GoodBoi1:


So because of 2Tim 3:16-17 we should now neglect the gifts of the Spirit. As if the Spirit of the Lord did not come upon the prophets in the Old testament and they prophecies. It all makes sense now. I don't like arguments but I will not sit back and watch seeds of unbelief be sown into the hearts of believers. There were even prophets in the New testaments

Acts 21:10
Several days later a man named Agabus, who also had the gift of prophecy, arrived from Judea.
He came over, took Paul’s belt, and bound his own feet and hands with it. Then he said, “The Holy Spirit declares, ‘So shall the owner of this belt be bound by the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem and turned over to the Gentiles.’”

Like I said before God gives specific word to people concerning situations and I agree with you God's word aligns with the scriptures. What I means is that the word you receive from God does not contradict the scriptures because God is not an author of confusion. He still speaks and when He does, you will know it by the Holy Spirit. Let's not limit God.

So what if an Angel of the Lord appeared to me and told me that I will be great in 2020? Are you saying that something like this is impossible?

Yes, there was gift of prophecies in the New Testament, that's cos everything was getting wrapped up then. God will never say anything new now because that would contradict what he already said in the Bible. Whatever you hear from him today must align with the Bible or else you didn't hear it from him but from demons.

What Agabus told Paul wasn't anything new because Jesus already told his disciples that they would be handed over to be killed. The Holy Spirit only told Agabus according to the words of Jesus. Guess what? That is exactly what Jesus said the Holy Spirit would do.

John 14:26 (KJV)
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:14 KJV
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.


If anything should appear to you today and claim he's an angel of God, make sure you test to see if the light is in him. If he says 2020 is your year of greatness, tell him to show you from the word of God where God said so. If you both can't find, then such is a demon.

Isaiah 8:20 (KJV)
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

emae009:

Matthew 17:20

Read from verse 14 to 21 and pay attention to verse 21

GoodBoi1:


I never said anything about casting out demons in the names of Pastors. What I meant is that based on your walk with God you can be recognized by the kingdom of darkness just as Jesus is. Also it seems that you doubt the gift of prophecy, God's speaks through various ways. He can speak through his word also God can be SPECIFIC about situations through His servants on earth, He can speak through visions and dreams or anyway He deems fit. He is God and when He speaks then I should believe.
This is an instance of someone that doubted when "God told me" happened

2 Kings 7:1-2
Elisha replied, “Hear the word of the Lord. This is what the Lord says: About this time tomorrow, a seah[a] of the finest flour will sell for a shekel[b] and two seahs[c] of barley for a shekel at the gate of Samaria.”
The officer on whose arm the king was leaning said to the man of God, “Look, even if the Lord should open the floodgates of the heavens, could this happen?”
“You will see it with your own eyes,” answered Elisha, “but you will not eat any of it!”

I am not saying you will die, in case you misinterpret me, I am just giving an example like I gave in my previous post

Was there a Bible when God spoke to Elisha? That was a specific word about the situation. God still speaks today. Shalom.

Why do you like argument?

I repeat, any pastor or person that tells you he heard a NEW REVELATION from God apart from what is on the Bible is lying to you.

Isaiah 8:20 (KJV)
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.[b]

GoodBoi1:


I never said anything about casting out demons in the names of Pastors. What I meant is that based on your walk with God you can be recognized by the kingdom of darkness just as Jesus is. Also it seems that you doubt the gift of prophecy, God's speaks through various ways. He can speak through his word also God can be SPECIFIC about situations through His servants on earth, He can speak through visions and dreams or anyway He deems fit. He is God and when He speaks then I should believe.
This is an instance of someone that doubted when "God told me" happened

2 Kings 7:1-2
Elisha replied, “Hear the word of the Lord. This is what the Lord says: About this time tomorrow, a seah[a] of the finest flour will sell for a shekel[b] and two seahs[c] of barley for a shekel at the gate of Samaria.”
The officer on whose arm the king was leaning said to the man of God, “Look, even if the Lord should open the floodgates of the heavens, could this happen?”
“You will see it with your own eyes,” answered Elisha, “but you will not eat any of it!”

I am not saying you will die, in case you misinterpret me, I am just giving an example like I gave in my previous post

Was there a Bible when God spoke to Elisha? That was a specific word about the situation. God still speaks today. Shalom.

Why do you like argument?

I repeat, any pastor or person that tells you he heard a NEW REVELATION from God apart from what is in the Bible is lying to you and there is no light in them but darkness. Example is "God told me", "I saw that you will get promoted" etc.

Isaiah 8:20 (KJV)
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Your reference to Elijah. Are you comparing him to today's fraudsters who call themselves prophets? God spoke to the prophets of Old directly and sometimes through angels. Those things were recorded as the Bible and given to us to use as guide on how we should live today.


2 Timothy 3:16-17
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God , and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

That's why we don't hear anything different from what he told his prophets of then. What we hear from God today is from the Bible and is what he told his prophets . No new revelation.

Look at how Elijah prayed during his encounter with the prophets of Baal. Why didn't he just decree and declare fire to come down.

1 Kings 18:36-38
36 And it came to pass at the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, L ORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou art God in Israel, and that I am thy servant, and that I have done all these things at thy word.
37 Hear me, O L ORD , hear me, that this people may know that thou art the L ORD God, and that thou hast turned their heart back again.
38 Then the fire of the L ORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.

GoodBoi1:

If I have faith in God, therefore my speech must align with my faith in God. If I have prayed and recieved from God that 2020 is my year of greatness. Is it wrong if I go about declaring what I have received? You are trying to isolate declaring from faith but the truth is they go together>

1Cor. 4:13
We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

Rom. 10:10
For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

@bold

Where did God tell you that 2020 is your year of greatness? Stop saying what God never said. All what God has for mankind are written in his word the Bible. Anyone coming to tell you of a new revelation e.g "God told me" is only fooling you. Examine what he said. If it doesn't go in line with the law and testimony in the Bible, then it is false and there is no light in such a person.

Isaiah 8:20 (KJV)
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Even the verse in Corinthians which you quoted proves me right and you wrong. It says to have faith according to what is written in the Bible. Now, where is it written in the Bible that 2020 is your year of greatness? Why put faith on such?

The verse you quoted in Romans is talking about salvation, it doesn't support your decree and declare doctrine of fantasies.

Peter had faith just like Jesus. Jesus said that his disciples would do what he did and even greater works.

John 14:12
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.


Do you know that Jesus didn't pray every time before he performs miracles. Why? Jesus Christ was full of great faith and power and he had authority.

John 5:8
Jesus said to him, “Get up, take up your bed, and walk.”

Therefore if Jesus said we would do as he did then that means we can decree and declare. About Peter "subjecting it all to Jesus", what if Peter didin't have much faith, do you think the the healing would take place?

Once again, this has to do with what is written. Peter had faith according to what Jesus said. That's why he was able to do what he did. He had faith according to the written word, not fantasies. Why not go and declare that you are president and see if such will be answered by God. It won't because he never promised you that. Even with his promises, you have to depend on him by having faith in them, not going about declaring and decreeing.

Take a look at the sons of sceva, they used the name of Jesus and even Paul yet they did not get the expected result

Acts 19:14-16
Seven sons of a Jewish high priest named Sceva were doing this. 1But the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I recognize, but who are you?” And the man in whom was the evil spirit leaped on them, mastered all[a] of them and overpowered them so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

The Sons of Sceva didn't have faith in God. If they did, they won't have tried to cast out the demon with statement such as "We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth". It's the same thing with in the name of the God of Baba Adeboye.
It would have been "in the name of Jesus whom we have faith in".

Even from the above scriptures, you can see the evil spirit didn't just know Jesus but also Paul the apostle. Paul can also be likened to great men of God like Oyedepo and Adeboye. Just like any true Christian by virtue of their position they can decree things too but it is God that will have the final say.
If you have attended winners or watched any of their services, hardly will you hear Oyedepo make a prophetic declaration without concluding it with "in the name of Jesus Christ" to show faith in God.

Once again, Paul never taught anyone to cast out demons in his name. His name is powerless, likewise that of Adeboye and Oyedepo whom o consider fraudsters. The name we rely on is Jesus.

Philippians 2:9-11 (KJV)
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

If you like go and cast out demons in the name of Paul, Baba Adeboye or Oyedepo. Sorry na your name

GoodBoi1:

Whether you decree/declare or pray what matters is your faith in God. Decree and declaring doesn't mean I have not prayed, it is just an expression of the faith that has been built up through spiritual activities like prayer and studying God's word, in general spending time with God. Which results in strong conviction about the truth. You believe, therefore you speak. Faith and bold speaking go together and there are several scriptures to prove that. You can't be full of faith and it won't reflect in your speech. Will you call this asking or declaring the truth according to faith in God?

Acts 9:34
And Peter said unto him, Aeneas, Jesus Christ maketh thee whole: arise, and make thy bed. And he arose immediately

As you can see Peter, did not pray

If Peter didn't pray, what then did he mean by "Jesus make thee whole"?

Shouldn't he have just said "Aeneas, arise"?

He simply subjected it all to Jesus who could make Aneneas rise and walk. He never decreed and declared which is to subject it to his own power.

Stop mixing faith and decree/declare. Faith means faith on God, while decree and dear means faith in your ability to speak those things to being.

Below is an Eliphaz the Temanite teaching falsehood to steal money.

GoodBoi1:
Really? Is it wrong if we decree and declare in the name of Jesus Christ? Job 22:28 is not wrongly used. I will show you why

First and foremost, note that decree and declare is not a form of prayer because prayer involves mostly asking and thanking God. Jesus never taught us to decree and declare in his name. He only taught us to ASK in his name. See below for difference

decree and declare= I am great, 2020 is my year of success, double promotion for me, all around good health for me in the new year, no ups and downs will come my way etc.

Asking= God I pray you make the new year a good one for me. Please provide my daily bread. Protect me from evil. Bless my source of livelihood etc.

Can you see the difference? One is acting like he has the authority to make things however he wants. The other believes God is the source of all things and is depending on God for the things he desires.

Yes, both will end their words with "in Jesus name", but which of them sounds like the manner Jesus taught us to pray?

Matthew 6:9-13 (KJV)
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Note the difference between asking and decreeing.


Asking is to beg God for something. Decree and Declare is to speak it to be when God commandeth it not.

Lamentations 3:37
Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?

emae009:
what of Matthew 16:19 & Matthew 18:18

Verse passage, Jesus was talking to Peter, not you.


Matthew 16:18-19 King James Version (KJV)
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

The passage below speaks of action, not just word of mouth. The action brings immediate result. If the church agrees and says a brother is now an heathen, it becomes so and Heaven agrees too because a certain process is followed prior to that. This doesn't say you should declare that you are great when you are a pauper.

Mathew 18:15-18
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

A popular verse in the word of faith movement is Job 22:28 which they use to back their claim that Christians are to decree and declare. The verse reads:

Job 22:28
“Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways.”

I remember when I shared a thread a few days to December 31st to warn Christians against saying certain prayers and in certain manners, many rebuked me and called me an anti-christ. The thread spoke against the decree and declare doctrine. Majority kicked against the message and backed their point by quoting Job 22:28 as seen above. See thread below

https://www.nairaland.com/5603871/why-should-beware-kind-prayer

To them, they are right and I am wrong, but it only shows that they know nothing about the Bible. Let's prove that.

Check out the passage below.

Isaiah 14:13-14
13 ...I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Why is it that Christians don't go about reciting the above passage which looks very much like a decree and declare doctrine? They don't because they know that is what Satan said that turned him into a fallen angel.

So, clearly not every verse in the Bible is meant for us to use in certain ways. The Bible says...

2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God , and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The passage about Satan's fall was not given to us by God for us to go about trying to exalt ourselves to his level. It was given to us to learn not to exalt ourselves or allow provide consume us because that's what led to Satan's fall. That's why the passage above says the scripture was given"for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness".

Why then are people quoting Job 22:28 wrongly and using it to back the decree and declare doctrine? It is because they have been deceived. It is also because they haven't really examined that verse properly. Let's do that.


Job 22:28
“Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways.”

Now, who was talking in the above verse? What is God or one of his prophets? No, it wasn't God nor any of his prophets. That was Eliphaz the Temanite, one of the three friends of Job who visited him during his predicament.

Eliphaz spoke the entire words in Job chapter 22, not God nor his prophets. Verse one explains that.

Job 22:1
Then Eliphaz the Temanite answered and said,


Eliphaz was not a prophet of God. As a matter of fact, all the things he spoke in that chapter wrongly represented God and got rebuked by God for saying them.

Job 42:7-8
7 And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.
8 Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.

Can we now see that the verse in Job 22:28 which is commonly used to support the decree and declare doctrine is wrongly used?

Don't be deceived, any prayer that has you decreeing and declaring is not acceptable unto God because it doesn't align with his word. Nowhere did he ever tell you to do such. Even when Jesus taught us to pray, he never used the decree and declare method. Every part of the prayer sees us relying on God for everything e.g daily bread, protection from temptation etc.

Sadly, many said their New Year prayer in the decree and declare manner. It's not too late. Now is the time to listen to the word of Job who is God's prophet. Listen to the word of God and not the word of Eliphaz, that false prophet that told you to decree and declare when you don't have the power of the universe in your hands.

1Sharon:


After patronising prostitutes, you're back to talking about God?

You couldn't tackle the truth in the link, so you deflect to lies told tto you by a satanist to deceive you from accepting the message of God. Why won't you believe this lies when you are also a satanist.

Curses be yours and your children this new year if I didn't patronized prostitutes.

Now get thee behind me thou accuser of the brethren.

ooohoo:


The same Bible you quoted says in Job 22:28 that:

Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways.

ok

Just read this link:

https://rootedandgroundedinchrist.com/2016/05/02/job-the-word-of-faith-and-declaring-and-decreeing/

femi4:
alBHAG.DADI the AntiChrist quoting lamentation and ignoring job 22:28 and Mt 7:7-8

Besides lam 3:37 is referring to God's enemies

Feel free to read this link:

https://rootedandgroundedinchrist.com/2016/05/02/job-the-word-of-faith-and-declaring-and-decreeing/

princeking2:


JOB 22:28, Mark 11:23

Guy, relax o. You and the entire pastors that have taught you DO NOT KNOW HALF about God. Nobody can know all about God nor his ways.
Don't use a little passage in the Bible to claim authority.

There is a place of asking and a place of declaration and decree. David didn't ask Goliath for his head, he declared it, so with Moses at Red sea, Peter at the beautiful Gate, Jesus with the Mad man and so on.

Please let people be. After alll they are not declaring you.

Feel free to read this link:

https://rootedandgroundedinchrist.com/2016/05/02/job-the-word-of-faith-and-declaring-and-decreeing/

DictionMaster:



Job 22:28 King James Version (KJV)
28 Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways.

Please read this link:


https://rootedandgroundedinchrist.com/2016/05/02/job-the-word-of-faith-and-declaring-and-decreeing/

jospepper:


Job 22:28 KJV

Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways.

This response is for you and all others who have quoted the above verse to rubbish the OP. Kindly read the below link to see how you all quoted that verse wrongly. You all will see your error.


READ:
https://rootedandgroundedinchrist.com/2016/05/02/job-the-word-of-faith-and-declaring-and-decreeing/

malvisguy212:
my point is that what ever thing you ask, you need to be persistent, keep on pressing on, never give up, you are making it look like asking for a better years is bad.

You mean if I keep asking my father to give me a snake, he will one day give it to me? Would that be a loving father?

I'm not saying asking for a better year is bad. These people aren't asking but decreeing and declaring when God has not commanded it.

Asking= "God please make my 2020 year a good one"

Decreeing="2020 is my year of Greatness"

God will likely answer the one asking, not the one declaring. Since you already say 2020 is your year of greatness, then go and enjoy it without me - God. Then we'll see how great it will be.

GoodBoi1:
Even in the scriptures sometimes Jesus or his disciples didn't pray, they just decreed and miracles happened. Why? They had faith in the power of God

I'm glad you said they had faith in the power of God. They never prayed without God involved. They never prayed in their own name.

Acts 3:6
Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

They prayed to Jesus and according to his will who said ...

John 14:12
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater
works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Healing was part of what Jesus did, that's why Peter prayed to hi. and was able to heal the crippled man. But is owning mansions and declaring a wonderful year what Jesus did on Earth? Same Jesus that had no house?

Think about it.

GoodBoi1:


The key is the faith you have in God whether you are asking or decreeing. Similar to what has been said earlier, you are not God. People praying those prayers believe God to pray it. What if God actually has plans of greatness for the person declaring that 2020 is his/her year of greatness and he is declaring it to align with God's plans?
What if the one declaring that he will get a house, car and promotions and it is part of God's plan for his life because God wants to bless others through him?

The key is faith even the Bible said faith without work is dead. What if this people declaring this have the work to show that they believe? I don't pray enemies prayer but I live that to God because vengeance is His.
So bro you ain't God. If you don't have the faith. Don't discourage others. You don't know all of God's plan

Matthew 9:29
Then he touched their eyes and said, "According to your faith let it be done to you

Don't get it wrong, believe/faith has nothing to do with declaring or decreeing. You can't declare or decree and it comes to pass when God has not command it. You don't know what God has commanded that's why you need to ask according to his will.

To know God's plans, you have to read the Bible. If whatever you want to decree and declare doesn't align with God's word in the Bible, then it can't come to pass no matter how much you pray. So to say someone is decreeing what might actually align with God's plans is wrong. You don't have a job or a means of livelihood and you are decreeing for a mansion. Dude, what you need is a job, pray for one, not a proclamation of mansion.

malvisguy212:
Luke 11:8, "I say unto you, Though he will not
rise and give him, because he is his friend, yet
BECAUSE OF HIS IMPORTUNITY he will rise and
give him as many as he needeth.".

The word for “importunity” in the Greek literally means “SHAMLESNESS.” Without shame. a modest man will say " gee, I ask and he didn't give me, I better be going" but a fervent man, would be persistent..

Or if he
shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? If
ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts
unto your children: how much more shall your
heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that
ask him?"

You need to understand, the point that is being made here, the point is that if you expect to be heard of God you're going to have to knock and you're going to have to be persistent in what you do, and you are going to have to be shameless.

Luke 11:9-10, "And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; lnock, and it shall be opened unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth;
and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."

One thing you can say for sure is that a man who doesn't ask is not going to get it, a man who isn't looking for it isn't going to find it, and a man who doesn't knock on the door will never get it open.

Do the below prayers sound like asking?


"2020 is my year of greatness"
"I shall not lack in 2020".
"I will own 2020"
"A house, car and promotion for me next year"
"All my enemies shall die in 2020"

They sound like speaking it to be when God commandeth it not. That's equivalent to witchcraft.


Lamentations 3:37
Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?

You also make it seem like Once I am persistent with asking, then God will do it. What if I'm asking for a snake?

Luke 11:11-13, "If a son shall ask bread of any of
you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or
if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a
serpent?

Most people are asking for a snake, that's why God doesn't answer them. So, just asking is not what matters but asking according to God's will.

GoodBoi1:

Really? Jesus said we should not declare or decree ?
Matthew 17:20
You don’t have enough faith,” Jesus told them. “I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it would move. Nothing would be impossible

Did you notice the use of the word faith? Faith in whom? Faith in Jesus Christ. Faith in the word of Jesus Christ. Nowhere did Jesus promise you greatness on Earth in the certain sense people pray on December 31st. If he did, then you can pray in that direction. But since he didn't say such word, then praying as seen below is mere commanding wishes from thin air. They don't align with God's word or Jesus word.


"2020 is my year of greatness"
"I shall not lack in 2020".
"I will own 2020"
"A house, car and promotion for me next year"
"All my enemies shall die in 2020"


Where is the faith in Jesus in the above prayers? No faith in Jesus because they spoke when he didn't command it to be. That's exactly the same mistake the Disciples made that made Jesus say what he said in the verse you quoted

Lamentations 3:37
Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?

When you lack faith in Jesus, you won't ask for things according to his will for your life. You will ask for things according to your own desires. This leads to wrong prayers that never get answered. You might as well go and declare that you will become a space scientist in 2020 when you've never read a book before. Go ahead and do that and see if the mountain will move in your favour. Dude, if it's not God's will for you, it won't happen.

GoodBoi1:
Hmmm.... Really? Studying the bible you will learn that there are different kinds of prayer. How can you post an article about prayer and you never quoted the passages where Jesus Christ thought the disciples to pray? Jesus Christ encourages us to be persistent in prayer

Luke 11:5-10
5 Then Jesus said to them, “Suppose you have a friend, and you go to him at midnight and say, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves of bread; 6 a friend of mine on a journey has come to me, and I have no food to offer him.’ 7 And suppose the one inside answers, ‘Don’t bother me. The door is already locked, and my children and I are in bed. I can’t get up and give you anything.’ 8 I tell you, even though he will not get up and give you the bread because of friendship, yet because of your shameless audacity[e] he will surely get up and give you as much as you need.

9 “So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

Who are you to be mocking people who are believing God for something and it looks like they have not received it. I wonder what you will say about Abraham and Hannah in the bible, I guess you will mock them too

Jesus said we should ask, not declare or decree. Now, tell me, where in the below kind of prayers does it sound like people asking?

"2020 is my year of greatness"

"I shall not lack in 2020".

"I will own 2020"

"A house, car and promotion for me next year"

"All my enemies shall die in 2020" etc


Lamentations 3:37
Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?

Learn to read the verse you quoted very well

On December 31st, many Churches which use to be half filled with witness an extreme number of attendance. Those who normally get lots of attendance will rent more space and chairs because the attendance on that night will be massive. Why?

Those who will fill the Church auditoriums are those who have enjoyed a Detty December and now want a prosperous New Year. We all want the same and that is what false prophets capitalize on. This thread is aimed at warning the public against their antics and evil ways ahead of December 31st night.

On December 31st aka Watch Night aka Crossover Night, many Churches will lead people into saying prayers that are contrary to the Bible. Many will even command God as if he's their slave.

Examples of prayers many will say and also say the loudest Amen to:

"2020 is my year of greatness"

"I shall not lack in 2020".

"I will own 2020"

"A house, car and promotion for me next year"

"All my enemies shall die in 2020" etc

Have you ever taken your time to even examine these prayers that false prophets love to tell their congregation to say? These prayers are totally unbiblical and against the word of God. That's why many of those who say them will come back on December 2020 to say the same thing because none ever got answered. Why didn't they get answered?

Lamentations 3:37
Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?

How can you say "2020 my year of greatness" when God commanded it not? Where in the entire Bible did God say such concerning your life? How can you say "you shall not lack in 2020" without saying it as a prayer to God but as a command? God says in Psalm 34:19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.

As seen above, the prayer involves God, same way David involved God saying "the Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want".

But today, people make all sorts of wild and fantasy demands and claim it is word of faith. They go further to say it is the things you tell yourself that comes to pass. That's a LIE because...

Lamentations 3:37
Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?

It is a lie because even if you say you will die tomorrow and God doesn't command it, you won't die. Same goes for saying you will be great. If God doesn't command it, it won't come to pass.

These false prophets go further by telling their congregation to repeat after them saying "My father, My father, rise up and lift me up in 2020". This is totally a disrespect for God. They do this because they don't know who God is. You don't tell God what to do, he tells you what to do. He gives the commands, not you. This is why many prayers won't be answered on December 31st.

So how do you pray? Pray acccording to God's will. That's how Jesus prayed. Ask to know what God's will is for your life. Pray that he shows you so you can walk in it. This will save you the stress of praying for a mansion and cars when you are totally jobless. Any prayer you say, tell God to help you get your mind off it if it's not his will for your life. This will help prevent you from expecting things you demanded from God and feeling disappointed when they don't get fulfilled. Always pray according to his will.

Luke 22:42
Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done

A second false strategy used by false prophets on December 31st is the extortion of money from their congregation. They tell you to sow a seed in terms of money to make your 2020 great. They tell you to give to God so that he can give to you in return. This is a scam and contrary to God's word.

You don't pay God to give you anything. How much have you paid for the life you have now? The air you breathe and the light of day and night? Did you give God something before you got those things? No.

Romans 8:32
He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

Did you see the bolded word which says freely? Where does it say "sow a seed before God gives you anything?". Nowhere. God has been giving us all things right from time and totally free.

Why then are you falling for the scam of seed sowing to reap blessings? It's because you are either a thief or you don't believe God's word that he will freely give us all things.

Many sowed seeds for greatness on December 31st, 2019, and none got harvested. The false prophets will tell then that though they might have sown a seed for a house or promotion at work, but the seed got harvested in form of the good health they enjoyed. Which farmer will want to remain in business if he keeps reaping something totally different from what he sowed?
The false prophets have basically made them lose hope and their trust in God for not fulfilling his own end of a bargain he never got involved in. SCAM

Show me where in the entire scriptures someone sowed a seed to God and got blessed. You will never find. So, there is no basis in the Bible for you to rely on seed sowing. It is useless and contrary to God's word. So, any pastor telling you to sow a seed so that your new year will be great is fake and a scammer. It is his own new year that will be great as a result of your money.

Now, why do you still want to congregate in a so-called church that operates in this manner - false crossover prayers and seed sowing? None of what they practice goes in line with God's word. It also shows that they do not know God.

Isaiah 8:20 KJV
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If they speak not according to God's word, it means they are not sent by God. Flee from them or else they will keep scaming you. Your failure to read the Bible and accept the Gospel is the reason why you will always be available to be scammed by them. That's why, after having a Detty December, many will now remember God on the 31st because they want the fun of December to continue in the new year. Guess what? Fake pastors will tell them what they want to hear just to take their money.

Be careful where you go to praise God on Crossover night. Be careful the kind of prayers you say. Be careful the kind of gift you give God.

Thank you.

Picture of the Pharisee and the tax collector saying a prayer

OLAADEGBU:


Muslims don't believe Jesus is God and you also share the same the belief, so what's the difference except one is dead and the other alive?

Where did I tell you that I don't believe Jesus is God?

OLAADEGBU:


I thought Trump's dog already killed Al baghadi. Why are you still alive, are you an imposter?

Check the spelling of his name and my Monika very well, you will see that Trump has no business with moi

toronto10:
thank you sir but can you suggest the right church one should attend. I attend Catholic church but there are some of our doctrines that I am not comfortable with.

Run away from Catholic Church. Most of the churches I condemned are babies of the Catholic Church. Their Jesuits are the ones behind them.

For now, I'll recommend a Baptist Church, even though I see that they've become too liberal. The good part is that they believe in the true gospel of salvation by Grace through Faith alone.

Stay away from any church that tells you that you can lose your salvation. They are boldly denying that Jesus Christ has the power to save once and forever.

Stay away from Pentecostal and Charismatic churches. They are into witchcraft and don't even know God.

niaralandtopuser:

Catholics have more followers than any other group on earth if followers make a broad way. almost all the churches on earth are same thing

... which means they are all on the way to hell fire.

lalasticlala morning

Stay away from...

RCCG
Deeper Life
MFM
Lord's Chosen...

and all these Pentecostal and Charismatic churches.


They are sending people to hell on a daily basis. Nothing g they do there represents Jesus. In fact, they glaringly oppose him.

How I wish people can see

Truefaith:
Charismatic and Pentecostal preachers are not Christians misled into sorcery; they are sorcerers pretending to be Christians

Their doctrines are totally satanic

And their location doesn't matter





You like to know the truth?

Pick your Bible and let us examine the words in its pages


You'll be shocked how much you've been deceived by wolves and workers of Satan calling themselves pastors

www.thetruechristianfaith.com

I've been reading your blog, and I must say it's power packed with the truth of God.

Keep it up

1Sharon:


And its funny how they're successful businessman and they don't pay any tithes.

It seems they don't need your God.

When the time comes for them to need him, he won't be there to save them from eternal torment.

It's clear you are an atheist. I now wonder why you are worked up on tithes issue. Shouldn't you be somewhere explaining g the big bang theory?