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bolaino: it's good to have you here on this thread, it's been long I saw you on nairaland, Nobody can describe God because nobody has seen God, jesus is not God, and if jesus really existed he was born of a man, God is neither male nor female, God can be referred to as it, God is the divine consciousness, God is Gnosis, God is the all knowing supreme being, God can take any shape and any form, he sees the future, past and present, words can not totally explain God, as God is a mystery,

Of what use is this god to us?

chrisviral: Why do you and all of your siblings speak for your Father?
Why do you and your siblings fight for your father
Why do you fend for him in old age?
Why do you pray for him!
Why do you run errands for him?

You have no viable points.

if you are comparing your god to his old bedridden father...

ifeness: Its still the same. Bombs or stones,all the same

No it's not.

jesus never met relatives of suicide bomb victims or he would never had uttered such love your enemy nonsense.

bolaino: my conversion was not instantaneous, I'm someone who loved reading books about the occult and occult practices, and I had a spiritual encounter that changed my life forever, you might not believe me, but it doesn't really matter, I know I am speaking the truth and that's what matters to me, I was faced with certain death on different occasions, and anytime I was faced with these terrible situations, it seemed asif I would die, but there was always an unexplainable miracle that would save me, it happened more than three to four times, twice I was in a fatal car accident where I was sitting at the front of the vehicle and all of a sudden the drivers would lose control of the vehicle, it would seem asif someone else was controlling the brakes and steering wheels, but on those two occasions, I was saved from imminent death, I used to be among those people who believed in "seeing is believing" but after witnessing varying near death episodes, I came to a conclusion that God was involved, because prior to that time I had come in contact with entities who told of what would happen to me, it's a long story, but what I have come to realise is experience is the best teacher, you would not believe me until you experienced something similar, but not everybody lives to tell the story of experiencing the above things I mentioned.

demons driving cars! No wonder you had accidents. Their driving instructor is shit.

bolaino, what does it matter that you believe in an inconsequential god? you might as well not believe and still turn out exactly the same.

which scientist said ape was first?

ifeness: Should? I thought you guys were supposed to follow the teachings of Jesus who told you to love like the good Samarithan,and I'm sure it wont change if it were Boko haram. Are you doubting your Jesus's philosophy?

Even if they bomb your wives and family,you must love them....no be so?

there was no bomb in the time of jesus.

that's what they want you to believe.

Please don't ban those black ninjas. They r doing great work.
Ban the pink ones. Too tempting.

if you take your daughter on holiday, it is not kidnap.

MrAnony1: Actually, morals have everything to do with it.


While this may be true (and I am say that it is, I am only granting the possibility), this does not necessarily justify the destruction.

For instance, would you say that it is morally right if everyone in the world gets infected with HIV because some scientists hope that by infecting 7 billion people (the entire world population), they will find the odd person who has the appropriate resilient antibody that may help us cure AIDS? Let us assume that they actually succeed but some 5 billion people died in the process, will the cure for HIV justify the murder of the 5 billion people who were killed to achieve that cure?


This is simply not true because something has to exist first before destruction can occur.


But the point that I and (I think) striktlymi would make is that it is self-evidently wrong to try to minimize destruction of human life by first destroying more human life. Wouldn't you agree?

It is not surprising that you are reasoning like this because you are just a programmed xtian who sees the world in terms of morality, i.e right or wrong. If it's right, we do it. If it's wrong we don't. No matter the consequences. You ignore human capabilities, evolution, and how things actually work.
We Satanists don't reason in terms of morals so asking me if something is morally wrong is tantamount to asking Mary Magdalene if Mac OS is better than Android.
Of course something has to exist first before destruction can occur. But that existence was brought about through destruction. Be it the atheist big bang or your xtian creation. Something was destroyed.
On your last point, I certainly do not agree that it is self-evidently wrong to try to minimize destruction of human life by first destroying more human life. Nature already does it and it doesn't bother you. What scientists are doing for now is simply copying nature. We Satanists believe that it is possible to transcend nature. To be better than nature.
But still on that point, your xtian religion which stems from judaism is a great example of people killing other people in order to survive. From Moses to Joshua, through the Judges and Kings of Israel, judaism killed for survival. Your own god was a jewish rabbi.
George Bush, a devout xtian, ordered the killing of afghans and iraqis in order, according to him, to prevent further killing of western humans.
Many people are still killing each other today and using your moral self defense argument all the time to justify it. e.g palestine.
So take your morality and put it where the sun don't shine and start living in the real world.

MrAnony1: Are you saying that it is morally ok to sacrifice human life in the present as part of the process of creating technology that can save human life in the future?

Morals have nothing to do with it. Humans and nature as a whole, advance through destruction. All acts, even inaction, results in the destruction of something. Sometimes, life is destroyed, even by god. Without destruction, nothing will exist.
What we do is minimise the destruction that affect us adversely, like that of fellow humans, and the best way of doing it is copying nature first, then make it better.

torchwave: Wide is the road that leads to destruction and many walk there; narrow is the road that leads to life but there be few that find it. However, all have been called to eternal life.

If only you knew what "roads" that passage is referring to.

Clue: the author is gay.

striktlymi: If science gets to that point where there is zero mortality rate with respect to embryos then I see no reason to argue against it.

Which is why I'm not against egg and sperm donations because it's the only way science can advance past nature in this field. And science is advancing.

TheBigUrban2: Demarcation- one is in the womb.....and the other is out.


Late abortions have their own argument.....most abortions are done withint the first two months

Now, who's anonysing?

HumbledbYGrace: How do you prepare for a relationship?

Some use candles. Others use their fingers. While some practice on their cousins.

Whatever method you use, make sure your prayers go deep enough.

Master
Lord
Protector
Wise
Handsome
Strong

@ Striktlymi, if science reaches a point where there is little or no embryo death in IVF, would you still be against it?

TheBigUrban2: Potential human.....potential human....potential human....potential human.


Potential human dependent on the pregnant woman......


I dont know why you like asking redundant questions.....i have made my point over and over again!

Yes, you have been making your senseless point over and over again and we are trying to get you to see reason even if you don't agree. And we use analogy which you term anonyism.

So let's take another example. According to you, with reference to the bolded, an 8 and half month old foetus in the womb is not human but a premature baby of 24 weeks in an incubator is a full human?

texanomaly: *rolls eyes*

Pic or I don't believe you.

This is not me. But it gives you an idea.
PS: I'm a lot finer and richer.

I don't suffer.
I live.

DECOtech: hmm... are you that handsome and charming?

Why do you think Lucifer loves me?

black people.
smh.

berem: maybe I have to shoot you. I can't stand being quoted by a devil's advocate.

If you see me in real life,(in your dreams), shooting me will be the last thing on your mind.

berem: Did that child die sucking his mother's bossom? Oh lord Jesus!

makes you want to pick up a rifle and shoot somebody. Doesn't it.

god speaks?

wow!

TheBigUrban2: Stop asking irrelevant questions......that is anonynnizing

It is not irrelevant. If we humans had evolved to lay eggs, would you hold the same opinion? Can the woman decide which eggs live or die just because she laid them? Obviously not. But because we evolved otherwise, the woman now decides who lives or dies. Well, not everybody agrees.

TheBigUrban2: The embryo/foetus is a part of the woman until the umbilical cord is severed.


And stop anonynizing my arguments please.

Just because humans don't lay eggs?

Satan is your best bet. You enjoy in this life and in the next.

I am neither, so...

SalC: It's possible the Catholic church you attend is different from the one we all know or maybe you didn't understand what you were taught.

If you are confessing with the intention willingly committing thesame sin again, you better go back home because you are simply wasting your time.

So never commit the same sin again after confessing? Who's being a hypocrite here?