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 Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:49pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Logic is not valid where God is concerned because according to you, he doesn't care about logic. He is unquestionable. Logic questions everything. Intuition is also based on known facts and things seen with the eyes. It happens that atheists are the only ones who have these two things you want us to balance out. These simple things of life, you theists don't understand but attributes to God is what you call simple? If the uncreated one is not a physical being then it's BS. How can you not know that? This world cannot be ruled and governed by a spirit. For example, let's assume for the sake of clarity that God exists and he is omnipresent. That means he is present at all times. have you ever come across threads on the front page where infants were raped by adults? It means God was present when it was happening, but he could not do anything, totally powerless, which means he is not omnipotent. He must have seen the adult male remove the nappy of the infant, and insert his dick destroying a helpless child, but I suppose God would have either thrown his face away or can't do anything about it. But let's say he is omnipotent and was not there, that means he is not omnipresent. But if he was there and he is powerful, but yet didn't do anything to stop it, that means he was enjoying the show which will make him Malevolent. Why do you people still worship him despite all these facts? The logic of his existence goes against him. If whatever you have doesn't agree with logic then it's invalid. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:40pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:1) God is a story without a beginning, isn't it? That's one. Or does he have a beginning? But according to your question, you don't believe there can be a story without a beginning, how come you believe in God? 2)Have you ever drawn a circle with a compass or anything before? If yes, you already know the answer to this. 3)I was born, yes not created. My life started when my parents decided to have sex and not when one God decided to mold clay. I guess you should be submitting your agreement now. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:32pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:There are none of your questions I have skipped. I have answered them all. I maintain, God did not give the raw materials for and brains for technology. Energy is solely responsible. God gave Abraham the same head shape and brain as Einstein. Why didn't he devise something technological? In fact, science just came to be in the 17th century when the Greeks inquisitive minds started freeing themselves from the shackles of religion. Why wasn't religion able to bring technological advancements? Oh, it's a bondage, not knowledge. I know, and you know. I am glad to know you have moved on from religion, it's a nice step towards great understanding but believing in a god is no better. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:09pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
ashjay001:Wrong conclusion, better be a joke. ashjay001:I am surprised you have stoop low to ridiculing, this better be a joke too. Go check dico for what fear is, and go back to the post where that dude digressed the thread. It'll be clearer. ashjay001:Firstly before I begin, let me ask a question, are you even a programmer or do you have little knowledge of programming if no, read well. If yes, still read well sir, you can learn one or two things today. Elon musk created an opinion, yeah it's allowed. But robots are not the only AI that can be created, the phone you're using is an AI. Programming languages interact with one another, it's not news. Android is Java, C and C++, but it interacts with PHP, Python, C++ C#, Javascript and a host of others. So AI interacting to form other language interactions is not something to be in awe about. But people like you who don't have an idea will say many things about it of course. I'm glad you said it only took several hours or day and not forever to crack. This means they don't still know more than we do because we still cracked them. Please follow gingerly. ashjay001:If God can just come to be yet we can't see him, how can me and you who are real not come to be? Or you have a detailed explanation of how God came to be? I believe your acceptance of a God is the inability of fathoming the deep basis of science. ashjay001:Do you know that before your eyes were designed, if some have lived who used one eye and nature changed everything? The world was dated 4 billion years ago and our race 8000 years, can you calculate the difference and imagine the things that would have lived for billions of years? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:40pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:There is no uncreated god except Energy. Which is not conscious, which did not create anything but powered things and is not a being. Energy is responsible for everything, for you to type, for you to sleep, for technology and for you to think. your imaginary god does not know technology, if not he wouldn't have created the world the way he did, Technology has changed all that. Don't come up with the excuse that he wanted humans to discover it, just don't. OkaiCorne:Lol, we are wiser than God. Because we realize that Hell is not necessary, Jesus didn't have to die to save people, Mohammed need not be possessed before he could become a slave. The world need not be destroyed by water to change things. Why destroy Sodom and Gomorrah with fire? Such a god to me is not wise, there is no wisdom in all he has done. And I repeat, God doesn't know technology because he doesn't exist Prove me wrong by pointing to one technological effort of your God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:27pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:On first things first, where did evil come from when creation was more on the good extreme? How did the evil come to be, you are skipping this crucial part of the whole thing. You just came up with evil rocked our boat as if it was created with us. Second things second, This God knew Man's choice would be disobedience if he allowed evil to rock us, yes or no? So it was predetermined. He knew whatever was going to happen, he knew our choices before we make them, but yet he allowed it. Does it mean this God is evil? Or he is just using us as pawns in his chess game? This God knew Eve would eat the fruit first and eventually give it to Adam, yet he created the Eve in question. Bro this God, if all these claims are true is evil. Why would he intervene? Yes, I can remember he intervened during the time of Noah and wiped all living creatures out. He also did during the time of Sodom and Gomorrah, and we know what happened. He is not tipping the scale anywhere, just think this, we are alone here. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:09pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
ashjay001:So are you scared to ridicule the Bible? Although I suggest you don't argue it if you're not a Christian. But God is not omnipotent, Omnipotency is the situation when you have a complete, unlimited, universal power. No claimed God has this power. gods that can't stop the raping of a toddler who is defenseless and yet they are omnipresent, seeing the incident happen live and direct. How can you say that god is omnipotent? If God has the power to stop evil won't he? No matter what religion the god is affiliated with, he/she is not omnipotent. A world a god presides over should not be like this earth, all you need to do is reason it out. Yes, some humans are afraid of AI, but I am not. I am a programmer and AI represents what we can do. Even AI doesn't know more than we do. So what's the relationship here? I have imagined a supreme intelligence and all I see is man. If a man was to create this world, it wouldn't be like what it was before this. We recreated the world to be what it is today. Even the world God created was far lower in standards than this current world. Can you imagine, God doesn't even know technology? They were just a buch of cavemen who travel on foot. Brother, there is no deity, there is no god. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:26pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Your viewpoint is quite realistic but it failed to answer the question. Your viewpoint has explained why evil is necessary in the world but it lacks the realism that characterizes our existence. Firstly, there is no proof that we go anywhere when we die, there is no proof that we don't. But according to science and what we know, the likelihood is that we don't go anywhere. We just lose all our energy and we cease to exist. There is no evidence for the existence of souls either, only if you want to tag it to the conscious mind. Secondly, your views highlighted the continuation of the balance, in this case, earth. Which means there is no day of JUDGEMENT coming for us all. which means life will continue to exist without end? Thirdly, your views failed to address how evil came to be, who created the evil? I know you believe in God and you believe God created the devil but your views didn't show that. Are you insinuating that God saw the necessity of evil and created it? God wanted evil to rock our boats? Hmmm. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:08pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
juanomowa:To make things easy and smooth, why don't you just send those books. At least I will understand them when I read them. I have told you, outside Islam and Christianity definitions of Satan can wait until the Muslims and Christians have failed. Just send the books and let's avoid writing epistles. When I read them, if I disagree then we will argue it out. I cannot just be listening and not be contributing. Whatever you want to use to explain Satan and Lucifer is according to how you serve God which I know not about, that will be to your advantage. If I read about how you found your God and disagree, then we can discuss. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 9:02pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:Ababio talks about genetics? The Ababio you wrote abi? I give up on you bro. You don't have the rights and the IQ justification to discuss Biochemistry with me. CASE CLOSED AGAIN. Please don't quote me anymore, let's end it here. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 8:47pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:What is wrong with you? You're the arrogant one here bro. Check this out... Is it all I said that you disbelieved, rejected and argued that an SS3 student knows? Then you should be ashamed because you didn't know them and that's why you have been arguing since morning. It means, if I am up to the standard of that SS3 student according to your claim, then you would be in JSS 1. Why can't you just accept you don't know what you don't know, learn it and move on? It's not going to remove one strand of hair from your body. Drop this attitude of yours and accept what you don't know. I didn't say I have written any Journal, how many have you written yourself? Don't bring enzyme matters into this issue because I am not going to drag intelligent matters with you again after this show of arrogance you displayed here today. A word of advice, what you know is what you know, what you don't you don't. And be humble to admit what you don't know. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 8:31pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:No, I have not learned anything bro. You have been trying to insult the course I studied for 4 good years in the University since morning by saying we have more in common with ruminants and indirectly calling me an ignorant for saying No to that. I have been hammering to you that we are closer to Apes than ruminants and you have been responding with annoying posts. I should be asking you if you have learned something. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 8:26pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
juanomowa:Look, I know what Satan is when it comes to Islam and Christianity. And those are the ones I have called to answer these questions. If you, however, have another view or explanations, please wait until they have failed. Trembling only means to be afraid. How can you have equal power with something and still tremble in its presence? It doesn't add up. Are you probably thinking I just became an atheist? Lol, I have dissected realistically and scientifically the probability of the existence of deities, there is not one in existence bro. Your point about the robots does not apply, would you liken yourself to a robot of God? Or would you liken Satan who erred to a robot. We all know what robots do. I as a programmer understands that concept better than you except you have read much too. I don't know the god you serve, but I will like to read your lost books to see what you got. Send them here Akinsdavid14@gmail.com |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 7:58pm On Oct 30, 2017*. Modified: 8:33pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:Why don't you have one then? For educational purposes I have helped you searched for Journals online, if you don't believe me at least you will believe online resources. This website even cited the resistance to human diseases and infection risks as the reason for not using their organs. Here is an excerpt from the website and the link. Take note of the first line. Don't come and argue again when you see where they listed that apes and monkeys are most like humans. And next time try to learn from those who know instead of arguing. An animal species meeting all of the above criteria does not exist. Nonhuman primates (apes and monkeys) are most like humans anatomically and physiologically. Further, they may possess resistance to certain human diseases. In fact, this attribute (resistance to HIV and hepatitis B virus) has led to the experimental use of baboon livers as xenografts (6). Nonetheless, the xenotransplant community seems to have abandoned hopes of using nonhuman primates as xenograft donors primarily because of infectious risks to human patients and their contacts. Some monkey viruses—for example, herpes 8—are deadly to humans in a matter of days (7). The costs of raising pathogen-free herds in large enough numbers to satisfy clinical demand are felt to be prohibitive. Finally, the ethical obstacles to using nonhuman primates as organ donors for humans are considerable (8, 9). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312205/ |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 7:45pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:Oh, you think it's easy to tape Chimps? Lol, for your good info, animals that are hard to tame are the ones kept in the zoo. I expected you to know this, but I'm disappointed you didn't. I have told you to give references for where you saw that our organs don't match, but you haven't. And since you are the kind of person who speaks and basks in saying what you don't know. CASE CLOSED! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:29pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
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| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 6:30pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:Who is telling you it is not a breakthrough, but does it mean we have more in common with them than apes? You are getting it wrong by saying what you don't know. Do us both a favour and visit a knowledgebase or a textbook. You shouldn't be posting these kinds of things in public. How do you want people who know these things to see you? Who told you that our organs don't match with apes? Do you think it is easy to catch Apes as we do pigs and cows? How many Chimpanzees have you seen in people's houses or farms? You only see these animals in the zoo because they are as wild and almost developed as humans. They have an advanced community of their own. Or have you seen someone raring Chimpanzee before? Do you know what it takes to catch one monkey at all? The economic cost of using Great Apes organs is not worth it. Just go and read about it, this argument is getting boring. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 6:09pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
And yet they have devised means of traveling against the force of gravity. Some arguments are not even worth responding to. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 6:00pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
UmarIbnShittu:God knows people will fail, and that failure means liking good things. And then he created hell as a punishment for liking good things? You have really done well. And now based on your answers, I conclude that your God is malevolent, I know you will argue he is not. If you argue he is not malevolent, then that will cancel my argument which means God does not exist. Thank you for your time. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 5:56pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
ashjay001:What's your point here? Does it neutralize the fact that the Bible said God destroyed the world with water and destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah with fire? The bible and other books were clear on God's choice to destroy people while he spared Satan until now. If those disasters you mentioned had occurred in the time of old, the time of the cavemen when science had not surfaced, they would have said God sent them. An example was when Moses was causing a revolution in Egypt, do you know they had plagues? Who did they claim was responsible? This same God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 5:51pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
juanomowa:Unfortunately, you have not answered my question. You only tried to manipulate it, but when you can't manipulate that which can't be manipulated, you'll only dance around. Let me now answer your questions and not dance. Firstly, according to what we have heard, Satan was one of the angels in heaven before he fell. 'fell' is a term used by those who have made God their favorite. I'll prefer 'before he went rogue.' And since then God and Satan have been struggling for power, while the innocent humans have been made to pay for it. Secondly, None of God's creation is a robot, we all know a robot does not have free will. According to the holy books and let me say reality to an extent, Satan and Humans have the freedom to do whatever they want. So the Scientist and robot instance does not apply here. Thirdly, God cannot be questionable and unquestionable. If he is questionable, then he is not unquestionable. If he is unquestionable then he is questionable. The suffix 'un' makes it impossible to be the two at the same time. Maybe you meant to say, some people can question him and some cannot. If you had put it that way, the whole thing wouldn't have been confusing. I can question him if he exists, you can't because you are scared. Fourthly, You said people should question with tremble? Lol, bro, seriously? How can you question someone with fear in you? You will not speak your mind. When you question, you should do it fearlessly. Fifthly, The pastors of whatever age are not my business, this is not about them. I read the Bible well before I became an atheist. In fact, the bible is responsible for my denouncement. You may say I didn't have the spirit of God to understand it, hear this, if I can't understand the Bible with my own physical mind then the validity is zero. And since we cannot understand it with our physical mind, why write it in a physical language? You see that nothing adds up? Thank you. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 5:33pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:Seriously you are not making any point here. When I mentioned the percentage of similar DNA components what do you think I was talking about? Don't you know that The DNA is an aggregation of genes? What genetic makeup are you talking about again? So because you read somewhere that they want to use pig's blood and organs on humans you then concluded that we are more in common with them than apes? Stop arguing it and go and read about it. I have told you that I am a Biochemist, stop telling me what's not in Biochemistry, please. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:40am On Oct 30, 2017 |
ashjay001:What's deep about the question is I have not gotten one single answer since all these years I have been asking, it's either people are afraid to answer, don't know the answer or don't want to admit the answer. So, God doesn't love destroying the creations of his hands> Did I see that correctly? If I saw that correctly, can you please tell me what happened in the time of Noah and in Sodom & Gomorrah. Who was responsible for the mighty claimed destructions? 2 Likes |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 11:33am On Oct 30, 2017 |
searay:Yes, it cannot be, can never be. The 1% difference between the DNA of Humans and Chimps is a great amount of DNA that cannot be matched and it will result in Failure. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 11:32am On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:More in common and similar are the same thing oga. Google can never bring up such thing Bros. Maybe you didn't understand the point they are making. Humans stand upright, other Great apes stand upright, do cows and pigs stand upright? Humans have fingers 5-digit fingers and so do Great apes, do cows and pigs have fingers? Humans are Great apes don't have horns, Cows have horns but pigs don't. Humans and Great apes have fine hair on their body, cows have fur while pig has none. I can go on an on both realistically and scientifically. It's should really be a goodbye because I can't even imagine what you're posting. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 10:31am On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:Back it up with reference. Because I don't know where you saw this one. Humans are apes, yet you say they are similar to pigs and cows. This statement is anti-knowledge. Very very wrong. Humans belong to the family Hominidae as many apes also do, pigs belong to the family Suidae and cows belong to the family Bovidae. So which and which is close to humans? Are you scientifically oriented at all? Don't commit the crime of fallacy 1 Like |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 10:06am On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:Well, we shall see about who rules the earth. But I didn't say I was the only Biochemist, I just brought it to your awareness that I am one. Monkeys are far from humans, and monkeys are different from Chimps. The difference between humans DNA and monkeys is about 4-5%. That 4% is a lot of DNA. We are talking about Chimpanzees, not monkeys, let's be clear on that. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 9:45am On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:In contrast, you are the one who needs to read. Humans and Chimps DNA are different by just 1%. Is that what you call so different? Can you define what evolving means? If it means developing gradually then you are wrong by all standards. Charles Darwin was right about Apes being our cousins based on Biochemistry and Biology. Our DNA is very similar and we are in the same Family, Hominidae according to classification. So what are you talking about? I am a certified Biochemist, you cannot tell me what I know. Do you know why the intra-organ transplants cannot be possible for now? Because people like you who believe in so many differences and ridicule other animals are still claiming that it is not what God wants. When people like me take over the world, we will evolve science the more and make the world a better place. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Aftermath Of Rapture by Akin1212(m): 9:38am On Oct 30, 2017 |
otr1:I'm done with you. Chew your incredible intelligence or shove it up your ass, it's Monday, a man got to work and set his path right. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 9:25am On Oct 30, 2017 |
deolurexy1:A baby growing in the liver? In science? Brother, but why all these lies in the name of science? These propagandas are put in place to distract human beings and keep them believing there is a miraculous god somewhere. It's not too late to wake up. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Goat In Yobe Gives Birth To 'Human-Like' Creature (Photos) by Akin1212(m): 9:24am On Oct 30, 2017 |
searay:The claimed Russian Humanzee project is reasonable because humans and chimpanzees belong to the same Family, Hominidae. Goats belong to the family Bovidae. So, it can never be possible. |
! U came to be, because u came to be? The earth appeared from nowhere n started rotating around d sun? In a calculable, regular n distinct manner
. Let this case lie, I guess we have both learnt one or two things
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