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maclatunji: Hold on to this question and never let it go.Keep saying the present Bible is Corrupt and never providing PROOF. How come it is only muslims that know where the ORIGINAL Injeel is? If you can't back up your claim, then say so |
talk2me006: the problem you have is that you cant comprehend passage well. well , i will like to teach you if you are ready to learn.Okay - since it is corrupt. Can you provide the Injeel? Please don't say it is lost because you can't claim the bible is corrupt and you don't have the original. Why can't ONE muslim on this WHOLE earth provide the ORIGINAL Injeel? |
tintingz: LolOga - provide the uncorrupted version. Is that too hard a task to ask. Every single muslim I have asked can't answer that question. You made the claim, I am asking you to confirm it. You are ignoring Allahs teaching abi ![]() |
maclatunji: @Bolded, Of course, we say "corrupt" not "evil". Your problem is that you don't assimilate and as such cannot learn.Really - Wikipedia? lol Where in your Quran did it say those books contain fragments of Jesus message? You claimed the Bible is corrupt. I challenged you to provide the ORIGINAL but you didn't answer me and keep going around in circles. I will repeat what your Quran said: Surah 5:47 === Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel. UNTIL YOU CAN PROVE OR PROVIDE THE LOST/ORIGINAL BIBLE - You have no case mate. Your other muslim brothers have suggested: 1. There are two Injeels 2. Some parts of the Corrupted Bible is not corrupted after all 3. The LOST Injeel was thrown away by the Jews & Christians Na wa oh! |
tintingz: Another one...Can you provide a reference or a COPY of the LOST Bible/Injeel please. You have said many times the Bible is Corrupt, that is not new. All you are doing is copying and pasting. Please provide a link to the LOST Injeel if you can. That is the only way you can CONFIRM if the present BIBLE is corrupt. THE VERY SAME QURAN SAID THAT CHRISTIANS SHOULD/MUST JUDGE BY THE GOSPEL - Surah 5:47. That is everything a Christian does should be done using the Bible. Now, muslims say - the Bible is corrupt - We ask them if it is, where is the original version or the lost version. NO MUSLIM ALIVE OR DEAD can give anyone the LOST Bible. So, we ask them - how can you claim something is corrupt when you can't back it up with the original version. They responded - not all part of the corrupt bible is corrupt. Anything in the corrupt bible that agrees with Islam and the Quran is the part that is not corrupt. We find that hard to believe because if a fruit is rotten/bad/corrupt - you can't eat parts of it - the whole fruit is bad. So muslims are going around in circles when you can't provide authoritative proof that Christian Bible is corrupt. We ask that muslims obey Allah in Surah 5:47 [size=15pt]Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein[/size]. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel. We are asking muslims to obey Allah |
tintingz: Even from a christian site... Scholars agreed that the present gospel is not the same as the one Jesus preached during his timeAnd you are yet to give us the ORIGINAL ONE. We ask where it is - you say it is lost and Jews threw it away and what we have now is corrupt. Allah says - All his revelations to Jews, Christians are true. So, is Allah lying? Can any muslim alive or dead show us a reference or copy of the LOST INjeel? |
Mintayo: you are right,they will not c otherwise...wait a minute,which Bible do u wana analyse?the 'original' or the 'lost'@laxtran?I had one to them tell me there are TWO Injeels. I shouted - I wonder if that was the LOST or corrupt one? They conveniently quote the "Corrupted" (thereby affirming they believe in it) Bible but when you present them with the deity of Jesus - they quickly shout and deny it saying it is corrupt ![]() CONFUSION GAL-OUR |
AbdH: Question should be: Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko haram were demented crusaders?Asking question with another question. Not answering the question, evading it and re-affirming the VIOLENCE in Islam. Can you tell us which Crusaders are in Northern Nigeria please. While at it - can you answer the question please ![]() I guess I hit the nail on the head right? ![]() Here is the question again - [size=15pt]Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko Haram were Evangelical Christians?[/size] |
Most muslims don't like us to talk about the raids that Mohammed engineered and took part in. But can muslims deny history. The caravans of Mecca passed by Medina on their way to and from Damascus, full of merchandise and goods. Mohammed and his followers (muslims) would set an ambush for them, quickly robbing and killing the merchants. It is regrettable that the first job Mohammed, the spiritual leader of Islam had in Medina was robbing caravans and killing merchants. Yet NL muslims want us to believe that whenever Mohammed fought, he was defending himself - WE KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE HISTORY SAYS OTHERWISE. Mohammed first raid was known as the raid of Al-Iwa', where he assaulted a camel caravan that belonged to some Quraishis (Reference = See the Life of the Messenger by Imam Muhammed bin Abd Al-Wahab, page 85) The 2nd raid was known as Bawat, where he assaulted a caravan from Mecca led by Umia bin Khalaf, which he succeeded in robbing In the 3rd raid, know as Al-Ashira, a caravan going to Damascus was assaulted by Mohammed and his followers with the intent to rob it only but ended up killing 5 of it's men during the robbery. HOW CAN A PROPHET OF GOD BE ENGAGED IN ARMED ROBBERY AND MURDER?. Does that sound different from Boko Haram or Ansaru? These are just few examples Oh |
lanrexlan: I told you that you can't judge a car by its careless driver,you shouldn't be judging Islam by its followers.If you want to learn about Islam,go study Islam don't study muslims because muslims aren't perfect but Islam is.That is where you and I differ. There seems to be TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY CARELESS DRIVERS IN ISLAM. If Islam was indeed peaceful - why then do some muslims have a HARD-TIME UNDERSTANDING THAT You want me to believe muslims are peaceful based on the teachings of the Quran. To an extent - you are right because some verses in the Quran talks about peace. However, THE SAME QURAN talks about using force in an OFFENSIVE WAY. So, there is a legitimate basis for using violence in your Quran. Otherwise, all muslims would be PEACEFUL. Please show us some proofs about Christians BOMBING Mosques in Northern Nigeria or in any other part of Nigeria. I am interested in seeing that. I asked a simple question - [size=15pt]Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko Haram were Evangelical Christians?[/size] |
lanrexlan: Masha allahu brother,thank you for that you just speak out what's on your mind,you have raised a new point and I appreciate you for that.Should we analyse your bible to prove to you that jesus(pbuh)never claimed divinity and he's a mortal? Peace.I think that would be a good approach. However, no amount of scholarship proof on my side would allow you see otherwise. Let me offer a suggestion - a prominent muslim scholar debated a prominent Christian doctor on this VERY topic. Would you like to review the findings. It is safe to say that both scholars are more versed than both of us - right? |
lanrexlan: Brother,walah this is one thing I hate about you,the above verses you quoted have been thoroughly explained.Just go back and read the explanations if you want the truth...PeaceYou are funny - where did you take the explanation from? The hadith? |
Mintayo: so jihad is found in christainity,budhism,hinduism?? Funny guy...abeg when last did you hear that a budha guy blew up himself in the name of his god?Looked at it this way - Nairaland muslims tells us muslims are peaceful and a loving people. We say OK, I believe you. 30 minutes later, you turn on the TV, another group of muslims just blew up a Church in Nigeria - YOU SAY, WIAT A MINUTES - WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. I THOUGHT MUSLIMS WERE PEACEFUL LOVING PEOPLE? It's like you walk in a store and see a peaceful muslim guy buying Garri, yam and other groceries with his wife and kids. You went in to buy some groceries too. 2 hours later, you turn on the TV and you hear the store was BOMBED by another muslim - WHAT HAPPENED - I AM CONFUSED. [size=15pt]HOW CAN ONE MUSLIM BE TOTALLY "PEACEFUL" AND ANOTHER BE TOTALLY "VIOLENT"[/size]. Am I missing something? |
lanrexlan: Brother,nobody is using the quran to judge the bible,ALLAH(swt)has given us the final instruction manual(quran),a guide for the whole of mankind.We don't need the bible,it's because you christians don't wanna believe in the quran,then at least you believed the bible.Then we prove to you from the book you believed in.You keep side-stepping the fact that Mohammed had an educated secretary. The reason I don't believe in the Quran is because it DENIES THE VERY PRINCIPLE THAT CHRISTIANITY IS BASED ON - THE DEITY OF CHRIST. You want me to believe an uneducated man telling me that Jesus the Christ was a mere mortal and never died? The Quran may be glorious to you - but I find nothing glorious about it. So, you haven't answered my question mate ![]() |
I am throwing this question out there to everyone - both Muslims and Christians alike: [size=20pt]1. Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko Haram were Evangelical Christians?[/size] |
talk2me006: ANOTHER ONE FOR U HERE:Maybe Boko-Haram is reading the Bible then Because they sure aint tired of killing people - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22444417 |
talk2me006: MR MAN! COMPARE YOUR QUOTED QURAN VERSES WITH THE BIBLE VERSES BELOW: AT LEAST I CAN SEE ALLAH IS FORGIVING AND MERCIFUL IN THE QURAN VERSES YOU QUOTED.Let me ask you a simple question assuming the above was true - [b]HOW MANY PEOPLE DID JESUS KILL? Since you have failed to answer my earlier question on which book you are quoting - The Injeel or the corrupt bible |
talk2me006: .Do you read about your prophet life-style at all. He had a secretary (AGAIN, EEE NO FIT READ AND WRITE). That is what amazes me about folks like you - who leave their common sense behind and accept everything the Quran says - whether it makes sense or not. HOW CAN A MAN THAT HAS NO EDUCATION TEACH SOMEONE ELSE OR GIVE SOMEONE ELSE SOMETHING HE DOESN'T HAVE. So, he couldn't read but he MIRACULOUSLY understood every Christian literature and know that Jesus was a mere man. Allah revealed to him that Jesus was born and spake as a baby - does that make sense to you? The Bible was in circulation then - The crucifixion and glory of Jesus was CONFIRMED yet an uneducated man came and said an angel "Gabriel" told him other-wise .NA WA OHHHHHH! |
[quote author=talk2me006][/quote]I wonder how you use your brain at all . Why not research what I said and then intelligently rebuff it instead of offering no challenge whatsoever |
talk2me006: THANK YOU BROS !If Allah is the one that would upload it - why are you implementing Sharia? Why can't your brothers in Northern Nigeria live with others. Why kill a fellow muslim if he leaves the muslim faith? It is true that Islam is a religion of Allah - that is true. It is not my religion. Allah contradicts himself so much in his own Quran. |
talk2me006: OPEN LETTER TO DESIKA,ALEXIS, MINTAYO AND COHow can you use the Quran to judge the Bible - The Bible was present 600 years before the Quran. Let me show you what you are doing: The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, "historical precedent" means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority. Since Islam came along many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Qur'an. When the Bible and The Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Qur'an is in error until it proves itself. Some Muslims violate the principle of historical precedent by asserting that Islam does not have the burden of proof and that the Qur'an judges the Bible. Your Quran is not an authority to prove anything mate - Mohammed received revelations whenever "Gabriel" told him about it. . Imagine an unlettered man teaching Christians and Jews about their own faith. |
lanrexlan: Brother,there's nothing like offensive JIHAD? During the Lifetime of prophet muhammed(pbuh) even after Islam has become victorious,they were still non-muslims in makkah.For example,abu talib and abu jahl,they are were non-muslims and muhammed(pbuh)never kill them.Today,there are over 2millions christians living peacefully in saudi arabia,why don't the government of saudi arabia carried out offensive JIHAD on these people? Don't they know about islam? Brother,boko harams are being used for political reasons,not fighting any JIHAD....PeaceWhy are you playing pretend? Surah (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." Surah (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.". Read those verses very very well. |
maclatunji: These guys keep jumping about like restless birds.And you are yet to show us the LOST Quran. Your brothers have been playing pretend and telling us the Jews and Christians threw them away. Some of them said, there are two Injeels. What are we to believe. lanrexlan said part of the corrupt Bible is not corrupt after all - I MEAN - REALLY! |
talk2me006: MR MAN ! THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND BOKOARAM.The BIG DIFFERENCE is I don't KILL anyone in the name of Allah. I don't want to IMPOSE SHARIA down anyone neck. I don't BLOW up churches and KILL innocent women and children because I was to spread SHARIA. You want to change the Quran BUT YOU CAN'T DENY THE VIOLENCE AND CARNAGE THAT RUNS THROUGH YOUR HOLY BOOK |
tintingz: The True Meaning of "Jihad"Ah - you forgot OFFENSIVE Jihad. The ones that muslims like Boko Haram and Ansaru are using. How did Islam spread to Nigeria - did Usman Dan Fodio preach Islam or forced it down everyone neck |
lanrexlan: They do,I don't deny but seerah also gives explanations and the reasons why verses were been revealed.It's not a must that every quranic verse has an hadith to back it up,you can't see hadith to back then use seerah....PeaceAre you a Sunni or Shia/Shitte? I have always used the Quran and Hadith. Mohammed's life and deeds are recorded in the Hadith and the revelation and recitation is recorded in the Quran. From where come this Seerah?. Can you please refer an online version for us to CONFIRM |
lanrexlan: Brother,he quoted the verse because ALLAH said in the glorious quran in surah Al-IMRAN 3;64-''say O people of the scriptures(Jews and Christians);Let's come to a word that's between us and you,that we worship none but one true God and associate no partners with,we erect not among ourselves lords besides ALLAH,and if they turned away,say;bear witness that we are at least muslims(bowing our will to ALLAh).You can't speak for Him mate. I asked him a DIRECT question - which book is he quoting? The Corrupt Bible of the LOST Injeel? It is either one or the other? I know he is quoting them, I don't don't that - I want to know from which Book He quoted, that is ALL |
lanrexlan: Brother alexis,do you think hadiths are the explanations to the quran? Hadiths are the sayings of the prophet(pbuh),if you want to know the meaning of the quran,then read tafseer or see reasons why verses were revealed in the seerah of muhammed(pbuh)...PeaceThe Hadiths are the TRADITIONS of muslims - They give clearer explanation on the Quran. You are a Muslim - you can't deny that! |
talk2me006: ONE MORE THING:I am Soooooo tempted to answer you ![]() I will ask you first - the verses in Matthew you quoted, are they from the Corrupted Bible or are they from the Injeel that was lost? because if they are corrupted - you shouldn't be using it? So, please tell us where you got those verses from. BECAUSE FROM ALL INDICATION - YOU BELIEVE THOSE VERSES. Once you answer me - I will respond to you |
talk2me006: yes am a follow -follow to a truth.Can't you give any rational explanation of your claims? Aren't you suppose to be a student of the Quran? Do you read it at all? Why are you ALWAYS agreeing with what other people are saying without contributing any references. FELA described you perfectly - Mr. Follow follow follow foooolllow . |
olamkas: you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.submit to the truth b4 it,s too lateWhat truth - To Mohammed teachings and the Quran? Are you well at all? ![]() |
olamkas: you dug a hole for yourself by quoting the verses of the quran.the injeel that was being refered to was in existence during the time of jesus and not the one compiled after him.Another muslim defender. The confusion starts all over . So, based on your explanation - THERE WHERE 2 INJEELS? Wow - muslims sure know their Quran. Please pinpoint using the Quran - the 1st Injeel and the 2nd Injeel.Thanks |
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Keep proving yourself as an inept thinker. #LOL
Infact the gospel of Banarbas and philip as been hiding i read Mary magdalene has her own gospel. That is why God sent the last message the holy Quran to mankind