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Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:00am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
What shall it profit a man with a closed mindset to open a thread and ask questions on a matter he has concluded on in his mind?

If you are not willing to learn anything outside your comfort zone...why all this stress?

And is this the answer to the questions below?

Who created the planes of existence and for what purpose?

What caused the disruption of the planes of existence?

If it was our ancestors, what exactly did they do to disrupt it?

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:56am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
But you haven't made any sense of my previous replies...what difference would my answer on this particular question do to someone who is unwilling to see beyond science and his five senses?

Are you feeling threatened now? grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:55am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Did the Buhari example and the Council of Nicaea example make any sense to you before I continue further?

Oga, answer the questions directly. Don't bring any example. Answer the questions directly, feed me if that's how you want it to look.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:54am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
So I have to feed a grown up man with direct answers...it's fine then. Let us bet on something...all my indirect answers points to a direct answer I want you to conclude on.

But I can bet on my grave that if I give you the direct answers it is not going to change any single thing about your mindset.

I am stimulating your intuitive reasoning with all the countless analogies I've given you but...you have clearly demonstrated to us that it is possible to solve Furthermaths without knowledge of arithmetics.

We the great people of Nairaland, bow in awe of your scientifically driven wisdom.

Just answer the questions and quit typing epistles, nobody is pitying you, they are probably laughing at you now and awaits your Bleep up. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:52am On Nov 06, 2017

I will help you with the answers to these questions, and I will make it understandable to a layman like you.
Can Science give me a direct answer as to why a yawn can be contagious?

Can Science explain how endorphins are generated through laughter?

Can science explains why certain birds arrange themselves instinct-wise in a "V" formation while migrating?

But first, first come, first serve. That's logic again.

Who created the planes of existence and for what purpose?

What caused the disruption of the planes of existence?

If it was our ancestors, what exactly did they do to disrupt it?

Answer these, then we continue.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:45am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
So you wan park bus draw match like Mourinho abi?

Let's connect the dots on energy... If Energy is the HOE needed to cultivate the farm, is there not a FARMER needed to make the HOE do its work?

Can the HOE cultivate the farm on its own?

I am taking you back to the basics...so let's build up from here.

See the bolded up there, I'm sure I did not see that. I am only playing your game of connecting dots. You want a direct answer, give one yourself. But you can't give what you don't have can you? That's the logic, always true and better than intuition.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:43am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
But you sir that does not reek of ignorance...please enlighten me on how illiterates in the Amazon forest instinctively knows all the sexual styles on planet earth without watching a Porn Clip or attend Reproduction class on Biology?

I agree with you o, I am IGNORANT, but please use Science to explain the questions I asked you.

Thank you sir...the man that knows it all through SCIENCE ALONE... I await your answers sir while you consult the same google that will confuse you further.

LoL, don't be frustrated oga, you started it. You don't learn sex styles from porn or in biology. You can invent it and what you invented might be what another person is doing elsewhere. That being settled, look below.
Illiteracy is not the inability to know sex styles, it's the inability to read and write. Keep exposing that ignorance I talked about.

CONTINUE READING...

Please, how dare you tell me to answer your questions? Do you have a conscience at all? I did that on energy and since you have decide to bring out your cunny ways, let's do it your way.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:38am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Can Science give me a direct answer as to why a yawn can be contagious?

Can Science explain how endorphins are generated through laughter?

Can science explains why certain birds arrange themselves instict-wise in a "V" formation while migrating?

I have a million questions waiting for you. Shey u wan answer me scientifically ba?

In fact, I am not going to answer your questions directly until you answer mine directly.

So, since you want to play cunny as your new tactics, let's play.

I have told you everything you need about energy
I have told you about the conversions and interactions
So, since yourself confessed you've learnt a great deal from that, connect the dots with energy concerning your questions. After all, you have a PHD. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:32am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Can Science give me a direct answer as to why a yawn can be contagious?

Can Science explain how endorphins are generated through laughter?

I have a million questions waiting for you. Shey u wan answer me scientifically ba?

How dare you call someone else ignorant when you reek of it? Lmao

Well, I 'll supply direct answers to your questions, when justice is done to mine

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:28am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Does Science have the answer to everything? Be driving with KEKE NAPEP SCIENCE na...as long as you are making progress sha... that is what counts.

Just tell me how Science has demystified the Instincts of man...and knowledge acquired through Insticts...

Oga Phd, answer my nursery 2 questions, are they too heavy for your Phd mind?

Science provides answers to everything. If it is not scientific, take it away from here. Maybe you should feed it to your likes such babacele.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:24am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Were you blind to the last sentence on what I typed about the right blend of intuition and logic? Only Sages like Buhdda, Confucious and other very few men attained a close to perfect blend.

I am done teaching a Nursery 2 student FurtherMaths. Use my arithmetical analogies to stimulate your intuitive reasoning. You just confirmed earlier that you are stuck to your 5 senses alone as an atheist. I have demonstrated to you how limited your mentality is. Have an open mind.

Have a great day! When I feel like toying around with your mind...I'll be back for you since you are not ready to connect the dots.

Run run run, Buddha, Confucious, now you are coming out gradually. Are these the people you subscribe to?

A Phd student that could not answer a nursery 2 student's questions. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:23am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Read this up on what intuition (sixth sense) is about;

Intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge without proof, evidence, or conscious reasoning, or without understanding how the knowledge was acquired...continue reading with the link below from wikipedia;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition

And please go and argue with wikpedia that they are wrong and you the atheists are always right.

Do you know why I asked how you knew your parents are you parents without DNA tests or Sex clips? You knew it INTUITIVELY before LOGIC followed!!!

I have given you countless arithmetical analogies to stimulate your intuitive reasoning...but see how you are limiting your self to your 5 senses alone as an atheist smh

You see where you failed yourself? are you implying that intuition is the sixth sense? Why tell me to read up on sixth sense when you only posted links to intuition?

You should read up what sixth sense is all about here instead https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/What_is_the_sixth_sense%3F

Remember I told you it is not accepted in science? that is, it is pseudoscience.

This is getting interesting, now answer my questions, all of them.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 10:18am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Remember I said Intuition and Logic has to complement each other perfectly well before arriving at a conclusion...therefore;

INTUITION - LOGIC = DELUSION (Religious extremists fall into this category)

LOGIC - INTUITION = LIMITED KNOWLEDGE/NARROW MINDSET (Atheistic morons falls into this category)

INTUITION + LOGIC = INSIGHT (Enlightened people fall into this category)

If you do not have the right blend of logic and intuition, you will slip in between these categories.

If this is coming from you then you fall into the first category. You don't even realize that someone who believes in a God is a THEIST.

You see, I have been asking myself why a self-acclaimed enlightened person is threatened by a simple question. You will really need to stop assuming yourself as enlightened. You don't have logic at all, you are only feeding on your intuitions.

Were you not the one who just claimed I am ignorant because I don't subscribe to Stephen Dawkin's opinions? Where's the logic in that claim?

Oh well, maybe you hid it before you made the statement.

If you know the deep meaning of intuition, you will know it's not something you should subscribe to.

Now read this below. I will ask some more questions but I will still ask the underlying question in focus. We are not going to deviate from that.

To bust your bubble, answer the following

1) Can intuition be wrong?
2) Can Logic be wrong?

Let's see how enlightened you claim you are.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:58am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Since you are eager to close this case, I will unleash a few weapons in my arsenal to destroy this argument once and for all. I can see your atheistic pride on the line.

Just give me a few minutes.

Ensure that your weapons include answers to the questions in focus. That's all you have been avoiding since.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:45am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Please go and Google on which is more powerful, intuition or logic? Both are relevant, but one is a step ahead of the other in terms of intelligence.

Enter Google and search. Runaway atheist wey wan close case prematurely

LoL, did you just say I am closing the case prematurely? No, I am busy. I cannot keep going back and forth with someone who cannot answer a simple direct question. It's been over 24 hours you have been avoiding answering just one question. That's really surprising.

Intuition is nonsense, intuition is based on the chance you are right and a chance you're wrong. Tell me is that what you want or you want Logic which tells you what is and what is not?

You seem to be so intuitive, no wonder you believe so much in a creator who cannot stop evil from happening, or better still a creator who is evil itself. You are not really helping further discussions by avoiding to answer the questions put to you. So, Case Closed

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:38am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Ask Google for the meaning of 6th sense and stop displaying your ignorance in a public forum.

I cannot ask google what I know, I guess you should ask Google instead. There is no sixth sense. But I am not going to lecture you on that, help yourself. Google is at your fingertip.

In case you can't find answers on google, come back for lectures.
Meanwhile, answer the simple questions put to you or CASE CLOSED.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:35am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
There are levels of Truth that goes beyond logic and you need intuition to help you. But it seems at the busstop of logic. Get a spare tire for your bus and move on with life. Have an open mind because the science that you rely on does not have all the answers to life.

The TRUTH goes way beyond Science and Logic...Wake up!

Now you just messed up again brother. You just implied intuition is better than logic. Must you do this to yourself?

Intuition can be 100% wrong, it may be an illusion, a delusion. Logic, on the other hand, can never be wrong. If it is not logical, then throw it away. If you're not going to speak based on logic, then CASE CLOSED.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:31am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Dude, I am not defending Babacele. I am only telling you MY PERSPECTIVE of how I saw the analogy. Whether I am right or wrong, I leave TIME to decide that instead of the opinion of an ignorant atheist.

TRUTH always stands the test of time...and the opinion of men on the TRUTH does not change it in anyway.

I am using very basic examples to show you your level of intelligence and you are calling me a cunning dribbler.

The way you think really baffles me

Ignorant atheist and yet you know nothing of the planes of existence.

I believe I am an ignorant atheist because I refuse to follow Stephen Dawkins grin

That's another tactics you want to embrace? Lol

Try something better, What makes Stephen Dawkins the best atheist that all atheists must follow?

I can't help but laugh at your shows just to avoid simple questions, must you go down this lane? Just say you don't know, you really don't have to give up.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:28am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
It appears you are an ignorant atheist, you do not care about the thoughts of a world leading atheist in Stephen Dawkins?

I can't take you to a FurtherMaths class when you are still struggling with arithmetics!

If you are hell bent on staying in the arithmetics class then don't blame yourself when you are stilling struggling with Junior WAEC at 40 when your mates are through with their PhD program.

If you cannot infer the core message from the previous sentence I have bolded then you have successfully confirmed that:

1) Atheists cannot understand anything beyond their 5 senses
2) Atheists are very intelligent to the extent that they do not have inference and deduction skills.

I am through with teaching a Nursery 2 student with PhD topics. Enjoy repeating the class of knowledge where you are stuck.

So I am an ignorant atheist because I do not succumb to the opinions of Dawkins? Do you know how that statement makes you look? I guess you have no idea. Who told you there is a public figure in atheism? Or you think atheism is all about following the opinions of people? It's a shame I read that from you.
This path you have decided to tread will not do you any good. Just answer the questions you are asked already. Your tactics is typical of someone avoiding the truth, how dare you call yourself a truth seeker?
Just take a look at your logic, you even made a very disgusting statement. "Atheist cannot understand anything beyond their 5 sense," Please sir, do you have a sixth sense that is physical? I can name all the senses we have including the pseudoscience ones and none of them can sense your eternal creator.

I should have known we are headed for this because you ar not even scientifically oriented.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:17am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
See the Babacele analogy in this perspective, the wrong choice(s) of a few people can have negative ripple effects over the lives of millions of other people in a few years or thousands of years.

You concluded that the person who brought the tractor to the land should be held responsible, are you therefore subtly agreeing that our current predicament on earth was caused by the wrong choice of a few people in ancient times?

If you think your choices today are inconsequential, wait for a millennium to see the impact of your choices today.

For example, Christians are carrying a Bible whose books were decided by the actions of a few in the Council of Nicaea...and an ignorant Christian will beat his chest that the Bible is TOTALLY COMPLETE with all the TRUTH in the world.

I have known that you don't understand logic but I chose to continue just to see whether you'll fall in line. Logic is simple when the Logician is sincere and plain. Your friend, babacele used a logic that fell back on him. If logic is not true, that's what it does.

You have umpteen times used ants and humans as a logical comparison between humans and your eternal creator. In this case ants to humans, and humans to God. Your friend, simply because you both have same beliefs used the same thing. I will quote his words to expose your cunny skills once again.

Babacele:
hmmm when you bring your tractor to a piece of land to ridge, you destroy and disrupt some ants lives without knowing ,right? How do we explain to the ants that it isn't God that is responsible for this ' natural disasters' that are noble deeds to you poor farmers?

This is out of proportion, way out of proportion. What the basis of the argument here is the tragedies occurring to humans not to ants. Why bring up something illogical? Is this how you people were taught in your religious system? Why are you always looking for ways to dodge the main questions? Are you threatened or something? The statement is a clear fact that God cannot exist, yet you prefer to be adamant and keep talking about vague further mathematics and arithmetics. You must think you are relating to a kid whom your psychological stressing will affect. When you decide to stop repeating the same lines over and over again and start answering thought-provoking questions, we shall continue. Answer the questions directly and stop looking for a way out because there is none.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:23am On Nov 06, 2017

Babacele:
hmmm when you bring your tractor to a piece of land to ridge, you destroy and disrupt some ants lives without knowing ,right? How do we explain to the ants that it isn't God that is responsible for this ' natural disasters' that are noble deeds to you poor farmers?

The person who brought the tractor to the piece of land is responsible for destroying the ants' lives. Whether he wanted to or not, he is responsible. And that's why there cannot be a God who is not evil or does not allow evil. If there is a God, there won't be evil except and only if the same God is struggling with evil, then why call him God? Albeit there is no God anywhere.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 7:20am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
If you can use your knowledge of basic arithmetics as a tool to solve furthermaths problems then you will clearly understand my thought process.

I love it when people get to realize things for themselves after I give them clues.

If you are expecting a direct answer...especially on the Planes of Existence, the only thing that will make me do that is if you research Stephen Hawking thoughts on the possibility of a parallel universe.

I need us to have a common ground first...before we can move forward instead of arguing fruitlessly.

I admitted I learnt two things from you...but I guess I've been blabbing jargons all day that you couldn't pick any clues from me.

Look, you should have known already that this psychological stressing cannot work on me. I don't know why you cannot see that fact. If you cannot be direct with your answers then there's no point dragging this issue. The only way we can ever have a common ground is not when I accept your ideologies. You cannot force it. Your logic about solving further maths with basic maths doesn't hold water. Be direct with simple answers to my questions, if not, I guess we should forget it. It's obvious you feel threatened by those questions, hence your avoidance to answer them. I have seen how much of a big deal the question re to you, it will crumble all you believe in. It will render invalid your eternal creator and you're trying to avoid that by all means. How can you label yourself a TRUTH SEEKER when you already know what the truth is but you're avoiding it. There's no point dragging with you, my common ground is science oriented, you don't have that.

I asked you to give scientific references, you claim one Stephen Dawkins said something, hell, I care not.
My atheism is strictly based on my own views alone. I decided to be a disbeliever in the existence of any god because I reached that height by my own findings and reality. Nobody influenced me, I have told you the planes of existence is not scientific in any ramification. When you see scientific references that claim the plains of existence exist, quote them here. Before then just provide direct answers to my simple questions and stop dragging your feet here. You're slowing us down.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 12:36am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Alright then...I guess we've slugged it out enough. Do I have your permission to step out of the ring for another opponent? Or do we move on to the next round of slugging?

Or we just wave our white flags and move on?

You have not answered my questions, you keep coming indirectly. Until you do that I guess we can't o ahead. Answer my questions directly and stop giving comparisons.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 12:30am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Meanwhile...you can go ahead tormenting the theists...this atheist vs theist battle seems amusing to me though

As for me...I don't think I need to be a theist or atheist to accept very basic facts like...seeing a sun up in the sky later today.

Still, doesn't mean a creator created the sun though. I am not here to battle theists, there are other fruitful things to do than investing my time into that. I just don't enjoy seeing cluelessness. Hence, I will set straight anyone who seems to divert from reality.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 12:18am On Nov 06, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Do you really want us to have a vigil over this issue?

Anyways, I am friendly with atheists who have a better plan for humanity than religious people that cannot even help a local dog. We may not agree on everything, but as long as there is a common goal in solving Humanity's problems...I'm a supporter of that.

If my knowledge of the Eternal Creator has not helped me improve humanity in any little way possible...then I am a huge failure.

And please...I am not insincere or cunny. I am still trying to understand how I dribbled you...or is it because I asked you basic questions?

The answers to life's complexities are in the simplest of things...that's just the way I see life. I don't know about you though.

Thanks and see you later today.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:57pm On Nov 05, 2017

OkaiCorne:
You can ignore my modified post...I saw this one very late.

Cheers

I like your indirect and insincere approach, it's cunny but not the best way to go about life. Face the truth instead since you're a truth seeker. But I must tell you, I am way too disappointed today by your avoiding and dribbling game.

See you again when you have consulted more people about the planes of existence, but you can go with this. Your eternal creator is way too clueless for creating planes of existence that can be disturbed by mere mortals. It still adds to the fact that the world was not intelligently created by this your perceived creator. Albeit your creator and the planes of existence are fictitious...... I think you are now familiar with the line.

Good and see you later.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:50pm On Nov 05, 2017

OkaiCorne:
But you haven't made sense of my previous answers and analogies, so even if I answer you on this one...it's gonna change nothing.

I can bet by balls on that one.

I understand... I like the way it ended.
Good night.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:47pm On Nov 05, 2017

OkaiCorne:
I've been answering your questions with basic answers, but it appears you have a fixed mind already, whatever I will tell you on the plane of existence won't make sense to you either.

You asked for references I gave you one...now you are shouting I shouldn't give you links. Let me know what exactly you want

Oga if you claim to be an atheist and Stephen Hawking is of no importance to you...are you even an atheist?

Just answer the questions, I'll ask again here..

Who created the planes of existence?
What did our ancestors do to alter it as you have claimed.

JUST THESE TWO QUESTIONS AND YOU HAVE BEEN DRIBBLING. NA WA O.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:39pm On Nov 05, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Do you know how to draw inferences from analogies? Do you know how to solve riddles? Don't disappoint your fellow atheists out there because they can see you are doing a great job at convincing me to be an atheist.

I gave you a link on one of the world's leading atheist - Stephen Hawkings who is still thinking of the possibility of parallel planes of existence. If you need more guidance go and research Stephen Hawkings thoughts on Parallel Universe... after that, we can discuss.

Good night.

Oga, your actions are evident you are avoiding answering my questions. Don't give me links, answer the questions. You have been asking me questions and I have been answering without delaying. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS OR LET'S END IT HERE. AND OF COURSE, I'LL KNOW IT BECAME TOO HOT FOR YOU TO HANDLE. JUST ANSWER, HOW HARD IS THAT?

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:27pm On Nov 05, 2017

OkaiCorne:
I can't teach you show you how maths works if you don't understand arithmetics...before I answer your question on planes of existence...you need to understand how the basic arithmetic examples fits into the bigger furthermaths picture...

If not, you'll get stuck at your current level of reasoning.

Think carefully about your next post, I need to get some sleep ahead of a crazy Monday...

Your tactics are to delay by bringing up points where you have been dusted. I am not going to forget what I will say on the Plane of existence issue no matter how long it takes you to answer it. You have not proven anything, it's late and I can't be typing long epistles this time of the day. Your logic on all you listed there are not sound at all.
We all know that we have parents, even if they lied to us at least we have the presence of physical beings, how on earth can you compare that to your eternal creator who you claimed is a spirit? Can't you come up with logical comparisons?

For about 7 hours now, you're yet to answer my questions on planes of existence. Maybe you should just forget it if you don't have answers to my questions.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 11:07pm On Nov 05, 2017

OkaiCorne:
Before we get back to the plane of existence stuff. I want to bring you atheists attention to something:

It is not possible to solve Furthermaths without a basic knowledge of Arithmetics.

I have given you atheists countless examples at the Arithmetic level on the existence of a Creator.

1) The Orphan analogy
2) The Pyramid analogy
3) The Orchestra/Choir-master analogy
4) The Ant-Human analogy
5) The Circle theory
6) How every story must have a starting point.
7) The source of your physical existence; and countless other examples.

If everything at the arithmetic level points to the fact there is a starting point, why can't the same pattern apply at the Furthermaths level?

Or is it because what lies at the Furthermaths level is beyond what a combination of your 5 senses cannot decipher? And because it is beyond your understanding and logic therefore, it does not exist?

Unless you atheists are saying the knowledge of basic Arithmetics is irrelevant to understanding Maths and FurtherMaths.

Are atheists doomed to be stuck on a level of knowledge limited to their five senses alone? If so, I'd rather be an idol worshiper than an Atheist, because it seems to me the mind of an Atheist is as closed as a granite rock.

I recall you said ants understand human beings in their own way, but my question is...the way ants understand humans and the way a human understands itself, between the ant and the Human...who has a more accurate understanding?

We are done with all these. Tell us who created the planes of existence, what our ancestors did to halt the plane of existence of the earth.

Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Akin1212(op): 9:00pm On Nov 05, 2017

JMAN05:
Am not sure I see any of my comment the bold-faced is replying.

What doesn't add up exactly? That God cannot allow Satan to test His servant?

What was the testing for exactly? God wasn't sure Job was faithful or he cared so much about what Satan thinks and wanted to prove him wrong or he didn't see the future that Job would be faithful hence no need for the suffering or what?

God allowed his servant to suffer so he could show off to Satan. That's awesome. I thought God could see the end from the beginning. He knew Job would remain faithful, why let him suffer?

You people need to learn to see things from the reality point of view. All these pieces of evidence are proofs that God does not exist.

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