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@ joel lala, even your co-christians are laughing at you.

Ajibam: Lol

Ajibam: Which kind spirit be that

Satanic

joel lala: @Alfa,
On the issue of peter denying Jesus, i didnt want to use your own example to ridicule you so much because at a point i really felt sorry for you, but since you came out here again to show your high level of ignorance once again i will use your own passage in Mark 14 to not only debase your claim but to show how big of a liar you are.

Now here is what Jesus christ truely said to peter from your quoted book of Mark14 before your tried to manipulate the word:

Mark 14 vs 30:

30 And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day, even in this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice.

Now lets see if this was so:

Mark 14 vs 66-68

66 And as Peter was beneath in the palace, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest:

67 And when she saw Peter warming himself, she looked upon him, and said, And thou also wast with Jesus of Nazareth.

68 But he denied, saying, I know not, neither understand I what thou sayest. And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.


This was the first denial and the first time the cock crew.

Now,

Mark 14 vs 69-70a

69 And a maid saw him again, and began to say to them that stood by, This is one of them.

70 And he denied it again.

This is the second denial but the cock didnt crow here until,

Mark 14 vs 69-70b

70bAnd a little after, they that stood by said again to Peter, Surely thou art one of them: for thou art a Galilaean, and thy speech agreeth thereto.

71 But he began to curse and to swear, saying, I know not this man of whom ye speak.

This is the third denial then the cock crew the second time after that here:

Mark 14 vs 72:

72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

This is for everybody to see that the word of God through Jesus christ our saviour is True and stands forever.

@Alfa, continue to make a false blasphemous thread and i will continue to expose you for not only the liar that you are, but also an ignorant deceitful one.

As for the 3 days stuff and mustard seed i have given you enough evidence and proof and i need not say further on it( although i can go on and on about it to expose your deciet, i will leave you for your concience to judge you).

Another straw man. Please address my passages only and stop adding your own. Here they are again: John 13:38 and Mark 14:66-68.

I understand if you surrender on the other issues because frankly speaking you have no standing ground at all. Run away like the soldier of christ you are.

joel lala: The funny thing is that you mentioned 5 names from the begining of the thread and only one is a harlot..You couldnt prove that the rest are harlots could you. A total failure, because everybody even non christains know that rahab was a harlot and the only harlot in the lineage.

As for the bolded, i could not but only laugh at the level of ignorance here.

Deut 25 outlines the law for raising up seed unto a dead brother so that his 'name be not put out of Israel'.

Deuteronomy 25:5-6:

5 If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. Her husband’s brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to her. 6 The first son she bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel.

This appears to be the reason Naomi suggests Ruth approach Boaz (Ruth 2:20, 3:2-4) and basically propose to him.

Ruth 2:20:
20 “The Lord bless him!” Naomi said to her daughter-in-law. “He has not stopped showing his kindness to the living and the dead.” She added, “That man is our close relative; he is one of our guardian-redeemers'.

Boaz is aware of it and accepts the responsibility if the closer relative chose to decline (3:12-13).

Ruth 3:12-13: 12 Although it is true that I am a guardian-redeemer of our family, there is another who is more closely related than I. 13 Stay here for the night, and in the morning if he wants to do his duty as your guardian-redeemer, good; let him redeem you. But if he is not willing, as surely as the Lord lives I will do it. Lie here until morning.”

In Israel, Ruth takes part in levirate marriage—marrying a relative of Mahlon's( her dead husband), an act which will ensure that Mahlon's name is not forgotten, as any child she has will be considered as if it were Mahlon's child. She marries Boaz, and her child, Obed (biologically Boaz's but counted as if Mahlon's ( that is why the women were shouting 'a son has been born to Naomi' ((definately Mahlon her son is dead)) because according to the levirate marriage law the first son she ( Ruth) bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother (naomi's son) which i quoted in Deuteronomy 25:5-6) ..So Ruth and Naomi were not Lesbians.

Ruth didnt return to her fathers house was a choice because Ruth, as a Moabite, grew up to know and respect her mother-in-law, Naomi. Naomi must have been a kind and giving person, certainly thinking of others' needs before her own. Ruth was drawn to her generous nature and chose to stay with Naomi following the death of her husband to care for her. Ruth accepted God as her God while orpah the other lady didnt making her to leave Naomi, however, both Orpah and Ruth loved Naomi because she is a good mother-in-law to them so when Orpah left she wept.( Ruth 1vs 14)

Also, you quoted some parts of Ruth 1 vs 19 to show that Naomi and ruth were lesbians but you still lie here.

Now, i will quote the full verse for everyone to see your lies and desception:

Ruth 1vs 19-20:

19 So they both went until they came to Bethlehem. And when they had come to Bethlehem, all the city was stirred because of them, and the women said, "Is this Naomi?" 20 She said to them, "Do not call me Naomi; call me Mara, for the Almighty has dealt very bitterly with me.

All the city from this it would appear that Naomi was not only well known, but also highly respected at Beth-lehem: a proof that Elimelech was of high consideration at that place. This shows that the people were surprised that naomi who was highly respected in the land looked like someone of very low status, hence their surprise when they saw her...so how can this prove that naomi and ruth are lesbians?

When you read the Bible read with open heart and not with a bias mind to make a mockery or else you will end up making a ridicule and total mockery of yourself.

I was going to give you a lesson but the spirit in me showed me the uselessness of trying to convince you as you are doing everything possible to derail this thread.

I will just say one thing and if this wasn't was the bible said, then may all evil curses be upon my head: Ruth went to a married man's bed in the middle of the night and asked him to have sex with her.

Shikena! Any woman that does that is a harlot. whatever the reason.

joel lala: Here you are again with your blasphemous tales.

In Jesus’s day, it was common for people to say something was like a mustard seed in order to suggest that it was very, very small (it is only someone that is ignorant that will be compairing the level of education of now with the days of old).

Now Jesus was still right as the mustard seed is known to be the smallest among seeds sown in a garden.

In the first place, although, the orchid seed may be the smallest, or one of the smallest plant seeds, and thus smaller than the mustard seed, it is not necessary to consider Jesus’ statement in Matthew 13:32 as containing scientific error since the class of seeds with which the mustard seed is associated is the garden herb group (lachana) which may possibly be interpreted as being the “all the seeds” category to which reference is made in the earlier part of the statement, “all” there being limited to the specific group (lachana) under consideration in the total context of the verse. Since the mustard seed probably was cultivated in Palestine in ancient times, for its oil, it may be argued that Jesus, when speaking of this type of seed, was talking about it in a comparison with all those seeds which were planted by farmers for food. Since panton is used with the lachana group in the parallel passage in Mark 4:31, it may be further argued that the panton ton spermaton group in both Matthew 13:32 and Mark 4:31 is intended to mean only the lachana species, the “all the garden herb” group. In this limited context of garden herbs then, Jesus speaks of the mustard seed as extremely small.

With “all the seeds” being understood as limited in this way by the context, the minute orchid seed need not be considered as being included by Jesus in His statement. It is to be observed that if Jesus had said, “The mustard seed is smaller than the orchid seed,” He would have seemed to have spoken erroneously; but this He did not say (how wise).

However, it is to be realized that Jesus, in using the common Jewish proverbial expression of the mustard seed as a figure of smallness, did so only because the proverbial expression so used was a true and accurate statement, including those implications involving scientific data regarding the mustard seed, both as to its very smallness as a seed and to its moderate largeness when grown.

Now, in the aspect of peter denying Jesus 3 times is true and i will show the world how you lie:

Matthew 26:69-75, NIV:

69Now Peter was sitting out in the courtyard, and a servant girl came to him. "You also were with Jesus of Galilee," she said.

70But he denied it before them all. "I don't know what you're talking about," he said.

71Then he went out to the gateway, where another girl saw him and said to the people there, "This fellow was with Jesus of Nazareth."

72He denied it again, with an oath: "I don't know the man!"

73After a little while, those standing there went up to Peter and said, "Surely you are one of them, for your accent gives you away."

74Then he began to call down curses on himself and he swore to them, "I don't know the man!"

Immediately a rooster crowed. 75Then Peter remembered the word Jesus had spoken: "Before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times." And he went outside and wept bitterly.

This shows that peter denied Jesus 3 times..@Alfa, you are a blattant deceitful liar.

As for you saying Jesus didnt stend three days is not only laughable but it is also sardonic.

Let me shows you:


"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40).

"Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up"" (John 2:19).

"Now while they were staying in Galilee, Jesus said to them, "The Son of Man is about to be betrayed into the hands of men, and they will kill Him, and the third day He will be raised up." And they were exceedingly sorrowful" (Matthew 17:22-23).

"On the next day, which followed the Day of Preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees gathered together to Pilate, saying, "Sir, we remember, while He was still alive, how that deceiver said, 'After three days I will rise.' Therefore command that the tomb be made secure until the third day, lest His disciples come by night and steal Him away, and say to the people, 'He has risen from the dead.' So the last deception will be worse than the first"" (Matthew 27:62-64).

The fact that Jesus would spend three days in the grave was known by Jesus' followers and His enemies. The question then is how to account for these three days. Before we launch into our study, I need to correct one misconception. Jesus did not say he would be in the grave for 72 hours. The statement is "three days and three nights." The Jews, as we do today, counted a partial day or night as being a day or night. Someone might say "I worked all day on that project;" but we don't conclude that he spent 24 hours or even 12 hours at work, even though he stated "all day."

What are these fallacious straw man arguments you are providing? This is what you did in the other thread. You ignore my points and start attacking other points I didn't raise.

Firstly, about the cock crowing after the third denial, you avoided the scriptures I quoted and came up with your own. Why dont you address the two passages i gave? John 13:38 and Mark 14:66-68. Stay on these two and show me how I lied.

About staying in the tomb for three days, once again that wasn't my point and I have no problem with that. My point was that he also said three nights. Please count and tell me how many nights he stayed in the tomb.

Your twist about mustard seed, orchid seed etc was simply laughable. Even if he was talking exclusively of garden seeds, which he wasn't as he precisely said all seeds, he would still be wrong. He also said it was the largest of plants and grows into a tree. Please show us a mustard tree.

If you are not going to address my points, please stop. If you want to discuss the other issues you raised, open another thread and don't derail this one.

joel lala: Ajibam is a mod, so he is excused if he doesnt go into such arguement okay.

I will still be waiting for you here to debase your lies and expose how you try to manipulate the word of God.

BTW, you opened another blasphemous thread and i wasnt invited. why you arent only a liar but a wicked deceitful one.

By the grace of God i am coming over there.

Being a mod is no excuse for lack of brain work.
Go through all his topics. They are all copy and paste. All!

Go through his posts. He just repeats the same thing over and over again and hides behind "I won't argue" argument to mask his real "I can't argue" self.

You can join in the other thread as there is currently no good rebutal over there. Only threats.

sylvalord: Dude u realy av to quit posting blaphemous topics.. Pls stop b4 d lord's wrath engulfs u.. No1 can withstand GOD'S anger so be careful.. REPENT and let christ save u.. Satan has blinded u but d holy spirit can restore ur sight.. Repent my bro REPENT

Please tell your god to send his wrath. I'm waiting.

And when has the truth become blasphemous?

Ajibam: Bro.joel...what you did will just make him feel happy...he only wants someone to argue with,,but I like you 4 one thing the bible says in proverb26vs5

 Be sure to answer the foolish arguments of fools,
or they will become wise in their own estimation...

You only wish you were capable of making a coherent albeit ill-informed rebutal like he did.

@Joel, at least you tried, which means there's still hope for you as they have not completely destroyed your brain functions in the church. I will provide you with an answer later.

macof: So wat is his voice like? Does he talk slow or fast?

he talks quiet. haha.

Logicboy03: lol.....how true....


So what are your beliefs about Baphomet?

It is a symbol of hypocrisy made as a mockery of those that use symbols to give their life a meaning. Just like the statue of St. John or the great picture of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Logicboy03: Grow up.

Why would satan or satanists scare anyone?

If you're an atheist you know that Satan doesnt exist. Satanists are just people with a different religion opposite to Abrahmic ones
If you're a christian/muslim/Jew, you shouldnt fear Satan i you worship God and have a godly life


Unfortunately, christians/muslims are the ones who are hypos in general.....they fear Satanists while their holy books tells them that Allah protects them from Satan

Don't blame her. She has been raised to live in fear. Fear of a loving god that would let her suffer and burn forever if she ever doubts.

Imagine yourself when you were still in the church serving and you met a self confessed worshiper of Satan. Wouldn't you have been afraid? I would.

Do they shout "Jizz-Us! Jizz-Us!" during the action?

texanomaly: @ Alfa...I know you profess to be a Satanist. I see you everywhere. It's obvious i guess. Are you really? Do you just like to shock people, because half the time you shock the hell out of me. You scare me a little too.
Tex

Truth can be shocking sometimes. I am a free thinking atheistic Satanist. The bible made me a Satanist after it showed me the evil of god and the goodness of Satan.

Ask yourself, what did I say in my op that was false? It only shocks because people have never really sat down and thought about those things.

Ajibam: I don't argue!!
Argument leads to fight!!!
Our religion teaches that "thou shall not fight"
Praise master Jesus

Your religion teaches you not to do the following?

Argument definition:
a. A course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating truth or falsehood: presented a careful argument for extraterrestrial life.
b. A fact or statement put forth as proof or evidence; a reason: The current low mortgage rates are an argument for buying a house now.
c. A set of statements in which one follows logically as a conclusion from the others.

Rossikk: It really wasn't that simple.

Conversion was coercive not voluntary. The christian missionaries came and insisted one had to renounce their traditional religion and become christian to be admitted into their schools. In the new colonial dispensation, gaining a 'western' education was the ticket to success, so many were compelled to ditch their faiths to access the new possibilities. In Islam up north, it was straight up forced conversion at the point of a sword via Jihad.

So none of this was ever voluntary. Africans were FORCED to adopt christianity and islam.

So who is forcing them today?

Ajibam: Your family needs money badly gan ooo..

Yours need Jizz-Us. No wonder you are a pauper.

Another copy and paste.

When are you going to do something original?

Ajibam: Praise master Jesus

We already know that you are incapable of constructing a coherent argument. Stop reminding us.

Cowardly xtians ran away from thread. Don't worry. It's here for posterity. More are coming.

Because white and arab men told them their ancestors were evil and the foolish fools believed them.

Uyi Iredia: You can go for cryogenics, or donate your body to the lab, or donate some of your organs and cremate the remains of your corpse. My sis studies Physiology and getting corpses is a problem since they are expensive, from 70k depending on the state, and they aren't recent. Naturally, recent corpses are preferred.

If somebody is willing to give my family 70k, they can have my corpse when I die. Where do I sign?

Logicboy03: Alfa!!






To be honest, I was expecting something foolish from you again but alas I was the foolish one! How the hell did I not realise after all these years that mustard doesnt grow into trees? I accepted that foolish verse hook line and sinker...gaddem!!!

Yes o. Imagine all the nonsense we were fed and accepted without thinking or questionning.

Lanrefahm: Guy its like u lack respect 4 elders jesus(isa) is not ur mate not even forefathers mate. If any 1 disrespect any of d messenger of God i take it personal. I dey vex with u big time. No 1 is forcing to believe. D truth is always different from falsehood. God will always protect d people who r true. Guy never u disrespect any messenger of God, u ve been warned

Reserve your warnings for cowardly christians that you pedofile worshipers can threaten. I tell the truth and if you see any lies in what I say, point it out or blow yourself up.

Peter262: may God have Mercy on you

Satan's cover is sufficient. Thanks.

Jesus made a lot false prophesies and senseless talks that one wonders why he was doing this. The main explanation according to me is that it must be the fact that he didn't go to school and his illiteracy showed in all the gospels.

Hear the illiterate talk:

Matthew 13:31-32

31 He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. 32 Though it is the smallest of all seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”

This shows abject illiteracy from the supposed creator of everything. Mustard seed is neither the smallest of all seeds, nor the largest of all plants and never grows into a tree.

In another show of logical and scientific deficiency borne from bad up-bringing, the homeless, hungry illiterate got angry that a fig tree was not bearing fruit even though it wasn't the season to bear fruits. (Mark 11:12-14) If he had gone to school, they would have taught him how plants worked at least.

Then he dealt into prophesying but there again cannot even do simple counting. He prophesied in Matthew 12:40, that he would stay 3 nights in the grave. But the most he stayed was 2. Blocked brain won't let him know that friday, saturday and sunday, even though 3 separate days, have only 2 nights between them. And you call him the all knowing!

In John 13:38, he prophesied that Peter would deny him three times before the cock crows. But what actually happened was Peter denying him only once before the cock crowed. (Mark 14:66-68) If this is not false prohesy, I don't know what is.

There are more but the most shocking is that the bible exposed Jesus as a liar. Yes, a cunning lying deceiver.

Here:

John 7:8-10

8 You go to the festival. I am not going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come.” 9 After he had said this, he stayed in Galilee.

10 However, after his brothers had left for the festival, he went also, not publicly, but in secret.

He promised his own brothers that he wasn't going to a festival but went there in secret after they have gone. Is that a man to be trusted?

^^^ misquoting me won't advance your cause.

This will bring much needed traffic here

https://www.nairaland.com/1430196/jesus-ancestors-harlots

Foreign religion is killing our culture.

Logicboy03: This your satanism is becoming annoying.

You're a goat like baphomet

Coming from a hypocrite, that's rich.

Tell us, what church did you go to recently for business contacts?

joel lala: it means that i will nt give a yes or no answer to ur manipulate tales whereas u just said yes without bringing out the questions that u intentionally dodge..so who will knw what u are saying yes to..
Also i said that out of ur manipulated story only rahab was the recognized harlot there.. A harlot is a woman that have se.x with SEVERAL men, so as for mary u didnt show us the man she had se.x with b4 joseph, ruth didnt eventually have se.x with boaz dat night as boaz hailed her to be virtuous nd bathsheba we all knw that her actions where caused by david..
BTW am waiting for u to show us how ruth was a lesbian according to ur first post..

If you recognise only Rahab, that's ok because it shows that you already accept that your saviour came from a bloodline of harlots.

About Ruth and Naomi being lesbian lovers, it is very obvious though not explicit. Let me give you a first clue. After Ruth's husband died, she refused to go back to her father's house instead she attached herself to Naomi. Yes, attached herself. In fact, if you read Ruth 1: 19, it said that the whole town of Bethlehem stirred at their relationship. That means the town was disturbed by what was going on but there was no law then against lebianism so they didn't know what to do. Because of this hostility in Bethlehem, they departed to the country of Moab where homosexuality was accepted.

A question one should ask is why would Ruth not return to her father's house after her husband died but instead made a "till death do us part" marriage pact with Naomi? There is only one plausible answer staring you in the face. You can accept it if you want or continue burying your christian head in the sand.

Then, after Ruth gave birth to a boy via her arranged marriage of convenience with Boaz, what did the bible say? I quote: “A son has been born to Naomi.” Ruth 4:17. The means that they, the Moabites, recognise Naomi as the real partner of Ruth and not Boaz who was completely ignored.

joel lala: then the answer to urs is none of the above ...
As for rahab yes i admit she was a harlot nd the only harlot in ur list but still give me time to say something about her.

So you mean you as a christian, is incapable of giving a yes or no answer on a biblical story?

joel lala: why should i answer ur questions when u refused to answer mine first.

The answer to your question is yes. Biblically speaking.
The same way that a just and righteous man would offer his terrified teenage daughters to anal rapists to do whatever they want with.