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Candour: True talk. He's crafty with plenty tricks but powerless against a Christian saved by Grace and who is aware of what Christ did on our behalf

Got himself nailed alive on a log of wood with thieves? That's the great thing he did for you? SMH.

Joshthefirst: Yes. God gave man authority
Adam became the 'god' of this world. He was to enfore and dominate and subdue this realm with God's light.
But man rebelled and satan became the 'god' of this world

God intervened. He still intervenes today through the ones he has set free from satans dominion.

But man still rebels
Why do you rebel
Why do you rebel against God?

Very soon, all sin and rebellion will be crushed under the wrath of judgement.

Repent logicboy. For the kingdom of God is at hand; Now more than ever before.

This is the message we preach.

Rewind. Hit PLAY. Rewind. Hit PLAY. Rewind. Hit PLAY.

Joshthefirst: @ lb and musk
You see why I said you need God
You don't know him or his thoughts and plans and actions
You think God created humans just for worship smh.

It's a shame.

Here's what God had in mind when he made you:
Genesis 1:
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

So we are not talking of Vishnu here then. My bad.

italo: I neither believe nor disbelieve it. I simply dont care.

It is not impossible that you are dating Rihanna.

Is it possible that God/deities exist?

Hehehe. Xtians are laughable.

italo: *new convert alert?*

I hear you say "possible."

So you believe I'm dating Rihanna?

italo: I have never made any assertions nor do I have any opinions about FSM.

I simply dont care about it.

That's irrational.

Logicboy03: Wrong.


A possiblity without a single shred of evidence or reasonable probability has no consequence.

It is possible that a plane could fall on my house as i am typing. Very low probability and no evidence that it will happen....hence, my building isnt protected with anti-aircraft technology

If I tell christians that it is possible that Beyonce and Rihanna will both spend next weekend in my bed, they will run about shouting that Alfa is dating Beyonce and Rihanna. It is amazing how a xtian brain works.

italo: The guy amazes me, to say the least. Same response to every question.

Q. Is Atheist North Korea better than Religious Nigeria to live in?

Mazaje: Which of the many gods?

Q. Is it rational to assert something without evidence?

Mazaje: Which of the many gods?

Q. Where do you live?

Mazaje: Which of ..........?

Does he read before posting at all?

Why does such a simple question disturb you?

Why not answer him?

italo: Keyword: possibility.

Do you also NOW believe God possibly exists?

Do you also NOW believe FSM possibly exists?

italo: I ask: where is your evidence for your BELIEF that there is no God?

The same place you put your evidence for your BELIEF that there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster.

@ deepsight,
what form would this creator of yours have?

As I lay my head to bed, I pray Satan's aura protect me from the evils of the godly.

DrummaBoy: abi O. Mod's should do something to ban that chap before he satanizes people around here. Nairaland sha!

I can assure you that they have tried.

Reyginus: As usual, always holding unto the wrong side of an argument. And very illogical rebuttal you have up there.
This is the reason I think that atheists here are very dull. Why do you guys find it so hard to defend atheism without telling us how ridiculous theism is? Is there no argument for atheism?

NO!.

Because atheism is not a proposition but a response to one.

Theist: I have Ghadse which cooks any food I want in 30 seconds

Atheist: I don't believe such a device exists. Can you show me?

Theist: Do you have any proof for your disbelief?

Atheist: Ehm! I don't need any proof of anything. You just said ...

Theist: You are very irrational if you can't prove what you just said.

Atheist: Can you please show me this device you talked about or at least proof of its existence.

Theist: Can you prove you are not irrational?

italo: Why are you attaching conditions?

Are you admitting that you make claims and have beliefs you cannot prove with empirical evidence?

A disbelief of a claim is not a claim. If you have a claim made by atheists, say it.

Joshthefirst: see what I said? Please find out from records and stop laughing.

Nwokem kee kwanu? Kee ka oru di?

Chai. Which records?

Which oru? He whom Satan has blessed needs no more oru (sufferage) in this life.

italo: This thread is not for Theists to prove their claims.

It is to show that Atheists cant prove their claim with empirical evidence, yet they claim that anyone who believes something without empirical evidence is irrational.

That makes Atheism irrational.

Which claim can atheists not prove? Please. A positive claim. Not a disbelief of a previous claim.

italo: Allow me to talk to those who are trying to pass across their arguments in a civil manner.

I dont think insults and ridicule are tools for logic.

Thank you.

I think he is saying out loud, what most of us are thinking in silence.

Joshthefirst: what's the point?
Your heart is hardened. If I give you the records of people like smith wigglesworth([size=18pt]who actually healed amputees and raised the dead[/size]) and kenneth E. hagin and countless others, you wouldn't believe me.
You and mazaje will have to wait for God to heal your amputee neighbour or heal the sick before your very eyes, which will probably NOT happen. God is not your houseboy. God resists the proud and scoffers and gives grace to the humble. He will keep revealing himself and changing the lives and saving those who believe and seek him with a pure heart.

But the words of the proud are an abomination before God.

He won't even mind you self. But we will still preach the message. And we will still tell you that all men shall stand before God in judgement. Your sin cries out to God and provokes his wrath. God commands all men everywhere to repent.

italo: I thought by now we would have seen empirical evidence from Atheists for their claims and beliefs.

NOTHING! ZERO!

Instead they are waiting on others to provide evidence of their own beliefs.

Why subject other creeds to the scrutiny your creed cannot stand up against?

#hypocrisy #irrational

LOL

Mr Peacock should just mind his own business. The destiny of my people is not his to chose. This problem no longer concerns him.

Reyginus: Lol. First of all, I didn't say that atheism is irrational. I am only exhibiting a trace of rational sceptism. Secondly, are you by the above implying that there shouldn't be any reason for asserting some things? Or that a default position transcends logic?

A default position is by nature, the logical position.
For those in non logical position to accuse those in the logical position of irrationality can only mean one thing: projection.

texanomaly: Sorry. Not a chance in hell. (Couldn't resist that one)

How are you this fine day Alfa?

You sound afraid of us. Don't be. We are harmless. I want to invite you to our next retreat in December when we celebrate the birth of the nazarene. Contrary to popular beliefs, he was a gift to us.

I am very fine thank you. Satan saw me through the rough night and made me breathe again this morning. His works are marvelous.

Reyginus: I'm hoping to see an atheist show that atheism is rational. And please don't hold unto theism.

I don't see how a default position can be described as irrational. It is only one whose natural brain function has been corrupted by the sermons of the godly, that can hold such absurd positions as to call perfectly rational beings irrational.

Deep Sight: I cannot countenance jokes within a proper debate please. No one believes in FSM as a creator God. You do know that to be true, so please try not to waste precious time on such an argument.

The eternal question remains: does an eternal creator of all that began to exist, exist or not?

That is the question, and it does nothing to address the question, to simply create fantastical concepts such as FSM and apply such concepts towards idle mockery.



We know that they exist, and abundantly so, and their belief is also a breed of theistic thought, and is deeply rooted in history and spiritual antiquity, and is not, as with FSM, a concept garbled up for the sake of idle mockery or argument.

It is telling that of all religions and theist beliefs in the world, the FSM belief is the only one you singled out as a mockery. This is a religion that is recognised in many countries.

In any case, if we are to argue about the existence of a creator, then you need to define what you mean by "a creator". A being? A substance? A chemical reaction? An energy source? What exactly? After that definition we can then see if it really exists. And moreover if it corresponds to any of the gods the theists are trying to force down our throats.

Even if the FSM is a joke that was meant to mock theism, it doesn't mean that it is impossible. You see, there is no possible way you can prove that the FSM did not create the universe and everything in it. Is there?

italo: Permit me to refrain from cheap insults and face the topic.

Thank you .

Try to understand before responding.

what a joke of a book

texanomaly: This does not surprise me at all. It goes right along with your master's plan. You are definitely a good follower.

Join us.

italo: Oh! The claim isnt "Theists are irrational" anymore. It is now "we are all irrational."

It seems like I have achieved something.

Lack of grammar comprehension lessons shows.

Deep Sight: The only problem with this response is that there are no pastafarians in existence.

Also, the sentence would read just as well if the word in red is replaced with "Atheism."

Neither Christians nor atheists believe in the FSM. In fact, no one does, and as a philosophical retort to theism, its puerile.

this is a big fail argument. So if you actually see someone that belives in FSM, what does that do to your twisted argument?

What of those that believe in Amadioha? Are you going to claim that they don't exist as well?

Maximus17: This is beginning to turn into denominational quarell of which I know will never come to an end....back to topic Iif the bible describes her as VIRGIN mary,then automatically shez a virgin......thatz Final

Where exactly in the bible do you have this description?

Why are you worried about what atheist do or do not believe?