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Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:57pm On Aug 16, 2020
Investnow2017:

Abel made an animal sacrifice long before the Judaism law, should Christians follow your principle and engage in making animal sacrfices too?

Abel's animal sacrifice was a picture of Jesus Christ the Holy Lamb who was slain for our sins.

Abraham, Jacob and others also sacrificed the blood of animals or the forgiveness of their sins. All of that was a picture of the ultimate sacrifice to be done by Jesus Christ. Now that Jesus Christ has come, we no longer need to sacrifice animals because his death has taken away our sins.

John 1:29 KJV
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

1 Peter 1:19-20 KJV
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:15pm On Aug 16, 2020
desiredhome:


Maybe the God of Nigerian tithe payers is very wicked because with all the tithe payers, Churches everywhere (highly religious), prayers....yet the most poor on earth.......

The last time I checked God's word promise His children long life and God health.........

Meanwhile the other countries with less of religion.....etc have more promising life styles.....

We focus on tithe (irrelevant), money, physical building more than love (the most important) of all the commandments...... Mathew 23:23b

Only if the so call Christians can practice love the way Christ commands, we will have the best country on earth

We don't pay tithe to become rich. We pay because it belongs to God who in turn protects us from evil.

We don't pay tithe to become rich because it will be difficult for a rich man to make heaven while easy for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.
Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:13pm On Aug 16, 2020
desiredhome:


As Christians (followers of Christ) were did Jesus Christ paid tithe in the Bible...

Stop being dumb. Jesus is God and so had no need to tithe to himself. Mugu
Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:12pm On Aug 16, 2020
desiredhome:


Lol..... Abraham tithe from the spoil of war, not monthly income or personal profit....

The bold is a clear evidence to show that you have no proof to show how that Abraham paid tithe (monthly income) as tithe

Was Abraham a monthly income earner? Man was a boss who had servants and livestock. This means earnings didn't come in for him on a monthly basis. He must have earned according to the need for his wares. So he paid tithe according to how he earned which includes spoils of war.
Religion / Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by alBHAGDADI: 10:29am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?

You are consulting spiritism and claimi ng it is God that revealed to you in a vision. Everything God has to say to mankind is in the Bible. Any new revelation is not the word of God. If you say God told you something in a vision, then add it to the Bible. But note that there is a curse on whoever adds to God's word. So, saying you heard God's word other than what's contained in the Bible is falsehood.

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Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 9:48am On Aug 16, 2020
jmoore:


Abraham went to war. He collected his spoils from
the war. He paid from what he got in the war. No
other reference of Abraham paying any tithe.

Btw, Abel, Abraham and Jacob all sacrificed animals to God?

Animal sacrifice existed before Judaism.

Why are you no longer scarifying animals to God?


Tithe is not for Christians!!

You people know nada, yet you pose like an authority on the Bible.

Look at how you are trying to rubbish Abraham's tithe by calling it spoils of war. Since when did spoils of war stop amounting to what you worked for? Or do you think fighting a battle is child's play?

Abraham fought and got the spoils of war. He gave God ten percent. He did that to acknowledge that he didn't win that battle himself but with the help of God. Or how else do you think Abraham and his 300 men conquered ten Kings and their armies?

It's the same thing as going to work and getting paid out of which you pay tithe to God because he's really the one that made it possible for you to have that job, not your might.

You don't understand the concept behind animal sacrifice. It was a picture of Jesus Christ the Holy Lamb. They sacrificed animals to pay for their sins in anticipation of when Jesus Christ will be sacrificed so that we will no longer rely on the blood of bulls and rams but on his blood as payment for our sins.

If Abel, Abraham and Jacob were alive today, they won't be sacrificing animals but relying on the one time sacrifice of Jesus.

Mind you, because the Bible never recorded that Abraham tithed again doesn't mean he never did. Or are we to conclude that Abraham never brushed his teeth or used the toilet because no such record exists?

Please just shut up because you know nothing. Shut up or God will punish you for posing as knowledgeable on top of your ignorance. My Frank advice.

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Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 9:36am On Aug 16, 2020
Janosky:


What do you expect from someone who bears the moniker of a renowned terrorist and man of violence?

Them no know say names are expressions which follows the bearers.


Check am nau,
Would Nimrod attach any positive adjectives to Jehovah's name?

You will be foolish to expect me to come with mild temper against someone trampling on my Father's laws and calling them a lie.
Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 9:34am On Aug 16, 2020
jmoore:

How did it exist before Judaism?

Abel tithed, Abraham did and also Jacob. All those patriarch existed before Judaism came to play.
Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 9:31am On Aug 16, 2020
Maximus69:


Just ask politely my guy, Christians don't use derogatory statements simply because we want to make a point, we treat everyone with deep respect and mild temper! 1Peter 3:15

Jesus is our law now Sir, he didn't give us any written form of laws, he lived his own laws. Romans 10:2-4

God bless you! smiley

As common with Jehovah's False Witnesses, you have sidestepped the point and acted as if it's not there.

Here you are implying that the commandments given by God in the Old Testament are no longer valid and that it is Jesus you are following. Whereas Jesus himself said those laws still stand.

Mathew 5:7 KJV
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Why would Jesus destroy those laws and render them obsolete when he said that he and his Father are One, which means they agree?

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

If he and his Father are One, then it means his Father's laws still stand because he stands with them. And if he stands with them, it means those who love him are to obey his commandments which are his Father's laws because they are One.

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

But a lying false witness says Jesus and God are not one, that's why his foolishness separated them and their laws.

Since God's laws don't matter to you, then go ahead and disobey the one that says you shouldn't sleep with your mother. Go ahead and disobey it because you won't be punished for a law which is old covenant.

Everybody, watch how he will sidestep this post and come up with something entirely different, which doesn't address it.

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Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 9:18am On Aug 16, 2020
jmoore:
Tithe is for Judaism.

Tithe is not for Christians.

Tithing existed before Judaism, it is the law of God which not one jot will pass away.

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Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 9:14am On Aug 16, 2020
Maximus69:


There is nothing like tithing in Christianity, it's part of the old covenant that has been nailed to the torture stake.
The arrangement that brought about the tithe is no more in use so there's no need to continue paying tithes! Hebrew 7:11-12

Mr Jehovah's False Witness, since Jesus has nailed that old covenant to the "torture stake", why not disobey the law below by having hot steaming sex with your mother or homosexual sex with your father? I believe you hold the view that the law below is also in the old covenant. Mugu.

Leviticus 18:6-7
None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their unclothedness: I am the L ORD .
The unclothedness of thy father, or the unclothedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her unclothedness.

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Religion / Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 9:11am On Aug 16, 2020
@OP

Tithing is not what gets you to heaven, BELIEVE in Jesus Christ is what guarantees you heaven.

But does that mean tithing is not compulsory? No. Tithing is the law of God which must be obeyed. It comes with a blessing for obeying and a curse for disobeying, same thing with other laws of God.

For example, God said we shouldn't steal. If you obey, which leaves you to within your means, God will bless the little you have such that you won't need to steal. If you don't obey, guess what? If you are caught stealing, you will be disgraced. What if you get sent to prison for 20 years for that?

Do you know how many people don't even know what Instagram, Facebook and Twitter is? They don't know what an Android phone is. Why? Because they have been in prison for more than 20 years and deprived of many things. So, if you don't steal, you don't suffer such.

What I find funny is how stubborn people feel tithing is no more the law of God because it's in the old testament. Okay, God also told us in the old testament that we shouldn't have sex with our mothers father, sister, aunty or close kin in general. The those stubborn people to go and do that since that law is in the old testament.

Dear OP, the way to make heaven is not by tithing. Tithing only helps you here on Earth but also in heaven where you get rewarded for obeying God's commandment. But it plays not part in getting you into heaven. How do you make heaven?

You make heaven by simply believing that Jesus Christ paid for your sins, including the one of not paying tithe. Once you do that, he gives you eternal life and you will never perish according to John 3:16. With that heaven is certain for you and nothing can make you lose it. You already have eternal life which can't be taken from you otherwise it will mean it was never an eternal life God gave you.

But can God punish you for disobedience like not paying your tithe. But will he throw you in hell because of that? No. Why? You are his child which you became the moment you believed in his Son Jesus Christ.

John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

As a parent, you can never burn you child with fire for disobedience. Why should you now think our Heavenly Father will do the same to his children.

Mathew 7:11 KJV
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Accept Jesus Christ today and you will never miss heaven.

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Religion / Re: NBA Player Refuses To Kneel For Black Lives Matter, Says It's Against Gospel by alBHAGDADI: 5:01pm On Aug 01, 2020
chukwunweikeemi:
so good,so true.I love that he didn't take a kneel.All lives matter and until we come closer to God we will never value human life.Most people who are shocked at what happened to George floyd don't have a problem with abortion which is cold-blooded murder.Aborted babies die a more horrible death than George Floyd and it is even more painful because the death is parent assisted.

You are right.

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Religion / Re: NBA Player Refuses To Kneel For Black Lives Matter, Says It's Against Gospel by alBHAGDADI: 4:59pm On Aug 01, 2020
Kobojunkie:
What is it about my post do you not understand? Your stance as far as black lives matter has absolutely NOTHING to do with God and the things of God. Stop trying to drag GOD along with you!

If you think posting gooble-de-gook you were fed by other propagandists on those you like to hate is going to somehow sway me in much the same way you were easily swayed, then you are trying to "engage" the wrong person.

Does Black Lives Matter support LGBTQ which God hates? YES

Does Black Lives Matter hates nuclear family which God loves? YES

Should Christians love what God loves and hate what he hates? YES.

If your answers to the above questions are also YES, then why do you still question a Christian's stance against Black Lives Matter?

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Religion / Re: NBA Player Refuses To Kneel For Black Lives Matter, Says It's Against Gospel by alBHAGDADI: 4:45pm On Aug 01, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Learn to read!
But you were not going to engage me grin
Religion / Re: NBA Player Refuses To Kneel For Black Lives Matter, Says It's Against Gospel by alBHAGDADI: 4:43pm On Aug 01, 2020
Kobojunkie:

OP, if you read the write-up, you would see that the man never said it was against the gospel, which is true. Your title is misleading.

The wearing of a tee shirt and kneeling, it refusal to, has nothing to do with God or the gospel. People need to stop acting like brainless dingbats in the name of God.

Look below.

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Religion / Re: NBA Player Refuses To Kneel For Black Lives Matter, Says It's Against Gospel by alBHAGDADI: 4:40pm On Aug 01, 2020
Kobojunkie:
All lives matter but that is no reason to then support a cause devoted to finding a cure for Sickle cell Anaemia, is it?

Christianity has nothing to do with a support or lack of for a movement that chooses to focus on a subset of the population. People should stop trying to DRAG God down into there prejudice.

I am not a fan of the blacklives matter movement myself because I also believe a more broad approach is needed to tackle the problem. That said, I refuse to pretend my stance is God's stance ad that is small-minded and God is anything but small-minded. And He does not call any of His own to such thinking

Just keep your mouth shut.

Who told you that Black Lives Matter is a "movement that chooses to focus on a subset of the population"?. Have you spent time to check their website to see their agenda?

A look at their agenda sees them boldly stating that they seek to destroy the nuclear family ordained by God. They want to defend police and support the LGBTQ+.

Is that what you want a Christian to show solidarity with to the point of kneeling down?

Black Lives Matter is anti-God and anti-Christian.

Christians who are saved are awake and can see the clear handwriting of the Antichrist.

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Religion / The Misunderstanding Of Bishop Oyedepo's Tweet On Tithing by alBHAGDADI: 7:45am On Jul 19, 2020
Over the week, Bishop David Oyedepo sparked controversy on social media after he said that tweeted about tithing. This led many people like Daddy Freeze and other Nigerians to react by giving their own opinion on what tithing is.

Oyedepo had tweeted:

Tithing is an inescapable covenant obligation. Prosperity not just wealth is impossible without tithing, because when you're not paying your tithe, you're under a financial curse.

What Oyedepo said is totally right (even though I don't like him and know he's fake). It is only applicable to people who are saved and children of God. No fake Christians or unbelievers.

Yes, tithing is a covenant. Also, you can't proper and acquire wealth without tithing, that's if you are a child of God and saved. If you are not a child of God, then the message is not for you. You can go acquire wealth and prosperity through dubious and corrupt means; people do, Hushpuppi did.

Are you under a financial curse when you don't pay your tithe? Yes, if you are a child of God. Why is that so? Because you are robbing God. You are spending what belongs to him which exposes you to the devourer.

Now, let's examine how Daddy Freeze responded to Oyedepo's tweet.

Daddy Freeze tweeted:

Utter nonsense!
Are you one percent as prosperous or as wealthy as Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet who dont tithe? I personally find this unscriptural statement manipulative and cruel. Christ didnt collect tithe neither did the disciples, yet no one was cursed!

It is stupid comparing the unbelievers to Christians. Will all know how these billionaires came about their wealth. Even at that, none of them have been able to attain as much as King Solomon who tithed.

Kindly note that it is foolish to tithe in the name of wanting to be wealthy and prosperous. Tithing is giving to God what belongs to him. He only blesses you for your obedience and does more by keeping you away from harm's way i.e the devourer. God has already assured you of prosperity, but not tithing out of it cannot send you back to being poor.

But how come the wicked people are wealthier than Christians? Don't be envious of them. Such mindset reminds me of Asaph in the book of Psalms. Read how he became envious of the wicked, their riches and the peace they enjoyed.

Psalm 73:3
E For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.
8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.
9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.

He went on to lamented that he was just living a clean life in vain. Isn't that the same way youths of today say "school na scam" because internet fraudsters are now celebrated? He lamented until he saw what their end will be. Isn't that similar to how Hushpuppi was celebrated to the point that righteous and hard-working guys almost looked stupid. But look at his end today.

Psalm 73:12-19
12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.
14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.
16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

Let's address one more thing Daddy Freeze said which is wrong.

He said,
Christ didnt collect tithe neither did the disciples, yet no one was cursed

Who told him Jesus Christ didn't collect tithe? Perhaps, he's expecting to see a verse clearly stating such. Since there is no clear statement in that in the Bible, we can as well conclude that Jesus never took his bath or go to the toilet since there is no verse on that as well.

Saying Jesus didn't collect tithe is the same as saying he's a liar when he said:

John 16:15 KJV
15 All things that the Father hath are mine:

Everything that belongs to God also belongs to Jesus including tithe. While he was on Earth, the tithe being paid at the temple belonged to him same way it belonged to him while he was in heaven and even now.

Nowhere did he abolish tithing. He had the opportunity twice to do so but instead he upheld it.

So, what Oyedepo said is totally right and only meant for saved Christians, not for unbelievers.

Even false high priest Caiaphas once said something right when he said Jesus should die for the sins of the whole world.

John 11:50
Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

The below threads will answer your questions on tithing.

https://www.nairaland.com/4906753/daddy-freeze-liar-tithing-very

https://www.nairaland.com/5469455/giving-tithe-church-needy-what

https://www.nairaland.com/4938431/it-not-law-moses-god

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Religion / Re: My Reaction As Reno Omokri Kicks Against Chris Okotie's Stance Against Online Ch by alBHAGDADI: 7:37pm On Jul 15, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


Oh! That fear tactics that they use in controlling you. Sorry. It doesn't work o everone. El Rufai demolished some churches as FCT minister. See how his life is spoilt. By the way, the Romans that destroyed the temple in Jerusalem. What happened to their lives? You bunch are the reason some people make Christians a laughing stock.

You might as well go ahead and do yours.

El-rufai might have demolished those churches based on good legal standing. If otherwise, God has his first way of dealing with his kind. The Romans could destroy the temple because God allowed it. He was done with the activities taking place there since Jesus came to earth.

Just go and poo in a church tonight. grin
Religion / Re: My Reaction As Reno Omokri Kicks Against Chris Okotie's Stance Against Online Ch by alBHAGDADI: 8:43am On Jul 15, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


When Saul was attacking the church how did he do it? By going to church services in a building designated as "church"? See the scripture (Acts 8:3:

As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

Your problem is that you stick to one definition of a word and ride home with it. Church has many meanings. It means a building and also the called out ones. It also means congregation.

The verse you quoted speaks of Saul attacking the called out ones by going to drag them out of their houses. This was an havoc on the church i.e the congregation or called out ones, not the building called church. Learn to spot the difference.

Acts 8:3 KJV
As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.
Religion / Re: My Reaction As Reno Omokri Kicks Against Chris Okotie's Stance Against Online Ch by alBHAGDADI: 8:37am On Jul 15, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


I don't know. You guys always read your preconceived meaning into scriptures. The guy you replied to tried to correct you, but he must be wrong because it doesn't fit your narrative. So if you say "the house of Jacob" it can't mean the family of Jacob? Or when you talk of pillar, below (Rev 3:12) you mean Jesus will make he that overcomes to become a cement structure, right?:

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

When both Paul and Jacob spoke of Pillar, they meant it literally. Jacob even demonstrated by making a pillar out of a stone and aced it on the ground.

Genesis 28:18
18 And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a
pillar , and poured oil upon the top of it.

When Paul spoke of Pillar, he he meant it literally.

1 Timothy 3:15 King James Version
15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

When Jesus spoke of Pillar, he was talking in the spiritual sense.

Revelation 3:12
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Mind you, the "house of Jacob" can also means the family of Jacob. But in the context of the House of God, we see it speaking of a literal building and also a family. If it doesn't speak of a literal building, then what's the essence of Jacob making a pillar on a ground and calling it the house of God which later became a Temple built by solomon?

1 Chronicles 22:1-6
1 Then David said, This is the house of the L ORD God, and this is the altar of the burnt offering for Israel.
2 And David commanded to gather together the strangers that were in the land of Israel; and he set masons to hew wrought stones to build the house of God.
3 And David prepared iron in abundance for the nails for the doors of the gates, and for the joinings; and brass in abundance without weight;
4 Also cedar trees in abundance: for the Zidonians and they of Tyre brought much cedar wood to David.
5 And David said, Solomon my son is young and tender, and the house that is to be builded for the LORD must be exceeding magnifical, of fame and of glory throughout all countries: I will therefore now make preparation for it. So David prepared abundantly before his death.
6 Then he called for Solomon his son, and charged him to build an house for the LORD God of Israel


What's the essence of Paul saying the House of God is the pillar and ground of truth? What's ground and pillar doing in a family if their phrase is not literal?.

Even the passage in Chronicles speaks of literal things that make up the house of God. Yet you are trying to change it into "family". Family is the people gathered while the building that houses them is the House of God. If you say the House of God is the family, then it means there was no family of God until Solomon built the house of God. Sorry, the family of God existed with the Israelites and now with Christians who congregate in a house dedicated to God just as Solomon dedicated a building to God.
Religion / Re: My Reaction As Reno Omokri Kicks Against Chris Okotie's Stance Against Online Ch by alBHAGDADI: 7:50am On Jul 15, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


What you termed "House of God" which was the "Church of God" was a group of people, not a building. When 5000 were converted in a day did you read anywhere where Peter started erection a building? If 5000 were converted then many homes were converted which could still be used for meetings.

Don't know when people will realise that Christianity is not a temple based religion.

Scroll up to see further explanation on how House of God means a building. Or will you see a church building and say it is not the house of God? Go and desecrate it and see what will become of your life.

When Peter converted 5000 people, you can't expect them to create more house churches. Let's imagine they created house churches of 100 people each. That should be 50 house churches. Where will they see pastors for each of them? Or do you expect the baby Christians to start pastoring each other? That's why Paul kept on writing letters to those churches which means he served as their guide before Timothy was ordained, which must be after he grew in faith and in the word of God.
Religion / Re: My Reaction As Reno Omokri Kicks Against Chris Okotie's Stance Against Online Ch by alBHAGDADI: 6:41am On Jul 15, 2020
Acehart:


“House“ (οἶκος oikos) is translated as household or family. In verse 5, Paul defined the meaning of Church (ἐκκλησία ekklēsia) of God using the picture of a Bishop and His responsibility to this family.

Your translation of ‘family’ to mean a ‘Building structure’ is erroneous.

When you people want to reject what the Bible expressly days or you want to twist it to mean the lie, you go back to the Greek or Hebrew language. You use it to confuse people who don't understand those languages which aren't even your mother tongue.

You are trying to fault the Bible description of the House of God by saying it is a filter and not a building structure.

Look, that verse in Timothy speaks of pillar and ground of truth. It clearly shows that it is talking about a building structure, not some family as you put.

Where did Paul get the idea from? He got it from Jacob who dreamt and saw angels of God descending and ascending on the spot he slept on. This made him fear when he woke up.

Genesis 28:17-19
17 And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.
18 And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it.
19 And he called the name of that place Bethel: but the name of that city was called Luz at the first.

Notice how Jacob called the place the house of God. He also set up a pillar on that ground which is where Paul got the phrase pillar and ground of truth. He went on to called the place Bethel which means House of God. That spot is where King Solomon built the first temple in Israel which was a building structure.

So, don't go back to the Greek or Hebrew in an attempt to try to rubbish the clear word of God because many don't understand those languages. God has given us his word in English and many other languages. Except you want to say God is not perfect enough to give us his word in other languages in a perfect way.
Religion / My Reaction As Reno Omokri Kicks Against Chris Okotie's Stance Against Online Ch by alBHAGDADI: 10:46pm On Jul 14, 2020
Reno Omokri has reacted to a sermon in which Reverend Chris Okotie stated that online churches are unscriptural.

Okotie stated this while condemning the continued closure of churches due to COVID-19 pandemic while other sectors are allowed to open.

In as much as I don't agree to much of what Okotie said and I don't fancy his lifestyle, I still found some valuable points in the sermon.

Reading through Reno Omokri's response to the sermon, I could see some flaws. Read his post below.

Dear Reverend Kris Okotie,

Jheri curling of hair is unscriptural for men too (1 Corinthians 11:14), yet, you have been jheri curling your hair even before I was born. Meeting in a church building is also unscriptural. The early Christians met in each other’s homes (Romans 16:5). So many things we do today are unscriptural, but that does not make them sinful. It is better for people to meet physically as the Body of Christ. However, when it becomes impossible or difficult to meet physically, online churches are a better alternative than not going to church at all

‪#FreeLeahSharibu #RenosNuggets

Let's examine points raised by Reno Omokri and see if they are correct or not.

1.) Meeting in a church building is also unscriptural.

This is totally wrong and shows that Reno Omokri who claims to be a pastor hasn't read much of the Bible or perhaps didn't understand what he read.

1 Timothy 3:15 King James Version
15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

The verse above shows that there is a place called the House of God. The Bible makes it clear in the same verse that that house is the Church of the Living God.

To debunk Reno Omokri's claim that it is unscriptural that we meet in church, the verse tells us to know how to behave ourselves in the house of God. If we are not told to meet there, why is this verse telling us to know how to behave when we get there? So, Reno Omokri is wrong with this point.

2.) The early Christians met in each other’s homes

Reno Omokri is right with this point but wrong on where he's driving it to. The early Christians did meet in homes and that was when they were few. But as they won souls to Christ, they grew in number and so the homes couldn't contain every one that came for fellowship. At the beginning, a house could contain 200 people. But in one day, Peter converted about 5000 souls to Christianity.

Acts 4:4 KJV
Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand.

Tell me who has a house big enough to house 5000 people? That's how the idea of building the House of God came into play just as it was done in the time of King Solomon.

3.) When it becomes impossible or difficult to meet physically, online churches are a better alternative than not going to church at all

His words here seem innocent but clearly coming from someone who doesn't know what Christianity is up against.

Yes, there's YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Television etc, but those things are controlled by the wicked ones. There are certain things you can comfortably say in a church auditorium that you can't put on social media or on Television.

Do you think local TV stations will air a pastor's sermon against Islam? No. Pastor Steven Anderson in Arizona, USA, had his YouTube channel terminated recently. They claim his videos have copyright contents which is a big lie.

As far as I can see, his channel was terminated because his videos preached hard against homosexuality and the LGBTQ lifestyle. He condemns sin and everything the wicked powers support. They had to shut him up from the only mainstream media he had access to. Go to his Instagram page and see how homosexuals are trolling him. Yet Reno Omokri thinks Christianity will survive virtually or online.

Christianity has to remain Christianity and not change because some powers that be ordered it to change. We have to always stay together which is by gathering together under one roof, the Church which is the House of God.

Hebrews 10:25 King James Version
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

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Religion / Re: The True Meaning Of Speaking In Tongues As Revealed By The Bible by alBHAGDADI: 7:14am On Jul 12, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Day Pastor Adeboye Proved Himself To Be A False Prophet by alBHAGDADI: 10:00pm On Jun 28, 2020
piyoo91:
Bro, i want to comment but am scare not to get myself under the wrath of God...does that mean kenneth e haggin of blessed memory, benson idahosa, apostle johnson suleman, david oyedepo are all false prophet?

Yes, they are. That's why they are friends.

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Religion / Re: The Day Pastor Adeboye Proved Himself To Be A False Prophet by alBHAGDADI: 8:19pm On Jun 28, 2020
Tillatalk:
who are you to judge a prophet of God .. are you God .. hypocrite

First of all, he's not a prophet of God. Secondly, the Bible says...

1 Thessalonians 5:21 KJV
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Adeboye has been proven to be a false prophet.

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Religion / Re: The Day Pastor Adeboye Proved Himself To Be A False Prophet by alBHAGDADI: 8:15pm On Jun 28, 2020
Maximus69:


First of all i want you to know that if we're to go by your opinion, then Kumuyi is also a false prophet!

WHY?

Because a prophet of God need not fear those who can kill the body but can't kill the soul {Matthew 10:28} so if you know this and i want to believe that it's God's holy spirit that opened your minds eyes to see it, how come Kumuyi who was also present at the event have kept quiet all this while on the matter? undecided

So it's either your personal opinion which should be kept in your own mind or we all those present at the occasion are spiritually blind to what the spirit revealed to the man of God (AIBHAGDADI) which means Kumuyi himself is fake! smiley

Kumuyi is a false prophet too.

Don't quote me again Mr Jehovah's False Witness.

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Religion / Re: The Day Pastor Adeboye Proved Himself To Be A False Prophet by alBHAGDADI: 12:16pm On Jun 28, 2020
Acehart:


It seems to me that what you are writing is your personal opinion rather than an expose: Though you seem objective but your opinion and the person pronoun, “I”, is causing your writeup to be subjective and personal. Apart from these, your concern is valid.

Enjoy your day.

It's personal but Bible based. I hate him because he hated Jesus Christ

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Religion / Re: The Day Pastor Adeboye Proved Himself To Be A False Prophet by alBHAGDADI: 12:12pm On Jun 28, 2020
Holumhidey:
I am waiting for Righteousness89 to comment.....


well,

all what you said make sense

My only advice for you is to leave him alone and focus on your faith

The bible says judge not

That does not mean we should not be wise and be able to decipher

Only at the end, we will know who is who

I'm out!

I can't leave his kind alone. Why? Because the Bible says we should expose them.

Ephesians 5:11 KjV
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

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