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Obviously, that will be your own!!!!!

Martian:
lol, this is not a cheap shot because majority of christians do fall for these gimmicks. Why do Adeboye, Bonnke, Oyaks, Oyedepo, Fire man( f#cking ridiculous), Td Jakes, Creflo Dollar, the pope, archbishops, TB joshua, your pastor, Ashimolowo, osteen etc all command huge followings? Because majority of christians are ignorant buffoons.

e.g Joagbaje and the CEC gang, Frosbel( always calling other people's beliefs fairy tales when yours is just as ridiculous and you are sanctimonious douche because you don't even see that what you accuse other people of is actually in your big book of bad ideas), HISChild etc

Religious people NEED their beliefs to give their lives a meaning.  That is why they hold on to it firmly like a drowning man.  No matter how ridiculous it looks, there is this big hole in their lives which religion fills. And all other religions are false!   Have you noticed how 'miracles' in one religion are viewed with scepticism by adherents of another religion, or even a different strand of the same religion.  But if it from the same sect------  Oh!! signs and wonders are happening!!!

Martian:
According to Tpia, prayer works. The "very strange" thing in this situation is the mother of the child or like he said on another thread, it was the house itself that was at fault not the nurse and her god delusion.

They don't see the obvious contradiction: This God is suppossed to be omniscient. i.e. he knows everything about you without you even saying it. So he knows you are suffering but he refuses to do anything until you beg him or praise him to high heavens!! Does he have such a low self esteem?? . Or what kind of god would need constant praising before he does anything. Maybe he is not able!! or worse, he may even not exist!!!!!!

It just beats me hollow when these religious pray and nothing happens, and yet they still believe prayer works!!!

And Jesus failed to answer!!!!!!

This eternal life business sef!!
Wouldn't people get bored after thousands and thousands of years of singing and whatever they are supposed to be doing there! It doesn't sound like an attractive place even if it exists!!! Very booooooring!! No beer! no sex!! ( or will there be sex in heaven?)

X-Boy:
My guy harakiri, even if God does not exist and religion were fables, dont u tink it woul do more harm than gud? I mean, everybody will tink dat after dis lyfe u will no longer exist, dey will want to enjoy it to d fullest, oppress d weak, develop selfishness and thoughts like dat, dont you think our lyfe will just be one mathematical random poo?
Dis is my first encounter wit an atheist, so i want to understand your veiw

So, you mean it is justifiable then to create imaginary things like hell and heaven to scare people?

I think this holy communion thing is a vestige of a very ancient belief that you can acquire someone's powers by eating his flesh and drinking his blood.  There is archeological evidence of this in the mayian civilisation in south America.  There was even some sort of it recently during the civil war in Liberia.  So, christians subconciously think they are acqiuring some of Jesus's powers by eating his flesh!!!.  Another evidence that christianity borrowed from religions that came before it. Shame!!!!

mantraa:
^^^^^
Atheists are not "mocking" your god. They just dont believe that he exists. Do you think it right to call people fools just because they dont share your theistic belief.
You are also an atheist about the thousands of other gods that people around the world believe in. Atheists just go one god further than you.

Do you really think it is helpful to label all hindus, muslims, jews, buddhists, atheists, etc and even our own ancesters fools. open your head to the big picture and you will see that the belief you hold so dear is an irrational and barbaric concept, forced upon us by slave traders hundreds of years ago to keep us in bondage.

Now that we have broken free from the iron chains its time to break free from the mental chains also. Just think a little deeper about the many thousands of different religions and different demoninations of those religions and you will understand that they cant all be right. than think about all the billions of people on this planet who have lived good lives but are not christian. Do you think they are all going to your 'loving' gods torture chamber.

Respects

Well said. As at the last count UNESCO has counted four thousand five hundred (4500) gods currently being worshiped all over the world today. Thousands more have become extinct because they have run out of followers. Christianity and Islam have survived and are expanding because they have two things built into their practise: 1. Compulsory evangelism. and 2. Violence against those who don't agree with them, or who want to leave. Perfect combination!! It is the basis of the crusades of old, the inquisitions, and in Islam, Jihad, Fatuahs against ex-believers etc Thank godness we live in a secular country.

Women having less ribs than men? This poster must be dumb!! Did you go to school at all?

This has been well discussed on Nairaland. Here is a good one:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-369152.0.html

It is obvious!!! The Pastor has an eye on the chick!!!

mazaje:
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Did't you read that a man live for over 900 years

And grown-up men, some with university degrees will swear by it!!!

harakiri:
The thing tire me oooo! A donkey actually SPOKE (Perhaps Aramaic and i wonder what it's first words were). A man raced on thin air into the skies using Chariots "OF FIRE"! Another man lived in the belly of a fish for 3 whole days without food,water,oxygen and he wasn't chewed to pieces "on arrival" and neither did he get digested in it's belly. He just sat in one corner of the belly that had a 3-bedroom flat, watched ESPN and he was vomited after 3 days.

Fantastic stuff man! ! !

And a snake without vocal chords spoke perfect Aramaic!!    Abraham's wife got pregnant at 90   I think the miracle in this one is that Abraham could see a 90 year old woman and have an errection!!

harakiri:
Thank you so so so much for that. A lot of these theists assume that if you aren't talking about evolution, then there is NO WAY you can be an atheist. What really bugs me about this is that some of these people are normal rational thinking (and some are quite intelligent people) but when it comes to their religion, all common sense is thrown out of the window and they start ranting like over grown toddlers who need their suckers back. Utterly pathetic! ! !

It gives one an insight into a unique aspect of human behaviour.  Have you noticed that the more irrational a belief is, the more passionate the believer holds on to it?  And the more vicious they are in its defence!!  They literarily have to recite it to themselves everyday in order to keep their belief.  "I believe in one god the father almighty. Maker of heaven and earth. bla bla bla bla"  You don't do that if the idea is real.  No scientist wakes up in the morning saying "I believe in gravity, and Isaac Newton is its prophet!   I believe what goes up must come down!   It is only an idea that does not make sense that you have to do that.  Another aspect of human behaviour is the vemon they use in the defence of the belief when challenged.  It is as if you are hitting a sore point in their being, even if your point is obvious.  They may just decide to hate you, abuse you, some may injure you if you are near them.  In the extreme, they kill.  Christians did it a few centuries ago when they had secular power, muslims are doing it now.  You don't see a scientist being that vicious in the defence of his scientific idea!!!  But if the idea is a religious belief, people are ready to kill for it.

I think the obvious fundamental error religious people make is to try and pass the Genesis account as history!!  It is obviously not.  Look at it this way.  It is obviously not an eye witness account.  The account is being sold as if there was some 'guardian reporter' around jotting down notes as God was doing his thing   At best, Both Gen 1 and Gen2 are just ideas some stone age goat rearers who thought they were smart dreamt up.  Maybe they will claim to have been hearing voices or seeing things ( I guess after inhaling smoke from some burning bush! )  Whatever it was, it could not have been an eye witness account, or it will mean there were other people before adam.  And who ever wrote it did a poor job of it.  I have read analyses which detail more than one thousand errors in Genesis alone!!  The Cain wives issue is just one of them.

It is very interesting when you see christians trying to explain passages in the bible that don't make sense!!! They twist and turn and wooble and still come out more confusing. It is a specialty called apologetics!! It is like a lawyer of Phillip Morris trying to explain that cigarettes are not harmful I feel deep inside them, they know they don't make sense. More puzzles? Cain went and built a city! A city? Populated by who? Do the authors of Genesis know what a city is?

toba:
An atheist affirmed during our discussion today that 'our argument should be based on facts and logic' Alright, the theists has always being at the receiving end of all manners of questions,its only fair that the atheists reciprocate. OK here we go. what are the facts and logic behind atheism? what makes the atheists feel so strong about their beliefs? is their any scientific facts behind atheism? I'm assuming that most of u weren't born into atheism, so what prompted u into atheism? ill pause for now

Everybody was born an atheist!!!!!!   It is the indoctrination children get from their parents that turn them into religion.  Sometimes the indoctrination descends to the level of child abuse - the koranic school or madrassas, the sunday schools where stone age myths are drummed into the poor child's brain repeatedly until it becomes second nature.  Very few are brave enough after that to even challenge the basis of these myths because of the fear built into the faith system.  I am happy I have been able to break free of religion.  Another note: You don't need to understand evolution to free yourself of religion.

sexkillz:
ATHEISTS DONT BELIEVE ANYTHING!<<<<<<<<<<<<< I KNOW! BUT THEY ARE LIVING, ALIVE! WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THAT LIFE?? CAN ANYONE TELL ME?  

Does life have to have a source? OK, the source is the 'holy flying spagetti monster'

Religious people are funny!!!!!.  It is obvious that the arguement of the poster is that anything we dont understand now must be due to a creator called God    They have this mindset that uses god as a default position, so that if you cannot explain everything about anything, that gap in your knowledge must be due to god!!!  It is called 'argumentum ignorantum'  an arguement from ignorance.  Furthermore, asking someone to prove that there is no god is a hollow trick.  You cannot prove a negative!!  that is a basic law of logic.  I guess the poster cannot prove that a flying spagetti monster on planet saturn did not create the world in three days.  I challenge him to prove me wrong that the 'holy flying spagetti monster' did not create mankind!  The world is waiting  I am not holding my breath

Evil Brain:
What, are you suggesting that this attack means christans are violent? Are you trying to play the "muslim victim" card again?

Don't be reetarded abeg. This horrible attack has almost nothing in common with the typical islamic terrorist act. For one, there is very little religion involved. The guy wasn't shouting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do islam a favour and STFU.uting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do all of Islam a favour and STFU.
this attack means christans are violent? Are you trying to play the "muslim victim" card again?

Don't be reetarded abeg. This horrible attack has almost nothing in common with the typical islamic terrorist act. For one, there is very little religion involved. The guy wasn't shouting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do islam a favour and STFU.uting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do all of Islam a favour and STFU.

Classical 'True scotsman' fallacy

PAGAN 9JA:
wat do you nean by killing twins, eh

ill eat your heart if you dont shut up.

I bet his heart will be very tasty
Do you know that the very ancient custom of eating human flesh and drinking human blood was suppossed to make the cannibal to acquire the powers of the dying or recently dead person. The fresher the flesh, the more the power left in it. That is why some even cut out the heart of a living person, and chew on the beating heart!! . This is thought to be the origin of the "holy communion" ritual that christians do every sunday They however claim they are only pretending to be cannibals.

Shio!!! See both religions fighting over who is more violent!! . And quoting from your holy book to excuse or explain away what your faithfull do in the name of your religions is, putting it mildly, laughable!

When the catholic church came into Nigeria in those days, they were building schools, hospitals, etc, quitely, without fanfare, heavily subsidised institutions, to help the poor in the communities where they were established.  Nobody was giving credit to the pope .  But what have we got here?  New age GO's being given credit and praised to high heavens for any token their church does.  And many times, these are business outfits, whose charges are many times more than secular or pagan ones!!   The Topic itself says it all.  "Pastor Adeboye builds bla bla bla bla, " Its only later, that we now hear that its only a small branch of the church that is responsible. .   My local Rotary club has done better,  quitely,   We built an artificial limb factory, making artificial limbs FREE OF CHARGE to amputees.  The District Governor did not take credit.

lookmangiw:
If they say that ISLAM is a religion of war,i wont argue or disagree with them but i will want them to answer some few questions for me.
1) who was King Richard(the lion hearted) and why did he fought the crusade and who was he fighting?
2)There religion preaches that if they slap them on their right check,they should turn the left to the slapper,how many of them do that,At least i can cite and an example from Jos And kano Riot.

They fought the crusade,The first crusade is in the history as one of the bloodliest event that ever happened and yet they come here saying ISLAM is violent.Yes is ISLAM is violent against oppression,hyprocrite and against those that want to put into extinction.

Both Christianity and Islam are violent, Case closed
Another topic - Which is more violent??

In other words, there is no evidence that God exists.

PAGAN  9JA:
again, Jainis is Pagan. 

actually, a derivent of Hinduism. the Jains dont even harm d smallest of animals. in fact, the most religious of them cover their noses with masks and always look down when the walk, so as not to harm even the smallest of insects accidently.

divinereal:
All religions are not inherently violent (see[b] Janism[/b]) where pacifism to humans and non humans is the hallmark of the religion. Religions are like sports some as benign as golf while others are massively violent like boxing/wrestling. In my opinion religions with sources in the middle east  appear to be the most violent.

You are quite correct.  But maybe that is why those religions remain in the fringes, and may soon die out.  Only the violent ones are expanding.  I have also noticed that the violent religions are those that have it as part of their tenets a duty to convert others. This goes hand in hand with the belief that those who dont convert are evil and destined for hell!   This makes it easy for them to rationalise killing people with other beliefs.

This is on Discovery news. Interesting read.

http://news.discovery.com/human/atheists-best-informed-about-religion.html

Thank Goodness for the internet. I am out of reach!!  These "true believers" would would have used violence on me   The christians would have burnt me at stake, and the muslims would use suicide bombs   You can even feel the venom in their posts. Habaaaaaa!!!!!  Has anybody noticed that the more irrational the belief, the more angry the believer is when challenged  A yoruba proverb says "You don't count the fingers of a nine- finger man in his presence" He is likely to become violent!!   Counting the fingers, though correct, hits a sore point in his sensibilities.   Maybe we are too down to earth in our challenges   We may have disabled people around.   Up Yahweh!!!

Jiah011:
God is the creator of all things, including medicine. He holds ALL knowledge. Read the book of Leviticus (and throughout the bible) and it is full of medical and health related information in a wide range of topics including: diet, childbirth, infectious disease, environmental cleanliness, etc. For all the utterly silly comments before mine, some of you guys think medicine is created exclusively by man and thus is not of God, or what? Medicine does not equate to atheism or ungodliness. Some people have prayed and then were healed. Some people prayed and went to the hospital and were treated and cured. Some people prayed and went to the hospital, but they died. Death is a 100% for every human being, and healing is possible for anyone.

Many hospitals around the world have been started by missionaries and people of faith. Healing and health is a ministry if some of you don't know. Jesus spent most of his time ministering and healing, so it is important to God. I think what Pastor Adeboye did was exemplary, and YES when you give to a purpose that is close to God's heart, He will return the blessing to you. God will bless Him. Some of you who can afford it prefer to travel to India or other countries with modernized medical technology for treatment of diseases. After all Yar'Adua traveled abroad for his treatment given the poo condition of many of Nigeria's hospitals and their limited scope of treatment. The health infrastructure in Nigeria is a joke and nobody cares to do anything about it. Then someone who [size=18pt]out of his own wealth [/size] tried to make an improvement, and people still have mouth to complain. Enemies of progress to the nth degree . Typical backward village mentality. Money, jealousy, and corruption have hardened this country.

Are you really serious?  His own wealth      So all the tithes and offerings go to his pocket !!   I thought the money was for God

Will the service be free, or is it just another business venture? We have it already in religious schools and universities that are more expensive than secular private ones.

Joagbaje:
Yes of course, God is emotional . We are his reflection.

Genesis 6:6
6 The Lord was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain.

Man created God in his own image?