needed. If direct answers to my questions would make you appear wrong as you have wrongly accused me of trying to do then you're not going to be right in any way. You are not answering because you think I am here to prove you wrong. If your answers will make me prove you wrong then you should be glad that you're going to see the truth. None of your claimed wrong clues explains why God created the planes of existence and what humans did to disrupt it. Arguing for the existence of a source is different from arguing for what the source did. But I have been taking it easy because I don't even have the strength to type epistles and if you're not answering the questions I asked, I see no point why I should continue. Go and bring babacele, maybe he would sum up his courage and provide direct answers to my questions. |
OkaiCorne:There is no common sense in jargons, you're even declaring common sense for yourself? Little wonder You have the obligations to prove to us that your eternal creator did create the planes of existence. You were feeling orgasmic when your wrong intuition told you I didn't know about the planes of existence and was ready to answer any question. But when you got a clue that I knew about it, you found it impossible to answer the questions I asked concerning them. Is that common sense? No, it is called jargons |
OkaiCorne:These explain why the planes of existence were created? ![]() I guess sensible humans already know you by now. How does the3 source of an orphan explain who created the planes of existence? How do a starting point and all other of you Jargons explains why the plane of existence of earth has been disturbed? You are way too clueless and I have come far enough. I'm glad you exposed yourself anyway. Goodluck with your delusions. You are a typical believer of a creator, there's no difference. Good luck, I think I'm done since it is now clear that you are clueless and confused. |
waldigit:Yes, people without tangible points always rest their cases because they have none. |
OkaiCorne:You are not even reasoning at all. You seem to know my real intentions, lol. Is that from your bank of ever wrong intuitions again? I'm not surprised. My intention of opening this thread is for people to answer by not shying away from answering my questions. Since your logic is poor, you will never understand that. What is advanced in answering who created the planes of existence and for what purpose? We all know you don't want to finally come to the conclusion that your illusion is not real. No problems, you can keep it up. But at least, be honest with yourself for once. Answer the question and I will understand it with common sense which is not common to people like you who believe in a giant spirit in the clouds. I cannot reason on your level, don't even go there, I cannot stoop so low. |
OkaiCorne:It has not occurred to you that Nairaland wants to read the answers to my questions? You have not given any clue, you have only raised unrelated issues to garner points for your ego. Answer the fucking_ questions directly and let's desist from this attack of personality. |
OkaiCorne:I admitted my mind is not mature to the jargons you have been posting to appease you to eventually answer the questions so I can expose you. But you don't want to be exposed and you have guided yourself so well. But I won't give up on exposing you. Just answer the questions. You said you were better, now you're saying otherwise. Lol, keep showing us more of these... It's typical of God who says hey, I am omnipotent but I am not omnipotent. Lol You brought up sixth sense, but your enlightenment didn't let you understand it's not accepted in science. You haven't learned just two things, you have learned a lot. You claim you know but you obviously don't. You should go and teach your further maths to lower class of atheists, I'm not one of them. Your logic is very deficient and it's filled with wrong intuitions. You didn't even know that correct intuition always agree with logic. Instead, you prefer to mix intuition with logic whether right or wrong. Whether you answer the questions or not, you have lost your defense of your eternal creator. It's a shame. |
OkaiCorne:I like how obvious it is that you are avoiding defeat. Answer the questions I raised. Or do I need to beg you? We are not going back to the beginning of the world, I already explained them to you last week. You claimed we agree on that. Or should I quote you word for word? Thanks to the no deleting feature of Nairaland. |
OkaiCorne:I guess intelligent folks reading this thread will see your shying from the questions I raised. So many of them will be wondering why you have been using cunny tactics to avoid evident questions. You don't even see the stains this has given you? Wow. Yet you think you're better than me. Lol Keep deceiving yourself brother. Just answer the questions if you're not scared. |
JMAN05:Seriously, will you be killed if you face the facts? That question is actually for you bro. A God who already knew that Job served him wholeheartedly needed to prove nothing to Satan, but you wouldn't see that because God may kill you. You wouldn't see that God needed not let someone who serves him suffer that much to prove a point. I cannot go on discussing this, it's disgusting. |
OkaiCorne:Your intuition is really ridiculous. You see what I told you about it? You seem to be wrongly intuited though and I am not surprised because I have seen you argue. What could justify it more than the bolded above? My friend, there is a large gap between atheism and agnosticism. And you are stuck on agnosticism. You have refused to prove the existence of your creator further by not answering the simple questions I raised because the aftermath of the consequences also make you doubt this creator yourself. But would you want to appear clueless? I guess no. You have never been an atheist, it goes beyond the doubt of the existence of a God. You don't have what it takes. I have seen many atheists in my life, online and offline. Some of them are just what they are because they hate the god they served. I don't hate the idea of a god existing if he truly does, but he just doesn't. And I didn't reach that conclusion based on intuition because I know I could be wrong if I used intuition, that's another thing you don't know. I reached it through science and logic, these you don't have, and these two are the best gifts in the land of the living. You have spoken against science, the sole of your existence in the world of today. I bet you can survive without the inventions that came as a result of this science. I will not advocate for science, I'll let it speak for itself. Answer the questions directly as I have answered your energy questions directly. If no, then you're lost and confused. |
OkaiCorne:Okay, for the sake of the discussion and your ego, my mind is not mature, I agree. But please answer the questions if you're not scared of the aftermath. When you questioned me about Energy, did I give you clues? Why can't you reciprocate my kind gestures? I am not an island of knowledge, that's why I am asking you questions. Why are you shy to answer them? Give me the further maths if you're not scared of messing up. |
waldigit:You're absolutely correct, I am using my sense to pave ways for myself. I don't have any life problems and if any comes up, I will also deal with it with my sense. At least, I am better than those who don't use their senses to solve their life problems but probably run to a god who doesn't ultimately help either. So, what exactly is your point? |
SirMichael1:Is that the only explanation your stupid mind came up with? |
OkaiCorne:I used logic, you don't have it. If you're not scared, why have you been avoiding the questions since yesterday? When you're close to answering, the fear sets in and you withdraw again. The time you have wasted dancing around would have been more than enough to answer these questions. Just 3 lines of questions. That's where the truth lies. I dare you to answer them |
OkaiCorne:Yes sure, the answers to these questions will spring up tangible points. I know you're scared but don't worry you don't have to accept anything I say. But people will see your ass in the open though. Who created the planes of existence and for what purpose? What caused the disruption of the planes of existence? If it was our ancestors, what exactly did they do to disrupt it? |
OkaiCorne:Yes. I particularly. I am limited to Direct and logical answers, my five senses and Science. But you, on the other hand, you are unlimited to indirect answers, your pseudoscience senses, and your beliefs. Keep it up, I am sure you reached your conclusion on "all atheists" based on intuition. |
OkaiCorne:So, you even know the ones you have answered. ![]() Now I know you are conscious of your cunningness. Well, you will have to answer it again and if you're not willing just answer the rest and skip it. Who created the planes of existence and for what purpose? What caused the disruption of the planes of existence? If it was our ancestors, what exactly did they do to disrupt it? |
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