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Eziachi:
I am with you there about giving your daughter to a Nigerian, I gave mine to some matador from Spain instead ,
But I can tell you that I had to work so hard, charm them, but never kiss their back side though .
Being a child soldier in Biafra helped a lot, especially with my father in-law, who introduced me everywhere we go together until his dead as a former Biafra soldier They may be Scottish aristocratic family, I am of the same from the great Igbo tribe too  

Eventually I won them over, but it took our mother law far longer to fully accept me, not until we had our son/adopted our daughter. Suddenly she calls me, son!
It was a hard battle I can tell you.
But in the end I love them to bits and they do genuinely loved me as a son, they never had.
In those days only a handful of people in Scotland hard seen a black man and every Christmas was like a death sentence for me as we had to be in Scotland.
Your generation had much easy life today in many aspect.

Tottenham Hotspur/Celtic is like religion in my wife's family. You can imagine my pride, the day my fellow Igbo guy signed for Spurs as the first Sub Saharan African to play in the English top league in 1984.
His name is John Chiedozie. Do you know him?

i think no one can hate you. u are really a cool person or at least ur personality

Pa Eziache may ur days be long

mukina2:
my day was cool

alhamdulillah, thank God. have a blessed week

Ok now i understand Ika's point of view

Agbotean has been right all this while but we have just fail to listen to him

Andre is also right but i think Agbotean did not understand you

Ika is like an ethnic group that connects the igbos and edo together

Ikas are actually edo people but there language is an igbo dialect

http://www.ikaworld.com/index.php?mod=article&cat=IkaHistoryamp;Tradition&article=207

if so then it is hight time we leave them

mukina2:
waaw mangsi jamma mashaallah
nigerian diekeur fahn? takuma deh

nice see u use the smile icon again how was ur day

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=488326.msg8743006#msg8743006 date=1311029280]When yardua was dying,some losers here said more than this.I know them but now,none of them is praying for their own to die.hypocrisy[/quote]true, some igbos might be dispeakable sometimes but we need to be tolorate of each other

ojukwu is loved by his people and i think he needs to be respected for that even though they would't do the same for other

homerac7:
^^^ 

Ooops! I no know o!

Apologies to Aare himself, na only u fit. My bad. Sorry sir!

ha just leave becomrich alone, he is in his own world

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=488326.msg8742930#msg8742930 date=1311028343]Haba. . .he's not dead yet,he's only suffering from chronic senility and locked away in some mental home.Maybe when he dies,he can rot in hell sha.[/quote]don't talk like that

this is someones father and husband

why are u people heartless like this

RoadStar:
Can you please re-read the emboldened.

Zik made material acheivements as well
1. UNN (The first Nigerian Indegeneous University )
2. African Contenental Bank etc

But looking at Zik in this light of material chivements is belittling the man.

U can now understand why the guy was known even outside Nigeria , hence the name Zik of Africa.
I cant even start to produce accounts of the colonials on Zik.
Go to google and educate urself.

Ok as I said earlier on this thread I have gone to wikipedia and other ZIK of africa websites and I have read all this things before

on the first account, WIKIPEDIA is not a good refers because it can easlly be edited by people like chino11 and co

Now lets look at the post

1.) first indigenous university is a glorifed way of saying it is not the first univeristy o but the first made by nigerian . c'mon is it the first university or not Yes or NO and the answer is NO

2.)

In 1944, Nnamdi Azikiwe, an eminent Nigerian journalist acquired a small property bank named Tinubu Properties for 500 naira or 250 pounds. Azikiwe was a shareholder of the National Bank of Nigeria before the purchase and had entered the banking industry partly to shore up the financial foundation of his newspaper group and also to help the credit problems of indigenous businessmen. In 1946, the bank became known as Tinubu Bank and a year later it came to bore the name African Continental Bank. By 1949, the bank had a nominal capital of about 250,000 pounds controlled by the founder, Azikiwe, it was affiliated with the Zik group and was one in twelve out of the group's subsidiaries. Apart from marketing itsself to indigenous businessmen it also financed some business activities in the Zik group. During the 1940s, the bank played in role in extending credit activities to the group.
During the mid 1950s, with the founder already foremost nationalist, the bank became mixed in politics and business. The bank was helped financially by the Eastern regional government leading to an investigation into improper conducts by the bank's founder, Azikiwe who was then premier of the region. Prior to the investigation, in 1954, a report of an economic travel mission led by Nnamdi Azikiwe and Louis Ojukwu asserted the need for the creation of a finance corporation and for the finance corporation to have discretionary powers to stimulate economic development. The Eastern House of Assembly followed up with the creation of the Eastern Nigeria Finance Corporation charged with investing in an indigenous bank. The finance corporation thereafter chose to invest about 750,000 pounds in ACB with the support of Mbonu Ojike, the regional finance minister. Later, as requested by the Eastern House of Assembly for the corporation to acquire majority shares in an indigenous bank, the finance corporation purchased about 87.7% of the African Continental Bank. By then Azikiwe was interested in making ACB a statutory corporation a move supported by an international bank mission. However, the role and interests of Azikiwe after large investments by statutory corporations was deemed by critics to be still quite substansial.
After the investigation, Azikiwe transferred most of his interest in the bank to the regional government and the bank was subsequently nationalized and jointly owned by the Eastern Nigeria Marketing Board and the Eastern Nigeria Development Corporation.
By 1962, the Eastern Nigeria Production Development Board had invested about 6 million naira into the bank. It opened a branch in London and declared a profit during the time.
The bank's first general manager was Adolphus Blankson, he was succeeded by Fred McEwen. In 1960, it was chaired by Louis Ojukwu.
The bank had about 107 branches before becoming distressed in 1991

http://nigerianwiki.com/wiki/African_Continental_Bank

as you urself can see he was just a stakeholder and not the owner or the person that started the bank.

3. His newspaper fought for imperislism   how many newspapers do that daily. People like Martins die for this and not just newspaper

4. comical first cartoon in newspaper

5. counter ethopia when nigeria is still under the british rule

6. is even dele momodu not doing the same

^^^^^^^^^^^

he is becomerich

chino11:
We are not saying that Awalawo and Enahoro where not carrying Zik's bags as he was moving with his West African Pilot, but what we are saying is that Zik was the fore-most nationalist. Great Zik can be likened to Nelson Mandela in SA, because you hardly point at any white elephant project built by Mandela, the same goes to Martin Luther, the same goes to George Washington. All the three above fought for what you cannot see nor geel. They never built anything physical in their life time. The same thing applies to Zik, for spearheading the Nigerian Independence is more than any TV station or whatever. Zik fought for political emancipation. What you cannot see physically is bigger than what you can see and feel. So in this sense Zik fought for your political freedom from the colonial masters. The same freedom your still enjoying today and your still asking what he did for Nigeria. Well I know you can never understand this .

great post and i do understand your point

Mandela spent 30 or so yrs in prison for SA

George Washington fought the british and won ( are really inter country war with weapons and lives were lost) he was elected for

Martin fought for the black injustice in America and DIE for what he believed in

Nnamdi did not rot in prison infact he was dinning with the british. He did not die for Nigeria instead during the civil war he ran away. He did not fight for independence he BEGGED for it. Please don't confuse things

So using Nnamdi in the same calibre as washington and mandela as an analogy is very wrong and insultive to those that actually believe in those men u mentioned because they all suffered but Nnamdi did not instead he was dinning with the british

read henry's101 speech of independence by Nnamdi. Also Nnamdi after Nnamdi begged, he would not have been granted if the west and the mid-west did not support him and fought for independence themselves. Read the link i brought out to "roadstar".

So what did he achieve that we are enjoying today?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=715951.msg8742735#msg8742735 date=1311025846]This is a guy that Jarus would have us believe would be top 3 if the CBN position was zoned to the SW.

This is a guy Akanbi_edu believes is one of the most competent Nigerians in the country.

This is a guy Fstranger put in the same sentence as Krugman (Nobel prize winner).

All I can do is shake my head.[/quote]why would u shake ur head

are they lying

KenGali:
@Alj_Harem, I assume you meant Natives.
My answer is yes. Like Ezeuche said, we are Forest People. And Traditionally have cultural abohrrence that protect forests before the white man came. it might interest you to know that uptil now, a particular undying tree is still used as land beacon in rural areas instead of the government registered beacons. If government recognize such, it will encourage tree planting. Applying it in Urban areas is a queston of government implementation only.

ok you point taking. thanks

your idea is actually very good well thought of

RoadStar:
He was undisputedly at the forefront of the fight for Nigeria independence.
But I guess that that is no more felt today.
And I know u would say it is not substantial.

Go and tell Black Americans that Martin Luther King did not acheive anything felt by them today.
Or that Nelson Madela achieved nothing because the white south Africans built all the infrastructure and systems in South Africa till date.
Since they did not build a university, stadium or TV station.

Can you now see how shallow your thinking is ?

well put and said

now you are flawed in ur argument because Enahoro and Awolowo fought for the independence of nigeria as well

or am i lying

maybe you can educate urself here if u do not know what to say

http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/nvnews/45527/1/nigeria-at-50-independence-speech-of-obafemi-awolo.html

that is how awolowo and enahoro fought for independance

so what is ur point, or did Zik fight for it alone? CERTAINLY NOT

chino11:
A

That means your really dumb and needed brain transplant. I don't need to answer dumb questions. Does dullards, un-lettered, lazy people get recognition or immortalization ? Does good name come by some jazz means?? So if Zik is so recognized that means there is something you have not read about him or something your grandpa didn't tell you. So go back to library and archives and find out why Rt.Hon Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe is called the Great Zik and Zik of Africa, mind you he was not given these names on the NL, it was not yesterday that it was given to him. He was called Great Zik decades ago. So go and find out what actually this man Zik did that earned him so much recognition and immortalization. I know you can't be wiser than everybody.

insult upon insult yet no answer

ok if u have no answer, then stop posting and let others post if they have the answer. you can not just wake up one day and call someone Zik of whatever without laying out his achievements like i have done for the other 2 namly bello and awo.

@ Sensible non-angry or frustrated poster

please list ZIk achievement for us as Nigerians that we are still enjoying today and it is significant?

KenGali:
Just to humour those that are looking for Solutions.
I come from a Village in Anambra that is on top of a hill or rather an expansive highland. And do we have erosion?

It is a fact that these kind of Erosion Menace was almost non existent in the 80s and early 90s. So why are they here now?
Secondly, if you look at most pictures of erosion sites in Anambra, they are areas bereft of trees, un-natural grassland;A strange thing for our vegetation type.

The truth is that over the past two decades we have seen development to mean the cutting down of tree and virgin forests for buildings. Many of our huge Iroko's have been either cut down for roads or some Pentecostal church mission claim that they host witches and Wizards? Dumb.

The solution I believe is to build with an Elvish Philosophy, or what i call the Elvenland. Living Among Trees.
1. We need to Recognize and Preserve Virgin Forest (Referred to as Ajo Offia, most communities still have theirs) by maping them and granting them special status.
2. We need to encourage the cultivation of trees: BY:-

a. Review our building Codes; avoid the kind of Crowding of buildings in Lagos; Adopt more spacious building requirements and Require a number of Large, medium and shrub like trees as part of legalized building requirement.

b. Introduce a certification system for the felling of trees outside reserved timber plantations; to ensure that for every tree failed due to obstruction five more are planted by the feller.

d. We need to find and recognize tree that are more than 30 years old, and retain them as Government properties under the custody of the land occupant. Trees up to 75 or 100 years old should fetch the land occupant or custodian such financial benefits as children scholarship, tax rebates, free health insurance etc.

c. Legalize the use of tree for property fencing, and extend legal status to such, recognizing the fencing of Properties by planting trees around the boundaries as property development.

d. We can make conscious efforts to line our roadways with local beautifying trees and reforest our waste lands esp. those found in Agulu and Nnanka.

In all this we do not really need federal funding except in the cases of reforestation were we need to import top soil or humus into the area. The rest have to do with peoples attitudes and government policy, guidance and commitment to the policies. No amount of concrete drainage will prevent a land slide in an area where the structural soils clay, and water is freely available to be soaked up by the soil. Only trees can hold the soil together, retain most of the water in the forest floor, and encourage runoff where there is no forest floor.

good point but do u think that such policies would be partised by the navties

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=715934.msg8742564#msg8742564 date=1311023925]our 'freedom fighters'! Bloody buncha lazy ediots doing what they are known for.
The-oil-na-me-get-am syndrome.[/quote]lol

bashr

do u even know the population of northerners in the SW and SE before u are talking like this

bashr4:
keep dreaming , what will happen to chime, soludo ,iweala? the only reason the SE  will not win is if the SW support the north which i dont see happening.
e be like say na you smoke the thing

brother thank God you said that because I have been waiting for such comment from you.

lets see if the SW would vote after the SE leaders screw them over and after the north took the position, they kept quite like they just wanted the SW to be down by all means. that said

secondly, the NC is a no go area. trust me

SS would screw the WHOLE south over and ra.pe them like they have always did only different with Jonathan there son

Sicherheit:
No matter how many children a woman has, she is called by the first child's name. By virtue of being the first child, his name will always be recognized but it doesn't mean he is the best child. Same thing with Zik, by virtue of being the first president Nigeria ever had, his name will always be recognized. Was he the best? We don't know and most likely he wasn't because his supporters seem to have a problem answering the question.  

Ok i understand ur point but that is the problem with nigeria

why should we call him a name that was rallied on by some people on us

Nnamdi was a ceremonal president after locking awolowo up in calabar.

so why should we allow sure doctrine to continue in nigeria

chino11:
That means IBB who who named Unizik in Awka after Zik is ignorant, Abacha who named Abuja airport is ignorant, Obj who put Zik on the Nigeria's 2nd highest denomination after 1000 naira note is ignorant. All the people that named major roads and avenue after Zik were all ignorant. I think you can listen to yourself slowpoke?? The same manner you will ask what did Nelson Mandela achieved for SA. You need to go back to your ancestors and ask them why Zik has remained the most honored, the most immortalized Nigerian? Don't allow blind argument to seal your sense of reasoning. Face the fact once in your life and go and research for your own good and the good of your generation to come.


Read what Prime Minister Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa said of Great Zik. Maybe you have become more wiser than Balewa.



History reveals Zik as the only individual whose name appeared in a democratic constitution. The Nigeria's 1963 Republican Constitution which was an amendment of the 1960 Independent Constitution has the following words: “Nnamdi Azikiwe shall be deemed to have been elected President and Commander in-Chief of the Armed Forces,” as submitted by then Prime Minister Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa who posited that, “[b]Nigeria can never adequately reward Dr. Azikiwe” for his nationalism.

http://www.answers.com/topic/nnamdi-azikiwe

Murtala is in 20 naira which is the most spent money in nigeria till date even to the extent they had to change the whole design

the most busy airport IN AFRICA IS NAMED AFTER MURTALA MUHAMMED IN LAGOS

even to the car he was killed in today is used in Museum . go to onikan musume and educate urself

a statue close to murtala hospital in kano etc

again educate urself, there major roads in igbo land named after this man as well

he is the most respected figure in nigeria today

don' t change the topic

WHAT DID ZIK achieve for nigeria that is still felt today?

EzeUche:
Igbo magical numbers have shown we can defeat the Northerners in politics.

of 5 million when north-west is 18 million

yes magic number would win

just like how jonathan won without the combine effort of NC, SS, SW and parts of NE to help him win

keep decieving urself

jmaine:
To win elections in Nigeria all regions are important in the scheme of things . . .  and the Northern inflated numbers were proven to be of underage categories . . A situation most likely caused by a great number of electorates going about Thumbless sorry armless ( short sleeve and long sleeve) due to the practice of  ** You Know now**   

my friend the north and indeed any region would need at least 25% of the remaining geo-political zone which i am well aware of.

north the question is how would they get it. well easy

the south-south especially the ijaws have ALWAYS voted for us and all we just need to do is to protect them from yoruba and igbo domination

the north would get it from the west because lagos homes 15% of northerns and extra 20% in state like ekiti, osun and oyo

in the east, we just need to give them VP and that is it

NC is a mixture of yoruba and hausa/fulani kanuri so at least 50%

who wins the north. but I would not vote for someone just because he is a northerner or muslim because that is bigotry

i rather look for development then another person

jmaine:
Why e no go be well said . . .when that theory was exposed as null and void . . .

lol

how is it null and void

chino11:
Dumb question almajiri. Answer this one: Why has the successive governments in Nigeria continued to honored the Great Zik more than all his contemporaries?Or do you think its by magic or some kind of confusion?? That is to show you that Zik's achievements is beyond the understanding of feeble minds like you and all the followers of the fake 'education' giver- Awalaowo, and Awalawo himself. Even the grand-mother of the present president named him Azikiwe. Ask yourself why Zik is the most immortalized human-being in the history of Nigeria, its only then that you will start digging and researching to see exactly what the Great Zik did and stand for in Nigeria. Anuofia

ok I don hear and as i stated earlier we are immortalizing Zik (newspaper name) because we don't want to hear " we are been marginalise because of the war" we don't want you to bring to us ojukwu

secondly the most important figure in Nigeria today is not Zik he is Murtala Mohammed get it stright

the North love him, the west love him

unlike the ZIK which is love by bunch of ignorant people who are sheepish in their thinking
I have done research I need to do and i am asking a question

What did Zik achieve for Nigeria alone which we are still using and as affected people's life positivly?

jensinmi:
Bros. I'm sorry to tell you this but the North, at least the core north, remains the  mostly likely to unite behind a consensus candidate.

Do not be deceived.

The NE and NW have enough votes to overrun the SW and SE combined.

Now,  why don't you pick up a calculator and do the basic math.

Are you saying a Yoruba candidate will not emerge in the next two elections??
Are you saying a South East Candidate will not emerge in the next two elections??
Are you saying a South-South Candidate will not emerge in the next couple of elections??

Do you believe that most South-Easterners would vote for a Yoruba candidate if one of their own is running??
Now,  do you honestly believe that most Yorubas will vote for a South Eastern candidate if a capable Yoruba man like Fashola is running??


Wake up and smell the coffee. Don't be deceived by the nonsense results declared in favor of GEJ.

The core north will rally behind a single candidate in the coming elections. If the results are free and fair, I believe our only hope is to convince General Buhari to run again, or else, it will be Oga Atiku. In that case, we are all screwed. Buhari is the only one that can receive full northern support or split votes with any other northern candidate, thereby allowing another region to take the cake.

In a free and fair election, all any northern candidate needs is 70 to 80% of NE and NW votes. Let us not forget the few NC votes that will add to it. We shall then laugh and see if SE and SS will vote for a Fashola. Or whether SS and SW will vote for an Okorocha, or Chime.

The North are preparing, and now that GEJ has chopped their kpomo, once they get the presidency, we call all say goodbye to it for another 12 years.

very well said

EzeUche:
I would vote for a Yoruba before I vote for a Northerner. 

lol coming from you,. ROTFLAO

bashr4:
you need at least 25 % from other regions which your not going to get in the SE or SS EVEN NC  is begining to loose its shackles from the NE ,NW. however the problem will be when both a SE and SW  person are contesting but i dont expect the SW to produce a candidate knowing well how badly the SE  wants to produce the president unless they are indirectly supporting the north. the SE can easily beat NW and NE cause they will get the total vote of SE SS  ,majority of SW and up to required percentage of NC,NE and NW.

comical, bros watin u dey smoke again

if the so called SW produces fashola, do u not thing it would be sefless of the east to rally behind him rather than betray them again and vote for a SE person just because the SE want an igbo president or "we desperately need it"

mend don start again