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Justcash:
Alj harem, you are very very stoopid. You had to insult a bed ridden Igbo leader and mock Igbos with a very insolent title. Na thunder go fire you and your Arewa A'S'S. Eediot.

bia

is it me or the sun newspaper that made the title

Ngodigha:
Don't be silly Bingo, surely you see only articles that centre on Ndigbo. Aszhole.

bingo indeed

well u'll get use to me sorry if the insult let the thread die then

Ngodigha:
I don't seem to understand the stupidity behind all this nonsensical threads about Ndigbo lately.
I think I have to leave this forum before my 100 posts.
Nonsensical.

na your wahala be that, i saw an article an i posted it, if u no like am kiss a very wet salty transformer

forget this is so funny

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The All Progressives Grand Alliance, (APGA) has joined the league of prominent bodies and individuals who have frowned at the plan of the Peoples Democratic Party, (PDP) to give the position of the Speaker of the House of Representatives to the South-west.

Media reports had alleged that President Jonathan, members of the PDP National Working Committee and certain leaders of the party at its recent retreat at Obudu Ranch, Cross Rivers State had allegedly agreed to retain the position of Senate Presidency and Speaker of the House of Representatives in the North-central and South-west, respectively, while the slot of Secretary to the Government of the Federation was zoned to the South east.

Addressing journalists yesterday at the APGA national secretariat, National Chairman of the party, Victor Umeh expressed disappointment over the purported power sharing by the PDP national leadership. Umeh told journalists that only the position of Speaker of the House of Representatives would be commensurate with the support given to President Jonathan by the South-east electorate. The APGA national chairman who disclosed that he was supposed to travel to London yesterday night to meet with the ailing Ikemba Nnewi, Chief Odumegwu, threatened to report President Jonathan to the acclaimed Igbo leader.

“The issue of zoning shouldn’t be for the PDP only , it should be an equitable arrangement for all zones. The Federal Government and the PDP plan to deny South-east the slot of Speaker of House of Representatives is embarrassing. There is no basis for this. From 2007 to date, we have been experiencing cheating in the present circumstances. For all the support the zone gave to PDP, we shouldn’t be treated in this manner. Our people want the position of Speaker, whoever or the people involved in this decision making, it is fair that South-east be given the position.’’

In his veiled reference to the South-west, Umeh expressed consternation that the zone that gave support to the PDP presidential candidate, three days to the presidential election was about to be compensated with the slot of number four position in the country, as against the South-east that gave open embrace.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/may/12/national-12-05-2011-014.htm

OAM4J:
E go better, 2015 is around the corner.

Yeah NE president and SE vp maybe

jason123:
As I said earlier in case you did not see it, STOP INCLUDING THE SS and the SE in the same sentence with APGA!!! I really do not care about party, if APGA picks the right person in Delta without tribalism involved, then, why not But you are talking as if the SS and the SE are ONE REGION, NO, THEY ARE NOT! There is the SS, SW and the SE in the South, simple!!!

If APGA will produce credible people in various states, I could careless. I would vote for them!!! If not, then, NO!!! Simple!

let chyz catch u

I feel bad that my Igbo nation has remained a laughting stock in recent time. I am
not happy, simple. I knew that we were being fooled all along yet I noticed only
few voices (like in Professor Nwabueze) at the period. Iwas so disappointed in
people like Dr. Ezeife who thought that with Goodluck Jonathan being president
in 2011, an Igbo man would be president in 2015. What kind of thought is that?
Dr. Ezeife and co threatened Igbo man must be brought back as the PDP
national chairman; later they pleaded but of course, those fell on already
determined presidential deaf ears.

Now Igbo nation has been totally side-lined and the talk about town now is that
they were being considered for the Secretary to the Government of the Federation
(SGF). What does that mean and what position is that in our national leadership
hierarchy? For those Igbos who are still groping, I want to let them know that
position of SGF is just like that of a Minister who the President is at liberty to
remove any time just like how Minister Iheanacho was recently removed without
any cogent reason.

Look at the mundane reason now being given for not accepting Igbo person as
the Speaker of the Federal House of Representatives: That we do not have a
Muslim in our elected ones.  Let it be on record that south-east ranked highest
(97%) of their vote cast to make Jonathan’s new Presidency. Why would the
senate presidency not be given to north-eastern Muslim in order to appropriately
appease the highest contributor to the PDP victories with the Speakership of the
House of Representatives? Another funny ‘promise’ is that Igbo man would be
vice-president in 2015 in order to pave way for him to be president in 2019 or
2013. That was how vaguely it was put by the PDP authorities. This is an insult
on the collective intelligence of the Igbo nation.

From time, some reasonable Igbo persons sounded it that the present leadership
of Ohaneze Ndigbo and Aka Ikenga (both Igbo organizations) were pursuing their
personalized zonal interest. Both of them are from the south-south as Jonathan
and were bent on seeing him through as the president in 2011 and not
necessarily serving the interest of the core Igbo nation. The south-east governors
are insisting on the Speakership of the House of Representatives and the
leadership are pretending to be supporting them and the Presidency is more
disposed to the south-west candidate. Who has fooled who now?

Mr. Nnamdi Okafor Omoba Road ABA, Abia State.

http://africanexaminer.com/okafor0511

mbatuku2:
Fool. Mohammed Mairiga cannot be Igbo.

why not or don't u know some igbos have adopted muslim names

kasiem:
Gej should be mindful of the problem that he's trying to create for his people, igbos can develop without his foolish support, but i[b] pray that he stay alive reap the fruit that he's sowing.[/b]

do u want to kill azikwe our president

Ngodigha:
All this idiotic anti-GEJ posts has to stop now.
Stop it now.

thank you

maybe he has forgotten that he is our president and deserves some respect

also the speaker has not been choosen yet

Calculia:
A day is a long time in politics and Four years is a life-tim, to make such assumption . Abosolutely anything is possible. Jonathan might not even serve the full four years uninterrupted with the way violence is kicking off in the North like wild fire since he took office. The south west don't really care for his presidency with the level of internal reform on the way. The only group that seem to bank their heart on GEJ are the south east and south south.

Don't know about the south east but the south south will be immensely rewarded,

good points as well

well lets wait then

Ngodigha:
What matters most is the development of the region. To Ndigbo here, would you choose meaningless political offices to the development of your region?.

right, good point as well

all we want in the east is development, that's all

the north, ss and sw can eat all the power they want for all we care,

Calculia:
The South-South & South East need each other. Jonathan need the South East vote to be President and that is why he was successful. Even if the name Azikiwe and Ebele were handy. This is politics and the game is about positioning. The South East/ South South should start positioning themselves for 2015. Correct me if am wrong or is the Presidency going North to the Hausas again.

yes North-east with SW vp

Ngodigha:
What do you not mean?.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=665247.msg8301732#msg8301732 date=1305147573]u are not serious, majority statue is not by numbers but by your political power !!!!!!

how many ijaws do we have on earth pls be honest with urself how many

we have more kanuri, ibibio and nupe and tiv than ijaws on earth as we speak but they are now 4th largest soon 3rd

but they can not over take the hausa/fulani, don't the yorubas can be over taken easilly but just watch

so please it is certainly not the number but the political might and military wise

in 1960 the 4th largest ethnic group was the tiv closlly followed by kanuri now 2006 ijaw rose from position 6th to 4th displacing tiv and kanuri  smh

well do the calculation urself[/quote]

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=665247.msg8301714#msg8301714 date=1305147225]How can a majority be a minority, when we still have the people?

Revenge is very sweet. Just look at what happened to Ken Saro-Wiwa and Adaka Boro.[/quote]u are not serious, majority statue is not by numbers but by ur political power !!!!!!

how many ijaws do we have on earth pls be honest with urself how many

we have more kanuri, ibibio and nupe and tiv than ijaws on earth as we speak but they are now 4th largest soon 3rd

but they can not over take the hausa/fulani, don't the yorubas can be over taken easilly but just watch

so please it is certainly not the number but the political might and military wise

in 1960 the 4th largest ethnic group was the tiv closlly followed by kanuri now 2006 ijaw rose from position 6th to 4th displacing tiv and kanuri  smh

well do the calculation urself

what an analysis sad really sad

a majority group now a minority

When Igbo leaders threw all their political eggs into President Goodluck Jonathan's basket, and convinced their kinsmen and women, home and abroad, to do same, I was apprehensive. My worry informed my July 27, 2010 article, "Igbo and Jonathan's presidential ambition," published here, almost a year ago, long before he became the de facto presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).



The support was total, so much so that the five Southeast governors met in Enugu and unilaterally, without the people's consent, disqualified themselves from the presidential race. That was long before their colleagues from the South-south, the President's zone, bought into the project.

As if to amplify their resolve in order not to leave anyone in doubt of the political pathway they had chosen to tread, they shut their door in the face of every other presidential candidate shopping for a running mate. Such steadfastness was unprecedented in the country. But it was a huge gamble, full of risks, particularly coming at a time nobody was sure that he would even win the nomination of his party. The drums of opposition were still resonating against his ambition in the North, and loudly too.

In the article, I asked a simple question. What was in the unprecedented support for Jonathan for the Igbo nation and her people who have, perhaps, suffered more marginalisation than any other group in the country? Will the support be reciprocated?

And my conclusion was simple; "I am not against Jonathan being President beyond May 29, 2011. But if he must be with the help of the Igbo, then it must be discussed."



Not even the humiliating ouster of Dr Okwesilieze Nwodo, former chairman of the PDP, who sharpened the "mainstream politics" argument as reason why the Igbo must embrace the party, dampened the enthusiasm for Jonathan in the Southeast. Instead, they followed through with their promise during the general elections. Southeast voted 97 percent for the President. He got 5,090,140 or 22.93 percent of PDP presidential votes, the second highest after the South-south zone. This is despite the fact that the Southeast is the only zone with five states and the least populated, courtesy of fraudulent figures churned out by dark forces bent on making the Igbo a minority group in the name of census.

Beside Jonathan, the PDP scored about 90 percent in the National Assembly elections and won three governorship seats. There was no governorship poll in Anambra and PDP lost in Imo.

It was therefore natural to expect that in this dispensation, Jonathan and the PDP would compensate the Igbo with a political position that would be worth their sacrifice. But there are indications that that may not happen without a fight.

The first sign that the Southeast will be forced to still hold the wrong end of the political stick which President Olusegun Obasanjo handed them when he was leaving office in 2007 was when the President refused to ensure that the PDP chairmanship returns to the Southeast even after many Igbo leaders met him over the matter after screening and short-listing candidates.



Having delivered their votes to the PDP, expectations were high that the Southeast will either produce the Senate President or the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The North Central presently occupies the position of Senate President - David Mark, while the Southwest produced the Speaker, Dimeji Bankole as decreed by outgoing President Olusegun Obasanjo in 2007.

But the Southwest made a conscious effort to go back to their opposition cocoon. The result is that the PDP got only five out of 66 available House of Representatives seats and one seat out of the 18 senatorial seats in the zone.

As the Southeast National Assembly caucus noted after a recent meeting, "These numbers provide few choices in the Southwest for recruitment of quality leadership that will ensure national stability," because as they further noted, "It is conventional that a presiding officer must enjoy a good measure of parliamentary caucus support."

So, even if the North Central retains the Senate Presidency because of the performance of the PDP in the zone, what will be the justification for retaining the Speakership in the Southwest?



But PDP has a record of compensating failure. One of the conditions for emerging the party's presidential candidate in 1999 was ability to deliver one's zone to the party. Dr. Alex Ekwueme, former Vice President, and founding member of the PDP fulfilled delivered the Southeast to the party. Obasanjo lost the ballot even in his own polling booth but the military wing of the party handed him the ticket.

Some political jobbers have introduced the combustible element of religion into the equation. If a Christian retains the seat of Senate President, then the Speaker must be a Moslem, they argue. But that is a calculated attempt to ensure that the Igbo does not get the Speakership, knowing full well that there is not likely to be a Muslim lawmaker in the National Assembly from the Southeast.

Besides, until Dimeji Bankole became Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Ette, a Christian, was the Speaker and was removed for reasons other than her religion. And as members of the Southeast caucus argued, "In the Second Republic, Dr. Joseph Wayas and Chief Edwin Ume Ezeoke, both Christians from the South were Senate President and Speaker respectively even when Ekwueme and Chief Adisa Akinloye, both Southern Christians held the positions of Vice President and National Chairman respectively." Even now, in the House of Representatives, both Bankole and his deputy, Bayero Nafada, are Muslims.

Equity demands that one of the two National Assembly top jobs should be zoned to the Southeast. Insisting that the Southwest should retain the Speakership is tantamount to the Yoruba eating their cake and having it. It is ironical that the man who is pushing it is the same man who lost his polling unit to the opposition Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN).

But one pertinent question needs be asked. Why is President Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan, the fabled friend, in-law and neighbour to Ndigbo not lifting a finger for them?

Those who cautioned Ndigbo not to put all their eggs in Jonathan's basket last year argued that if the President lost the battle, then the region would be out on a limb. The sad thing is that even with his victory, a victory made possible by the sacrifice of Ndigbo, nothing seems to have changed; Ndigbo may have laboured in vain.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201105100715.html

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=665199.msg8301491#msg8301491 date=1305144781]When did a fisherman become my kinsmen? [/quote]when did u start calling an ijaw named azikiwe a fisherman, u better shut ur mouth because he is our president so respect him

PapaBrowne:
I think Tinubu and the Yoruba folks should leave Edo alone. We belong in the South South and not in the South West. Why are they trynig to claim us??

Anyway, nice move. I love this new quest for regionalism. It would spur healthy developmental competition.

bia biko, does it look like he is claiming u

read and understand before u comment mumu, is edo not an ACN state

who care if it is ss or se, so long as it is an acn state he can develop it as he likes