₦airaland Forum

khanye:
Sack this fool abeg

What are we hoping to achieve at the world cup?

Coaches get sacked so he can be sacked but nothing can take away the fact tha
he qualified us for 2 world cups. 2002 and 2010.

Mozambique usually play well, especially at home. Remember they almost beat us as well. They needed to qualify for the nations cup and they went all out for it. They werent trying to do us any favours. The best team topped the group unbeaten

~Sauron~:
How is it illegal?

As long as the 2 parties are happy with the do. . . . .HAPPY DAYS!!!
I won't let some scruffy looking policemen hold me down because of 20/50 Naira or whatever they collect these days.
Pay them and move on!!!

Ha. . .

My hand no dey o.

~Sauron~:
But what is so bad in bribing your way outta a tight situation in a jungle like Nigeria?

I am too lazy to start arguing with a traffic warden/hungry policemen.
Besides that, i try as much as possible not to linger on the expressway arguing for the fear of daredevil robbers and drunken motorists.
A cousin of mine got killed by a drunk commercial driver while waiting around to argue with policemen. . . . .

My comfort comes first before any other thing.

Bribing is illegal. . . Don't do it _openly

Radiant:
Is a Naira credit card also meant for half of the population living below the poverty line of $1?

That is a statement I've never believed

ode remo:
but thing are generally on the up, if you can stomach the hiccups here and there.

Very very crucial

Kobojunkie:
Roflmao!!!

But I have to say, sometimes one gets tempted and wishes one could slip some change under the table so as to get faster service, say at the doctor's office or the DMV. Roflmao!!!! I remember sitting impatiently, for over an hour, at the doctor's office waiting for the folks before me to get service. I wished I could let the Nigerian in me out, walk up to the clerk, pay her some money so she could let me see the doctor first. I imagined different ways it would probably go in my head. lol I am glad I didn't do do! lol

The Nigerian blood in you almost over powered every other reasoning

This is the second time this guy is going to win the world cup ticket for Nigeria

And what about the 30 secs for Alex's substitutions

English refs are indeed beyond all hope

How did the linesman not see Lamp's handball?

Whats wrong with these refs?

What did Athletico do there to deserve a card?

I mean Valencia

dayokanu:
@Akinalabi,

Wasnt that supposed to be a red card for Evans in the first place?

I mntioned that incident because it had a direct influence on the goal.

And remember we should have a had a penalty when Terry pulled Valencia

Was that a free kick in the first place?

EVANS SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR THAT      

Somehow, I prefer Nana to Valencia

jalether:
What chances, It's either we are not watching the same game or you just chatting sh1t

Giggs missed the biggest chance of the game.

~Sauron~:
His job is to stop Essien from driving through the midfield to join the attack.
He has man-marked Essien outta the game completely.

Essien was lively at the start but he fizzled out later

~Sauron~:
Drogba has been in Brown's back-pocket all DAY!!!

Brown has been impeccable.

Half time.

More possession by Chelsea but Utd has had the best chance so far

Same old Chelsea. . . Dirty tactics

~Sauron~:
Drogba has started dropping like a sack of TATERS.

What else do you expect from him?

OMO IBO:
and the ref is gay

Terry is a dirty rogue

The girl should make a guy her best friend as well

Beaf:
Is Development All About Personal Wealth?

No chance, and I dont think that's debatable. There is a huge difference betwen individual wealth and the
general development of a country. I dont even think that should come up for discussion.

Beaf:
Can an employer ever weep for their employees in Nigeria?

Nope. And I don't think an employee can weep when a company goes bust

Beaf:
For most of us, we believe that development is a collective thing. Everyone benefits, everyone contributes, the government must lead and empower.

The government must lead and empower for a country to develop. . . But for individual development
and wealth, it is up to the individual

Kobojunkie:
Is there really any such thing as the “RIGHT” people? There are folks around the world who started off as the “RIGHT” people but turned into MONSTERS afterwards. In fact, if you are an employer, you will know that the term “RIGHT PEOPLE” is just a phrase as when you get to where the rubber meets road, that is where you find out who has got the substance and who has not. Look around the country for examples of RIGHT people and what they have been doing so far. From Oshiomole, to Yar adua, from Bankole to many others. Don’t you think we have had ample time to learn our lessons by now?

This is the same Chime that many are still expecting to do something meaningful? See why I said this RIGHT PEOPLE idea makes no sense because we could as well say Yar adua was RIGHT PEOPLE by the judgement of the many who voted for him and even defended him over and over. Yes, many right here on Nairaland praised him as RIGHT PEOPLE.

I disagree. It works magic. I have experienced it over and over in my years here in the US. I have seen how the power of the people has worked to overturn elections decisions. Read up what happened yesterday in America please. The people made their voice heard and in a big way.
Look at the case of the ex governor of Illinois.  He started off as RIGHT PEOPLE. The man was adored by many but as soon as the scandal was opened up, people demanded from left and right that there RIGHT PEOPLE, Blagoyevich be removed. Notice how quickly that happened by the way?

Please, let us stop with this assumption that every Nigerian who votes for the other side was PAID to do so. That is not necessarily the case. Some of them did it because the man worked to, maybe beautify their village with flowers and trees and that to them is a sign that he is RIGHT PEOPLE. Others may have done it because the man provided them next to brand new taxi cabs for the 1000 or so taxi drivers from their local area, and that made him RIGHT PEOPLE to them.

My point is when you go the RIGHT PEOPLE only route, you leave it to individual interpretation, and that is what democracy is all about. However, when you have a system CONTROLLED by the people; a system that allows the people to REMOVE those who are found wanting, then you have a DEMOCRACY that works better for the people.

You've held a strong position on this issue and I respect that. . .

But you  still didn't get the "getting involved" and getting the "RIGHT" people analogy I
was trying to pass across or maybe you just decided to twist it to suit your argument.

For instance I did not assume that all Nigerians are paid to do vote. Where did you get
that from?

I made an illustration to make a point that most people are not even morally justified
to make these complaints you're talking about.

I'll leave it at that. . . Trying to discuss with you is a nightmare

AjanleKoko:
I think I fully back Kobojunkie on this one. I don't know why in Nigeria you have personalities who are worshipped, as opposed to espousing collective ideas. We are all shouting Fashola, Fashola, but that in itself shows how weak-minded people Nigerians are. Go anywhere in the developed world and see if anybody is singing the praises of any politician, yet everything works like clockwork. In places like Malaysia, nobody knows the name of the prime minister, yet the nation is well-developed. Only in twisted polities do you always hear the name of the 'leader' everywhere, in newspapers, on TV, on radio, always in your face. This self-worship is disgusting and Nigerians must discourage it. Fashola is our servant, not God.

You're missing the point. I just mentioned Fashola as an example ans it is not
about worshiping anyone. No one said he is God. Be anlytical and dont play to
the gallery

Come to think of it. What is wrong with applauding when a leader does well. I've
never been to Malaysia but I know leaders are applauded in the UK and US

chamotex:
Damn! I should go to Old Trafford more often.
The atmosphere towards the end was crazy, fans went bizzerk.
Great game worth every penny, time to head back home.
All u haterz, in your face. Lol

Its always a special occasion on European nights. Dont miss it for anything when
you get the chance

Kobojunkie:
If you have read any of my previous posts up till this one, you would understand that I am of the mind that it is the DUTY of the people to FIX the situation. I, however, do not agree with getting NEW people in there. For one, we have GOTTEN so many new people in their over the years, only for them to turn around and stab us right where it hurts. I am NOT WILLING to put my trust in anyone, not even your dear Fashola. However, I will trust more in a system that we, the people can push to have in place; a system that will ensure that all those who choose to move AGAINST the people will not only be removed from office immediately but be punished severely by the system (law). What do I mean? I mean regardless of who is voted in, if he/she is found wanting or with dirty hands, he/she will be punished to the full extent of the law and made an example for those to come later.

My point is not about just getting new people in there and it is not about
putting our trust in individuals and in no way did I say Fashola was a perfect
man. Nope. I believe when we put the "right" people in there, we will be in
a better position to pull their ears.

I personally know how well Governors like Fashola and Chime of Enugu have
listened to people immediately complaints come in because they are the
right people.

Not getting the right people in there and then come later to file complaints
I believe will not work as well as getting it right from the onset.

Imagine a local government chaiman aspirant, giving you N1,000 vote for
him and you do that even when you know he is a thief, what moral justification
do you have to call him to order when he is in office.

This is an area I guess we cannot agree on and that is fine with me.

debosky:
Fletcher has taken over from il divino.

But that was a stone wall penalty Debo

Kobojunkie:
I was at the local post office inquiring as to the where about of my package. I was told that it was probably missing. I proceeded to demand I file a complaint reporting both the clerk and the office to whomever I could. I asked for a form and was surprised the clerk had no idea what I was asking for or why.  She asked if it was the case that I wanted to see her supervisor, to which I replied “No, he is probably in on it. I want an official form I can fill out and send to the right office or head office so they can look into the practices at your center”.  I was there about 2 hours. The manager came in, first attempted to shout me down but I would not budge as I demanded either my package be given me or a form to file. Long story short, the package MAGICALLY appeared about more than 2 and half hours.  I did not get a form but it made me realize that all this time, it was not as if people had actually been filing anything as I had always thought.

The local post office? In the US or in Nigeria. I didnt really get that.

Kobojunkie:
I don’t believe what we need is a NEW BATCH OF POTENTIAL THIEVES in there. I believe what we need is a RE-ORIENTIATION OF POWER. What we need is POWER moved to the people where it belongs.

We have different opinions on this one.

I believe there is no way power can be "moved" to the people without the people actually
participating.

And when I say people should "get involved", I wasn't suggesting  they must all contest
elections. We can all actively get involved in playing a part in ensuring credible people gets
into office.

Where do they get these referees from?

I used to think only English refs were bad

HNIC:
sometimes I hate CL nights
Which match do I watch??

Just stick with Utd

The truth is that the average Nigerian doesn't really care what happens and
long as he's feeding his family.

Like Fela sang I no wan die, I wan buid house, papa dey for house

@ kobo,

I dont really believe filing complaints will solve these problems. Millions of
Nigerians have complained at the right places like the house of assemblies,
through demonstrations and so on.

Here is what I think we can do. . . although no one has ever agreed with me

We should get more involved in politics and get good people into the right
offices. We should be more active in these things.

If a good man like Fashola had not gone into politics, maybe we would have
had another charlatan in office and Fashola himself will be in his law office
complaining.

I've decided to get more involved in electing the right people