₦airaland Forum

By Emma Amaize
ASABA- EX-MILITANTS laid siege to the East-West Road, weekend, at Orhoro community in the outskirt of Bomadi local government area, Delta State and almost lynched one of their former leaders for supposedly embezzling their allowances.

Delta State Commissioner of Police, Mamman Tsafe confirmed to Vanguard when contacted that the police was already working to contain the situation.

Men of the Joint Task Force, JTF, on the Niger-Delta from Bomadi were deployed to the scene before normalcy finally returned, but the ex-militants insisted on correct payment of N65, 000, they are  entitled  to in a month.

Meantime, the Federal Government has ordered the Joint Task Force on the Niger-Delta, Police Commands and other security agents in the Niger-Delta to synergize and beef up security in Federal Capital Territory, FCT, Abuja and affected states following the latest threat by the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger-Delta to resume hostilities.

The Inspector General of Police, Hafiz Ringim was said to have dispatched a circular to the this effect to Commissioners of Police across the country, while the National Security Adviser to the President, Major –General Andrew Owoye Azazi, rtd, was leant to have conveyed the Federal Government’s directive to the security chiefs.

On the barricade by ex-militants , which disrupted  traffic for hours on the East-West Road, last Friday, it was learnt that the protest was not against the Federal Government,  but against some ex-militant leaders, who deduct money from the N65,000 allowance paid to each of the ex-militants without their consent.

A source told Vanguard that the Office of the Special Adviser to the President and on Niger-Delta and chairman of the Presidential Amnesty Committee, Hon. Kingsley Kuku, had done everything practically possible to ensure that the N65, 000 monthly stipend for to the ex-militants undergoing training get to them, but a number of the ex-militant leaders take away money from the allowances of their boys for unstated reasons.

Director of Public Affairs of the Amnesty Office, Mr. Henry Ugbolue confirmed in a phone chat with Vanguard, Monday, that about one year, the office had been battling the phenomenon, saying, “We are against anybody tampering with the allowances paid to the ex-militants”.

One of the ex-militants who spoke to Vanguard said, “Our protest is not against the Amnesty Office, it is against our former leaders who are tampering with the allowance paid to us by the government. They should stop it”.

The Amanayabo of Meinbutus (Ijaw communities, Warri urban) and national president of the Niger-Delta for Credible and Visionary Leadership, King-Jerry Prebor , who witnessed the incident told Vanguard, Monday, that an ex-militant general, identified as Blessyn was almost lynched by the  irate ex-agitators over the matter.

He said he was travelling on the East-West Road when he ran into the siege by the ex-militants and had to disembark from the vehicle to introduce himself and plead with the protesting ex-militants to remove the trailer and other things used as blockades on the road.

Prebor said men of the Joint Task Force, JTF, on the Niger-Delta from Bomadi got to the scene after he had calmed the boys and  intended to use force to disperse them, but he pleaded with them to be civil in their approach, as the boys were angry.

The Amanayabo called on the appropriate government authorities to address the grievance, saying, their allowances should not be tampered with, it should be given to them the way government released it to them.

A security source told Vanguard that security agents might be forced to track down the ex-militant leaders involved in the tampering of allowances of their boys since the complaints had become prevalent and could lead to another round of crisis if not checked.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/ex-militants-lay-siege-to-east-west-road/

[size=15pt]Lack of electricity is our number one problem – Mr. Emenalo[/size]

By Ebele Orakpo

Inadequate and epileptic power supply has once again been fingered for dampening the entrepreneurial spirit of the average Nigerian. Many who would have loved to go into manufacturing and create jobs for our teeming youths cannot do so because of high cost of production due to inadequate infrastructure.

Many people are therefore into importation of goods from other countries, leaving only the few lion-hearted like Mr. Travis Emenalo, the Managing Director/Chief Executive Officer of St. Michael Florentyna Products Nigeria Limited and Safe Ridges Industries Limited.

In this chat with Vanguard in Lagos, Mr. Emenalo speaks on the challenges of doing business in Nigeria. Excerpts:


•Mr. Travis Emenalo , the challenges of doing business here are enormous
After his primary school education in Port Harcourt, Mr. Travis Emenalo went on to secondary school also in Port Harcourt. Unfortunately, his education was disrupted as a result of the Nigerian civil war.

He eventually completed his secondary school education at Ansarudeen College, Kano before venturing into the business world.

“I started with cosmetics – Aramis Devin perfume from Milan, Italy before changing to St Michael Florentyna products. Later, I diversified into aluminum sheets manufacturing,” he said.

“When I started dealing in St Michael Florentyna products, I first started with the compact powder which the local people call pancake. Then we went on to loose powder (150g pack and then the 50g pack).

Today, we have a range of products. In our range we have St Michael Florentyna Whitening soap, St Michael Florentyna body powder, St Michael Florentyna hand cream and St Michael Florentyna body spray. We also have St Michael Florentyna eyelashes,” he stated.

Mr. Emenalo is not just into importation of cosmetics, he is also into production.


*Some of the products
“I am into another business, not cosmetics this time though I started with cosmetics before going into other areas. I am into aluminum coils. I have a factory in Owerri, the Imo State capital, where we produce long span aluminum roofing sheets.

The name of the company is Safe Ridges Aluminum, a subsidiary of Safe Ridges Industries Limited while in Lagos I deal in cosmetics under the name of St Michael Florentyna Products Nigeria Limited,” he stated.

Mr. Emenalo who has about 20 people on his payroll in Owerri and has the franchise for St Michael Florentyna products in Nigeria, said his workers are few in Lagos because “we sell in bulk.

We are not retailers so we don’t have many workers. Whenever our consignments arrive, the distributors come to the warehouse to pick them up so we kind of render skeletal services.”

On whether he plans to start cosmetics production in Nigeria, Mr. Emenalo said: “If not that I ventured into the aluminum business, I would have gone into cosmetics production My next line of production will be cosmetics.

I stay in Lagos and I do business in Lagos, that of Owerri is just a subsidiary so I have plans of establishing a cosmetics factory to start production here.”

Speaking on the challenges faced as an importer and a manufacturer, Emenalo noted that power is number one on the list of challenges. “The challenges of doing business here are enormous. Number one is power as it affects production.

We run the business on diesel-powered generators and a litre is now about N160.00. In the area of importation, we are having some handicaps with regards to foreign exchange. As I’m talking to you now, we don’t even know the price of dollar today because it keeps moving. As at yesterday (July 12), it moved three times and ended at N167.00 to a dollar.

“So it is better to start production here but again, we have the power issue to grapple with.

Another thing is, if you want to start production, so many things are involved. You have to get land, put up the structure and import the machines. All these will need a lot of money,” he said.

He said if the proper infrastructure are put in place by the relevant authorities, the private sector will be able to create jobs and boost the nation’s economy.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/lack-of-electricity-is-our-number-one-problem-mr-emenalo/

kasiem:
Namfav, whats your happiness in life? That u enjoy doing anniversary with being belligerent to your guests who help employing u guys as gatemen? U love portray your god as a coward, who can't fight for himself? Bringing hopeless and futureless children into the world to suffer? Going all the parts of the country as beggars? Soldiers killing u guys as rats? Man, which of them makes u happy. I know u must've gotten your laptop from a southerner u murdered.

don't go there, or else i would give you a break down on this forum

just let the sleeping dog lay

Crude Oil:
LMAO, UNN 2000 hectres? You musk be joking!
Besides, does the land mass of a uni equate quality? Bombs used by the biafrans during the civil war (Ogbunigwe) were all manufactured by UNN students and lecturers.
Just look at the list of renowned ABU graduates you provided, they are all kleptomaniacs. Don't insult UNN because it has lost its glory.
And what did Ahmadu Bello do for the northerners?

I have stated Ahmadu Bello achievement from the beginning. You can check it yourself

Also anyone can make bombs even boko haram who are illiterate and don't even know a word in english makes bombs

Do you know that you can make explosives using urine because of the nitrogen compound present in the urine. It is a secondary school work out. Even I that I have not been to any university can make bombs easily with fertilizers or urine. so don't give me that excuse

WHAT DID NNAMDI ACHIEVE FOR NIGERIA ?

i mean this question is not hard to answer

ak47mann:
The great zik of africa
1st President of Nigeria
In office
October 1, 1963 – January 16, 1966
Preceded by None (position created)
Succeeded by Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi
3rd Governor-General of Nigeria
In office
November 16, 1960 – October 1, 1963
Preceded by James Robertson
Succeeded by None (position abolished)
1st President of the Senate of Nigeria
In office
January 1, 1960 – October 1, 1960
Preceded by None (position created)
Succeeded by Akweke Nwafor Orizu
Personal details
Born November 16, 1904
Zungeru, Nigeria
Died May 11, 1996 (aged 91)
Enugu, Nigeria
Political party National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons;
Nigerian People's Party
Religion Christianity[1

thank you for the education

ok this is why is called zik of africa. SMH

chino11:
My friend shut up. One single individual like Nkem Akunili or Pat Utomi is enough to consume all the long list of ABU. We know what they produce their- almajiri, awarding degrees to highest bidder. Was it not the same degree they gave to shagari and yaradua who cannot even speak good english with ease, who reads with difficulty?? ABU is a mere glorified secondary school with poor level of education in North compare to what is obtained in East -from UNIZIK TO UNN TO UNIPORT TO UNICAL. Next one you will mention Unimaid, all of them na school.

So who is more prominent in people's heart when compare Utomi with yaradua or Akunili to Shagari

answer please and stop showing ignorance

but that aside

what is Zik achievement for Nigeria and africa? because eve Bello and Awo built there universities and the first university in Nigeria is university of Ibadan so all this wikipedia editing of " first indigenous" is rubbish. even Igbenodion father built a university which has 1 of the 3 electronic microscope in world after toronto and harvard back in those days

so what I am still asking what is ZIK achievement for africa. please list them and don't insult

Crude Oil:
You are very ignorant.
UNN is the first indeginous and one of the leading universities in Nigeria.  What UNN has done for the Igbos (and Nigeria)cannot be quantified.
Stop arguing like a fööl. For you to even compare UNN to ABU is foolîsh enough.

Dude educate yourself. UNN is nothing when compared to ABU

The University of Nigeria is a federal university located in Nsukka, Enugu State, Nigeria. Founded in October 1960, the University of Nigeria has three campuses - Nsukka, Enugu and Ituku-Ozalla - all located in Enugu State, Nigeria.871 hectares (2,150 acres) (Nsukka campus)

now ABU

Ahmadu Bello University (ABU) is the largest university in Nigeria and second largest in Africa, second only to Cairo University, Egypt. It is situated in Zaria. It was founded on October 4, 1962 as the University of Northern Nigeria. The University covers a land area of about 7,000 hectares and encompasses two campuses, twelve Faculties, a Postgraduate School and 82 academic departments. It also has five Institutes, six Specialized Centers, a Division of Agricultural Colleges, a School of Basic and Remedial Studies, a Demonstration Secondary School, a Primary School and a Consultancy Outfit which .provides a variety of services to the University and the wider society



so UNN was 2 years earlier than ABU which even university of Ibadan was built before this UNN

now again another comparison

ABU

Mohammed Bawa, former Ekiti State governor
Oladipo Diya, former Ogun State governor
Donald Duke, former Cross River state governor
Abubakar Ibn Umar Garbai El-Kanemi, Shehu of Borno
Kabiru Ibrahim Gaya, former Kano state governor
Zainab Abdulkadir Kure, politician
Sanusi Lamido, Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN)
Ahmed Makarfi, former Kaduna state governor
Adamu Mu'azu, former Bauchi State governor
Rebecca Ndjoze-Ojo, politician
Aminu Safana, doctor/politician
Namadi Sambo, current vice president of Nigeria
Ibrahim Shekarau, former Kano state governor
Ibrahim Shema, Katsina State governor
Ussif Rashid Sumaila, economist
Ibrahim H. Umar, former Vice Chancellor and scientist.
Patrick Ibrahim Yakowa, Kaduna state governors

UNN

Ike Ekweremadu, Deputy Senate President, Nigeria
Ousman Jammeh, Gambian Foreign Minister (2009–2010)
Osita Ogbu, Former Economic Advisor to the President and Minister of National Planning Commission of Nigeria
Patrick Utomi, Former Presidential candidate for the African Democratic Congress (ADC) in the Nigerian April 2007 elections and former Director of the Centre for Applied Economics, Lagos Business School(Pan African University)
Dora Akunyili, Former Federal Minister of Information and Communication, Nigeria (2008–2010) and Director-General, National Agency for Food and Drug Administration and Control (NAFDAC)(2001 - )*Sullivan Chime, Governor of Enugu State, Nigeria (2007 - date)
Chimaroke Nnamani, Senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (Enugu East Senatorial District, Enugu State) and former Governor of Enugu State (1999–2007)
Peter Odili, Governor of Rivers State, Nigeria (1999–2007)
Lam Adesina, Governor of Oyo State, Nigeria (1999–2003)
Akpan Isemin, Governor of Akwa Ibom State, Nigeria (1992–1993)

ok educate urself.

so what is ZIK achievement again that others like Bello and Awo have not surpassed way before he thought of it.

EzeUche:
I would compare Dr. Michael Okpara with Awolowo, because his achievements can be still seen throughout the East.

-Revolutionized agriculture in the East
-Industrialized major cities in the east which include: Enugu, Port Harcourt, Calabar, Aba and Umuahia.
-Championed educational and infrastructural development in the East.

Now you are talking and i like this Okpara of man

but this is about zik not okpara

Crude Oil:
What did zik achieve? What a stùpid question!
Who created UNN?

You mean University of Nigeria Nsukka. comical

what year was university of ibandan built when compared to Nsukka

what is the number of students in ABU, OAU even benin when compare to UNN

so he built a university which even Igbedion father did, thus that makes him Zik of whatever

What lasting thing did this ZIK ( a newspaper name) do to the greatness of nigeria and indeed africa?

your answer is even daft for me to reply to. but i just have to educate those looking and learning

Eko Ile:
How do you fight corruption when you are corrupt, you party is corrupt, every soul around you is corrupt,
And even your own wife is corrupt?

ask them ooooo

13 million dollars and yet flood and erosion victim are there waiting for the FG

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=688753.msg8739558#msg8739558 date=1310994870]Hmm, So so![/quote]I asked because u talk like the true son of the soil.So are u hausa by any chance

ZE:
lol !!!

Housa's and Youuba's where crying  ONE NIGERIA - ONE NIGERIA when the south eastern states wanted to go.

now you all are being chocked to death in your states. shame on you all. it is too late.

the south easthernes have bought even your burial ground.


i no fit laugh oooo.

ONE NIGERIAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

yes good investment. So why carry urselves pridefully that without urselves those yoruba and hausa people would suffer. You are not making sense at all.

ak47mann:
as i said b4 anambra state are densely population you bloody f.o.o.ls with big potentials which will benefit the northern poverty states and SW states so shut it mate!!!


Anambra State had tried to get the federal government to recognise it as one of the oil-producing states but failed. But President Olusegun Obasanjo supports the state’s initiative in the oil and gas sector. Obasanjo in his keynote address read by Patrick Onwundu at the oil and gas forum in Lagos said Anambra State was one of the hydrocarbon bearing basins in Nigeria. “Exploration efforts in Anambra at the preliminary stage revealed oil potential of about one billion barrels of crude oil. Actually, it is considered to be largely a gas province with estimated reserves of more than 30 trillion cubic feet gas,” the president said.

187/30 trillion cubic feet


as i said soon we will chase you igbo haters away from my land cos i know soon more almajiris will start trooping in

Good please the amount of non-indigenes in anambra is certainly not up to 5% of kano and lagos.

bashr4:
thats not neccessary , we are not known to be hostile to our visitors ,an average igbo man in the east is too busy hursling to even know who is hausa igbo or yoruba,we dont even talk about it, let them keep whining as if that will bring their people out of poverty.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-371485.0.html.

Very good hursling so why say without Igbos in the north and west. they would suffer of poverty.

ak47mann:
you are right just that some time they are bloody annoying i have hit them with facts to put the back to shape. nwanne things dikwa seriousoooo
poverty rates in nigeria
North West = 71.2%
North East = 72.2%
North central = 67%
South West = 43%
South South = 36.1%
South East = 26.7%

same as the post above

bashr4:
this is not based on what you support ,its based on reality. no south east state has high poverty rate like other regions, literacy level is higher in south east and income distribution gap is lowest in south east with the highest percentage of middle class families , these are yardsticks for measuring development, the same cannot be said for the middle belt. no matter how you put it whether by state of origin or by residence south east is still ahead of others. in as much as people move to more developed places like from africa to america , people also moved to less developed places to make use of the opportunities the locals are too blind or too lazy to utilize like the case of asian and american companies buying up all the lands in africa, oil companies etc and sending the money back to their countries to add to the one they already have and thats called eating double portion.

The east has the lowest poverty rate, then why are their people migrating in search for greener pastures I don't understand

ak47mann:
they forgot that SEners both old and young doing business in Lagos also have properties, estate all over the east, especially after abandon properties the now change their mind and start building houses complexes in eastern part which my papa did too most of his properties is in asaba ,onitsha, Lagos property na just family guest house if am in Lagos i stay there rather going to hotel and all that,now i can see truth from what my dad said about investing outside SE is very dangerous and dicey especially northern part of Nigeria, if igbo s doesn't develop their place Nigerian government is not ready to do it for us, just like NORTH/SW is like they depend on hand out from federal govt even to build houses and roads

We are all happy for SEerner really. God bless the SE and igbos. but you people really need to stop yarning sh.it about how well you developed other areas when ur area is there wallowing away. I believe this regions did not beg any one to come and help them out

RoadStar:
So GEJ an Ijaw man was given an Ibo name which has nothing to do with Zik 

Another flawed argument because from the way you are talking, You have no meet people from all works of life.

In yorubaland today, there are couple of people named Ahmadu Bello. In Itsekiri, Igala land today there are couple of Name called Awolowo. Or if an Itsekiri man is named Okoro because a lot do, does that mean he is given respect to Okoro the igbo man Name is not honor my friend. A lot of ijaw share igbo names like Utomi, Emeka etc. Even in Congo today Okoro is used as a surname and it means the same everywhere. It is not purely an Igbo name and same can be said for Azikiwe.

RoadStar:
Awo came into this because some people compared Ziks resting place to that of Awo.

No one will bring Ojukwu as a National hero because he simply has no relevance in any were outside iboland.
Same applies to Awo, even though Awo might have achieved a lot in western Nigeria.
He simply is not a national figure.
OBJ is more of a National figure than Awo.

One guy said on the thread that Zik is the most immortalized because he is almost irrelevant.  And Nigeria has some sort of inexplainable compulsion to immortalise him
U are now saying it was done to appease Ibos 

The above comments sound desperate to say the least.
Keep on deceiving yourselves.

Ok. ZIK is immortalized. WHAT DID HE ACHIEVE FOR NIGERIA AND AFRICA AS A MAN?

this was the question I asked that for 6 pages now, you people have not answered.

na wa oo

why would a reported put "fulani woman" or is she not nigerian again

really NA WA OOO

the FG is not ready to release funds for lagos

SW is the FG last priority

bashr4:
alj harem SE ,SS are the most densly populated regions in africa, you keep arguing like a lost cat.

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSH8YP_gIxQL6zFxBp-ON6Gnx9YisC6zLFW5mfbbDuIUl39AsVB4A[/img]

The map above is the population density map and shows them in various states. On the first account the SS is not more densely populated if you things to prospective. Yes the SE population is highly dense but how does that explain what I posted.

bashr4:
even delta state you mentioned the capital is located in asaba igbo land so again you shoot yourself at the foot. when you mention sokoto the only thing that comes to ones mind is poverty and almajiroism.

Yes delta state capital is Asaba but how many people live and work in Asaba when compared to Warri in the same state,Port harcourt, sokoto, lagos, ibadan and even Kano. Yes it is poverty and almajioism when SE people rush and beg to go to sokoto doing gateman, selling medicial drugs and selling spare parts among other businesses (this are just the major jobs done there by SE people)

bashr4:
you must be delusional to compare economic activities in anambra and abia with sokoto. i will not debate ph issues with you cause i believe your no longer a child but a full grown adult. the bigest industrial estate in nigeria is amadi industrial estate in[b] ph and obio/akpor LGA in rivers is the richer than most states in nigeria ,keep deceiving yourself.
[/b]

How many people go to anambra and abia when compared to sokoto or kano. What is the percentage of foreigners and non-indigenous investors in anambra and abia when compared to sokoto and kano.

Yes amadi indeed when in the Ikeja lagos is well know for this worldwide and not just Nigeria. You can do ur research urself and stop peddling lies.

this is one for you

http://www.eriks.co.uk/ERIKS-UK-Brings-Engineering-KnowHow-To-Nigeria/1188


how can a local government is richer than most state. The whole economy of Abia and Imo state would will fit in Lagos Island local government

do you research and accurately go there and ask people if you want to get information

HBD senu

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=688753.msg8737109#msg8737109 date=1310961870]Oh no, I forgot that's an islamic country; I don't want you dead.

I think Darfur market is better for your 'ss. Yeah, I should ship your maguzawa a*sse to the supporters of APC.[/quote]are u a northerner ? negro ntn

na wa ooo

9jaganja:
Yeah he was voted to develop his state and whatever develops  SW will develop his state,

didn't you read the part where he talks about farmers in his state selling their produce in the Lagos food market which is worth close to 1trillion naira a year?

Read the entire thing; don't be Lazy!!

For all I know, Ekiti is not alimoni Iyorn for no reason lol!! Ileke Idi is probably swallowing Iyorn right now lol, 


Ekiti state's survival has basically been hugely dependent on their farmers who not only harvest year round, they make the prices very very affordable to the masses!!!

Their political class is a shame though but the average ekiti family has a farm hence providing food and some money for them and also indirectly protecting their dignity from modern shame we call modern civilization!

i love his idea. he shows he is selfless. I commend  the man

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=715303.msg8737099#msg8737099 date=1310961614]Are you serious?

Where are the NL warriors? A slap to the face if the perpetrators are Fulani herdsmen.[/quote]bebe idi u like trouble sha. lets pray he is ok as jason suggested

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=715383.msg8737090#msg8737090 date=1310961388]ACN is a national party, sweety. But the ACN of the SW want regional development. That was the point of voting out PDP. The ACN of the SS/SE have the right to do the same.

SW simply wants federalism is all.[/quote]Ok I get your point. thanks

the poster is right

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=715383.msg8737062#msg8737062 date=1310960877]Oh are we talking about him now or about ACN?

[b]If [/b]you read the article, you'll realize that 95% of the conversation was centered on regional development. Sth SW ACN was "elected" to be doing.[/quote]Yes I read the article properly. Ok I forgot ACN is for regional development and not National

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=714893.msg8737069#msg8737069 date=1310960973]alj uchez, alj_uche, uche alj_alj, etc[/quote] thanks for the suggestions

ak47mann:
YOU !! YOU MAKE SENSE

So with massive migration from the SE and yet you all boast of massive development in the SE. I am confused here maybe you need to educate me.

EzeUche:
Haters going to hate.

Zik is still known worldwide.

Yes he is known "worldwide" now please answer

What is his achievement? in plain simple terms and not speech or notes

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=715383.msg8737048#msg8737048 date=1310960503]What is he (ACN) doing?[/quote]Sorry I mean, is he not meant to be focused on the development of his state.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=714893.msg8737038#msg8737038 date=1310959972]Awe, gbenu e soun jor.
You're too much o. elenu gbegedu.


Seriously tho, alj harem that ID is herrrrrrmmmm. How about alj Uche? Thatz better [/quote]Uche has been banned so i would just stick to alj harem for now

ak47mann:
MR MAN SHUT UP VERY SOON ALL THIS YOUR THIRD CLASS GRADE CITES OF YOURS WHICH EVEN HAVE NO BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE NONE OF THEM YOUR NO GET SHAME VERY SOON NORTH WILL BE A DRY LAND FORGET INVESTORS THEY WILL NEVER INVEST IN THE NORTH AGAIN MUMU YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING SE PEOPLE, OUR CITIES IS COMING UP FASTER THAN YOUR POVERTY STATES IN THE NORTH EVEN AFTER WAR WE STILL PASS YOU DEY COURSE YOU PEOPLE

You see that is why I have always said majority of you can not have an Intelligent discussion on this forum without resulting to insults or showing angry emotions. Discuss your point and let see see if it makes sense.