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PoliticsRe: Michael Oluwatobi Adebowale Is The 2nd Woolwich Suspect by alexis(m): 11:44am On May 24, 2013
abes: You still don't get it, do you?
In both cases, murder was committed and all men involved are British. In one of the cases, two men shouted 'Allah' and killed one army officer, in the other case, one man did not shout anything but killed two female police officers.

Does the fact that 'Allah' was not shouted in one case make it a less severe murder case than the other where 'Allah' was shouted? (mind the victims in both cases)

Does the "LAW" defines crime with preference to religious or ethnic background?

Why do you label one a terrorist and the other not a terrorist?
You are narrowly missing my point. Did you watch the youtube videos? Both are terrorism, the cause of concern is the MOTIVE AND INTENT. With one, it's criminal, with another, it is RELIGIOUS. That is the difference.

A thief goes to steal and when he is caught, we judge him by the motivation not his religion.

A white guy shot a black kid in Florida, it was a race issue and not a religious one

A muslims man kills an unarmed soldier and tells us he is doing it because of this faith.

Clearly, you can see the difference!
PoliticsRe: Michael Oluwatobi Adebowale Is The 2nd Woolwich Suspect by alexis(m): 11:10am On May 24, 2013
abes: You and the lunatic poster you quoted have something in common, and that is 'hate' for a set of people, the lunatic poster has hate for people not from his ethnic background, and you have hate for people not from your religious background.
I must have pressed the wrong button huh. Please show me where the man that killed the female officers did so shouting Allah or in Allahs name? Your confusion is the difference when something is religious than when it is criminal.

Here is a video showing Michael Adebolajo with Anjem Choudary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VNftQwvsjgw

Digest that, then turn around and re-post

The same muslim cleric refused to condemn the attack and tried to rationalized it and said the act was as a result of British foreign policy - NONSENSE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SXCw9X3vRTs
PoliticsRe: Michael Oluwatobi Adebowale Is The 2nd Woolwich Suspect by alexis(m): 9:53am On May 24, 2013
jamal230: Nigerians all over the world should speak out and condemn the beheading of a citizen yesterday in UK. The beheading was done by a British citizen and not a Nigerian as speculated, his name does not confirm his nationality.

British born Michael 'Mujahid' Adeboloja with an accomplice yesterday beheaded a British Soldier on a street in Woolwich, London. It is now being made to look like Nigeria has "shown itself again" in the action of this British boy who beheaded a soldier yesterday

This lunatic was born in the United Kingdom, never been to nigeria, issued a birth certificate in the UK and held a British passport. He now commits a barbaric act and suddenly he is now a Nigerian?

Is it because he is not Gabriel Agbonlahor playing for Aston Villa and Three Lions, or Andrew Osagie, UK's reigning 800m champion, or Lawrence Okoye, British Discus Record Holder (68.24m), or Abiodun oyepitan, British Olympic Silver and Gold Medalist, or Christine Ohuruogu, Beijing Olympic British Gold Medalist, or Eniola Aluko, British Olympic Female Football star, or Temi Fagbenle British Olympic Basketball queen, or several other thousands of British citizens with Nigerian connection who are making the country proud.

Nigeria should just be left out of this neo-colonial agenda. Please pass on to educate the ignorant ones! Nigeria!! Great Nation!!! Great People
If his name was Jerome Davis and he was black - we wouldn't care where he is from or where is was born. What is appalling is the nature and intention of the way he killed his victim and it's religious connection to Islam.

Here was the guy in 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VNftQwvsjgw

And here is the idiot that helped motivate him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SXCw9X3vRTs
PoliticsRe: Michael Oluwatobi Adebowale Is The 2nd Woolwich Suspect by alexis(m): 9:35am On May 24, 2013
Here is a popular muslim figure in England endorsing the barbaric act

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SXCw9X3vRTs[/flash]
PoliticsRe: Michael Oluwatobi Adebowale Is The 2nd Woolwich Suspect by alexis(m): 9:31am On May 24, 2013
See one of the attackers in 2007 protesting at a police station in the UK. This will clear all doubt that he was a muslim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VNftQwvsjgw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SXCw9X3vRTs
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 5:30am On May 24, 2013
Proffdada: [size=28pt]REALLY REALLY CONFUSED RELIGION[/size]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/22/woolwich-police-shooting-machete_n_3319793.html
They will say because Saudi students give free roses in the US, it is OK for their brothers in UK to cut off people heads. That is why I like the US, freedom to bear arms. Those idiots would have been shot in the head at the spot
ComputersRe: Cloud Computing by alexis(m): 5:12pm On May 23, 2013
onegig: na so....i was on mobile so i didnt even check the link....Thats where the problem is.

Which company has the infrastructure hoisted here in Naija..i guess none. Most are just resellers .
That is where is the problem is. 9ja has huge internet traffic; if this traffic stayed only in Nigeria, it will create another new market that would create jobs and innovation.
IslamRe: Aisha (RA) Married The Prophet (PBUH) At Age Nine. So What? by alexis(m): 12:00pm On May 23, 2013
dexmond: Tank alexis, kindly go ahead and provide references backing your claims.
Narrated Aisha:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234)

If anyone disputes this Hadith, please provide proof
ComputersRe: Cloud Computing by alexis(m): 11:55am On May 23, 2013
onegig: I cant speak on specifics but there are companies offering such services. If their platforms are hosted in Nigeria is another story entirely as most may just be branches but got a link from a friend when i asked him more.

https://www.signalalliance.com/
I know there are companies offering such services, no doubt about that. Their are alot of Nigerian companies offering web hosting and domain registration but all they do is resell the same from their upstream providers in the US.

So, if the cloud back-bone is in the US, then all traffic from 9ja will be going all the way to servers in the US. I looked up the company and basically they are reselling Microsoft Office 365 as their flag-ship cloud platform.

It will be interesting to get some matrix from the major ISPs in Nigeria and see what will happen if traffic stayed only in Nigeria than going out to the Internet.
IslamRe: Scientific Miracles from the Quran by alexis(m): 11:35am On May 23, 2013
miftaudeen: The Fly and Healing

Scientists have proved that the outer face of the fly contains antibiotics and this discovery is very recently, but the Prophet peace be upon him referred to this in his words: (If a fly falls into the drink of anyone, he should dip it then remove it, as there is a disease in one of its wings and a cure in the other).

The Hadith:

Al-Bukhari and Ibn-Magah narrated that Abu-Horaira said that the Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him said: (If a fly falls into the drink of anyone, he should dip it then remove it, as there is a disease in one of its wings and a cure in the other).

The explanation of Hadith:

This Hadith includes a notification from the Prophet peace be upon him about a scientific issue concerning the wing of the fly as the Prophet confirmed that there is a cure in its wing. He also mentioned that the fly that we consider a storehouse for epidemics and diseases, inside it there is cure. And that this cure gets out through dipping the fly in the liquid.

In the modern era, scientists have found through their laboratory experiments on flies that it actually contains antibiotics and they are substances that kill harmful bacteria. And they also found that the best way to extract these antibacterial substances is to dip the fly into the liquid.



The point of inimitability:

From this Hadith, it was shown that the fly carries on one of its wings the cure. And this is a scientific fact that wasn't known except from only one or two years, but the Prophet peace be upon him referred to this fact in his words: (as there is a disease in one of its wings and a cure in the other). And this is from the signs of prophecy of Mohammad peace be upon him. And this Hadith confirms that He doesn't say anything from himself.
Photo: The Fly and Healing Scientists have proved that the outer face of the fly contains antibiotics and this discovery is very recently, but the Prophet peace be upon him referred to this in his words: (If a fly falls into the drink of anyone, he should dip it then remove it, as there is a disease in one of its wings and a cure in the other). The Hadith: Al-Bukhari and Ibn-Magah narrated that Abu-Horaira said that the Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him said: (If a fly falls into the drink of anyone, he should dip it then remove it, as there is a disease in one of its wings and a cure in the other). The explanation of Hadith: This Hadith includes a notification from the Prophet peace be upon him about a scientific issue concerning the wing of the fly as the Prophet confirmed that there is a cure in its wing. He also mentioned that the fly that we consider a storehouse for epidemics and diseases, inside it there is cure. And that this cure gets out through dipping the fly in the liquid. In the modern era, scientists have found through their laboratory experiments on flies that it actually contains antibiotics and they are substances that kill harmful bacteria. And they also found that the best way to extract these antibacterial substances is to dip the fly into the liquid. The point of inimitability: From this Hadith, it was shown that the fly carries on one of its wings the cure. And this is a scientific fact that wasn't known except from only one or two years, but the Prophet peace be upon him referred to this fact in his words: (as there is a disease in one of its wings and a cure in the other). And this is from the signs of prophecy of Mohammad peace be upon him. And this Hadith confirms that He doesn't say anything from himself.
You know you are funny right. You are basically saying whatever disease a fly carries in one of it's wings, it has the cure in it's other wing - CAN YOU PROVE THIS SCIENTIFICALLY?

Before I debate you on this, I will like you to respond
ComputersRe: Cloud Computing by alexis(m): 11:27am On May 23, 2013
onegig: It would interest you to know some companies in nigeria now offer cloud computing it's just that its limited and expensive. We still have a long way to go because most basic infrastructure that would make it work effectively are non existent. Even 3g networks being touted are useless and damn slow.
Is the cloud platform hosted in Nigeria. If it is, I am interested in testing their services. Please advise
IslamRe: Aisha (RA) Married The Prophet (PBUH) At Age Nine. So What? by alexis(m): 11:19am On May 23, 2013
dexmond: You did not quote your sources, this makes everything you said to be conjectures, they are not to be taken serious.
I wonder how it clarifies anything without any reference or sources. As a matter of correction, she was 6 when he married her and consummated the marriage at 9. I will gladly provide references from muslim holy books if requested.

What OP fail to understand is when Mohammed first wife was alive, she never married any other women. It was after Khadija death that Mohammed went on a marrying spree.
IslamRe: Two Men Hack Soldier To Death In London by alexis(m): 11:06am On May 23, 2013
tbaba1234: First of all, this is an act of criminality and does not represent us.

As regards, stopping extremists, this , I am afraid is impossible with the US foreign policy. This is the fuel to the fire. It is the marketing tool. What a militant fails to do for years, one drone strike on a village will do for him in an instant. The iraqi war did more to build support for these groups than any action. I have a friend whose uncle was murdered by US troops in iraq, he was not a combatant. This friend is an american citizen because he was born in America. It is not easy to deal with. Not to talk, of other atrocities committed by soldiers, things that we never hear on the news.

To say, ' Muslims are silent' is a cliche that is absolutely inaccurate.Mention a mainstream muslim speaker and you will find a write-up or video where he condemns terrorism.

To destroy support for these groups, we need to reduce the marketing materials they have.
You are the same guy that blamed the Boston bombing on American foreign policy. What has this terrible crime in London got to do with America now? Why wasn't it a buddist that committed the crime?

It's amazing how you side-step the topic at hand and drive off into denial.

A majority of muslims are peaceful people. They want to get along with their lives and raise their kids. Most of these muslims are educated with western values. The "radicals" as you like to call them use the same Quran every other muslim reads so you have to tell us how they are been radicalized.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 12:44pm On May 21, 2013
Proffdada: i'm back from the [size=19pt]CYBERTERRORISM[/size] the OP is practising cuz the truth is bitter
grin grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: JAMBS Post Video Of Hostages’ Bodies by alexis(m): 5:45am On May 21, 2013
ehissi: @all... If there is one thing that I know that any one should take away from this debate whether you be a Christian or a muslim - and at this point I am convinced that you will have to be a blind fanatic, Christian or muslim to disagree - and that is the fact that Muslim's from their general conduct are generally hostile or easily given to violence when the issue of their religion is raised (whether it be criticism or slight offence deliberate or accidental) and it is a thing of worry to the whole world!! As a Child growing up, I was almost mobbed when I accidentally used my shoe to step into a praying ground - I had never known what islam meant - and no one even offered to explain to me what I had done wrong (and believe me I count myself lucky that it happened in Lagos; I guess I would have long have joined my ancestors if it were in Zamfara or gombe such had happened)!!
What is even more worrisome is that when they raise chaos everybody demands for peace , calm and dialogue (even when people are killed)!! As a child whenever I heard of killings in the North I always wondered why it was never seen as murder simply because a muslim felt offended at something someone did (even if it were in ignorance). They say God is merciful yet they show none!! They say it teaches peace, yet some of today's most bloody wars are centred around wars that God supposedly sent them to wage ( as though God's hand is too short to punish offenders or too feeble to wage war)!! In effect by their conduct they declare God incapable of taking action himself towards Sin or offence yet he made man!! This is confusion and God is not the author of confusion!! As for my Christian fella's, I must say that what I find appalling amongst them is that sometimes they are not bold in their profession ( a sign of a mind difficult to renew). They are admit they are not under jewish law but agree that a man who doesn't tithe is cursed; they admit they are Son's like Jesus but can be bound and need deliverance like daniel, they believe that faith is important but would rather be in church only on sunday tha attend a bible study during the week!! I find it an interesting puzzle!!! I wonder what God would have to say about it right now #just thinking aloud#
Nice thoughts mate, nice thoughts smiley
PoliticsRe: JAMBS Post Video Of Hostages’ Bodies by alexis(m):
ehissi: I can tell U (now note that I am telling you this as a practicing born-again christian who has read portions of the qoran and lots of history books and lots of the bible born in a christian home) that the qoran actually commands all muslims to live in peace among people (irrespective of their religion) who do not question/bar them from practicing islam (a priviledge mohammed never had - that is a place to peacefully practice).; hence the need to fight; the history books actually show that mohammed lost muslim brothers and sisters to starvation because in his home city it was agreed among the clans that no one will trade nor sell food to mohammed and those who believed he heard from a God he couldn't see (which was definitely going to put a hole in the pockets of those who forged/made the images of the gods which they could see). So the need to host a jihad (which he had to hear from God to declare). The problem lies in the interpretation of qoran as proposed by the Hadith and the random interpretation of Jihad and the random interpretation of "question/bar from practicing islam", muslims are also taught by the qoran to walk (with restraint and humility) the fine line that the laws of the land gives in such a way that the qoran/allah's laws are not disobeyed e.g.The qoran does not specify an age that a girl can be given out for marraige so far its done in line with islamic laws. This is however not an excuse for Senator Yerima to marry a 12year old girl ( a clear violation of Nigerian law) and claim that since he didn't sin against allah, he cannot be prosecuted for obeying his religion. If U must marry, exercise restraint and wait until She is 18 then marry her.

We christians are a major favourite of fundametalist and radical muslims for bombings and attacks for one major reason (The trinity)!! The qoran also states for the benefit of all who listen that there is one God and one God alone - a death knell for major proposers of the trinity (the idea of three persons in one God; who by the way are Christians) - what they (muslims) fail to realise is that that scripture was a response to a theory raised by a heathen culture that stated that God almighty got married to venus, had a wonderful sex life and gave birth to Christ ( a mixture of Greek mythology and Christianity that was designed to ensure the relevance of the worship of venus - a major source of intimacy.u.a.l perversion and intimacy.u.a.l related crime in those days) that is also why the Hadith now records that any suggestion that God ( or Allah as muslims call him) presented himself in a human form or any attempt to "humanise God" should be regarded as "Shirk" -Sin- God can never take the low and corrupted form of a man ( principles that revelations in Christianity now teach concerning Jesus Christ; hence the reason why most christians are the preferred target practice for radical islamist)!!

But just as some Christians in the name of the fear of the Lord will be afraid to speak against revered elders in the Christian faith when something may appear to be done wrong in the name of not speaking against God's servant/annoited so also muslims are afraid of speaking openly against their own elders especially when certain sensitive issues are discussed - the most sensitive of all being the introduction of Sharia; which is seen by some as building a caliphate of Spiritual foundation's whose leader/king is God almighty- allah as he is called in arabic - and only his law ruling the land and in time extending his dominion on the face of the earth!!! When this is discussed everybody isn't quite sure what next to say next lest they be found to be opposing God's rule and be wrongly declared as committing major "Shirk" or "Haram"!! c
I am FIRST a human being before I am a practitioner of any religion. If muslims have a problem interpreting their Quran, then the author of the Quran didn't do a very good job in explaining it and conveying what he meant. I have said this and will always say it - YOU CAN BELIEVE IN A STONE, DON'T THROW IT AT OTHERS..

CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN ONE GOD. If the concept of GodHead/Trinity is confusing to muslims - they should ask for education and not kill innocent people because of their beliefs.

Must it always be "muslims" that has problem interpreting their Quran?
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 3:47pm On May 19, 2013
lanrexlan & tintingz

Is it true that Mohammed was a caravan robber? Did he kill anyone is any of his attacks?

tintingz - Abeg, don't cook up some concussion and said Jesus was a robber too and a murderer as well. because we know you are good at it. Leave Jesus out of the picture and please answer the above.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 2:34am On May 19, 2013
tintingz

See your kins-folk chopping each other hearts:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22521161

Are these muslims not reading the Quran. Muslims shouldn't fight each other. Later, you would open your mouth here and tell us about the Quran and it's teachings. Syria tearing itself apart, Iraq doing the same - all through sectarian strife. If they all believed in the same Quran, why the fight?

Your brothers in Northern Nigeria are robbing banks - reminds me of some that used to rob caravans in 7th century arabia smiley. Ali baba and the 40 thieves smiley
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 10:16pm On May 18, 2013
lanrexlan: Subhanallah brother,glorify and exalted is our LORD far above all the evils that associated with him.Just fed up with their claims......Peace
Your god that doesn't know how many days he created the world?
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 10:15pm On May 18, 2013
tintingz: [size=17pt]Confusion Part2[/size] grin grin grin

GOD BEGOT DAVID IN OT BIBLE ---> AND HE BEGOT ANOTHER SON IN NT BIBLE ---> AND HE IS THE ONLY BEGGOTEN SON OF GOD AFTER HE HAD MANY SONS BEFORE? huh

Christians are so CONFUSED when did God turn to a baby papa? Subhannallah!!
You are ignoring basic comprehension and trying to distort the same bible you claim is "Corrupt".
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 4:59pm On May 18, 2013
lanrexlan: Mister,you have big faults.Why giving yourself the title begotten[/b]in order to cover your flaws.Nowhere in the bible does it call christians the [b]BEGOTTEN SONS OF GOD.But you said that in order to argue that david is not BEGOTTEN.I have no problem If you call yourself Son of GOD,but brother BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD is wrong.Your problem is that you don't wanna admit you are wrong,that's one thing about you.The word BEGOTTEN appears in the KJV bible only twice,my question is direct If Jesus is the ONE AND ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD,then the word BEGOTTEN shouldn't be used for another person except Jesus who's the ONE AND ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.But the word BEGOTTEN was used for david,that's my point.If you can't answer,then forget about it.I don't who's blind and confused now.In Islam,we don't comprehend baseless points.....Peace
Dude - I have pointed out the difference between BEGOTTEN AND ONLY BEGOTTEN. No other person/character in the Bible is the ONLY BEGOTTEN of God except Jesus. So, twist it how much you want - it doesn't change the fact that Jesus if the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD.

John 3:16 === For God so loved the world, that he gave his [size=15pt]only begotten Son[/size], that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

Psalms 2: 7 === I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

You will have to be blind to see that BEGOTTEN and ONLY BEGOTTEN have two different meanings.

I rest my case. In between, can you explain a subject to me in Isalm. The Surah of Succession!
PoliticsRe: A Thread For The Troops. by alexis(m): 8:48pm On May 17, 2013
illitrate: smiley
Are those MIGs?
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 7:57pm On May 17, 2013
tintingz: what will you say to the conflicts between catholics and protestants grin Mohammed(as) preached Islam as it was practiced before him

Because of their constant defiance and blasphemy of GOD Almighty's Divine and Holy Words, some Jews were transformed into swines and apes during Prophet Moses (as) times
Really, that is your response to muslims killing themselves in Syria and Iraq? Why isn't it eastern Nigeria or southern Nigeria that the Nigerian army is in clearing out Islamic muslims faithfuls like your brothers Boko Haram?

Jews are swines huh, lol. No wonder not one arab country comes close to Israel in the Middle East. The have used their ingenuity to propel themselves into a good and stable country. All your arab brothers shout and complain and haven't done anything for themselves. You are here shouting they are swines.

No be jewish woman posion ya prophet? A whole prophet succumbed to death from the same people he called swines. Go figure!
PoliticsRe: 3 Soldiers, Gunmen Killed In Daura Attack – Army by alexis(m): 7:18pm On May 17, 2013
chidindufrank: Maybe dropping atomic bomb in the north wil solve this problem.
How can a human being suggest such?
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 5:10pm On May 17, 2013
lanrexlan: So Brother,you are also a 'begotten son' nowhuh?? See your words

as opposed to believers who are God's sons and
daughters through faith
.
Don't misuse that word 'begotten' bro,my question is very straightforward,if Jesus is ONE AND ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,then the word BEGOTTEN shouldn't be used for any other person again in the bible.But God said HE BEGOT DAVID,meaning david is also a begotten son.That's a contradiction then.....Peace
Man - people can be confused oh! I don't even know how to address you any-more; lol. In someways, I don't blame you. The president of Nigeria has the same problem with some muslims. That is why the army is in parts of the North now. You guys say one thing and does another.

I am a son of God - alexis is begotton of God, I am not the ONLY BEGOTTEN of God. I am NOT the ONE and ONLY of God. I wasn't with God when he made the heavens and earth. I wasn't with God when he spoke the world into existence. THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD WAS WITH HIM - JESUS THE CHRIST.

I am a creature, I was made, I was begotten as a son of God through adoption and not by inheritance. JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN, HE WASN'T MADE. HE MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS HUMAN AND TOOK THE ROLE AS A SON.

Islam is spiritual so you can't see such basic Christian beliefs. Your prophet and even your Allah can't understand it. That is why the God in the Bible and your Allah are different. Imagine you teaching me about my faith, you tell me that Christians holy book is corrupt but you quote from the same corrupt book to make your twisted point.

Na wa oh!
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 11:21am On May 17, 2013
lanrexlan: I never in any posts said david was the only begotten son fo God.You said ''BEGOTTEN IS A TRANSLATION AND IT SIMPLY MEANS ONE AND ONLY ONE''.Then I said the same word 'begotten' was used for david in psalms 2;7,if your begotten means the above for jesus christ,then it applies to both jesus and david.....Peace
Oga, we are not in an English class - neither are we trying to comprehend semantics. John 3:16 and Psalms 2:7 are talking about two different characters and the relationship God has with each

JESUS - ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD OR ONE AND ONLY SON OF GOD
DAVID - BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD OR SON OF GOD
ALEXIS - BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD OR SON OF GOD

If you are confuse, take the KJV and NIV version. It will make it clear to you.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 10:58am On May 17, 2013
lanrexlan: I never in any posts said david was the only begotten son fo God.You said ''BEGOTTEN IS A TRANSLATION AND IT SIMPLY MEANS ONE AND ONLY ONE''.Then I said the same word 'begotten' was used for david in psalms 2;7,if your begotten means the above for jesus christ,then it applies to both jesus and david.....Peace
Here are your words:

If jesus was GOD's one and only begotten son,there shouldn't be any other person called Begotten son,but david was called that.We may have sons of God as you explained,but not any other begotten son if jesus was to be one and only.Hope you understand the meaning of 'one and only'?.....Peace
Your comment above clearly suggest that you said DAVID WAS ALSO CALLED THE ONLY BEGOTTON OF GOD. Please tell us where you got that from in the Bible.

Psalms 2:7 said David was begotton of God - it never said he is the ONLY BEGOTTON of GOD.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 10:40am On May 17, 2013
lanrexlan: Brother,If KJV and NIV concur jesus is one and only one son,they also concur david is one and only one son.The same word 'begotten' was used in both cases.You have no point bro.The quran is one,the arabic is the same.Where's your proof that the first calipha of Islam burnt all the quran in existence then?
Now you agreed we must look at the root of words when translating to another language when trying to prove your begotten,but you never agreed with the word 'summa' when I was proving the creation of the universe.Why the bias mind?.Provide the hebrew bible or greek bible then..........Peace
Please show me where it said David is the ONLY BEGOTTON SON OF GOD
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 10:08am On May 17, 2013
lanrexlan: I never concur to baseless points and lies.These scholars said this word 'begotten' has no basis in the hebrew bible that it was a fabrication by some people,this has nothing to with translations of the bible.The arabic quran is the same throughout the world,no difference.Only translations may be different through the usage of words.That's why you will always see the arabic quran along with its translation.
If jesus was GOD's one and only begotten son,there shouldn't be any other person called Begotten son,but david was called that.We may have sons of God as you explained,but not any other begotten son if jesus was to be one and only.Hope you understand the meaning of 'one and only'?.....Peace
These scholars huh - lol smiley. So, when it comes to supporting your baseless points - YOU BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE. Later, when we talk about Christ deity, you deny the Bible and say it is corrupt - Omo you are funny.

Again, begotten is a translation - it simply means "ONE AND ONLY ONE". So, if the word "Begotten" is in KJV and is not in NIV doesn't make it any less different. Both concur that Jesus is the ONE & ONLY SON of GOD.

Omo, your Quran falls under the same rules - once an original word is translated to another language - you have to understand the genesis of the word. So, your Quran is no different. Your first Caliph burnt the first Qurans that was in circulation - Yusuf Ali Quran is heavily commented, with comments inserted between the Surahs and not even in the foot-notes.

So, you have no point mate. When you read a book - you are reading what the AUTHOR believes - not what a scholar tells you.
PoliticsRe: Northern Elders To Jonathan - You Have Declared War On Northern Nigeria by alexis(m): 9:41am On May 17, 2013
mikeansy: If they are saying that War on Boko Haram is war on North then they are indirectly suggesting that Boko Haram is equal to North.

If the North believes in Boko Haram then they should in clear terms seek the creation of an autonomous region where the values Boko Haram stand for is practised!

But so long as they refuse to do the above then the President has the support of the rest of Nigeria to use all tools within his means to defend the Nation's sovereignty
WELL SAID!
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by alexis(m): 9:34am On May 17, 2013
lanrexlan: Dude,you haven't answer the question,you just give it a try.Why did these christian scholars of the highest eminence throw out the word 'Begotten' from the bible? Read the revised standard version yourself.I wasn't the one that revised the bible,these people did and they agreed begotten is a fabrication,a concoction.They removed that word,aren't they knowledgeable more than you? Secondly,what group of your explanations does david falls into? He was also a begotten son of God(Psalms 2;7),second I think.Should I tell other GOD's first borns in your bible?
I'm not disputing,it's the bible that's saying different things about Him....Peace
So, you by-passed everything I wrote to you and ignored it abi? That proves you concur - no yawa!.

I have explained to you the meaning of "Only Begotton". If the word is absent from one translation and present in another one - Does that make it false? For example - "Only Begotten" is in KJV and the "Only Son" is in NIV. Those that mean they are different - NO!.

The Quran has been translated by many muslims scholars, Yusuf Ali, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Even though the words in several Qurans are not the SAME in most Qurans, the theme is the same.

So, you have no point. - smiley

In regards david - David is/was NOT "THE ONE AND ONLY" OR "ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD". Only Jesus Christ is smiley

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