₦airaland Forum

Svoboda:
Can you really vouch in defence of Tinubus age?

Yes and no. Tinubu might be older than his current age but no where older than Atiku. Same for Atiku. Even buhari and obj ages are questionable

Eriokanmi:
Does the rating reflect the realities on ground? There was a time the IMF said Nigeria economy(financially )was in good shape. A few months later, same IMF said tinubu should address hunger and complained about the inflation and living standards of Nigerians. These ratings are based on the submitted financial data, which can grossly be manipulated.

Our macro economy is doing fine. What is left is the micro economy which will soon be fixed

Eriokanmi:
Even if Tinubu's gullible supporters are being deceived with this unrealistic news, we can't be deceived, in the face of realities on ground

Are all those rating agencies lying

Svoboda:
Everyone knew abiola right from the 70s to his death. He'd a history. We all saw his brothers and contemporaries. He attended known schools and had classmates. Conversely, no one knew Tinubu until 1991 when he burst into the political scene. No known sibling. No known schools. No school mates. No childhood friends. What do you expect Atiku to say? A leader shouldn't have such a shadowy history, should he?

Is Tinubu older than Abiola who is 89?

Svoboda:
Has Tinubu ever granted media interviews since he became president? Moreover, Atiku claiming that Tinubu is 90 isn't an insult by any means.

Tinubu has granted several including two anchored by Reuben Abati. Abiola would be 89 years today. Is Tinubu older than him ?. Do you see how foolish and ridiculous Atiku's claim is? Something some misguided fans should be doing is what the desperado is pushing

Eriokanmi:
He may not be up to 90 yet, but he's very close. The newspaper that carried the age he claimed when he returned from self exile in the 90s is still alive. His blind followers should just exhume the paper from the archive and do the maths.

So he's same age with Abiola

Svoboda:
I'm not blinded by hatred. Tinubu isn't Buhari. Atiku is also suffering his own share of personal assaults from Tinubus camp.

Has tinubu insulted obi or Atiku personally

Passionnn:
Tinubu votes in Delta with be less than Okowa votes in ,2023.
Most of the previous APC votes are now for Obi. One THIRD is doubtful for Tibubu in Delta. Only rigging will give him One THIRD here

This is not true. Tinubu votes will surely increase in delta now that okowa and pdp are in APC. Obi votes will reduce actually

Darkjudge24:
Campaign just started, so you all should just chill, Tinubu will have a good outing in Delta state, the tempo of Obi in the state has whittle down so it's going to be a walkover, I live in Warri, born and raised in the city and i know the momentum Obi's candidature poses in the buildup in the 2023 election season, but i tell you all all for free, the igbo community that brought out money for campaigns are not willing to take that risk anymore. Politics is a big business and a lot of money is needed for the campaign to be successful. Those people on the road campaigning with the posters of Tinubu are campaign hustlers been sponsored by an individual, that's how different campaign groups will emerge and whether you like it or not the message of Tinubu candidature will be preached vigorously for them to achieve their targets

You are correct. Tinubu will lose delta certainly but will poll at least 30%. He will win delta south for sure including warri north and Sw

Angelfrost:
Lol... Campaign funds have clearly been diverted.


But sha... It takes some serious balls to openly carry banners for Tinubu now.

Imagine trying such in some parts of the N0rth.

Obi has been rejected even in Kano. This campaign is not from APC

SalamRushdie:
The only places he will see encouraging vote is the SW and it will be because of tribe support .... Obi will cut his Southern vote into two , we will see if Wike can deliver rivers , but you see from North Central to North East Northing for him

Lol, he will win north central and share core north

Svoboda:
All is fair in politics.

Pdp did this to buhari in 2015, to Tinubu in 2023 and it only attracted sympathy votes. Only a foolish candidate will resort to such. Imagine buhari engaging in such. Anyway, you are blinded by crass hatred

Svoboda:
Tinubu and Paul Biya are age mates.

Atiku is becoming petty, ridiculous and unreasonable. Atiku is equally an old man. His desperation is clearly showing

Svoboda:
The battle is between Tinubu and Atiku, others are mere add ons. Tinubus welfarist programmes are just too inadequate compared to the level of deprivation that the population was subjected to with his horrible neoliberal policies. They don't even qualify to be categorised as paliative. They're all window dressings. I asked a guy on this platform to name a country who's gone this same route in subsaharan Africa. He said Botswana. He claimed Botswana was a free market economy. I had to do some research and found out that Botswana wasn't actually free market but had a mixed economy model and its government had very strong intervention programmes, even to the point of controlling commodity prices. Even at that, it also has various forms of fuel subsidies through tax relief measures for its citizens. Then Botswana's real success story lies in having very strong and independent institutions, transparent public finance models as well as efficient anti corruption models. These are clearly non existent in Tinubus Nigeria. They always talk about stabilizing macro economy, but we can only measure the success of the macro economy with the success of the micro. Does majority of the population feel more financially secure now than before?

How can a father be proud that his child has to go thru loans to pay his child's school fees in a public university. Loans are certainly not grants.

A lot of Nigerians are presently exhibiting suppressed anger towards the govt. A lot are considering Atiku as a bulwark against Tinubu.

If Tinubu palliatives aren't enough, was buhari own enough? Was Nigeria air by sirike real? The more you condemn tinubu, you condemn buhari your lord... Atiku is worse in reality...
By now, you need to understand Nigerians and how they reason. A lot of people angry against Tinubu will still vote him or will be pacified just before the polls. An average Nigerian in the south or middle belt no longer considers atiku. Obi is actually the bulwark. He actually emerged because Nigerians rejected Atiku. Remove obi and they will still look for another alternative outside Atiku....
Another major problem ADC and NDC have is spread and reach, this is one of the reasons pdp dominated for a long time. Anpp, acn and ad never penetrated or was felt in so many areas and pdp was dominant there if not the only presence. APC conquered this by merger and alliances. This is why you need powerful chieftains everywhere especially where you are weak. Ofcourse you know this but you will still deny Sha so no need but for the record, I pointed it out. The pathway to removing APC is still 2015 method and nothing else

Svoboda:
Tinubus social programmes are all fraud. To be honest, Tinubu lacks the empathy of Buhari had and a lot worse are his lackeys who exhibit naked arrogance.

Fraud? You can hate Tinubu but don't add falsehood. So the ones inherited from buhari like CCT, HUP etc are fraud too? Several governors have copied it including Otti, is it still fraud? Tinubu actually has empathy that is why he still continues with welfarist programmes and even introduced new ones like Nelfund despite his capitalist leanings. Many of his programmes are targeted at the poor and still affordable .Atiku is damn evil, elitist. He is the opposite of what buhari is. He has no concern for the poor. He himself Said he will make himself and his rich friends richer.. if you really mean well for Nigeria, why not support makinde or Kwankwaso?

Svoboda:
Tinubu just had to go. Nigerians can't wait for Jan 16 2027.

Hopefully, we will be here. I hope you know Atiku has said he will stop all social investment programmes of APC

Svoboda:
I was APC under Buhari but cannot in good conscience as much as breathe support for the current government.

I wish the polls was this month so that everything will be laid to rest

yahyus:
Not in my Kaduna.

Atiku will win kaduna followed by Tinubu but Sani will win sha

fatherjesse:
Their confidence at spewing rubbish is so annoying, n a free and fair election the Kaduna that I know, Tinubu will not get 30% of the votes

He will win kaduna freely

Svoboda:
I'm waiting for your projections, but this time around I won't be on the same page with you.

We have never been on the same page na. Besides you can make your projections

helinues:
I said same axis. They are in the same region Ogun West

Ifo is in Ogun central

Svoboda:
How many per cent votes did he promise this time?

Atiku will still win kaduna with reduced margins

Cc svoboda

victoryenergy:
Yes, urban areas are where civilised people are based, those who understands what is good for this country. many people in rural areas are less informed and ignorant, so APC capitalised on their ignorance and exploit them.

They where not exploited. In any case, you can see there's no rigging

Svoboda:
Weren't Tinubus campaign billboards destroyed by the governors people?

From overzealous aides who are seeking attention. All will be settled soon unlike Atiku that cannot manage his home

Svoboda:
The Katsina gov is in a cold war with the presidency already, having been sidelined thru Ibrahim Masari.

You clearly lack points. So Tinubu using Yari means he sidelines Dare Lawal? At least tinubu has a plethora of people in Katsina. Who does Atiku have?

victoryenergy:
Yes! but won the two major city in Nigeria, Abuja and Lagos, I was still rigged out, this time will be different.

He wasn't rigged out. He lost fairly and squarely. If you follow pre election campaigns, you will notice that he is popular in urban areas and unknown in the rural sides

Svoboda:
APC in Katsina is in disarray.

Last u checked, ADC has three factions in katsina without any reasonable leadership

Svoboda:
Obi supporting subsidy removal is blessing to Atiku. Potentially, votes would be split to a large extent between subsidy removal supporters of Tinubu and Obi, while the subsidy return support base of Atiku remains untouched.

Nigerians won't vote based on that sir. It has been decided. But wait so you know Atiku will lose and you are hoping for divisions. Why the back and forth

victoryenergy:
Being an in-law in that state and also a state that house a lot of people Igbos, this crowd is expected.

He took third last time out

ManirBK:
That's a valid observation, and honestly, it's something many people struggle with.

But let me ask you this – does the presence of hospitals mean sickness should disappear?

Of course not. Hospitals treat sickness, but they don't eliminate it entirely. In the same way, religion provides moral guidance, but it doesn't remove human free will. People still choose to do evil – regardless of how many churches or mosques are built.

The problem isn't religion itself. The problem is:

· People who claim to be religious but don't practice what they preach
· People who use religion to justify evil
· Corruption, poverty, and inequality that create conditions for crime

That said, you're right to ask: "Who have they been preaching to?"

The answer: Not enough people who actually need to hear it. Or maybe they're hearing it but choosing to ignore it.

The creation of a Christian Matters Department isn't about solving crime or banditry directly. It's about equity – ensuring that Christians in Kebbi have the same representation and access to government support as Muslims.

One step doesn't solve everything. But it's a step in the right direction.

Gov Idris is very liberal and religiously tolerant like Uba Sani of kaduna... By the way do you think he can win Malami? Can Tinubu win Kebbi

Svoboda:
Tinubu has also lost loyalists. That's politics. Even Buhari lost loyalists, but Tinubu is the worst president Nigeria has ever had.

No one has retained loyallists more than Tinubu and none has lost more than Atiku