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lanrexlan: To the creation of the earth and heavens.Heavens and the Earth created in 6days.I do agree that the Quran says that the heavens and the earth were created in 6 days i.e. 6 epochs and it is mentioned in Surah Al A'raf 7:54,Surah Yunus 10:3,Surah Hud 11:7 Surah Al Furqan 25:59, Surah Al Sajdah 32:4 Surah Qaf 50:38 as well as in Surah Al Hadid 57:4.The verses of the Qur'an which according to many non-muslims say that the heavens and the earth were created in 8 days are Surah Fussilat 41:9-12 "Say:Is it that you deny Him Who created the earth in 2 days? And do you join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds; He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm,High above it,and bestowed blessings on the earth,and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, In 4days equal,in accordance with (the needs of)Those who seek (sustenance)." Moreover,He Comprehended in His design the sky,and it had been(as)smoke.He said to it and to the earth."Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly.They said:"We do come (Together),in willing obedience." So He completed them as 7 firmaments in 2days and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command and We adorned the lower heaven with lights,and (provided it) with guard.Such is the decree of (Him) the exalted in might,full of knowledge." [Al-Quran Surah Fussilat 41:9-12]
On the face of it,it seems that these verses of the Quran give the initial impression that the heavens and the earth were created in 8days.Summa means moreover.If you analyse these verses carefully,it speaks about 2 different creations:the earth and the heaven.The earth excluding the mountains was created in 2days and the mountains were set on the earth standing firm and blessed and measured its sustenance in 4days. Therefore the earth along with the mountains was created in 6 days according to verse 9 and 10.Verse 11 and 12 says,moreover the heavens were created in 2 days.The Arabic word used in the beginning of verse 11 of Surah Fussilat is summa which means;'then' or 'moreover'.There are certain Qur'anic translations,which have used 'then' for the word summa which,indicates 'afterwards'.If 'then' is wrongly used for summa then the total of the creation of heaven and earth will be 8 days which will conflict with other verses of the Quran which says heavens and earth were created in 6 days and will also conflict with the Big Bang Theory as well as the verse of the Qur'an Surah Al ANBIYA 21:30 which says that heavens and the earth were created simultaneously.Therefore the correct translation of the word summa in this verse would be 'moreover'.Abdullah Yusuf Ali has rightly translated the word summa or moreover which clearly gives an indication that while the earth along with the mountains, etc. was created in 6 days simultaneously the heavens were created in 2days.Therefore the total does not come to 8days but 6days.As the earth was created in two days,the heavens too were created simultaneously with earth in that two days.Not different two days,then mountains were set on earth 4days,then it gives a total of 6days not 8days.Some people thought that the earth was created in a separate two and heavens in another separate two days,but it's wrong.Both were created simultaneously in two days,hope that clarifies that....Peace

lanrexlan: Brother,I have explained your time claim.The answer to the muslim.You don't even give the
quotations the word used in the quran was 'Mumineen' meaning
'a believer' not 'Muslim'.And if we analyse every prophet is the first believer to
the people they were sent to,why?Because they will be the first
person to believe in the oneness of Allah before spreading the
message to the people,so none can call himself a believer before
his prophet because the prophet will be the first to believe,Allah
communicate with prophets on a higher level than other
humans.So the quran saying moses(pbuh) was the first believer
or adam(pbuh) was the first believer or muhammed(pbuh) was
the first believer is not wrong at all,if you don't understand the
quran,that doesn't mean the quran is wrong,hope that answers
your question....Peace

Mintayo: And u have forgotten ur arabs brothers conspiracy against the Israeli...but no matter how much they try; they will be defeated with or without d americans!
Instead of them to work on how they will make life better for their citizens(ur brothers) they are busy fighting with Israel....but i am not surprised!

alnaijiri: I know Muslim Igbo brothers who live in Igboland and it is for them that God will make Igboland Islamic.

alnaijiri: God willing, may the minarets rise above and the prayer calls of the muezzins echo through Igboland! Enugu will have a very big mosque where the churches are now. Only then will that defiled land be brought to the light.

God willing that these changes are not brought by the sword or the suffering of the innocents but by the miraculous change of heart of these Igbo infidels. So they would humble themselves to the faithful un order to learn and follow the ways of the Almighty God.

tintingz: Read how our christian brothas are debating about the trinity concept... True or false?

So many more... Me just dey watch dey laugh! https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing011.gif

tintingz: Reading the Old testament bible is scary... Slavery, carnibalism, wars all authorize by Jehova whose name doesnt even exist in new testament bible https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing011.gif

Brotha lanrexlan well done o... I just dey feel you, troway salute! https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing014.gif

lanrexlan: Brother,see your words you said ''WHAT's THE USE OF THE SUN WITHOUT HEAT AND LIGHT?''
That's means if we compare with trinity,then it will read ''WHAT's THE USE OF THE FATHER WITHOUT THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST?''
That means God can't exist without the son and holy ghost(Subuhanallah).Brother,heat and light are products of the sun and they aren't equivalent to the sun i.e. Heat isn't the sun and light isn't the sun.But trinitarians do claim all these three-the father,the son and the holy spirit are the same i.e. The father is the son,the son is the holy spirit and the father is the holy spirit.If we are to compare with the sun,then the son and the holy spirit should be the products of the father,not the FATHER himself.Unfortunately,christians claim all these are one,they always sing a song the song goes thus;'JESUS,YOU ARE MIGHTY GOD YOU ARE MIGHTY GOD''.So this signifies jesus(the son)is also the father(God) and this against the theory of sun,hope I have made myself clear,i don't understand and comprehend a fabrication,a concoction.God is one and doesn't dwell in anyone,not changing to anything....Peace

lanrexlan: Brother,where in the Quran does it says that the bible has been in existence before the creation of the earth? I need references,maybe you have visited your anti-islamic sites again.I may not be a scholar,but I am student of comparative religions.....Peace

lanrexlan: Brother,if trinity is so important in Christianity,why doesn't jesus(pbuh) preached about it? It's a concept that was introduced 300years after the death of christ(pbuh).None of his disciples believed in trinity,jesus(pbuh) preached only one God,but they have brainwashed you sha with that concept of trinity.In 1991,the pope that just resign in recent put forward that your bible should be re-written,and mary(pbuh) should be included in the three to become four people in one,ha so absurd.If trinity has been something that has basis in christianity,why would the pope suggested mary(pbuh)should be added.It's just a fabrication,a concoction.I wonder what they would called it if the suggestion was taken in,QUADRANT[b/]Lolz.....Peace

Let me ask you a question - Did the "Lost Injeel" have the Godhead in it? Trying to explain the Trinity to you is almost like imagining a plastic glass

I gave you an example of an ATOM - you understood that concept yet [b]BRANCHED OFF

lanrexlan: Haha,who understands it? I can never comprehend a fabrication,a concoction.Just made an analysis of what you put forward.Make proper analysis before comparing things,GOD IS ONE not THREE IN ONE...peace

lanrexlan: Brother,haha where's the proof that the bible existed before the creation of the world? The bible and the Quran don't contradict on the concept of God,they may contradict on other things.It's your church teachings and your bible that contradicts on the concept of God.The bible said there's only one God but they have brainwashed you in your church with 3-in-1 concept of God.We aren't fools bro,do you believe in historical precedent now? And you told me not to use that to proof JIHAD,the reasons while verses were revealed using the seerah of the prophet.....Peace

lanrexlan: Haha,here you are alexis with rubbish to prove trinity that never exist in your bible.The other time I dismantled your water claim,now it's atom.Reason before making comparison.
Atom is made up of three particles-proton,neutron and electron,so God can also exist in 3 persons-Father,son and holy ghost?.Brother,if one particle of the atom is lost there's nothing like atom again.If neutron is lost,no atom now tell me is holy ghost or the son are lost,there won't God-the father anymore?
You even use Human being body,soul and spirit,brother that's composition of man.Without body,soul and spirit can't live.Now tell without Son and Holy ghost,the Father can't live,don't you know God is forever? The absolute,the eternal,he doesn't need anyone to be part of him.
Just curious.....Peace

talk2me006: i can see !
is like u havnt take ur breakfast.

guy! be patient, all ur post will be dealt with accordinly. your yansh will be exposed as usual ;

so u are igbo.
no wonder

talk2me006: interesing
taking my breakfast with hot cofee and bread
i cant stop laughing with these people.
keep them coming , your yansh will be exposed one by one. i promise !

just let me come bak and charge my laptop.

AbdH: Question should be: Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko haram were demented crusaders?
Answer would be: NO! Northern Nigeria would have been worse.

Proffdada: So far i think boolean logic is too complicated for your prokaryotic brain atleast you know 1x1x1=1

lanrexlan: Brother talktome,leave these people alone with their brainwashed trinity,the word that never exist in the bible.Imagine,after I quoted more than 5verses of the glorious quran where it confirms the a party of the people of scriptures(Jews and Christians)threw away a good part of their scripture.But it's like your eyes are blind,you can't see your brain is sealed,you can't reason and your ears are blocked,you will never hear the word of Allah......Peace.

Proffdada: ur stupidity always precedes you no matter how much colorful examples are given and u hv not been taking ur meds
Analogies are ways u compare things of which you know to the unknown. Jesus Christ used a lotta analogies known as parables but dumb nitwits like u can never comprehend. I bet it's someone that is helping u to translate this thread

AbdH: Trinity has to be the most lucrative fraud of all time. Thanks be to Allah, we could have been swept off our feet by such preposterous doctrines as yours. You better seek God and stop confusing yourself and us.

Proffdada: You still don't get it, but i'll help you: you see as humans we tend to judge by the perception of our five senses but the spirit is what discerns beyond these, therefore God exists in three persons as you can analogize as three states of matter but unlike matter each one still exist within transition. I hope this explaination is noy too much for your primitive brain. God was,is and forever is One

talk2me006: mr bolean! relax.

# SO U MEAN , U CANT PROVIDE A CONCRETE ANSWER FOR TRINITY (1+1+1=1)?

# MUST YOU CONTINUE TO REMAIN IN ILLUSION AFTER JESUS AND PROPHET MUHAMMED EXPLAIN GOD FOR U?

# DOES JESUS U CLAIM U ARE FOLLOWING(WHICH I KNOW U DID NOT) DESCRIBE GOD WITH BOLEAN PRINCIPLE?
# MUST YOU BE PERMANENTLY BRAINWASHED WITHOUT DOING YOUR PERSONAL RESEARCH AND KNOW THE TRUTH.

MAN ! DONT USE UR ANUS TO REASON NOW.


READ THIS AGAIN:

read this:
Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:


From the above verse,did jesus confuse diciples with bolean to explain oneness of GOD?

read this also:

"Say: He is Allah,

The One and Only.

"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.

"He begets not, nor is He begotten.

And there is none like unto Him."

[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4].

From the verses i quoted above; is there any confusion to know that God is ONE?
did they used bolean principle to explain the oneness of GOD.


now for you to not answer my question above , then i can say ur intelligence equal to that of cockroach not like pebble.


PEACE...........

talk2me006: lol! mr bolean!

well, i can see! you did not back ur points with proofs, so as usual i will count you as ignorant and confused fellow who have been brainwashed to the extent that he cant even reason with his brain but anus.

peace........

Proffdada: So the Gospel that was judiciously protected over ages through blood sweat n tears is corrupted but the revelation to an idolatorer in a demonic cave at hira is ur own truth, how sick can u get?

talk2me006: SO U BELIEVE IN 1+1+1=1 ( WAT A CONFUSED gods)

can u please explain ur own method to explain trinity better?

i want to see another method funny than that of bolean principle or is your own method is De broglie atomic structure principle! or i should open another thread to ask that as u told me other time?

talk2me006

Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko Haram were Evangelical Christians?.

BOKO HARAM AND EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS [b]WILL BOTH CAUSE DAMAGES [/b]TO NOTHERN PART OF NIGERIA.

Boko aram are killing many innocent people( both christians and muslims).

i personally witness one sheik killed by boko aram just becos the sheik asociate them with non muslim.


ALSO , Evangelical christian will done damages to the northern part of nigeria by constantly
brainwashing people with their trinity syndrome. they will not talk about nothing less than the
worldly affair and promising of quick money ; they will filled the mind of our youth for wordly things to the extent that they will even forget heaven existence; they will preach many things that jesus (pbuh) doesnt preach As this is wrong, it is not just a plain waste of time and preventing people to not know the true GOD but also make them worshiping a confused gods( trinity).

IN CONCLUSION:WITH THE POINTS ABOVE, NORTHERN PART OF NIGERIA AND ALL OTHER PLACE WILL NEVER BE A SAFER/BETTER AREA UNDER THE REGIME OF BOTH BOKO ARAM INSURGENT AND CHRISTIAN ENVAGENLISM.

How many days did Allah create the world

AS YOU CAN SEE I DIDNT DODGE YOUR QUESTION AND I DIDNT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS, ALSO I DIDNT JUMP TO ANOTHER TOPIC LEAVING THE PRESENT TOPIC DISCUSSING.IF YOU DARE JUMP TO ANOTHER TOPIC AGAIN WITHOUT FINISHING PRESENT ONE I WILL NOT ASNWER YOU AGAIN AND COUNT YOU CONFUSED AS USUAL.
NOW WOULD YOU PLEASE COMPLETE THE QUESTION I ASKED U OTHER TIME OR I SHOULD ASSUMED THAT YOU HAVE FAILED IT ALREADY OR I SHOULD ASSUME THAT THE QUESTION SURPASS UR INTELLINGENT OR I SHLD ASK U NEW LESSER QUESTION WHICH WILL FIT U WELL.

TarryFour: This page said 'To avoid being banned, please ensure that your post is not offensive to ANY religion' A message and video was posted here about islam and within minutes it has been pulled down. Yet so many posts on the same page denigrade the Christian faith and casts aspersions on christianity and even questioned its authenticity, and nothing clearly seems to be wrong with that.
The question is: who is this allah that is always afraid and become jittery whenever any truth is being presented about him. when would muslims learn the truth about their god? A muslim man was recently sent to his mallam to ask him about some disturbing truths he discovered when reading the koran on his own -just after watching the video but the mallam told him that 'only allah knows that!' If allah truly knows it why didn't the allah reveal it to the mallam?

olamkas: seems like you are a hard hearted man. despite all the explanations and references given,you still come back to say old stories. don't toy with hereafter.
better give up pride and humble yourself before GOD that you might not perish

AbdH: Brother, you need to stop asking this question because you have been answered.

vedaxcool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army



More terrorism from Christians read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Ignorance is not an excuse to yap rubbish in a public forum! thank you

E.O.D